Date   

cemetery burials when the office doesn't have the name #general

Jonina Duker <jonina.duker@...>
 

If a landsmanschaft or schul or other similar society obtained a
section of the cemetery, many times the cemetery office will not have the
names of who actually winds up in the graves. It was up to the society
to handle the administrative details associated with that section. Ask
the cemetery office for the names of any societies that have sections set
aside. Then to get the names of those buried you have to contact the
society. If the society is defunct check the YIVO guide to
landsmanschaften. If that doesn't work see earlier posting on dealing
with state authorities. Or post on JewishGen to see if anyone
else knows about the society.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen cemetery burials when the office doesn't have the name #general

Jonina Duker <jonina.duker@...>
 

If a landsmanschaft or schul or other similar society obtained a
section of the cemetery, many times the cemetery office will not have the
names of who actually winds up in the graves. It was up to the society
to handle the administrative details associated with that section. Ask
the cemetery office for the names of any societies that have sections set
aside. Then to get the names of those buried you have to contact the
society. If the society is defunct check the YIVO guide to
landsmanschaften. If that doesn't work see earlier posting on dealing
with state authorities. Or post on JewishGen to see if anyone
else knows about the society.


Death Certificate, New Jersey, 1930 #general

IRSWED <irswed@...>
 

How can I obtain a copy of my grandfather: Louis Rosenberg's death
certificate. He died in 1930. He lived in Jerssey City, NJ.

Irene Swedroe: IRSWED@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: See the JewishGen FAQ ("Frequently Asked Questions")
document: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Death Certificate, New Jersey, 1930 #general

IRSWED <irswed@...>
 

How can I obtain a copy of my grandfather: Louis Rosenberg's death
certificate. He died in 1930. He lived in Jerssey City, NJ.

Irene Swedroe: IRSWED@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: See the JewishGen FAQ ("Frequently Asked Questions")
document: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html.


The meaning of a strange foreign phrase? #general

BONUS <yairharuNOSPAM@...>
 

Hi Jewishgenners,
I hope that someone out there can help me. While going through, and trying
to make sense of, a mass of old paper, documents, letters, etc., I came
across an old note apparently written by my brother about 40-45 years ago,
when he was a teenager. It contains a rather strange phrase in what sounds
like Chinese, but cannot be so. He quotes our late mother, who knew only
English, Dutch, Yiddish and a smattering of Hebrew.

The note is written as follows:
"Here's a little phrase that my mother said to me, when I was just a little
lad aged only two or three - Ying Tong Yiddel Eye Poe (pronounced as in
Edgar Allan)".

Does anyone know what this phrase could mean, and in what language it is?
It may be nothing, but it could also be genealogically very important to
me. Any replies or information would be heartily welcomed.

Just a short word of thanks in advance - "TIA". They say that even the milk
of human kindness can be condensed!

All the best,
Chaim Charutz - Petach Tikva, Israel.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The meaning of a strange foreign phrase? #general

BONUS <yairharuNOSPAM@...>
 

Hi Jewishgenners,
I hope that someone out there can help me. While going through, and trying
to make sense of, a mass of old paper, documents, letters, etc., I came
across an old note apparently written by my brother about 40-45 years ago,
when he was a teenager. It contains a rather strange phrase in what sounds
like Chinese, but cannot be so. He quotes our late mother, who knew only
English, Dutch, Yiddish and a smattering of Hebrew.

The note is written as follows:
"Here's a little phrase that my mother said to me, when I was just a little
lad aged only two or three - Ying Tong Yiddel Eye Poe (pronounced as in
Edgar Allan)".

Does anyone know what this phrase could mean, and in what language it is?
It may be nothing, but it could also be genealogically very important to
me. Any replies or information would be heartily welcomed.

Just a short word of thanks in advance - "TIA". They say that even the milk
of human kindness can be condensed!

All the best,
Chaim Charutz - Petach Tikva, Israel.


Sosnowiec #yizkorbooks

Martin Kessel <mkessel@...>
 

My great grandmother Liba Lenczner was born 1878 in Szczekociny and her
daughter my grandmother was born in 1904 in Sosnowiec. Was trying to learn of
Yizkor (in English) for those areas. Supposedly Liba had a shoe store in
Sosnowiec around 1932 before she immigrated to US.

