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WARON, WARREN, RAISELIS #general

Eugene Warren <ginow@...>
 

Information on any of above names requested.

Eugene Warren ginow@juno.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WARON, WARREN, RAISELIS #general

Eugene Warren <ginow@...>
 

Information on any of above names requested.

Eugene Warren ginow@juno.com


Belarus Website updated - new issue of the newsletter #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

This is just to inform you that

THE Belarus SIG website has been updated with a lot of new information!

If you have interests in the Belarus, be sure to check it out - and if you
are not already a member of the Belarus SIG, be sure to sign up.

The Belarus SIG online newsletter - Issue 2 - February 1999
is now uploaded and ready for your perusal.

You can access it either by clicking on the Newsletter icon on the Belarus
SIG Website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/

or go directly to it at the address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_no_2.htm

If you choose the first option you will be taken to the "Newsletter Front
Page" which in the future will list first the newest issue, and below the
back issues.

At the bottom of the "Newsletter Front Page" there is a NetMind box in
which you can type in your e-mail address and then submit to update service
which is free of charge.

If you do that, you will automatically be notified whenever a new issue is
published or if any changes are made.

We are working to give you the option of downloading the Newsletter as a
file for distribution to those with interest in the Belarus, but without
access to the Internet. When we have found the best way to do that, we will
let you know. For the time being you can chose "File|Print".

In this issue you will find:

First of all we would like to call your attention to two different
suggestions as to how your personal genealogical interest in Belarus might
be translated into benefits for the Jewish Community of Belarus - which
really needs our help.

By a strange coincidence we have received two separate articles on journeys
to Kozanhorodok. The one journey also encompassed a visit to Luninets - and
therefore we have put a link to an article >from The Columbus Dispatch
(January 23, 1997) which is an interview with a WWII survivor from
Luninets: "A survivor's story".

You can also find an account of Jewish life in a shtetl in Europe given by
Cheyna Rogovin Chertow (born 1912), who shares her memories of Belakoritz
and Wolozyn 1912-1931 with us.

We also bring an article on "Settlers in Yekaterinoslav Guberniya",
although you might thing that it is a little out of place on the Belarus
SIG. However, we found that is was very appropriate, as it tells how Jews
were encouraged to leave the crowded and economically poor centers in the
north (e.g Belarus) and establish new settlements in Novorussia. Thus, you
might be inspired to look for an missing ancestor in a place where you
might never have imagined!

Our SIG Coordinator, David M. Fox, relates the newest plans and
undertakings in his letter, and keeps us updated on new records uncovered
in the Minsk Archive.

Many have responded with enthusiasm to the request (in the first issue of
the Newsletter) for help to identify unknown persons depicted in old
photos. We have therefore decided to make it a special feature of the
Belarus SIG Newsletter and the Belarus website. So read more about that -
and if you have such enigmatic photos, send them to us for publication, and
give as much information as you possibly can about the photos.

We would like to have some feed-back on the Newsletter:

First, we would like to have your comments, questions, reports of errors etc.

Second, we would appreciate your evaluation of the Newsletter. An Online
Newsletter is something new and special. It gives ample possibilities for
"publishing" a lot of beautiful and interesting photos etc, which in a
normal printed edition would be much too expensive. However, you might find
that some of the articles are too slow to access, because of the many
photos. You can, of course, in your browser choose the option NOT to
display images! But then there is not much point in publishing them in the
first place. So the problem is to strike the golden mean!

Third, we would appreciate any suggestions for the future issues - contents
or otherwise.

If you will help us with any - or all - please send an e-mail to:
elsebeth@paikin.dk


Best regards

Elsebeth Paikin, Assistant Editor
Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
elsebeth@paikin.dk

Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Belarus Website updated - new issue of the newsletter #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

This is just to inform you that

THE Belarus SIG website has been updated with a lot of new information!

If you have interests in the Belarus, be sure to check it out - and if you
are not already a member of the Belarus SIG, be sure to sign up.

The Belarus SIG online newsletter - Issue 2 - February 1999
is now uploaded and ready for your perusal.

