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Re: Alien Registration Cards? #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Alien Registration Cards of today are different >from the Alien
Registration Act of the early 1940's.

The latter was to register all non-US citizens living in the US at that
time, as we were beginning to participate in WWII. I've heard obtaining
these forms can be almost as useful as obtaining citizenship papers..

You can learn more about it, and find where to download the appropriate
form, by searching the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives - it's been
discussed in great deal.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia USA

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Alien Registration Cards? #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Alien Registration Cards of today are different >from the Alien
Registration Act of the early 1940's.

The latter was to register all non-US citizens living in the US at that
time, as we were beginning to participate in WWII. I've heard obtaining
these forms can be almost as useful as obtaining citizenship papers..

You can learn more about it, and find where to download the appropriate
form, by searching the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives - it's been
discussed in great deal.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia USA

MODERATOR NOTE: You can access the Discussion Group Archives at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop>.


Searching MORGENBERG? and HORNUNG? #general

Primpark <primpark@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have a copy of a document, dated 9 August 1940, relating to a member of
my family called Luzor KLAWIR REINHOLD who was alive in the Krakow Ghetto
at this time. Two witnesses confirmed my relation's identity on the
document - the name of one of these people was David MORGENBERG or
possibly MORGENBAUM, while the surname of the other man appears to be
HORNUNG (unfortunately, I am unable to decipher his forename). I would be
extremely interested to hear >from anyone who may have any information
regarding these two people as I would hope that they might be able to
provide some information regarding the fate of my relative. Please respond
privately.

Many thanks,
Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England.
Primpark@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching MORGENBERG? and HORNUNG? #general

Primpark <primpark@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have a copy of a document, dated 9 August 1940, relating to a member of
my family called Luzor KLAWIR REINHOLD who was alive in the Krakow Ghetto
at this time. Two witnesses confirmed my relation's identity on the
document - the name of one of these people was David MORGENBERG or
possibly MORGENBAUM, while the surname of the other man appears to be
HORNUNG (unfortunately, I am unable to decipher his forename). I would be
extremely interested to hear >from anyone who may have any information
regarding these two people as I would hope that they might be able to
provide some information regarding the fate of my relative. Please respond
privately.

Many thanks,
Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England.
Primpark@aol.com


MILIKOVSKY/DINES/SIMON/REICHERSOHN #general

Naomi Strichartz <nrs@...>
 

Searching for:MILIKOVSKY, DINES, DITKOFF, MALAKOFF >from the
Kosova/Slonim/Bialystock region. SIMON or SIMONOVSKY, >from Warsaw area.
REICHERSOHN with middle name, Hakohen, >from Vilnius and WISANSKY,
SMOLINSKY, >from Poland-Russ area. All immigrated to Brooklyn NY between
1897-1915.
Please respond via Genners or nrs@lightlink.com
Thank-you,
Naomi Richardson Strichartz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MILIKOVSKY/DINES/SIMON/REICHERSOHN #general

Naomi Strichartz <nrs@...>
 

Searching for:MILIKOVSKY, DINES, DITKOFF, MALAKOFF >from the
Kosova/Slonim/Bialystock region. SIMON or SIMONOVSKY, >from Warsaw area.
REICHERSOHN with middle name, Hakohen, >from Vilnius and WISANSKY,
SMOLINSKY, >from Poland-Russ area. All immigrated to Brooklyn NY between
1897-1915.
Please respond via Genners or nrs@lightlink.com
Thank-you,
Naomi Richardson Strichartz


Re: jri-pl digest: February 04, 2001 #lodz #poland

Sara K. Scolnick <sara@...>
 

RE: Additional Hamburg passengers on list online
RE: Hamburg passenger List referred to in jri-pl digest: 2/4/01, I was
able to locate 2 names that may have been either ancestors or part of my
distant family. In any case, the ship was bound for New York. Am I to
assume that the ship went directly to New York and these 2 passengers
disembarked there? Is there a possibility that they may have
disembarked elsewhere or continued on to other locations? Also, if they
did disembark in New York, what resources are available to follow the
search? How can I trace this route further? I would appreciate all suggestions.
Sara Kirstein Scolnick
Boston, MA USA


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: February 04, 2001 #lodz #poland

Sara K. Scolnick <sara@...>
 

RE: Additional Hamburg passengers on list online
RE: Hamburg passenger List referred to in jri-pl digest: 2/4/01, I was
able to locate 2 names that may have been either ancestors or part of my
distant family. In any case, the ship was bound for New York. Am I to
assume that the ship went directly to New York and these 2 passengers
disembarked there? Is there a possibility that they may have
disembarked elsewhere or continued on to other locations? Also, if they
did disembark in New York, what resources are available to follow the
search? How can I trace this route further? I would appreciate all suggestions.
Sara Kirstein Scolnick
Boston, MA USA


JewishGen and Community #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

Several weeks ago I was doing some research at the Minnesota History
Center in St. Paul, Minnesota, U.S.A.