Thank You,

H. Michael McTeer


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Sosnowiec #yizkorbooks

Martin Kessel <mkessel@...>
 

My great grandmother Liba Lenczner was born 1878 in Szczekociny and her
daughter my grandmother was born in 1904 in Sosnowiec. Was trying to learn of
Yizkor (in English) for those areas. Supposedly Liba had a shoe store in
Sosnowiec around 1932 before she immigrated to US.

Thank You,

H. Michael McTeer


KOVNO UYEZD RESEARCH GROUP MEMBERS #lithuania

Curiousyl@...
 

I mailed Update # 5 to members of our group, following the posting by David
Hoffman and Davida Handler.

If I inadvertently missed your e-mail address, and you did not receive my
message, please let me know, privately.

Thank you.

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Coordinator: Kovno Uyezd Research group


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania KOVNO UYEZD RESEARCH GROUP MEMBERS #lithuania

Curiousyl@...
 

I mailed Update # 5 to members of our group, following the posting by David
Hoffman and Davida Handler.

If I inadvertently missed your e-mail address, and you did not receive my
message, please let me know, privately.

Thank you.

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Coordinator: Kovno Uyezd Research group


Re: Information re: KUDIRKOS NAUMIESTIS (Lithuania); formerly NEUSTADT, East ... #lithuania

DBH12345@...
 

<< In response to my earlier posting re: NEUSTADT, a kind cousin forwarded the
name and location of the town. It is now called KUDIRKOS NAUMIESTIS, and is
located 54 46/22 53, between KOVNO and KALININGRAD (formerly Konigsberg). I'm
wondering if anyone else in litvaksig has roots in this town or region, and/or
information to share about them.

Thank you for your attention!

Matt Singer
Philadelphia
msinger@philamuseum.org >>

Dear Matt,

There is a shtetl research group for this town coordinated by Ben Lesin
<LithHands@aol.com>. Ben's family left in 1939 and he has a great deal of
information.

David Hoffman
Co-Coordinator, LitvakSIG


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Information re: KUDIRKOS NAUMIESTIS (Lithuania); formerly NEUSTADT, East ... #lithuania

DBH12345@...
 

<< In response to my earlier posting re: NEUSTADT, a kind cousin forwarded the
name and location of the town. It is now called KUDIRKOS NAUMIESTIS, and is
located 54 46/22 53, between KOVNO and KALININGRAD (formerly Konigsberg). I'm
wondering if anyone else in litvaksig has roots in this town or region, and/or
information to share about them.

Thank you for your attention!

Matt Singer
Philadelphia
msinger@philamuseum.org >>

Dear Matt,

There is a shtetl research group for this town coordinated by Ben Lesin
<LithHands@aol.com>. Ben's family left in 1939 and he has a great deal of
information.

David Hoffman
Co-Coordinator, LitvakSIG


Donations to h-sig projects #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

According to the most recent accounting given to me by Jewishgen here are
the funds in our various h-sig projects:

H-sig general fund $60.00
Memoria- Hungarian Jewish Genealogy Society $125.00
Uzhgorod cemetery $50.00
Vranov cemetery $50.00

The Jewishgen American Express Account will be available to transfer these
funds by the end of this month.
The amounts shown do not include the matching funds I pledged for specific
projects which will be included at the time of transfer. A previous attempt
that I had made several years ago at sending money by personal check did not
work well since the banks in Hungary and Slovakia charge high fees for
cashing many types of checks. A more recent attempt that I also made to send
cash also ended in "disaster" so the only method I recommend is via
Jewishgen's Amex account whereby the recipient/vendor receives payment at a
local American Express office and signs a receipt.
To view the various h-sig projects and make a tax-deductible contribution
the URL is:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/hungary.html

Best wishes to all
Louis Schonfeld




Please visit our website at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/


More Yizkor book excerpts #lithuania

A.W.Cassel <awcassel@...>
 

Many thanks for Monty Starr for translating the story of the Doctor and the
Town Chief. (Would it be accurate to call that fellow a Police Chief, or
Constable, Monty? I suppose the most suitable English term might depend on
whether your orientation was to British or American officialdom ... )

At any rate, here's yet another of the Yizkor book articles; this one
appears on page 92. It was translated into English by Chaim Charutz of
Israel. I think a "progymnasium" would be roughly equivalent to a middle or
junior-high school ...

