Date   

NY Conference Registration - SIG & B-O-F Meetings #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG Members,

I just received a message >from Hadassah Lipsius, a member of this SIG
and the NY Jewish Genealogy Conference SIG and B-O-F coordintator. The
message is repeated below. Even if you cannot attend the whole
conference, you can register for one day. Our SIG meeting, Oleg
Perzashkevitch"s lecture on "Jewish Genealogical Records in Belarus",
the Slonim Research Group meeting, the Nesvizh Study Group meeting,
"The Pale of Settlement: The Czars' Edicts and Their Impact on Our
Ancestors" - a lecture, " Documentation and Preservation of Jewish
Monuments in Central and Eastern Europe"- a lecture by Sm Gruber, and a
few others of interest to Belarus researcher are all scheduled for
Monday, Aug. 9. Those of you living in the NY city metro area who had
not planned to attend the whole conference should consider doing a one
day registration for Monday. For registration information and a
complete conference schedule, please go the Belarus SIG homepage
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/> and click on the New York
Conference.
--
David M. Fox
fox@erols.com
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD

***********************
Subject: NY Conference-Special Interest Group and Birds of a Feather
Meetings
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:01:11 EDT
From: Kesher@aol.com

Dear SIG and B-O-F meeting Coordinators and Machers:

All conference sessions, including the SIG and B-O-F meetings in the
rooms
that the NY Conference is providing are not open to the public. The
participants at your meetings must be registered at the conference.

The 19th Annual Jewish Genealogy Conference Administration will be
checking
badges and those without will be asked to leave.

There will be 1100 + participants at the conference and over 30 SIG and
B-O-F
meetings are already scheduled.

Hoping you have productive and successful meetings.

Hadassah Lipsius
NY Jewish Genealogy Conference
SIG and B-O-F coordinator


Belarus SIG #Belarus NY Conference Registration - SIG & B-O-F Meetings #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG Members,

I just received a message >from Hadassah Lipsius, a member of this SIG
and the NY Jewish Genealogy Conference SIG and B-O-F coordintator. The
message is repeated below. Even if you cannot attend the whole
conference, you can register for one day. Our SIG meeting, Oleg
Perzashkevitch"s lecture on "Jewish Genealogical Records in Belarus",
the Slonim Research Group meeting, the Nesvizh Study Group meeting,
"The Pale of Settlement: The Czars' Edicts and Their Impact on Our
Ancestors" - a lecture, " Documentation and Preservation of Jewish
Monuments in Central and Eastern Europe"- a lecture by Sm Gruber, and a
few others of interest to Belarus researcher are all scheduled for
Monday, Aug. 9. Those of you living in the NY city metro area who had
not planned to attend the whole conference should consider doing a one
day registration for Monday. For registration information and a
complete conference schedule, please go the Belarus SIG homepage
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/> and click on the New York
Conference.
--
David M. Fox
fox@erols.com
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD

***********************
Subject: NY Conference-Special Interest Group and Birds of a Feather
Meetings
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:01:11 EDT
From: Kesher@aol.com

Dear SIG and B-O-F meeting Coordinators and Machers:

All conference sessions, including the SIG and B-O-F meetings in the
rooms
that the NY Conference is providing are not open to the public. The
participants at your meetings must be registered at the conference.

The 19th Annual Jewish Genealogy Conference Administration will be
checking
badges and those without will be asked to leave.

There will be 1100 + participants at the conference and over 30 SIG and
B-O-F
meetings are already scheduled.

Hoping you have productive and successful meetings.

Hadassah Lipsius
NY Jewish Genealogy Conference
SIG and B-O-F coordinator


Ivatsevichi/Ivatseviche/Ivacevichy - Other Researchers? #belarus

Howard Zinn <zeeman@...>
 

I am just beginning to research the above named shtetl which is located at
52* 43' / 25* 21' in Belarus. Has anyone researched this small area or is
anyone else interested in learning about Ivatseviche / Ivacevichy?

Howard S. Zinn
Freehold, NJ
zeeman@iop.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Ivatsevichi/Ivatseviche/Ivacevichy - Other Researchers? #belarus

Howard Zinn <zeeman@...>
 

I am just beginning to research the above named shtetl which is located at
52* 43' / 25* 21' in Belarus. Has anyone researched this small area or is
anyone else interested in learning about Ivatseviche / Ivacevichy?

Howard S. Zinn
Freehold, NJ
zeeman@iop.com


Re: Novogrudok, Belarus Rabbis #belarus

Larry & Doris Phillips <ldphill@...>
 

My name is Larry Phillips and I live in Forest Ranch California. I read
your e-mail of July 18 and was very excited. However, my family comes from
Minsk, Belarus.

My g'father was Abraham Samuel RABINOVITCH. He was born in Minsk in May of
1883. His father was Samuel RABINOVITCH and his mother was Leah SHAPIRO.

According to family legend my g'fathers father or g'father was the Chief
Rabbi of Minsk. My g'father had two sisters who went to Switzerland to
study medicine and became one of the first women doctors in Russia.

My g'father came to New York around 1903. He and his cousin Max Samuel
HINDEN married sisters. My g'father married Mary EMEN and Max married
Rachel EMEN.