I ran into a friend I hadn't seen in a while. A gentile, she was
researching her family's scandinavian history in this area.

While we were talking, I told her what I was doing, that I was reaching
out to many people over the world, and helping them, and in addition being
helped, to locate genealogy information when the researcher couldn't get
to that part of the world. She kind of went, "Oh," like that's a big
deal. And it is.

When we parted company, I went back to my own work, but had a thought run
through my head I wanted to share. What she didn't ask me, and what I
wished she had, is "why?". Why are you all doing this, and how are you
all finding ways to help each other, when you ARE all over the world?"
The answer is simple: community. I say that with a big "C". I can't
tell you all what this has meant, meeting people over the web, getting
help with my research, finding a way to help others. This is a
network we have all over the world. I am so pleased that with our history
we have managed to stay connected like this, and know what it is like to
need help, and be helped, and to help each other and recognize each other
as Jews, no matter where we are. And thank you to the moderators who keep
this thing going, so we can have this community. Thank you!

Lilli Sprintz

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subscribers for making this a real community.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JewishGen and Community #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

Several weeks ago I was doing some research at the Minnesota History
Center in St. Paul, Minnesota, U.S.A.

I ran into a friend I hadn't seen in a while. A gentile, she was
researching her family's scandinavian history in this area.

While we were talking, I told her what I was doing, that I was reaching
out to many people over the world, and helping them, and in addition being
helped, to locate genealogy information when the researcher couldn't get
to that part of the world. She kind of went, "Oh," like that's a big
deal. And it is.

When we parted company, I went back to my own work, but had a thought run
through my head I wanted to share. What she didn't ask me, and what I
wished she had, is "why?". Why are you all doing this, and how are you
all finding ways to help each other, when you ARE all over the world?"
The answer is simple: community. I say that with a big "C". I can't
tell you all what this has meant, meeting people over the web, getting
help with my research, finding a way to help others. This is a
network we have all over the world. I am so pleased that with our history
we have managed to stay connected like this, and know what it is like to
need help, and be helped, and to help each other and recognize each other
as Jews, no matter where we are. And thank you to the moderators who keep
this thing going, so we can have this community. Thank you!

Lilli Sprintz

MODERATOR NOTE: Lilli, you are very welcome. And, thank you and all of our
subscribers for making this a real community.


"vel" #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

I want to once again thank everyone who took the time and trouble to
write to me regarding the use of "vel." For those of you who wrote to
me asking me to share the answer with you, it's easier to do this to the
list than individually.

Basically, "vel" = "also known as" - (it's a Latin term).

This situation seems to be fairly common in some parts of Poland and
Eastern Europe. When it comes to the given name, it's pretty easy to
figure out and to deal with. However, it's not that easy (or so I've
been told) when it comes to surnames. There doesn't seem to be any
rules as to its usage. The surnames may or may not actually be linked
to either parent's surname. So, when there is a "vel" in the surname,
it appears that one will just have to follow both names and see where
they lead.

Thanks to you all, again.

Ricki Randall Zunk
South Florida

P.S. And by the way, VEL actually was a detergent at one time. ;-)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "vel" #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

I want to once again thank everyone who took the time and trouble to
write to me regarding the use of "vel." For those of you who wrote to
me asking me to share the answer with you, it's easier to do this to the
list than individually.

Basically, "vel" = "also known as" - (it's a Latin term).

This situation seems to be fairly common in some parts of Poland and
Eastern Europe. When it comes to the given name, it's pretty easy to
figure out and to deal with. However, it's not that easy (or so I've
been told) when it comes to surnames. There doesn't seem to be any
rules as to its usage. The surnames may or may not actually be linked
to either parent's surname. So, when there is a "vel" in the surname,
it appears that one will just have to follow both names and see where
they lead.

Thanks to you all, again.

Ricki Randall Zunk
South Florida

P.S. And by the way, VEL actually was a detergent at one time. ;-)


Re: Where is Czaiczelic? #general

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

At 11:21 AM 2/5/01 Daniel S. Katz wrote:
Is anyone familiar with the town of Czaiczelic? It's listed
in a 1920 passenger manifest as being in Poland, but everything
in that manifest that is in Ukraine and Russia is also listed
as being in Poland, perhaps because the US didn't recognize the
Russia government at that time?
Poland's borders have suffered dramatic changes during the 20th century.
After WWI, the Red army, busy fighting an internal civil war, was soundly
defeated by the Polish army. In the Peace of Riga (1921) the Soviet Union
recognized Polish sovereignity over much of Lithuania (including Vilna),
western Ruthenia and Wolhynia, and all of Galicia.

In September 1939, Stalin and Hitler divided Poland among themselves. The
Soviet Union recovered all the lost territories (and then some).

Sorry, I don't know about Czaiczelic in particular.