Best to all,

Andy


-------------------------------------------------------------------------



Dr. Mordechai Suchin (Minneapolis)

Reminiscences of the Progymnasium in Keidan

The progymnasium was established in 1921. During its first year, about 40
students, aged approximately 13, were registered. They all studied in one
class. The teacher and first principal was Reb Yisrael Magentza. He was a
young man, a bachelor, charismatic, with eminent knowledge in the social
sciences generally and in Jewish studies in particular. However, he was
mainly an "emissary" par excellence, devoted to his work, with a
national-pioneering disposition, who knew what was ahead of him and who
overcame all difficulties.
In his first year, he stayed in the house of a German pastor at the edge
of the city. This house was furnished as a school for teaching his
community. The Pastor, by the way, was also the German teacher. The students
suffered >from him, because he beat them with his hand, which had a heavy
ring on one of its fingers. At one time, the students rebelled and refused
to return to the class after the break.
The subjects taught in the first year were Hebrew language and
literature, Jewish and general history, geography and Bible. Most of the
subjects did not have textbooks. The teacher used to prepare stencils in his
own handwriting and the students used to come to his room to help him make
copies.
During its second year, the progymnasium moved to the city center, to a
two-story building with classrooms and a staff room. Mathematics, nature
studies and Lithuanian were added as subjects. For mathematics, we used the
book of Sh. Kapit, hand-written and printed by offset. The history text was
written by Luboshitsky. For literature, we used "Chistomathia" (by K.
Shulman) and the Hebrew syntax of N. Lidsky.
The first teacher, Mr. Magentza, had a strong influence on his students
both within and outside the classroom. I remember that he took the students
to Plednegi, about seven miles >from the city. It had a training farm for
pioneers preparing for Aliya to Palestine. It is possible to imagine the
impression that this made on the young students. On this visit, they saw the
Zionist idea being actualized before their very eyes, and hinting at the way
of realization. He helped the students to set up a Hebrew library. They
ordered books >from the "Dvir" and "Shtibel" publishers, and they filled
their bellies with a selection of general literature translated into Hebrew,
and of Modern Hebrew literature. They organized "literary trials". One of
these, on Samuel and Saul, was publicly presented and created anger amongst
the ultra-Orthodox because of the non-traditional interpretations expressed
by some of the students.
Most of the students belonged to the "Hebrew Scouts", which later became
affiliated to "Hashomer Hatsair". Its attitude regarding Zionism undoubtedly
indirectly influenced the decision of the management to change the
non-nationalist Scouts Federation to one of Scouts with a clear Zionist
orientation.
When Magentza left Keidan, the school decided to replace him with a
principal with a formal degree. The aim was to ratify the institution in the
eyes of the government, with respect to the granting of rights to a
high-school matriculation certificate. Because it was difficult to find such
a man in Lithuania, they brought him >from Germany. His name was Dr. Meyer
Kashinsky, a religious Jew who had difficulty speaking Hebrew, and taught
history in German. Apart >from him, we had a humanities teacher called
Klatschko, and a Mr. Bloch to teach physical science. We also had a good
teacher of Lithuanian, the wife of an army officer who lived in the area.
Attention was also paid to physical training. The gymnastics teacher used to
march us through the city streets to the gymnastics hall, where we would
participate in various complicated physical exercises.
After Dr. Kashinsky came Dr. Richman. He was an elderly man, pleasant and
easygoing. In his days, the school was managed peacefully and quietly. One
of his projects involved establishing a natural history museum. He used to
bring snakes, butterflies, etc., and display them within a glass cupboard.
After four years of study, those students who wished to continue their
studies used to transfer to the Hebrew gymnasium in Kovno. I remember that
we had a group of about ten students who sat for examinations in 1925 at the
"Schwabe Gymnasium" in Kovno, and nearly all of them were received for the
sixth form.
Those were good days for the Jews of Lithuania. There was an atmosphere
of freedom, and we were able to develop education and the community
autonomously according to the spirit and traditions of our nation. However,
this period did not last long. The Lithuanians undermined this freedom with
all sorts of restrictions. Many of the nation's youth foresaw that the
Golden Age in Lithuania would not last long, and they emigrated to
Palestine. Many of our school's students are living now in Israel, in
Kibbutzim and towns. It's a pity that so many stayed behind and were
entrapped in the Holocaust.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Donations to h-sig projects #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

