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Radomsko, Poland -- Holocaust #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Gloria Berkenstat Freund and Merav Schejtman have just completed an enormous
(and enormously useful) project: transliteration of a list of persons who
perished in the Holocaust in Radomsko, Poland (a town south of Lodz and
north of Czestochowa).

The transliteration, with 2501 listings, is here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Czesto-Rad/RadomskoML.html

My grandfather was born in Radomsko, and much of my family (TELMAN, OFMAN,
KRZEPICKI) lived there >from about 1885 to the Holocaust.

I hope you will find the work of Gloria Berkenstat Freund and Merav
Schejtman to be useful. I note that this list is carefully arranged by
family. In the original order of the list, adjacent persons bearing the
same surname are often members of one family.

This document was given to me by my Radomsko cousin, Berek Ofman. (He
remained in the Radomsko area, and survived the Holocaust.) So far, we have
found no other copy of this document anywhere in the world. We are working
to find out who prepared this document. For members of my family, I have
found it to be completely accurate as far as recording names of family
members.

We have found it quite informative to compare the names in this document to
the 1000+ names listed in the 1918 Radomsko Voters List.

I look forward to hearing >from (and sharing information with) any persons
with family >from the Radomkso area (Radomsko, Plawno, Czestochowa, Zarki,
Przyrow, Zarki, etc.).

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


Looking for Descendants of Yette Leibovici GOLDENBERG & Louis LEIBOWITZ #general

irabin
 

I am trying to locate descendants of Yette Leibovici Goldenberg & Louis
Leibowitz, who immigrated to States >from Falticeni, Romania.

Yette Leibovici Goldenberg immigrated to States around 1913 and between 1934
and 1964 she lived in Richmond which, is probably in Indiana. She moved in
1964 with her sister Clara Leibovici Luk to Florida.
Their address was:
1504 Michigan ave.
Miami Beach Florida
Yette was married to William Goldenberg and had one daughter and two sons:
1. French - born in 1918
2. James
3. Edward
In 1964 she had five grandsons and one granddaughter. Two of these grandsons
have today 50 years.

Clara Leibovici Luk immigrated to States around 1916. She was married to
Harry Luk. Probably, she has no descendants.

Louis Leibowitz immigrated to States in December 01, 1908 as Leser-Wolf
Leibowitz. He had two daughters and two sons. One of his daughters' name was
Frances. Two his sons in low died in 1964.

The parent's name of Louis, Clara & Yette, were Froim Leibovici and Ita
Moscovici Leibovici, and they died in Falticeni, Romania.

Yette was in contact with my mother, Ida Leibovici Rabinovici up to 1964.


Thank you for any suggestions you might be able to provide me,
Israel Rabin
K. Ata, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Radomsko, Poland -- Holocaust #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Gloria Berkenstat Freund and Merav Schejtman have just completed an enormous
(and enormously useful) project: transliteration of a list of persons who
perished in the Holocaust in Radomsko, Poland (a town south of Lodz and
north of Czestochowa).

The transliteration, with 2501 listings, is here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Czesto-Rad/RadomskoML.html

My grandfather was born in Radomsko, and much of my family (TELMAN, OFMAN,
KRZEPICKI) lived there >from about 1885 to the Holocaust.

I hope you will find the work of Gloria Berkenstat Freund and Merav
Schejtman to be useful. I note that this list is carefully arranged by
family. In the original order of the list, adjacent persons bearing the
same surname are often members of one family.

This document was given to me by my Radomsko cousin, Berek Ofman. (He
remained in the Radomsko area, and survived the Holocaust.) So far, we have
found no other copy of this document anywhere in the world. We are working
to find out who prepared this document. For members of my family, I have
found it to be completely accurate as far as recording names of family
members.

We have found it quite informative to compare the names in this document to
the 1000+ names listed in the 1918 Radomsko Voters List.

I look forward to hearing >from (and sharing information with) any persons
with family >from the Radomkso area (Radomsko, Plawno, Czestochowa, Zarki,
Przyrow, Zarki, etc.).

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Descendants of Yette Leibovici GOLDENBERG & Louis LEIBOWITZ #general

irabin
 

I am trying to locate descendants of Yette Leibovici Goldenberg & Louis
Leibowitz, who immigrated to States >from Falticeni, Romania.