You can access it either by clicking on the Newsletter icon on the Belarus
SIG Website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/

or go directly to it at the address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_no_2.htm

If you choose the first option you will be taken to the "Newsletter Front
Page" which in the future will list first the newest issue, and below the
back issues.

At the bottom of the "Newsletter Front Page" there is a NetMind box in
which you can type in your e-mail address and then submit to update service
which is free of charge.

If you do that, you will automatically be notified whenever a new issue is
published or if any changes are made.

We are working to give you the option of downloading the Newsletter as a
file for distribution to those with interest in the Belarus, but without
access to the Internet. When we have found the best way to do that, we will
let you know. For the time being you can chose "File|Print".

In this issue you will find:

First of all we would like to call your attention to two different
suggestions as to how your personal genealogical interest in Belarus might
be translated into benefits for the Jewish Community of Belarus - which
really needs our help.

By a strange coincidence we have received two separate articles on journeys
to Kozanhorodok. The one journey also encompassed a visit to Luninets - and
therefore we have put a link to an article >from The Columbus Dispatch
(January 23, 1997) which is an interview with a WWII survivor from
Luninets: "A survivor's story".

You can also find an account of Jewish life in a shtetl in Europe given by
Cheyna Rogovin Chertow (born 1912), who shares her memories of Belakoritz
and Wolozyn 1912-1931 with us.

We also bring an article on "Settlers in Yekaterinoslav Guberniya",
although you might thing that it is a little out of place on the Belarus
SIG. However, we found that is was very appropriate, as it tells how Jews
were encouraged to leave the crowded and economically poor centers in the
north (e.g Belarus) and establish new settlements in Novorussia. Thus, you
might be inspired to look for an missing ancestor in a place where you
might never have imagined!

Our SIG Coordinator, David M. Fox, relates the newest plans and
undertakings in his letter, and keeps us updated on new records uncovered
in the Minsk Archive.

Many have responded with enthusiasm to the request (in the first issue of
the Newsletter) for help to identify unknown persons depicted in old
photos. We have therefore decided to make it a special feature of the
Belarus SIG Newsletter and the Belarus website. So read more about that -
and if you have such enigmatic photos, send them to us for publication, and
give as much information as you possibly can about the photos.

We would like to have some feed-back on the Newsletter:

First, we would like to have your comments, questions, reports of errors etc.

Second, we would appreciate your evaluation of the Newsletter. An Online
Newsletter is something new and special. It gives ample possibilities for
"publishing" a lot of beautiful and interesting photos etc, which in a
normal printed edition would be much too expensive. However, you might find
that some of the articles are too slow to access, because of the many
photos. You can, of course, in your browser choose the option NOT to
display images! But then there is not much point in publishing them in the
first place. So the problem is to strike the golden mean!

Third, we would appreciate any suggestions for the future issues - contents
or otherwise.

If you will help us with any - or all - please send an e-mail to:
elsebeth@paikin.dk


Best regards

Elsebeth Paikin, Assistant Editor
Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
elsebeth@paikin.dk

Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk


Burial societies in determining town of origin #general

Ada Greenblatt <ada.Greenblatt@...>
 

Ken Stone <ken@instrumental.com> asks:

If one can identify the burial society, synagogue, or other designated
sections of a large conglomeration of smaller cemeteries such as
Waldheim in Chicago, would that be a clue to European town of origin?

While it is safe to say that the majority of burials in a landsmmanschaft
plot were >from that particular town, there are a number of exceptions. For
unknown reason, my grandfather's sister and her husband, both >from Seta,
Lithuania, are buried in Waldheim's Chomsker plot, which is for a town in
Belarus where they have no roots. Although Waldheim has no burial society
for Seta itself, there are other people >from that town buried in Waldheim's
Keidaner and Kovner plots, which would make more sense since those were
nearby towns in Lithuania. Also for unknown reason, in New York my
grandmother's brother >from Nadworna, Galicia is buried in a Bialystoker
plot when not only are there four landsmannschaft plots for Nadworna, but
according to the Nadworna Yitzkor Book he was one of the founders of the
Nadworna Social Circle, Inc.