According to the most recent accounting given to me by Jewishgen here are
the funds in our various h-sig projects:

H-sig general fund $60.00
Memoria- Hungarian Jewish Genealogy Society $125.00
Uzhgorod cemetery $50.00
Vranov cemetery $50.00

The Jewishgen American Express Account will be available to transfer these
funds by the end of this month.
The amounts shown do not include the matching funds I pledged for specific
projects which will be included at the time of transfer. A previous attempt
that I had made several years ago at sending money by personal check did not
work well since the banks in Hungary and Slovakia charge high fees for
cashing many types of checks. A more recent attempt that I also made to send
cash also ended in "disaster" so the only method I recommend is via
Jewishgen's Amex account whereby the recipient/vendor receives payment at a
local American Express office and signs a receipt.
To view the various h-sig projects and make a tax-deductible contribution
the URL is:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/hungary.html

Best wishes to all
Louis Schonfeld




Please visit our website at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania More Yizkor book excerpts #lithuania

A.W.Cassel <awcassel@...>
 

Many thanks for Monty Starr for translating the story of the Doctor and the
Town Chief. (Would it be accurate to call that fellow a Police Chief, or
Constable, Monty? I suppose the most suitable English term might depend on
whether your orientation was to British or American officialdom ... )

At any rate, here's yet another of the Yizkor book articles; this one
appears on page 92. It was translated into English by Chaim Charutz of
Israel. I think a "progymnasium" would be roughly equivalent to a middle or
junior-high school ...

Best to all,

Andy


-------------------------------------------------------------------------



Dr. Mordechai Suchin (Minneapolis)

Reminiscences of the Progymnasium in Keidan

The progymnasium was established in 1921. During its first year, about 40
students, aged approximately 13, were registered. They all studied in one
class. The teacher and first principal was Reb Yisrael Magentza. He was a
young man, a bachelor, charismatic, with eminent knowledge in the social
sciences generally and in Jewish studies in particular. However, he was
mainly an "emissary" par excellence, devoted to his work, with a
national-pioneering disposition, who knew what was ahead of him and who
overcame all difficulties.
In his first year, he stayed in the house of a German pastor at the edge
of the city. This house was furnished as a school for teaching his
community. The Pastor, by the way, was also the German teacher. The students
suffered >from him, because he beat them with his hand, which had a heavy
ring on one of its fingers. At one time, the students rebelled and refused
to return to the class after the break.
The subjects taught in the first year were Hebrew language and
literature, Jewish and general history, geography and Bible. Most of the
subjects did not have textbooks. The teacher used to prepare stencils in his
own handwriting and the students used to come to his room to help him make
copies.
During its second year, the progymnasium moved to the city center, to a
two-story building with classrooms and a staff room. Mathematics, nature
studies and Lithuanian were added as subjects. For mathematics, we used the
book of Sh. Kapit, hand-written and printed by offset. The history text was
written by Luboshitsky. For literature, we used "Chistomathia" (by K.
Shulman) and the Hebrew syntax of N. Lidsky.
The first teacher, Mr. Magentza, had a strong influence on his students
both within and outside the classroom. I remember that he took the students
to Plednegi, about seven miles >from the city. It had a training farm for
pioneers preparing for Aliya to Palestine. It is possible to imagine the
impression that this made on the young students. On this visit, they saw the
Zionist idea being actualized before their very eyes, and hinting at the way
of realization. He helped the students to set up a Hebrew library. They
ordered books >from the "Dvir" and "Shtibel" publishers, and they filled
their bellies with a selection of general literature translated into Hebrew,
and of Modern Hebrew literature. They organized "literary trials". One of
these, on Samuel and Saul, was publicly presented and created anger amongst
the ultra-Orthodox because of the non-traditional interpretations expressed
by some of the students.
Most of the students belonged to the "Hebrew Scouts", which later became
affiliated to "Hashomer Hatsair". Its attitude regarding Zionism undoubtedly
indirectly influenced the decision of the management to change the
non-nationalist Scouts Federation to one of Scouts with a clear Zionist
orientation.
When Magentza left Keidan, the school decided to replace him with a
principal with a formal degree. The aim was to ratify the institution in the
eyes of the government, with respect to the granting of rights to a
high-school matriculation certificate. Because it was difficult to find such
a man in Lithuania, they brought him >from Germany. His name was Dr. Meyer
Kashinsky, a religious Jew who had difficulty speaking Hebrew, and taught
history in German. Apart >from him, we had a humanities teacher called
Klatschko, and a Mr. Bloch to teach physical science. We also had a good
teacher of Lithuanian, the wife of an army officer who lived in the area.
Attention was also paid to physical training. The gymnastics teacher used to
march us through the city streets to the gymnastics hall, where we would
participate in various complicated physical exercises.
After Dr. Kashinsky came Dr. Richman. He was an elderly man, pleasant and
easygoing. In his days, the school was managed peacefully and quietly. One
of his projects involved establishing a natural history museum. He used to
bring snakes, butterflies, etc., and display them within a glass cupboard.
After four years of study, those students who wished to continue their
studies used to transfer to the Hebrew gymnasium in Kovno. I remember that
we had a group of about ten students who sat for examinations in 1925 at the
"Schwabe Gymnasium" in Kovno, and nearly all of them were received for the
sixth form.
Those were good days for the Jews of Lithuania. There was an atmosphere
of freedom, and we were able to develop education and the community
autonomously according to the spirit and traditions of our nation. However,
this period did not last long. The Lithuanians undermined this freedom with
all sorts of restrictions. Many of the nation's youth foresaw that the
Golden Age in Lithuania would not last long, and they emigrated to
Palestine. Many of our school's students are living now in Israel, in
Kibbutzim and towns. It's a pity that so many stayed behind and were
entrapped in the Holocaust.