There is a tradition in the family that the Rabbi that was the Chief Rabbi
of Minsk was known as "Reb Tevele".

My g'father came to the US because he didn't want to become a Rabbi.

I do have pictures of my g'parents taken around 1914.

I am searching RABINOVITCH, EMEN, SHAPIRO, HINDEN/GINDEN and MELNICK

Sincerely,

Larry Phillips
<ldphill@maxinet.com>


Alan Golnick <agolnick@compuserve.com> wrote:
Researching Novogrudok, Belarus Rabbis.
For following the family names are unknown:
-RABBI DAVID, born 1769, died 1836, the Rabbi of Novogrudok 1794-1836. Born
Kletsk, son of RABBI MOSHE & Leah. RABBI DAVID was my 3x Gr grandfather.
-Assumed to be RABBI BEN ZION, born about 1800, son-in-law of RABBI DAVID.
-Assumed to be RABBI TZEMARCH, born about 1825, son of RABBI BEN ZION.
RABINOWITCH is the only family name I have:
-RABBI YITZCHOK RABINOWITCH, born 1801, son of RABBI CHAIM RABINOWITCH.
Yitzchok was my 2x Gr grandfather.
-RABBIS SCHMUEL & AVROM RABINOWITCH, were sons of RABBI YITZCHOK. SCHMUEL
was born 1820 & died 1908. AVROM was born 1823.

MODERATOR NOTE: Check out the Jewish Encyclopedia article on on Minsk
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/Minsk%20-%20JE.htm>. There is a list of
rabbis, one is a RABINOVITCH.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Novogrudok, Belarus Rabbis #belarus

Larry & Doris Phillips <ldphill@...>
 

My name is Larry Phillips and I live in Forest Ranch California. I read
your e-mail of July 18 and was very excited. However, my family comes from
Minsk, Belarus.

My g'father was Abraham Samuel RABINOVITCH. He was born in Minsk in May of
1883. His father was Samuel RABINOVITCH and his mother was Leah SHAPIRO.

According to family legend my g'fathers father or g'father was the Chief
Rabbi of Minsk. My g'father had two sisters who went to Switzerland to
study medicine and became one of the first women doctors in Russia.

My g'father came to New York around 1903. He and his cousin Max Samuel
HINDEN married sisters. My g'father married Mary EMEN and Max married
Rachel EMEN.

There is a tradition in the family that the Rabbi that was the Chief Rabbi
of Minsk was known as "Reb Tevele".

My g'father came to the US because he didn't want to become a Rabbi.

I do have pictures of my g'parents taken around 1914.

I am searching RABINOVITCH, EMEN, SHAPIRO, HINDEN/GINDEN and MELNICK

Sincerely,

Larry Phillips
<ldphill@maxinet.com>


Alan Golnick <agolnick@compuserve.com> wrote:
Researching Novogrudok, Belarus Rabbis.
For following the family names are unknown:
-RABBI DAVID, born 1769, died 1836, the Rabbi of Novogrudok 1794-1836. Born
Kletsk, son of RABBI MOSHE & Leah. RABBI DAVID was my 3x Gr grandfather.
-Assumed to be RABBI BEN ZION, born about 1800, son-in-law of RABBI DAVID.
-Assumed to be RABBI TZEMARCH, born about 1825, son of RABBI BEN ZION.
RABINOWITCH is the only family name I have:
-RABBI YITZCHOK RABINOWITCH, born 1801, son of RABBI CHAIM RABINOWITCH.
Yitzchok was my 2x Gr grandfather.
-RABBIS SCHMUEL & AVROM RABINOWITCH, were sons of RABBI YITZCHOK. SCHMUEL
was born 1820 & died 1908. AVROM was born 1823.

MODERATOR NOTE: Check out the Jewish Encyclopedia article on on Minsk
<http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/Minsk%20-%20JE.htm>. There is a list of
rabbis, one is a RABINOVITCH.


Translators Needed, Vsia Rossiia #belarus

TGart7777@...
 

Members of the Belarus SIG have completed translating the names >from the
Minsk section of the 1903 edition of Vsia Rossiia, the Russian Business
Directory, as well as the names >from the Mogilev section of the 1911 edition.
The Minsk section can be searched on the JewishGen web site, we anticipate
posting the Mogilev names in the near future. We plan to proceed to the
translation of the names in the Minsk Guberniia, 1911 edition. Tranlsators
are needed, the original data is in clear typewritten Russian. I will mail a
copy of the Minsk Guberniia section to the translators, data can be submitted
on paper or on a floppy disk.

I hope that the translators that were so helpful with the previous sections
will again assist. New translators are also needed. Please respond to:

Tom Gartman
TGart7777@aol.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Translators Needed, Vsia Rossiia #belarus

TGart7777@...
 

Members of the Belarus SIG have completed translating the names >from the
Minsk section of the 1903 edition of Vsia Rossiia, the Russian Business
Directory, as well as the names >from the Mogilev section of the 1911 edition.
The Minsk section can be searched on the JewishGen web site, we anticipate
posting the Mogilev names in the near future. We plan to proceed to the
translation of the names in the Minsk Guberniia, 1911 edition. Tranlsators
are needed, the original data is in clear typewritten Russian. I will mail a
copy of the Minsk Guberniia section to the translators, data can be submitted
on paper or on a floppy disk.