Taking the six NY and Chicago landsmannschaft plots for Keidan, Lithuania
as an example, which I have studied extensively, not everyone buried in
them is >from Keidan and likewise, not everyone >from Keidan is buried in a
Keidaner plot. I have Keidan-born relatives buried in Waldheim's B'nai
Itzchok plot, as opposed to its Kadaner Unt. Verein. Oftentimes, a person
was buried in a particular society only because the surviving spouse came
from that town. Or the deceased may have just associated with people from
that society in his/her lifetime.

In sum, while a landsmannschaft plot is a very good indicator of the town
in which the deceased was from, you would need more definitive
documentation (passenger ship records, naturalization records, vital
records) to back that up. I was fortunate in that the Chicago death certs.
of almost all of my first generation Lithuanian relatives buried at
Waldheim list their town of birth.

Ada Greenblatt
ada.Greenblatt@worldnet.att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Burial societies in determining town of origin #general

Ada Greenblatt <ada.Greenblatt@...>
 

Ken Stone <ken@instrumental.com> asks:

If one can identify the burial society, synagogue, or other designated
sections of a large conglomeration of smaller cemeteries such as
Waldheim in Chicago, would that be a clue to European town of origin?

While it is safe to say that the majority of burials in a landsmmanschaft
plot were >from that particular town, there are a number of exceptions. For
unknown reason, my grandfather's sister and her husband, both >from Seta,
Lithuania, are buried in Waldheim's Chomsker plot, which is for a town in
Belarus where they have no roots. Although Waldheim has no burial society
for Seta itself, there are other people >from that town buried in Waldheim's
Keidaner and Kovner plots, which would make more sense since those were
nearby towns in Lithuania. Also for unknown reason, in New York my
grandmother's brother >from Nadworna, Galicia is buried in a Bialystoker
plot when not only are there four landsmannschaft plots for Nadworna, but
according to the Nadworna Yitzkor Book he was one of the founders of the
Nadworna Social Circle, Inc.

Taking the six NY and Chicago landsmannschaft plots for Keidan, Lithuania
as an example, which I have studied extensively, not everyone buried in
them is >from Keidan and likewise, not everyone >from Keidan is buried in a
Keidaner plot. I have Keidan-born relatives buried in Waldheim's B'nai
Itzchok plot, as opposed to its Kadaner Unt. Verein. Oftentimes, a person
was buried in a particular society only because the surviving spouse came
from that town. Or the deceased may have just associated with people from
that society in his/her lifetime.

In sum, while a landsmannschaft plot is a very good indicator of the town
in which the deceased was from, you would need more definitive
documentation (passenger ship records, naturalization records, vital
records) to back that up. I was fortunate in that the Chicago death certs.
of almost all of my first generation Lithuanian relatives buried at
Waldheim list their town of birth.

Ada Greenblatt
ada.Greenblatt@worldnet.att.net


South Africa to Boston #general

MS ANN RABINOWITZ <PQUA32A@...>
 

There was no direct passage >from South Africa to Boston!!! A
passenger going >from South Africa to Boston would have probably
travelled to England on a Union Castle Liner then transferred to
another ship >from one of the ports in England to America. You will
have to look at all the arrivals >from England. You might try looking
at the Poor Jews Temporary Shelter Database first if your passenger
travelled within the dates of 1896 - 1915.

Also, look at the the South African InfoFile on JewishGen for more
info.

Ann Rabinowitz
pqua32a@prodigy.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen South Africa to Boston #general

MS ANN RABINOWITZ <PQUA32A@...>
 

There was no direct passage >from South Africa to Boston!!! A
passenger going >from South Africa to Boston would have probably
travelled to England on a Union Castle Liner then transferred to
another ship >from one of the ports in England to America. You will
have to look at all the arrivals >from England. You might try looking
at the Poor Jews Temporary Shelter Database first if your passenger
travelled within the dates of 1896 - 1915.

Also, look at the the South African InfoFile on JewishGen for more
info.

