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Re: Deportation to Minsk #belarus

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Dear Charlotte,

Thanks you for posting these details. As you know I have over the past
year or two posted this same query on H-Holocaust and this is the first
time anyone has come up with some type of references. It is amazing to
see how poorly documented this area is in terms of Holocaust studies (at
least in the West). Maly Trostinets was probably the 5th or 6th largest
extermination area.

Dr Saul Issroff
<saul@swico.demon.co.uk>

CHARLOTTEO <charlotteo@aol.com> wrote:

I saw one such marker with my own eyes, giving the 800,000 victim
number--others with lower numbers. Some 'only' a few hundred.
My non-Jewish co-author/friend here in the US argued with me about these
numbers (also?) stating 'there were no such large numbers killed, or it would
be in the history books'.
Well, I won't "back down", pls don't misunderstand me: I don't think you doubt
my word. I SAW this number and others (in arabic nbrs) engraved on various
memorial monuments and was -for the same reason- totally blown away by it.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Deportation to Minsk #belarus

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Dear Charlotte,

Thanks you for posting these details. As you know I have over the past
year or two posted this same query on H-Holocaust and this is the first
time anyone has come up with some type of references. It is amazing to
see how poorly documented this area is in terms of Holocaust studies (at
least in the West). Maly Trostinets was probably the 5th or 6th largest
extermination area.

Dr Saul Issroff
<saul@swico.demon.co.uk>

CHARLOTTEO <charlotteo@aol.com> wrote:

I saw one such marker with my own eyes, giving the 800,000 victim
number--others with lower numbers. Some 'only' a few hundred.
My non-Jewish co-author/friend here in the US argued with me about these
numbers (also?) stating 'there were no such large numbers killed, or it would
be in the history books'.
Well, I won't "back down", pls don't misunderstand me: I don't think you doubt
my word. I SAW this number and others (in arabic nbrs) engraved on various
memorial monuments and was -for the same reason- totally blown away by it.


JewishGen needs your help #poland

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Dear JRI-PL readers,
With the tremendous expansion of JewishGen in these past few months, our
volunteers are terribly overloaded, and more importantly are not all that
familiar with specific projects.
We would like to initiate a help desk for people who are writing in asking
for help in using the JRI-PL database. You are the folks who know this
program best, having worked to make it as great as it is.
Is there anyone out there who would like to volunteer for a JRI-PL help
desk role?
Please get back to me.
Thanks
Carol Skydell
JewishGen Operations


JRI Poland #Poland JewishGen needs your help #poland

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Dear JRI-PL readers,
With the tremendous expansion of JewishGen in these past few months, our
volunteers are terribly overloaded, and more importantly are not all that
familiar with specific projects.
We would like to initiate a help desk for people who are writing in asking
for help in using the JRI-PL database. You are the folks who know this
program best, having worked to make it as great as it is.
Is there anyone out there who would like to volunteer for a JRI-PL help
desk role?
Please get back to me.
Thanks
Carol Skydell
JewishGen Operations


Interested in Narovlya #belarus

Thea Hodge <tdhodge@...>
 

Subject: Interested in NAROVLYA

I am a new member of the Belarus SIG. I am researching the town of
NAROVLYA, 165.9 miles SSE of Minsk. My mother's forebears were KAPLAN
and SHUSTERMAN. I would very much like to talk to anyone else
interested in that town and in those names, there or in close
neighboring towns.

Thea Drell Hodge
Palo Alto, CA
reply to: TDHODGE@earthlink.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus Interested in Narovlya #belarus

Thea Hodge <tdhodge@...>
 

Subject: Interested in NAROVLYA

I am a new member of the Belarus SIG. I am researching the town of
NAROVLYA, 165.9 miles SSE of Minsk. My mother's forebears were KAPLAN
and SHUSTERMAN. I would very much like to talk to anyone else
interested in that town and in those names, there or in close
neighboring towns.

Thea Drell Hodge
Palo Alto, CA
reply to: TDHODGE@earthlink.net


Re: FOIA response to SS5 query #general

Greenman50@...
 

P.S. Sorry for an important omission. For those who have not yet received
any of their requested SS5's, Darrell Blevins is the FOIA signature on the
letter sent >from the Social Security Administration when they send you your
copies.