I hope that the translators that were so helpful with the previous sections
will again assist. New translators are also needed. Please respond to:

Tom Gartman
TGart7777@aol.com


E-mail at LVIA? #lithuania

ira.goldstein@...
 

One of the items in the suggested request form to the LVIA is the
requester's e-mail address. Does this imply that the LVIA has e-mail
capability and, if so, is their address available to the public?
Best wishes,
Ira Goldstein
Apopka,FL
E-mail: <ira.goldstein@juno.com>

The reply is that individuals at LVIA have email, and they all have access to it. Questions or orders cannot be submitted by email however, and emails will usually go unanswered. The reason for including your email address is that communication with you, during the research process, might speed things up.

David Hoffman


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania E-mail at LVIA? #lithuania

ira.goldstein@...
 

One of the items in the suggested request form to the LVIA is the
requester's e-mail address. Does this imply that the LVIA has e-mail
capability and, if so, is their address available to the public?
Best wishes,
Ira Goldstein
Apopka,FL
E-mail: <ira.goldstein@juno.com>

The reply is that individuals at LVIA have email, and they all have access to it. Questions or orders cannot be submitted by email however, and emails will usually go unanswered. The reason for including your email address is that communication with you, during the research process, might speed things up.

David Hoffman


Re: Trip to Lithuania #general

Litvaks@...
 

Forwarded Message:

I want to thank David and Sonia Hoffman for their Lithuania trip notes. I
have been reading these reports with some interest because I think it is
important for Litvaks around the world to get a clearer picture of life in
Lithuania today.

Last year I lived in Lithuania for 7 months while working on an
environmental project for the Lithuanian Seimas (parliament). As the
legislation project had to do with coastal zone management, I lived in
Klaipeda - Lithuania's third largest city.

I am writing this letter because of an error in the Hoffman's message which
is too often repeated as fact:

<Finally there are the two functioning synagogues in Lithuania, the Vilnius
choral synagogue and the Kaunas choral synagogue.>

There are actually FOUR functioning synagogues in Lithuania. The two
mentioned above, the Chabad synagogue in Vilnius and the synagogue in
Klaipeda. (Actually, I was assured that during holidays there is even a
minyan in Sauliai and Panevezhys).

I bring this up for two reasons.
1) Jewish life in Lithuania is not (completely) dead.
2) The Jewish congregation of Klaipeda (as well as those in Sauliai,
Panevezhys, Jurbarkas and Plunge) unfortunately does not benefit >from the
exposure (or financial attention) that the congregations in Vilnius and
Kaunas do.

I urge anyone who is planning a visit to Lithuania to visit the community in
Klaipeda.

I realize that this is not a strictly genealogical posting, but if anyone
has any questions about (Jewish) life in Lithuania, please feel free to
e-mail me privately.

Eial Dujovny
(Chicago, Illinois)
<eialdujovny@hotmail.com>


Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: Visit to The Vilna Gaon Jewish State Museum in Vilnius June 1999
Date: 99-07-15 10:25:49 EDT
From: EEllman
To: DBH12345

I have been enjoying very much the stories of your travels. I have had much success with the Kaunas regional archives - in fact they have told me about a previously unknown great-great-great-great-great grandfather Yudel Kreiger who, I surmise without knowing for sure, was born around 1738. They have also informed me of his previously unknown son Lieb and his previously unknown sons Moses and Tobuash. Godspeed on your journey.

Eric J. Ellman
N. Bethesda, MD

EELlman@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: For subscribers to the Litvak SIG Discussion Group who receive individual messages, rather than a digest, if you simply press the "reply" button in your e-mail program, the mail will go only to the sender of the original message, rather than the digest. This helps keep personal replies >from inadvertently coming to the digest. However, if you receive the Litvak SIG Discussion Group in individual messages and you wish to send your replies to the group as a whole, send them to litvaksig@lyris.jewishgen.org




Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Trip to Lithuania #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

Forwarded Message:

I want to thank David and Sonia Hoffman for their Lithuania trip notes. I
have been reading these reports with some interest because I think it is
important for Litvaks around the world to get a clearer picture of life in
Lithuania today.

Last year I lived in Lithuania for 7 months while working on an
environmental project for the Lithuanian Seimas (parliament). As the
legislation project had to do with coastal zone management, I lived in
Klaipeda - Lithuania's third largest city.

I am writing this letter because of an error in the Hoffman's message which
is too often repeated as fact:

<Finally there are the two functioning synagogues in Lithuania, the Vilnius
choral synagogue and the Kaunas choral synagogue.>

There are actually FOUR functioning synagogues in Lithuania. The two
mentioned above, the Chabad synagogue in Vilnius and the synagogue in
Klaipeda. (Actually, I was assured that during holidays there is even a
minyan in Sauliai and Panevezhys).

I bring this up for two reasons.
1) Jewish life in Lithuania is not (completely) dead.
2) The Jewish congregation of Klaipeda (as well as those in Sauliai,
Panevezhys, Jurbarkas and Plunge) unfortunately does not benefit >from the
exposure (or financial attention) that the congregations in Vilnius and
Kaunas do.

I urge anyone who is planning a visit to Lithuania to visit the community in
Klaipeda.