Ann Rabinowitz
pqua32a@prodigy.com


Re: Pass.arrival in South Africa #general

Ralph Berrick <rbofrb@...>
 

Regarding travel >from UK to South Africa, my aunt siled >from Southampton in
1913, aboard the Kenilworth Castle, landing in Capetown, SA. >from there,
she went to Johannesburg.
Ralph Berrick
San Diego, Ca.

gayle riley wrote:

If a person went to live in Johannesburg, South Africa around 1890, what
port would he have arrived at? I am looking for arrival info for Isaac
Gold who came >from Romania in about 1891..I did check one set of arrival
at FHL and could not find him..As this a new field for me,I could use
some advise..Gayle >from San Gabriel, Calif.
Gayle Riley
mailto:key2pst@PACBELL.NET


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pass.arrival in South Africa #general

Ralph Berrick <rbofrb@...>
 

Regarding travel >from UK to South Africa, my aunt siled >from Southampton in
1913, aboard the Kenilworth Castle, landing in Capetown, SA. >from there,
she went to Johannesburg.
Ralph Berrick
San Diego, Ca.

gayle riley wrote:

If a person went to live in Johannesburg, South Africa around 1890, what
port would he have arrived at? I am looking for arrival info for Isaac
Gold who came >from Romania in about 1891..I did check one set of arrival
at FHL and could not find him..As this a new field for me,I could use
some advise..Gayle >from San Gabriel, Calif.
Gayle Riley
mailto:key2pst@PACBELL.NET


Re: Dates of US census taking #general

Plutsk <plutsk@...>
 

My memory of the 1900, 1910, and 1920 censuses for Chicago is that the actual
date a given page was filled out is written at the top of that page.

Steve Gold (Plutsk@aol.com)
Detroit area

ADLER COHEN FELD GIEP GOLD KURTZMAN LEVANT STARK WECKER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dates of US census taking #general

Plutsk <plutsk@...>
 

My memory of the 1900, 1910, and 1920 censuses for Chicago is that the actual
date a given page was filled out is written at the top of that page.

Steve Gold (Plutsk@aol.com)
Detroit area

ADLER COHEN FELD GIEP GOLD KURTZMAN LEVANT STARK WECKER


Re: Gravestones #general

Rica Goldberg
 

Dear Genners

I think I have written a note of thanks direct to every individual who offered
suggestions and help re the gravestones of my great grandparents Miriam &
Nechamia KAMINSKY, but in case I have left anyone out "Thanks" again. Your
help - without doubt - helps us very amateur family genealogists move forward
one more tiny step.

Rica B Goldberg (Mrs)
Manchester, England

KAMINSKY >from Yanova near Kovna, Lithuania: DIAMOND (Probably DIMONT or
similar) >from Kovno, Lithuania: Chaim ESTRY - a glazier >from Poland:
GOLDBERG possibly Schelenger/Shlesinger/Shloozitel >from Kovno, Lithuania:
COHEN >from Poland!!!!! BERLINSKY >from ??????? LEVY >from Krosniewice,
Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Gravestones #general

Rica Goldberg
 

Dear Genners

I think I have written a note of thanks direct to every individual who offered
suggestions and help re the gravestones of my great grandparents Miriam &
Nechamia KAMINSKY, but in case I have left anyone out "Thanks" again. Your
help - without doubt - helps us very amateur family genealogists move forward
one more tiny step.

Rica B Goldberg (Mrs)
Manchester, England

KAMINSKY >from Yanova near Kovna, Lithuania: DIAMOND (Probably DIMONT or
similar) >from Kovno, Lithuania: Chaim ESTRY - a glazier >from Poland:
GOLDBERG possibly Schelenger/Shlesinger/Shloozitel >from Kovno, Lithuania:
COHEN >from Poland!!!!! BERLINSKY >from ??????? LEVY >from Krosniewice,
Poland


encyclopedias #general

M Schejtman <mario_m@...>
 

Genners!!!

I have been reading incoming mails for quite a while now.

Some people seem to regard this as an on line 24 hour help with all
kinds of non relevant questions.

Some of these questions and answers will never ever help anyone with
their family search or with tracking lost relatives (like the cheese
debate for one).

Others ask questions, instead of opening up a regular encyclopedia or an
enc.. Judaica. (who was Ahad Ha'am or Montefiore).