Linda Greenman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: FOIA response to SS5 query #general

Greenman50@...
 

P.S. Sorry for an important omission. For those who have not yet received
any of their requested SS5's, Darrell Blevins is the FOIA signature on the
letter sent >from the Social Security Administration when they send you your
copies.

Linda Greenman


FOIA response to SS5 query #general

Greenman50@...
 

Having earlier written an e-mail to Darrell Blevins earlier this month
concerning a five month wait for several SS5's, when I finally received
them I wrote to let him know. I received the following in reply.
I asked his permission to send to the discussion group and his response
to my request is also included.
Linda Greenman

02/04/99

Dear Linda,

I am glad you did finally get the documents you requested. I know it can
be frustrating having to wait so long for things like this. Being an
amateur genealogist myself, I understand what it means to wait for the
record that confirms a relationship or date or maybe breaks through one
of our brick walls.

I have seen a number of posts on rootsweb mail lists that specifically
mention me and the slow service people are encountering in obtaining these
SS-5s. On a number of occasions, I have been tempted to reply to these and
try to explain some of the circumstances behind this slow service. I havn't
done that yet, but when I received you e-mail I thought I would take this
opportunity to make an explanation. And basically it is this: The Social
Security Administration (SSA) is fundamentally different >from most of the
organizations genealogists depend on to furnish documents.

The mission of SSA is to determine a persons eligibility to a benefit and
to pay that benefit. When an individual dies, leaving a dependent spouse
and young children, we want to pay that spouse a survivor's benefit as soon
as possible. Likewise for disabled people and retirees. We accumulate
records to allow us to carry out this mission. It just happens that some
of these records are valuable for genealogical purposes and that puts us in
a sometimes difficult situation. We must carry out our obligations under
the federal freedom of information act to make these records available, but
our first priority will always be to accomplish the primary goal of the
agency and that is where the agency concentrates its resources.

Contrast this with the situation of the National Archives and state vital
records agencies and their primary missions which relate more directly to
providing records to the public. Also, consider that SSA, like most
federal agencies, has undergone significant staff reductions over the past
decade and these genealogy based requests are growing each year (about
20,000 last year).

It bothers me that we are unable to provide the kind of service that,
ideally, we would like to provide to people like yourself. I am trying
to do some things here that will help improve service, but it is unlikely
results will be noticeable for at least another year. Hopefully, this
won't seem like a lot of excuses to you. I meant it as an honest
explanation.

Hope the SS-5s were helpful.

Darrell Blevins

02/18/99

Linda, that would be fine; posting to the listserv.

Darrell


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FOIA response to SS5 query #general

Greenman50@...
 

Having earlier written an e-mail to Darrell Blevins earlier this month
concerning a five month wait for several SS5's, when I finally received
them I wrote to let him know. I received the following in reply.
I asked his permission to send to the discussion group and his response
to my request is also included.
Linda Greenman

02/04/99

Dear Linda,

I am glad you did finally get the documents you requested. I know it can
be frustrating having to wait so long for things like this. Being an
amateur genealogist myself, I understand what it means to wait for the
record that confirms a relationship or date or maybe breaks through one
of our brick walls.

I have seen a number of posts on rootsweb mail lists that specifically
mention me and the slow service people are encountering in obtaining these
SS-5s. On a number of occasions, I have been tempted to reply to these and
try to explain some of the circumstances behind this slow service. I havn't
done that yet, but when I received you e-mail I thought I would take this
opportunity to make an explanation. And basically it is this: The Social
Security Administration (SSA) is fundamentally different >from most of the
organizations genealogists depend on to furnish documents.

The mission of SSA is to determine a persons eligibility to a benefit and
to pay that benefit. When an individual dies, leaving a dependent spouse
and young children, we want to pay that spouse a survivor's benefit as soon
as possible. Likewise for disabled people and retirees. We accumulate
records to allow us to carry out this mission. It just happens that some
of these records are valuable for genealogical purposes and that puts us in
a sometimes difficult situation. We must carry out our obligations under
the federal freedom of information act to make these records available, but
our first priority will always be to accomplish the primary goal of the
agency and that is where the agency concentrates its resources.