I realize that this is not a strictly genealogical posting, but if anyone
has any questions about (Jewish) life in Lithuania, please feel free to
e-mail me privately.

Eial Dujovny
(Chicago, Illinois)
<eialdujovny@hotmail.com>


Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: Visit to The Vilna Gaon Jewish State Museum in Vilnius June 1999
Date: 99-07-15 10:25:49 EDT
From: EEllman
To: DBH12345

I have been enjoying very much the stories of your travels. I have had much success with the Kaunas regional archives - in fact they have told me about a previously unknown great-great-great-great-great grandfather Yudel Kreiger who, I surmise without knowing for sure, was born around 1738. They have also informed me of his previously unknown son Lieb and his previously unknown sons Moses and Tobuash. Godspeed on your journey.

Eric J. Ellman
N. Bethesda, MD

EELlman@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: For subscribers to the Litvak SIG Discussion Group who receive individual messages, rather than a digest, if you simply press the "reply" button in your e-mail program, the mail will go only to the sender of the original message, rather than the digest. This helps keep personal replies >from inadvertently coming to the digest. However, if you receive the Litvak SIG Discussion Group in individual messages and you wish to send your replies to the group as a whole, send them to litvaksig@lyris.jewishgen.org




b-o-a-f mtg #lithuania

Paula Eisenstein Baker <eisenbak@...>
 

I won't be at the conference at all, alas.

Paula Eisenstein Baker
Houston, TX


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania b-o-a-f mtg #lithuania

Paula Eisenstein Baker <eisenbak@...>
 

I won't be at the conference at all, alas.

Paula Eisenstein Baker
Houston, TX


Vilna Uyezd Research Group Newsletter Vol. I, No. 6 #lithuania

Joelrat@...
 

Vilna Uyezd Research Group Newsletter - Vol. 1, No. 6 July ,1999

Vilna Uyezd Research Group - a branch of the LitvakSIG

LitvakSIG Co-coordinators Research Group Coordinator

David Hoffman DBH12345@aol.com Eric Goldstein ELGOLD1@aol.com
Davida Noyek Handler DNHIowa@aol.com


Vilna Uyezd Research Group Coordinator

Joel Ratner Joelrat@aol.com


In this issue...


I Supporting the VURG and 1858 Revision List Project

II Contributing material to the Newsletter

III Volunteers - Looking for data inputters

IV Volunteers - Looking for Newsletter Editor

V Volunteers - Looking for Membership Database Manager

VI Volunteers - Looking for Vilna Uyezd Research Group Coordinator



I Supporting the VURG and 1858 Revision List Project


The Vilna Uyezd Research Group is in need of supporters. The
procurement, translation and inputting of these records requires money.
We need everyone to contribute to this effort.
We will also need several major donors for this project. This is a huge
effort, as the City of Vilna was the largest of all cities in Lithuania. Our
efforts do not stop with the City of Vilna. We are in the process of
determining the records available for the
other shtetls in the Vilna Uyezd for 1858. These include the following -
Boguslaviski, Bystritsa, Gedrovitz, Gelvon, Ilya, Intkurkes, Maishagola,
Mikaliskes, Mitskunai, Moliat, Musnik, Nemenchin, Paberzhe, Redamina,
Rukoiniai, Shirvint, Tsiobikishi, and Verkia. We expect to procure those
records following the Vilna procurement.
Based on the amount required to procure and translate the Vilna Uyezd
records, we are asking everybody to contribute a minimum of US$100. This
will allow the project to be completed within a reasonable amount of time, now
estimated to take a few years.
The VURG will be publishing the surnames of those included in the RL
in this newsletter for all to see. Full translated records will be sent by
the VURG to those contributing $100 or more. This distribution will happen in
real time - every month or so, as records are received and translated, they
will be distributed to the donors.

To contribute to the Vilna Uyezd Revision List project, please send
all donations [tax-deductible in USA] to:

LITVAKSIG, inc.,
Department 77-9253
Chicago, IL 60678-9253


Please make out your checks to the LitvakSIG. You must also include the
words "Vilna Uyezd Research Group" in the memo section of the check so
your funds are properly credited to THIS effort.

A note >from Elliott Lipshultz: The bank we use accepts US dollars, British
pounds
sterling, and Canadian dollars with no charge for exchanging the currency.
Members have sent dollar denominated travelers' checks which are easily
obtained
in places that tourists visit!

For the convenience of our Israeli Litvaks, Gilda Kurtzman has accepted to
serve as Israeli Treasurer. She has agreed to collect VURG donations in
Israeli Shekalim and forward them in dollars. Please send the Shekalim
equivalent of US$100 to:

Gilda Kurtzman
Rehov HaNasim 26
49550 Petach Tikva.

For the correct exchange rate, please see your local Israeli newspaper.


II Contributing material to the Newsletter

For those of you with material which may be of interest to others in the
VURG, please contact us so we can include your articles in our newsletter.


III Volunteers - Looking for data inputters

The 1858 Vilna Uyezd Revision List project requires data inputters. Please
contact Davida Noyek Handler at DNHIowa@aol.com if you are interested in
participating.