Yette Leibovici Goldenberg immigrated to States around 1913 and between 1934
and 1964 she lived in Richmond which, is probably in Indiana. She moved in
1964 with her sister Clara Leibovici Luk to Florida.
Their address was:
1504 Michigan ave.
Miami Beach Florida
Yette was married to William Goldenberg and had one daughter and two sons:
1. French - born in 1918
2. James
3. Edward
In 1964 she had five grandsons and one granddaughter. Two of these grandsons
have today 50 years.

Clara Leibovici Luk immigrated to States around 1916. She was married to
Harry Luk. Probably, she has no descendants.

Louis Leibowitz immigrated to States in December 01, 1908 as Leser-Wolf
Leibowitz. He had two daughters and two sons. One of his daughters' name was
Frances. Two his sons in low died in 1964.

The parent's name of Louis, Clara & Yette, were Froim Leibovici and Ita
Moscovici Leibovici, and they died in Falticeni, Romania.

Yette was in contact with my mother, Ida Leibovici Rabinovici up to 1964.


Thank you for any suggestions you might be able to provide me,
Israel Rabin
K. Ata, Israel


Seeking Polish MONTAG family and descendants #poland #lodz

Alan Glixman
 

Hello all.

My GLIKSMAN family >from Lodz & Pabianice is somehow related to a MONTAG
family >from Poland.

All I know is that in the MONTAG family I am trying to find there are two
girls - Krysia (Krystyna) and Janka who were both born in approx. 1921.
I believe that Krysia is the cousin of Janka.

I do not know what part of Poland they are >from nor exactly how they are
related to my GLIKSMAN family.

I am hoping that someone will recognise these two girls in their family
tree.

Regards

Alan Glixman
Sydney, Australia

Researching:
BROKMAN in Poland; EJDELSZTEJN in Poland; GLIKSMAN in Poland
(Lodz, Pabianice & Warsaw); CHAZAN in Poland; HEYMANN (GEJMAN)
in Poland (Praszka) & Germany (Regensburg); HONIGSTOCK in Poland (Krosno);
KAFTAL in Poland (Lodz); LAPP in Poland; LICHTENSTEIN in Poland & Germany;
MIRTENBAUM in Poland & Canada; MONTAG in Poland;
ZYLBERSZTEJN in Poland;


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Seeking Polish MONTAG family and descendants #lodz #poland

Alan Glixman
 

Hello all.

My GLIKSMAN family >from Lodz & Pabianice is somehow related to a MONTAG
family >from Poland.

All I know is that in the MONTAG family I am trying to find there are two
girls - Krysia (Krystyna) and Janka who were both born in approx. 1921.
I believe that Krysia is the cousin of Janka.

I do not know what part of Poland they are >from nor exactly how they are
related to my GLIKSMAN family.

I am hoping that someone will recognise these two girls in their family
tree.

Regards

Alan Glixman
Sydney, Australia

Researching:
BROKMAN in Poland; EJDELSZTEJN in Poland; GLIKSMAN in Poland
(Lodz, Pabianice & Warsaw); CHAZAN in Poland; HEYMANN (GEJMAN)
in Poland (Praszka) & Germany (Regensburg); HONIGSTOCK in Poland (Krosno);
KAFTAL in Poland (Lodz); LAPP in Poland; LICHTENSTEIN in Poland & Germany;
MIRTENBAUM in Poland & Canada; MONTAG in Poland;
ZYLBERSZTEJN in Poland;


Re: Given Names #general

Rose Elbaum <elbaum@...>
 

I beg to differ with Prof. Esterson. My mother has told me several times
that she lights yahrzeit candles for people >from her town who have no one to
do it for them. Erev Yom Kippur I asked her to tell me for whom she is
lighting candles. One of the people was a male named Buzhi. I asked her
what kind of name that was, and she replied that he was only known as Buzhi.