Contrast this with the situation of the National Archives and state vital
records agencies and their primary missions which relate more directly to
providing records to the public. Also, consider that SSA, like most
federal agencies, has undergone significant staff reductions over the past
decade and these genealogy based requests are growing each year (about
20,000 last year).

It bothers me that we are unable to provide the kind of service that,
ideally, we would like to provide to people like yourself. I am trying
to do some things here that will help improve service, but it is unlikely
results will be noticeable for at least another year. Hopefully, this
won't seem like a lot of excuses to you. I meant it as an honest
explanation.

Hope the SS-5s were helpful.

Darrell Blevins

02/18/99

Linda, that would be fine; posting to the listserv.

Darrell


Re: Fishleder article #lithuania

Andrew Cassel <awcassel@...>
 

Monty:

Thanks for the corrections. Yes, I would love to have copies of all the
items you mention. My Yiddish is improving, and I have a great teacher
who's also a graduate of the Oxford Yiddish program who can help me
translate if I get stuck. Typing is also no problem, so I can make you a
transcription of your mother's tape, assuming it's reasonably clear. I'll
be grateful if you can send a cassette and some xerox copies of the
articles; my address is below. Thanks again,

Andy Cassel
8310 Tulpehocken Ave.
Elkins Park, Pennsylvania 19027


On Friday, February 19, 1999 6:27 AM, Monty Starr
[SMTP:monty@mstarr.freeserve.co.uk] wrote:

With regard to the transliteration of names I write them as follows :
"some of the intelligentsia of that generation were forced to leave their
homes, such as Tsvi(Hirsch) Bloshtein(son of Reizel the dough kneader),
Moshe Strashunsky(shochet and kashrut arbiter)etc.
Reizel was my great grandmother and the family legend is that she was
fifty when Hirsch was born in 1895. He was the child of a second marriage.
If you are interested in my mother's tape I can make a copy and send it
to you for transcribing-I am a one finger typist. The Oxford journal is in
Yiddish but I have a spare copy if it would be of interest to you. I also
have a copy of an article by Hirsch in the Russian-Yiddish newspaper
written in 1958 on the first time he returned to Keidan after the war.
Monty Starr(Strashunsky) << File: ATT00002.html >>


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania RE: Fishleder article #lithuania

Andrew Cassel <awcassel@...>
 

Monty:

Thanks for the corrections. Yes, I would love to have copies of all the
items you mention. My Yiddish is improving, and I have a great teacher
who's also a graduate of the Oxford Yiddish program who can help me
translate if I get stuck. Typing is also no problem, so I can make you a
transcription of your mother's tape, assuming it's reasonably clear. I'll
be grateful if you can send a cassette and some xerox copies of the
articles; my address is below. Thanks again,

Andy Cassel
8310 Tulpehocken Ave.
Elkins Park, Pennsylvania 19027


On Friday, February 19, 1999 6:27 AM, Monty Starr
[SMTP:monty@mstarr.freeserve.co.uk] wrote:

With regard to the transliteration of names I write them as follows :
"some of the intelligentsia of that generation were forced to leave their
homes, such as Tsvi(Hirsch) Bloshtein(son of Reizel the dough kneader),
Moshe Strashunsky(shochet and kashrut arbiter)etc.
Reizel was my great grandmother and the family legend is that she was
fifty when Hirsch was born in 1895. He was the child of a second marriage.
If you are interested in my mother's tape I can make a copy and send it
to you for transcribing-I am a one finger typist. The Oxford journal is in
Yiddish but I have a spare copy if it would be of interest to you. I also
have a copy of an article by Hirsch in the Russian-Yiddish newspaper
written in 1958 on the first time he returned to Keidan after the war.
Monty Starr(Strashunsky) << File: ATT00002.html >>


Re: looking for Emanuel ADLER #general

Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Joyce,

I don't have the phone number but have you tried the Naer Tamid Society.
It represents the Jewish firefighters in NYC. They may have burial
information as well. I would not expect the engine company itself to
have much information, but you never know.