IV Volunteers - Looking for Newsletter Editor

If there is anyone interested in pursuing the position of VURG Newsletter
Editor, please contact the VURG at Joelrat@aol.com.


V Volunteers - Looking for Membership Database Manager

If there is anyone interested in maintaining the VURG membership database,
please contact the VURG at Joelrat@aol.com for further information.


VI Volunteers - Looking for Vilna Uyezd Research Group Coordinator

The VURG is now soliciting for persons interested in coordinating the
activities of the group. For those who may be interested, please contact the
VURG to express your interest. We can be reached at Joelrat@aol.com



Joel Ratner
Coordinator, Vilna Uyezd Research Group


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Vilna Uyezd Research Group Newsletter Vol. I, No. 6 #lithuania

Joelrat@...
 

Vilna Uyezd Research Group Newsletter - Vol. 1, No. 6 July ,1999

Vilna Uyezd Research Group - a branch of the LitvakSIG

LitvakSIG Co-coordinators Research Group Coordinator

David Hoffman DBH12345@aol.com Eric Goldstein ELGOLD1@aol.com
Davida Noyek Handler DNHIowa@aol.com


Vilna Uyezd Research Group Coordinator

Joel Ratner Joelrat@aol.com


In this issue...


I Supporting the VURG and 1858 Revision List Project

II Contributing material to the Newsletter

III Volunteers - Looking for data inputters

IV Volunteers - Looking for Newsletter Editor

V Volunteers - Looking for Membership Database Manager

VI Volunteers - Looking for Vilna Uyezd Research Group Coordinator



I Supporting the VURG and 1858 Revision List Project


The Vilna Uyezd Research Group is in need of supporters. The
procurement, translation and inputting of these records requires money.
We need everyone to contribute to this effort.
We will also need several major donors for this project. This is a huge
effort, as the City of Vilna was the largest of all cities in Lithuania. Our
efforts do not stop with the City of Vilna. We are in the process of
determining the records available for the
other shtetls in the Vilna Uyezd for 1858. These include the following -
Boguslaviski, Bystritsa, Gedrovitz, Gelvon, Ilya, Intkurkes, Maishagola,
Mikaliskes, Mitskunai, Moliat, Musnik, Nemenchin, Paberzhe, Redamina,
Rukoiniai, Shirvint, Tsiobikishi, and Verkia. We expect to procure those
records following the Vilna procurement.
Based on the amount required to procure and translate the Vilna Uyezd
records, we are asking everybody to contribute a minimum of US$100. This
will allow the project to be completed within a reasonable amount of time, now
estimated to take a few years.
The VURG will be publishing the surnames of those included in the RL
in this newsletter for all to see. Full translated records will be sent by
the VURG to those contributing $100 or more. This distribution will happen in
real time - every month or so, as records are received and translated, they
will be distributed to the donors.

To contribute to the Vilna Uyezd Revision List project, please send
all donations [tax-deductible in USA] to:

LITVAKSIG, inc.,
Department 77-9253
Chicago, IL 60678-9253


Please make out your checks to the LitvakSIG. You must also include the
words "Vilna Uyezd Research Group" in the memo section of the check so
your funds are properly credited to THIS effort.

A note >from Elliott Lipshultz: The bank we use accepts US dollars, British
pounds
sterling, and Canadian dollars with no charge for exchanging the currency.
Members have sent dollar denominated travelers' checks which are easily
obtained
in places that tourists visit!

For the convenience of our Israeli Litvaks, Gilda Kurtzman has accepted to
serve as Israeli Treasurer. She has agreed to collect VURG donations in
Israeli Shekalim and forward them in dollars. Please send the Shekalim
equivalent of US$100 to:

Gilda Kurtzman
Rehov HaNasim 26
49550 Petach Tikva.

For the correct exchange rate, please see your local Israeli newspaper.


II Contributing material to the Newsletter

For those of you with material which may be of interest to others in the
VURG, please contact us so we can include your articles in our newsletter.


III Volunteers - Looking for data inputters

The 1858 Vilna Uyezd Revision List project requires data inputters. Please
contact Davida Noyek Handler at DNHIowa@aol.com if you are interested in
participating.



IV Volunteers - Looking for Newsletter Editor

If there is anyone interested in pursuing the position of VURG Newsletter
Editor, please contact the VURG at Joelrat@aol.com.


V Volunteers - Looking for Membership Database Manager

If there is anyone interested in maintaining the VURG membership database,
please contact the VURG at Joelrat@aol.com for further information.


VI Volunteers - Looking for Vilna Uyezd Research Group Coordinator

The VURG is now soliciting for persons interested in coordinating the
activities of the group. For those who may be interested, please contact the
VURG to express your interest. We can be reached at Joelrat@aol.com



Joel Ratner
Coordinator, Vilna Uyezd Research Group


Re: "Konskewale" #general

Michael Tobias <Michael@...>
 

Naomi Fatouros writes

Subject: Re:"Konskewale" (Searching for ZALCMAN, ZALTZMAN," etc.
From: NFatouros@aol.com
A short list of films for Konskowola and many other placesin Poland can be
found at:

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/lds-list.txt

Konskowola LU BMD 1826/1844 715,368 DO
Konskowola LU BMD 1845/1863 715,369 DO
Konskowola LU BMD 1866-1870 905,160 DO
Konskowola LU BMD 1871-1874 1,496,877


This is a very good site to keep in mind, or better yet, written down on
paper (just to be on the safe side, and its URL should be kept somewhere
on your desktop some. I copied down the whole listing and converted it
into a word processed document to print out.
I would like to point out that the list described above is taken from
one of the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland) web pages:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/jri-lds.htm

Although Dan Hirschberg does have links to various JRI-Poland pages
on his site I am concerned that he does not cite JRI-Poland as
the source for this page he has published on the Web.