Re: Social Security Records #belarus

Maria Krane
 

Hello Folks,
Please keep in mind that not all deaths are recorded on the index
either. I was unable to find my husband's grandfather in the index, as well
as other family members. I assumed he might not have applied for social
security. I found his SS# on his death certificate. I had forgotten it was
there. I sent away for the application at that point. If you don't have the
SS# they will do a search for you but it is more (about $14). In other words,
don't give up because the information isn't easily available.
Regards,

Maria Krane
Pembroke Pines, Florida
MariaKrane@aol.com

searching: HOFFMAN/RACHMAN in Svir, Belarus, HOFFMAN/KATZ/REMER in
Salakas, Lithuania and KREYN/OKIN/SCHULDNER in Vegery, Lithuania


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Social Security Records #belarus

Maria Krane
 

Hello Folks,
Please keep in mind that not all deaths are recorded on the index
either. I was unable to find my husband's grandfather in the index, as well
as other family members. I assumed he might not have applied for social
security. I found his SS# on his death certificate. I had forgotten it was
there. I sent away for the application at that point. If you don't have the
SS# they will do a search for you but it is more (about $14). In other words,
don't give up because the information isn't easily available.
Regards,

Maria Krane
Pembroke Pines, Florida
MariaKrane@aol.com

searching: HOFFMAN/RACHMAN in Svir, Belarus, HOFFMAN/KATZ/REMER in
Salakas, Lithuania and KREYN/OKIN/SCHULDNER in Vegery, Lithuania


Welcome Belarus SIG Member 500 #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG Members,

I am please to announce that Irene Kudish has become the 500th member of
the Belarus SIG. In a little over six months this SIG has grown >from an
idea to a very viable group. Thanks to all the volunteers and
contributors who have made this possible. I hope that more people will
come forward to head up research projects for their areas of interest.
You are starting to see the results of some of the earlier research
efforts that are now appearing on on website. There are some others
that are close to being finished. The wheels are rolling to establish
the All Belarus Database where you will be able to search an a name once
to find where it appears on all the databases. For our new members, I
urge you to visit the Belarus SIG website
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/> and explore the various links.
Don't forget the first two issues of our online newsletter.

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD, USA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Welcome Belarus SIG Member 500 #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG Members,

I am please to announce that Irene Kudish has become the 500th member of
the Belarus SIG. In a little over six months this SIG has grown >from an
idea to a very viable group. Thanks to all the volunteers and
contributors who have made this possible. I hope that more people will
come forward to head up research projects for their areas of interest.
You are starting to see the results of some of the earlier research
efforts that are now appearing on on website. There are some others
that are close to being finished. The wheels are rolling to establish
the All Belarus Database where you will be able to search an a name once
to find where it appears on all the databases. For our new members, I
urge you to visit the Belarus SIG website
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/> and explore the various links.
Don't forget the first two issues of our online newsletter.

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD, USA