Rose Elbaum
Potomac, MD

Researching:
BLITZSTEIN, GILDIN >from Trochimbrod, aka Zofyuvka, Ukraine; ROSENFELD, BRATT
from Rafalowka, Manevici, Gorodok, Ukraine; ZAHLER, ROLLER >from Beremyany,
Galicia; BORK, ELBAUM, GORTLER >from Krasnobrod, Poland; SILVERBERG from
Ciechanow, Galicia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Given Names #ukraine

Rose Elbaum <elbaum@...>
 

I beg to differ with Prof. Esterson. My mother has told me several times
that she lights yahrzeit candles for people >from her town who have no one to
do it for them. Erev Yom Kippur I asked her to tell me for whom she is
lighting candles. One of the people was a male named Buzhi. I asked her
what kind of name that was, and she replied that he was only known as Buzhi.

Rose Elbaum
Potomac, MD

Researching:
BLITZSTEIN, GILDIN >from Trochimbrod, aka Zofyuvka, Ukraine; ROSENFELD, BRATT
from Rafalowka, Manevici, Gorodok, Ukraine; ZAHLER, ROLLER >from Beremyany,
Galicia; BORK, ELBAUM, GORTLER >from Krasnobrod, Poland; SILVERBERG from
Ciechanow, Galicia


Re: Help with Russian Regions #ukraine

Rose Elbaum <elbaum@...>
 

Lintz would be the city of Linz in Austria.

Rose Elbaum
Potomac, MD

Researching:
BLITZSTEIN, GILDIN >from Trochimbrod, aka Zofyuvka, Ukraine;
ROSENFELD, BRATT >from Rafalowka, Manevici, Gorodok, Ukraine;
ZAHLER, ROLLER >from Beremyany, Galicia, Ukraine;
BORK, ELBAUM, GORTLER >from Krasnobrod, Poland;
SILVERBERG >from Ciechanow, Galicia.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Help with Russian Regions #ukraine

Rose Elbaum <elbaum@...>
 

Lintz would be the city of Linz in Austria.

Rose Elbaum
Potomac, MD

Researching:
BLITZSTEIN, GILDIN >from Trochimbrod, aka Zofyuvka, Ukraine;
ROSENFELD, BRATT >from Rafalowka, Manevici, Gorodok, Ukraine;
ZAHLER, ROLLER >from Beremyany, Galicia, Ukraine;
BORK, ELBAUM, GORTLER >from Krasnobrod, Poland;
SILVERBERG >from Ciechanow, Galicia.


Yiddish Translation Help #ukraine

Bob Abelman <RCAbelman@...>
 

In 1935, my great-uncle, JUDA KANTER, who lived in Kolomyya, Galicia,
Poland, wrote to my grandfather, MAX KANTER. I believe that this letter

may have been the last one my grandfather received >from his brother. I am
hoping that the letter might contain information about Juda's family, all
of whom but one perished in the Holocaust.

The letter has been uploaded in two parts to Viewmate as VM 1793 and VM
1794 and may be found at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1793.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1794.html

I would most appreciate your help in translating this letter, especially as
to any names, places or events it might describe. Please send responses
directly to me. Thank you very much in advance for any help you can
provide me.

Bob Abelman
Denver, CO
rcabelman@compuserve.com

Researching: ABELMAN/EBELMAN/EIBELMAN: New York, Iasi, Berdichev, Baltic
Region; KANTER/KANTOR/CANTOR: New York/New Jersey/Kansas City,
Nadworna/Kolomyya/Otynya; SCHWARTZ/SILVERMAN: New York, Iasi;
ROSENSTRAUSS/ROTENSTREICH: Nadworna/Kolomyya/Otynya; ROSENZWEIG:
Philadelphia, Iasi; NEUMAN/SEIVER: Boston, Brest-Litovsk;
GOLDZAMD/FREDMAN/GOLDSTEIN: Ozjutyci/Lokachi; PODOSTROJCA/GOLDBERG:
Kartuz-Bereza/Malech


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Yiddish Translation Help #ukraine

Bob Abelman <RCAbelman@...>
 

In 1935, my great-uncle, JUDA KANTER, who lived in Kolomyya, Galicia,
Poland, wrote to my grandfather, MAX KANTER. I believe that this letter

may have been the last one my grandfather received >from his brother. I am
hoping that the letter might contain information about Juda's family, all
of whom but one perished in the Holocaust.