As for spending time converting this to a Word Processed document,
you could have saved yourself a lot of time by downloading one of the
many formats available >from JRI-Poland (Word, Excel, PC+Mac),
compiled by our webmaster Steven Zedeck.

Please also note that Steven updates the JRI-Poland LDS Film
database as reports are received >from our Shtetl CO-OPs or other
regular contributors to JRI-Poland's indexing project regarding:
1. Errors in the LDS film inventory
2. The identification of pre-1826 Catholic Films with Jewish Records


Michael Tobias
Board Member
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:"Konskewale" #general

Michael Tobias <Michael@...>
 

Naomi Fatouros writes

Subject: Re:"Konskewale" (Searching for ZALCMAN, ZALTZMAN," etc.
From: NFatouros@aol.com
A short list of films for Konskowola and many other placesin Poland can be
found at:

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/lds-list.txt

Konskowola LU BMD 1826/1844 715,368 DO
Konskowola LU BMD 1845/1863 715,369 DO
Konskowola LU BMD 1866-1870 905,160 DO
Konskowola LU BMD 1871-1874 1,496,877


This is a very good site to keep in mind, or better yet, written down on
paper (just to be on the safe side, and its URL should be kept somewhere
on your desktop some. I copied down the whole listing and converted it
into a word processed document to print out.
I would like to point out that the list described above is taken from
one of the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland) web pages:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/jri-lds.htm

Although Dan Hirschberg does have links to various JRI-Poland pages
on his site I am concerned that he does not cite JRI-Poland as
the source for this page he has published on the Web.

As for spending time converting this to a Word Processed document,
you could have saved yourself a lot of time by downloading one of the
many formats available >from JRI-Poland (Word, Excel, PC+Mac),
compiled by our webmaster Steven Zedeck.

Please also note that Steven updates the JRI-Poland LDS Film
database as reports are received >from our Shtetl CO-OPs or other
regular contributors to JRI-Poland's indexing project regarding:
1. Errors in the LDS film inventory
2. The identification of pre-1826 Catholic Films with Jewish Records


Michael Tobias
Board Member
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


The official answer of Argentine Jewish Society #general

Genealogia Judia Arg. <genarg@...>
 

Dear jewishgeners:
Before to comment the mentioned message, I wish to point that today July 18,
1999, five years ago, our main Kehila was destroyed by a bumb, with 86 died
persons and hundred of injured people.
We are working in to preserving the few records safed >from that destruction,
as our first priority and it is not our guilty to need time to do it,
instead to help unkowed persons that wish to find their relatives free in
Argentine, without knowing the spanish lenguage and without knowing nothing
about our possibilities and economical situation, only cliaming that we are
obliged to work for them, Why?
Dear friends:
I wish to comment now the message >from Lew Norman and Mark Nearenberg, in
Jewishgen about that our Society stopped to help people in the search of
relatives in Argentine.
I don like to polemize and to justify our acts, because we are an
independent Society, conected with the jewish in the world only by
friendship. Anyway, if some one decided to ask our help is privative of us
to accept to help him or not to help, it is the same that some jewish
persons in the world asked us a contribution based in his jewish conditions.
Sometimes we are able to give it, sometimes we can not give any
comtribution. Or to consider that in the past if we were very cooperative we
will continue in that way till infinite?
Why we are not more cooperative:
Perhaps the people helped was not thanks us the help and forgot that behind
they will be other persons asking help. Our Society after a big quantity of
requiring, no so much friendly and very arrogants and imperative, was upset
with these requiring and decided to use their time in better projects.
In the Feldmand case, I found more than 600 Feldman in phone book, it is
imposible to phone all, really the persons that asked it has no sensibility
and did not appreciate the time of the other person...
To offer to pay was an insultive offering, because we are ashkanim, not paid
employers...
Besides there are a lot of lies in the messages issued by several persons
about our missing of help, one example one lady asked to trave her cousin,
she ignored her phone number, our investigator found three possible persons
and only one persons perhaps was the relative, but she did not accepted to
comunicate with the american lady, so american lady was ungry with us and
she putted again other message in jewishgen claiming about us. Our
investigator will send a message to you with full names in order everybody
knows that kind of person...
We received every day a lot of messages so I copy the last ones received
these days:
1)"Hello, How can i get the marrige records of someone married in Buenos
Airies
in the 1950s I only know the brides name.??? thank you so for your help"
2)"I was wondering if you might be able to direct me to someone who could
assist me in my search for a branch of my family - WITKOWSKI - that
emmigrated >from Poland ( possibly via the UK ) before WW II. We know that
they settled in Montevideo. Do you know of anyone in Uruguay who is
interested in Jewish genealogy ? Thanking you in advance for any
information." (Uruguay is other country that Argentine)
3)" Hi everyone: My cousin (3 times removed) was an author named Zussman
Segalowicz (or any
other spelling). I understand that he lived his last years in Argentina.
Have you heard about this Yiddish author?
I'll appreciate any possible information. Thank you."
4) "Dear Mr. Armony, I am looking for members of my father's family who
emigrated to Argentina
from Kartuz Bereza, once Russia now Belarus, at the beginning of this
century. Family surnames include GLAZER, RABINOWITZ, AND JOSEPH. After
all these years my father has told me that his family collected money
each year >from family households and sent it on to family in Argentina.
This was done for many years probably in the l920s and l930s.
I know that there was a group of emigrants >from Kartuz Bereza
in Argentina because they published a Yiskor book in conjunction with
emigrants >from Pruhany and other towns in l958.
I am writing to ask your help in how I can go about finding this group
of immigrants and possibly individual family members in Argentina.
Is there a database I could check besides the telephone directory that
is connected to the Argentine Jewish Genealogy Society. Are there
agencies that can help? Are there also government archives in which
I can check immigration information, etc.?