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN

Joyce Peck writes:

I am posting this message for a friend, Daniel Lowe. He is looking
for information on a cousin, Emanuel ADLER, a member of NYC fire
department's Engine 309, who was killed in the line of duty on 11/16/52.
His calls to the NYC fire department were unsuccessful and the number
he was given for Engine 309 was disconnected. Is there a firefighters'
organization that keeps track of members injured or killed while fighting
fires? A real phone number for Engine 309? Other suggestions.
Please respond privately.
Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN =[;-) Researching: ALEXANDER-&-CHALL
(Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV-&-HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER-&-CHASKELEVITZ-(became_CHASWORTH) (Kishenev, Bessarabia; before
1920) (Oreyev, abt 1940) Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN (Poland / Russia)
All ended up in parts of New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: looking for Emanuel ADLER #general

Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Joyce,

I don't have the phone number but have you tried the Naer Tamid Society.
It represents the Jewish firefighters in NYC. They may have burial
information as well. I would not expect the engine company itself to
have much information, but you never know.

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN

Joyce Peck writes:

I am posting this message for a friend, Daniel Lowe. He is looking
for information on a cousin, Emanuel ADLER, a member of NYC fire
department's Engine 309, who was killed in the line of duty on 11/16/52.
His calls to the NYC fire department were unsuccessful and the number
he was given for Engine 309 was disconnected. Is there a firefighters'
organization that keeps track of members injured or killed while fighting
fires? A real phone number for Engine 309? Other suggestions.
Please respond privately.
Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN =[;-) Researching: ALEXANDER-&-CHALL
(Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV-&-HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER-&-CHASKELEVITZ-(became_CHASWORTH) (Kishenev, Bessarabia; before
1920) (Oreyev, abt 1940) Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN (Poland / Russia)
All ended up in parts of New York City


Re: Rabbi's Encyclopedia #belarus

Myra S. Davis <myrabokpg@...>
 

Does this book also contain information about Cantors and can a cantor
perform a wedding?

My grandfather YONAH DAVIS OR JOHN DAVIS is listed at officiator at my
parent's wedding. This took place on 2/14/26. It also looks like the
word REV is in front of his name. What would that be? Anyone know?

Myra Davis
myrabokpg@juno.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Rabbi's Encyclopedia #belarus

Myra S. Davis <myrabokpg@...>
 

Does this book also contain information about Cantors and can a cantor
perform a wedding?

My grandfather YONAH DAVIS OR JOHN DAVIS is listed at officiator at my
parent's wedding. This took place on 2/14/26. It also looks like the
word REV is in front of his name. What would that be? Anyone know?

Myra Davis
myrabokpg@juno.com


Researchers 12647 and 14312 - BERLOWITZ/West Prussia #general

David Lewin <davidlewin@...>
 

Would Researchers 12647 and 14312 whose numbers I noted when looking at
the databases in connection with Berlowitz and/or West Prussia please
contact me?

I am unable to make contact with you via the Database.

David Lewin
London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researchers 12647 and 14312 - BERLOWITZ/West Prussia #general

David Lewin <davidlewin@...>
 

Would Researchers 12647 and 14312 whose numbers I noted when looking at
the databases in connection with Berlowitz and/or West Prussia please
contact me?

I am unable to make contact with you via the Database.

David Lewin
London


Philadelphia -- seeking BISSINGER family #general

James Bennett <bennett@...>
 

from faraway Israel I'm searching for BISSINGER
relations who lived, died, and are buried in Jewish
cemeteries in Philadelphia. The name is unique to
one Jewish family only, >from Ichenhausen, Bavaria,
so all Bissingers are related.

Philadelphia JewishGen'ers: Would one of you
undertake some local research, mostly cemeteries,
in exchange for me searching Israel Sources for
you?

Shabbat Shalom Jim Bennett, Haifa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia -- seeking BISSINGER family #general

James Bennett <bennett@...>
 

from faraway Israel I'm searching for BISSINGER
relations who lived, died, and are buried in Jewish
cemeteries in Philadelphia. The name is unique to
one Jewish family only, >from Ichenhausen, Bavaria,
so all Bissingers are related.

Philadelphia JewishGen'ers: Would one of you
undertake some local research, mostly cemeteries,
in exchange for me searching Israel Sources for
you?

Shabbat Shalom Jim Bennett, Haifa