The letter has been uploaded in two parts to Viewmate as VM 1793 and VM
1794 and may be found at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1793.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1794.html

I would most appreciate your help in translating this letter, especially as
to any names, places or events it might describe. Please send responses
directly to me. Thank you very much in advance for any help you can
provide me.

Bob Abelman
Denver, CO
rcabelman@compuserve.com

Researching: ABELMAN/EBELMAN/EIBELMAN: New York, Iasi, Berdichev, Baltic
Region; KANTER/KANTOR/CANTOR: New York/New Jersey/Kansas City,
Nadworna/Kolomyya/Otynya; SCHWARTZ/SILVERMAN: New York, Iasi;
ROSENSTRAUSS/ROTENSTREICH: Nadworna/Kolomyya/Otynya; ROSENZWEIG:
Philadelphia, Iasi; NEUMAN/SEIVER: Boston, Brest-Litovsk;
GOLDZAMD/FREDMAN/GOLDSTEIN: Ozjutyci/Lokachi; PODOSTROJCA/GOLDBERG:
Kartuz-Bereza/Malech


Seeking family information in Chernigov #ukraine

RMSR2@...
 

Hello Everyone: I am new to this listserve. I am seeking information on my
grandparents families in Chernigov, Ukraine. My grandfather Samuel
ROVICKOVICH/RAVICKOVICH [on the ship's manifest it looks like
Bgrovikowitsh???] was born 14 April 1883 in the City of Chernigov - his
father was Hyman/Chaim (Rovickovich?) and his mother was Fay MILIS/MOLIS. He
married a first cousin Esther AZBELL/ASBELL daughter of Jacob AZBELL/ASBELL
and Bella MILIS/MOLIS in 1904. They had a son Lester born 14 January 1905 in
Chernigov. Samuel ROVICKOVICH (uses ROVICK in U.S.) left Liverpool England
in 1906 on the Ivernia and sailed to Boston, Mass (then on to Chicago, IL in
October, 1906). Esther and Lester came to the U.S. in 1907 (according to the
1920 Census Record) and she gave birth to her second child in 1908 in
Chicago, IL. He applied for Social Security Application in 1942 wherein he
lists his parents names and his date of birth. He lists Chernigov under
"City" and Russia as "Country". Is there enough known information to find
records on this family in Chernigov? I have not been able to locate Esther
and Lester's ship information - I do not know what last name she would have
used!
She is said to be >from a family that were bakers. I would appreciate any
directions or assistance >from the list membership. If I am inappropriate in
this e-mail, please forgive my ignorance. Sincerest thanks. Rose Mary S.
RUDY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Seeking family information in Chernigov #ukraine

RMSR2@...
 

Hello Everyone: I am new to this listserve. I am seeking information on my
grandparents families in Chernigov, Ukraine. My grandfather Samuel
ROVICKOVICH/RAVICKOVICH [on the ship's manifest it looks like
Bgrovikowitsh???] was born 14 April 1883 in the City of Chernigov - his
father was Hyman/Chaim (Rovickovich?) and his mother was Fay MILIS/MOLIS. He
married a first cousin Esther AZBELL/ASBELL daughter of Jacob AZBELL/ASBELL
and Bella MILIS/MOLIS in 1904. They had a son Lester born 14 January 1905 in
Chernigov. Samuel ROVICKOVICH (uses ROVICK in U.S.) left Liverpool England
in 1906 on the Ivernia and sailed to Boston, Mass (then on to Chicago, IL in
October, 1906). Esther and Lester came to the U.S. in 1907 (according to the
1920 Census Record) and she gave birth to her second child in 1908 in
Chicago, IL. He applied for Social Security Application in 1942 wherein he
lists his parents names and his date of birth. He lists Chernigov under
"City" and Russia as "Country". Is there enough known information to find
records on this family in Chernigov? I have not been able to locate Esther
and Lester's ship information - I do not know what last name she would have
used!
She is said to be >from a family that were bakers. I would appreciate any
directions or assistance >from the list membership. If I am inappropriate in
this e-mail, please forgive my ignorance. Sincerest thanks. Rose Mary S.
RUDY


Seeking Family of Ola or Laja from Lodz #lodz #poland

Alan Glixman
 

Hello group.