5) I am also working with the BARG (Bereza Area Research Group) which
is doing research on Kartuz Bereza and which is part of Jewishgen. You
can find us on the specific interest site at Jewishgen under Bereza Area.
There are members of this group who are looking for family in Argentina
and any help you can give me will be passed on to them also.
I look forward to hearing >from you and thank you in advance for your help".
6) Other message: "I am looking for the descendants of the following people,
originally from
Ukraine, emmigrated to Argentina in the 1920s:
Sofia Schenkman born about 1890 married to unknown BROITMAN
children: Maria Broitman married to unknown ROTMAN
Rosita Broitman married to unknown GIMELBERG
Surita Broitman
Benjamin Broitman
If you have any information about this family please contact"
Other message:
7) "Hello Mr.Armony, how are you!
My name is Moshe R.......and I live in Montreal. I had a pleassure of
meeting you in Montreal about two and a half years ago (Winter of 1997) at
a Montreal Jewish Genealogical Society meeting hosted by Stanley Diamond -
its president.
I decided to attend that meeting simply out of curiosity still thinking at
that time that the relatives I was looking for were living somewhere in
United States. About ten days after that meeting took place I received a
letter >from Israel informing me that my relatives were actually in
Argentina (most probably in Buenos Aires).
I would ike now to start looking for them now but unfortuately don't have a
very clear idea of where and how to begin.
Would you be kind enough to lend me some advice on this matter ?
I apologize for being unable to address you in Spanish and thank you very
much in advance for yur help.
I can be reached via email at..."
All above messages were answered given a solution or a guide to hire an
investigator.
Also we received by snail mail several letters asking investigations. Plus
requiring in spanish >from other american countries and Argentine.
In the three years of life of our society we solved more than 100 searches,
but received only three gifts, one chek and two books. The other above of 97
persons considered that we did our obligation to help them and we didn need
their grants...
To do all these searches I worked hard myself, but I am tired....To continue
it we need a big bureau with several persons working, and it is not our
possibilty nor wishes. For these reason we only do the more urgent requiring
and when I must phone 600 persons, (Feldman case) I think I am a fool? or a
stupid ? NO, sorry, I am not so smart but no a fool.
Thanks your time to read it.
Paul Armony
Presidente
Asociacion de Genealogia Judia de Argentina
genarg@infovia.com.ar
Important NOTE: Last week the most important jewish library in the country
was provisory closed due economical problems in our main Kehila (AMIA). They
dismissed this month 20 employers including the library employers and in the
next month other 40 employers will be out.
We offered to help for the maintenance of the library but our offering was
rejected because it was considered as against the employers dismissed.
So my answer to Lew and Mark is only academic due above notices. We have
more important troubles to solve that consider to help or not for to look
relatives. Sorry. Anyway I wish to point my opinion to Lew and other readers
in Jewishgen.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The official answer of Argentine Jewish Society #general