Jake


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Czaiczelic? #general

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

At 11:21 AM 2/5/01 Daniel S. Katz wrote:
Is anyone familiar with the town of Czaiczelic? It's listed
in a 1920 passenger manifest as being in Poland, but everything
in that manifest that is in Ukraine and Russia is also listed
as being in Poland, perhaps because the US didn't recognize the
Russia government at that time?
Poland's borders have suffered dramatic changes during the 20th century.
After WWI, the Red army, busy fighting an internal civil war, was soundly
defeated by the Polish army. In the Peace of Riga (1921) the Soviet Union
recognized Polish sovereignity over much of Lithuania (including Vilna),
western Ruthenia and Wolhynia, and all of Galicia.

In September 1939, Stalin and Hitler divided Poland among themselves. The
Soviet Union recovered all the lost territories (and then some).

Sorry, I don't know about Czaiczelic in particular.

Jake


Yefim (Chaim Gadiel) GOTLIBOVICH #general

haflo <haflo@...>
 

My grandfather's youngest brother, Yefim GOTLIBOVICH was born in Cherkassy,
Kiev on February 19, 1892, attended the secular gymnasium, high school, &
was a professional military man in the Soviet system. He died in Moscow in
1941, possibly during the German attack. I was told he had married, & had 2
daughters - both of whom are probably living under married names now in the
city of Moscow. (My guesstimate is that they would probably be in their
70's now.

If anyone has any suggestions on how to begin a search for these women, I'd
be very grateful.

Sincerely,
Florence Elman
<haflo@cadvision.com>

ELMAN researching: MACHERET - Zolotonosha, Ukraine; PRESSMAN - Dolginov,
Vilenskaya (Vileyka); SURIS/SURES - Odessa, Ukraine; WEISSBEIN/VAJSBEJN -
Odessa, Ukraine; NERENBERG - Socolec, Podolsk, Ukraine;
ZILBERBERG/SILBERBERG - Nova Ushitsa, Podolia, Ukraine;
GOTLIBOVICH/GOTLIBOWITZ/GOTLIEB - Cherkassy, Korsun, Kharkov, &
H/Gorodishche, Ukraine; KATSOVITCH - Minsk & Vileyka


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yefim (Chaim Gadiel) GOTLIBOVICH #general

haflo <haflo@...>
 

My grandfather's youngest brother, Yefim GOTLIBOVICH was born in Cherkassy,
Kiev on February 19, 1892, attended the secular gymnasium, high school, &
was a professional military man in the Soviet system. He died in Moscow in
1941, possibly during the German attack. I was told he had married, & had 2
daughters - both of whom are probably living under married names now in the
city of Moscow. (My guesstimate is that they would probably be in their
70's now.

If anyone has any suggestions on how to begin a search for these women, I'd
be very grateful.

Sincerely,
Florence Elman
<haflo@cadvision.com>

ELMAN researching: MACHERET - Zolotonosha, Ukraine; PRESSMAN - Dolginov,
Vilenskaya (Vileyka); SURIS/SURES - Odessa, Ukraine; WEISSBEIN/VAJSBEJN -
Odessa, Ukraine; NERENBERG - Socolec, Podolsk, Ukraine;
ZILBERBERG/SILBERBERG - Nova Ushitsa, Podolia, Ukraine;
GOTLIBOVICH/GOTLIBOWITZ/GOTLIEB - Cherkassy, Korsun, Kharkov, &
H/Gorodishche, Ukraine; KATSOVITCH - Minsk & Vileyka


Passport #belarus

renee1056@...
 

I have posted my maternal grandmothers passport on viewmate #388. I
would like to thank everyone who has helped me up to this point. I would
appreciate any other assistance >from any one that could translate it for
me.
Shalom
Renee Marcus
Spring Hill, Fl.
Researching ZALMANOV, FRAYERMAN


Belarus SIG #Belarus Passport #belarus

renee1056@...
 

I have posted my maternal grandmothers passport on viewmate #388. I
would like to thank everyone who has helped me up to this point. I would
appreciate any other assistance >from any one that could translate it for
me.
Shalom
Renee Marcus
Spring Hill, Fl.
Researching ZALMANOV, FRAYERMAN


Shalit #lithuania

Harold Rhode <hrhode@...>
 

A few weeks ago, someone contacted me about the Shalit family from
northern Lithuania. I have found data on the family but have misplaced
the name and email address of the person who sent me the message.

Please contact me privately, and I'll pass on the material.

Thanks,

Harold Rhode
hrhode@erols.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Shalit #lithuania

Harold Rhode <hrhode@...>
 

A few weeks ago, someone contacted me about the Shalit family from
northern Lithuania. I have found data on the family but have misplaced
the name and email address of the person who sent me the message.

Please contact me privately, and I'll pass on the material.

Thanks,

Harold Rhode
hrhode@erols.com