I know that not everyone is up on their Jewish or zionist history, but
come on! Why bother everyone with questions that are easily answered by
other means?

Good luck with all your searches

Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen encyclopedias #general

M Schejtman <mario_m@...>
 

Genners!!!

I have been reading incoming mails for quite a while now.

Some people seem to regard this as an on line 24 hour help with all
kinds of non relevant questions.

Some of these questions and answers will never ever help anyone with
their family search or with tracking lost relatives (like the cheese
debate for one).

Others ask questions, instead of opening up a regular encyclopedia or an
enc.. Judaica. (who was Ahad Ha'am or Montefiore).

I know that not everyone is up on their Jewish or zionist history, but
come on! Why bother everyone with questions that are easily answered by
other means?

Good luck with all your searches

Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem Israel


BELARUS WEBSITE UPDATED #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

The Belarus SIG Website has now been updated - be sure to check it out!

<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/>

A lot of new information has been added!


--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk


Belarus SIG #Belarus BELARUS WEBSITE UPDATED #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

The Belarus SIG Website has now been updated - be sure to check it out!

<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/>

A lot of new information has been added!


--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk


Re: Minsk/Pinsk #belarus

Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Richard Wolpoe writes:
I would be interested in information on my Father's Parents.
Chayim Chaykel (Hyman) Wolpof he migrated >from Minsk to Woodbine, NJ,
(courtesy of Baron de Hirsch) then Philadephia, PA then Brownsville/
Brooklyn, NY
///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\Richard and other new researchers,

Take your time exploring our site. We have a wide variety of databases
to *assist* you in your research. Remember that JewishGen (as an
organization) does *not* "do research"; we provide resources for you.
Have you looked at our JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)? Even if you don't
find anything now, someone else may find *you* next week. Have you tried
our ShtetlSeeker (JGSS)? Our newest database is the Family Tree of the
Jewish People (FTJP). I hope you also checked out some of the SIGs (Moderator: especially the Belarus SIG site:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/>); new ones are often getting started.
You can search any of our data bases at no charge.

Most of the general questions asked by newcomers to our site are answered
in the JewishGen FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions), available at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>
or by e-mail for those without Web access. For instructions on how to
obtain copies of the FAQ or other InfoFiles by e-mail, send an e-mail to:
index@mail.jewishgen.org

We strongly recommend that all readers of the JewishGen Discussion Group
(Moderator: and the Belarus SIG Discussion Group)
and users of the other resources of JewishGen read the FAQ. Informed
contributors make the Discussion Group a more useful resource, and
knowledge of the information contained in the FAQ will help you in your
own research.

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN
for the JewishGen Support Team


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Minsk/Pinsk #belarus

Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Richard Wolpoe writes:
I would be interested in information on my Father's Parents.
Chayim Chaykel (Hyman) Wolpof he migrated >from Minsk to Woodbine, NJ,
(courtesy of Baron de Hirsch) then Philadephia, PA then Brownsville/
Brooklyn, NY
///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\Richard and other new researchers,

Take your time exploring our site. We have a wide variety of databases
to *assist* you in your research. Remember that JewishGen (as an
organization) does *not* "do research"; we provide resources for you.
Have you looked at our JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)? Even if you don't
find anything now, someone else may find *you* next week. Have you tried
our ShtetlSeeker (JGSS)? Our newest database is the Family Tree of the
Jewish People (FTJP). I hope you also checked out some of the SIGs (Moderator: especially the Belarus SIG site:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/>); new ones are often getting started.
You can search any of our data bases at no charge.

Most of the general questions asked by newcomers to our site are answered
in the JewishGen FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions), available at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>
or by e-mail for those without Web access. For instructions on how to
obtain copies of the FAQ or other InfoFiles by e-mail, send an e-mail to:
index@mail.jewishgen.org

We strongly recommend that all readers of the JewishGen Discussion Group
(Moderator: and the Belarus SIG Discussion Group)
and users of the other resources of JewishGen read the FAQ. Informed
contributors make the Discussion Group a more useful resource, and
knowledge of the information contained in the FAQ will help you in your
own research.

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN
for the JewishGen Support Team