Genealogia Judia Arg. <genarg@...>
 

Dear jewishgeners:
Before to comment the mentioned message, I wish to point that today July 18,
1999, five years ago, our main Kehila was destroyed by a bumb, with 86 died
persons and hundred of injured people.
We are working in to preserving the few records safed >from that destruction,
as our first priority and it is not our guilty to need time to do it,
instead to help unkowed persons that wish to find their relatives free in
Argentine, without knowing the spanish lenguage and without knowing nothing
about our possibilities and economical situation, only cliaming that we are
obliged to work for them, Why?
Dear friends:
I wish to comment now the message >from Lew Norman and Mark Nearenberg, in
Jewishgen about that our Society stopped to help people in the search of
relatives in Argentine.
I don like to polemize and to justify our acts, because we are an
independent Society, conected with the jewish in the world only by
friendship. Anyway, if some one decided to ask our help is privative of us
to accept to help him or not to help, it is the same that some jewish
persons in the world asked us a contribution based in his jewish conditions.
Sometimes we are able to give it, sometimes we can not give any
comtribution. Or to consider that in the past if we were very cooperative we
will continue in that way till infinite?
Why we are not more cooperative:
Perhaps the people helped was not thanks us the help and forgot that behind
they will be other persons asking help. Our Society after a big quantity of
requiring, no so much friendly and very arrogants and imperative, was upset
with these requiring and decided to use their time in better projects.
In the Feldmand case, I found more than 600 Feldman in phone book, it is
imposible to phone all, really the persons that asked it has no sensibility
and did not appreciate the time of the other person...
To offer to pay was an insultive offering, because we are ashkanim, not paid
employers...
Besides there are a lot of lies in the messages issued by several persons
about our missing of help, one example one lady asked to trave her cousin,
she ignored her phone number, our investigator found three possible persons
and only one persons perhaps was the relative, but she did not accepted to
comunicate with the american lady, so american lady was ungry with us and
she putted again other message in jewishgen claiming about us. Our
investigator will send a message to you with full names in order everybody
knows that kind of person...
We received every day a lot of messages so I copy the last ones received
these days:
1)"Hello, How can i get the marrige records of someone married in Buenos
Airies
in the 1950s I only know the brides name.??? thank you so for your help"
2)"I was wondering if you might be able to direct me to someone who could
assist me in my search for a branch of my family - WITKOWSKI - that
emmigrated >from Poland ( possibly via the UK ) before WW II. We know that
they settled in Montevideo. Do you know of anyone in Uruguay who is
interested in Jewish genealogy ? Thanking you in advance for any
information." (Uruguay is other country that Argentine)
3)" Hi everyone: My cousin (3 times removed) was an author named Zussman
Segalowicz (or any
other spelling). I understand that he lived his last years in Argentina.
Have you heard about this Yiddish author?
I'll appreciate any possible information. Thank you."
4) "Dear Mr. Armony, I am looking for members of my father's family who
emigrated to Argentina
from Kartuz Bereza, once Russia now Belarus, at the beginning of this
century. Family surnames include GLAZER, RABINOWITZ, AND JOSEPH. After
all these years my father has told me that his family collected money
each year >from family households and sent it on to family in Argentina.
This was done for many years probably in the l920s and l930s.
I know that there was a group of emigrants >from Kartuz Bereza
in Argentina because they published a Yiskor book in conjunction with
emigrants >from Pruhany and other towns in l958.
I am writing to ask your help in how I can go about finding this group
of immigrants and possibly individual family members in Argentina.
Is there a database I could check besides the telephone directory that
is connected to the Argentine Jewish Genealogy Society. Are there
agencies that can help? Are there also government archives in which
I can check immigration information, etc.?

5) I am also working with the BARG (Bereza Area Research Group) which
is doing research on Kartuz Bereza and which is part of Jewishgen. You
can find us on the specific interest site at Jewishgen under Bereza Area.
There are members of this group who are looking for family in Argentina
and any help you can give me will be passed on to them also.
I look forward to hearing >from you and thank you in advance for your help".
6) Other message: "I am looking for the descendants of the following people,
originally from
Ukraine, emmigrated to Argentina in the 1920s:
Sofia Schenkman born about 1890 married to unknown BROITMAN
children: Maria Broitman married to unknown ROTMAN
Rosita Broitman married to unknown GIMELBERG
Surita Broitman
Benjamin Broitman
If you have any information about this family please contact"
Other message:
7) "Hello Mr.Armony, how are you!
My name is Moshe R.......and I live in Montreal. I had a pleassure of
meeting you in Montreal about two and a half years ago (Winter of 1997) at
a Montreal Jewish Genealogical Society meeting hosted by Stanley Diamond -
its president.
I decided to attend that meeting simply out of curiosity still thinking at
that time that the relatives I was looking for were living somewhere in
United States. About ten days after that meeting took place I received a
letter >from Israel informing me that my relatives were actually in
Argentina (most probably in Buenos Aires).
I would ike now to start looking for them now but unfortuately don't have a
very clear idea of where and how to begin.
Would you be kind enough to lend me some advice on this matter ?
I apologize for being unable to address you in Spanish and thank you very
much in advance for yur help.
I can be reached via email at..."
All above messages were answered given a solution or a guide to hire an
investigator.
Also we received by snail mail several letters asking investigations. Plus
requiring in spanish >from other american countries and Argentine.
In the three years of life of our society we solved more than 100 searches,
but received only three gifts, one chek and two books. The other above of 97
persons considered that we did our obligation to help them and we didn need
their grants...
To do all these searches I worked hard myself, but I am tired....To continue
it we need a big bureau with several persons working, and it is not our
possibilty nor wishes. For these reason we only do the more urgent requiring
and when I must phone 600 persons, (Feldman case) I think I am a fool? or a
stupid ? NO, sorry, I am not so smart but no a fool.
Thanks your time to read it.
Paul Armony
Presidente
Asociacion de Genealogia Judia de Argentina
genarg@infovia.com.ar
Important NOTE: Last week the most important jewish library in the country
was provisory closed due economical problems in our main Kehila (AMIA). They
dismissed this month 20 employers including the library employers and in the
next month other 40 employers will be out.
We offered to help for the maintenance of the library but our offering was
rejected because it was considered as against the employers dismissed.
So my answer to Lew and Mark is only academic due above notices. We have
more important troubles to solve that consider to help or not for to look
relatives. Sorry. Anyway I wish to point my opinion to Lew and other readers
in Jewishgen.