I'm searching for someone but I'm afraid I have very little information to
go on.

I am seeking the family and descendants of Ola (aka Laja) who was the wife
of my grandfather's brother Adolf (Adzio) GLIKSMAN.

Sorry but I don't know Ola / Laja's maiden name. According to the Lodz
Ghetto List she was born 13 June 1886.

She and Adolf lived in Lodz in the 1930s. Ola (Laja) ran a hat shop in
Lodz. Adzio was an engineer. They had no children.

As far as I know they both perished in the Lodz Ghetto.

Ola (Laja) had a nephew (>from her side of the family) who somehow contacted
my grandfather Leon during the war.

I am hoping that the nephew or his family are still alive somewhere and that
they or someone they know will see this email.

The only other information I have that might help identify Ola (Laja) is
that Adzio had 5 siblings, all of whom perished - Mania MIRTENBAUM, Henia
EJDELSZTEJN, Gustawa BROKMAN, Leon GLIKSMAN and Stanislaw GLISKMAN.

With thanks to all


Alan Glixman
Sydney, Australia

Researching:
BROKMAN in Poland; EJDELSZTEJN in Poland; GLIKSMAN in Poland
(Lodz, Pabianice & Warsaw); CHAZAN in Poland; HEYMANN (GEJMAN)
in Poland (Praszka) & Germany (Regensburg); HONIGSTOCK in Poland (Krosno);
KAFTAL in Poland (Lodz); LAPP in Poland; LICHTENSTEIN in Poland & Germany;
MIRTENBAUM in Poland & Canada; MONTAG in Poland;
ZYLBERSZTEJN in Poland;


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Seeking Family of Ola or Laja from Lodz #lodz #poland

Alan Glixman
 

Hello group.

I'm searching for someone but I'm afraid I have very little information to
go on.

I am seeking the family and descendants of Ola (aka Laja) who was the wife
of my grandfather's brother Adolf (Adzio) GLIKSMAN.

Sorry but I don't know Ola / Laja's maiden name. According to the Lodz
Ghetto List she was born 13 June 1886.

She and Adolf lived in Lodz in the 1930s. Ola (Laja) ran a hat shop in
Lodz. Adzio was an engineer. They had no children.

As far as I know they both perished in the Lodz Ghetto.

Ola (Laja) had a nephew (>from her side of the family) who somehow contacted
my grandfather Leon during the war.

I am hoping that the nephew or his family are still alive somewhere and that
they or someone they know will see this email.

The only other information I have that might help identify Ola (Laja) is
that Adzio had 5 siblings, all of whom perished - Mania MIRTENBAUM, Henia
EJDELSZTEJN, Gustawa BROKMAN, Leon GLIKSMAN and Stanislaw GLISKMAN.

With thanks to all


Alan Glixman
Sydney, Australia

Researching:
BROKMAN in Poland; EJDELSZTEJN in Poland; GLIKSMAN in Poland
(Lodz, Pabianice & Warsaw); CHAZAN in Poland; HEYMANN (GEJMAN)
in Poland (Praszka) & Germany (Regensburg); HONIGSTOCK in Poland (Krosno);
KAFTAL in Poland (Lodz); LAPP in Poland; LICHTENSTEIN in Poland & Germany;
MIRTENBAUM in Poland & Canada; MONTAG in Poland;
ZYLBERSZTEJN in Poland;


INTRO: Researching TIEKE et al #germany

Jimmy Stephens <callydude@...>
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 4
months. I am a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy. I live in
California. I consider myself advanced in using a computer. My experience
in using the Internet is intermediate.
I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my ancestors.

My primary research goals now are to find out my relationship to the
family TIEKE. Names and towns that I am researching are:TIEKE, and BRANDS.
from Brandenburg, Germany, and maybe Amsterdam? One man has told me that
TIEKE may be Pommeranian? I also found 2 TIEK without E, in Poland who
were murdered in the Holocaust.

I can trace TIEKES >from Iowa to Ohio, to New York, to Germany, to Denmark,
and several in Scotland (late 1600's?). As far as BRANDS they are in
Germany, Preussen, and Switzerland. Some of the BRANDS were lited as
COHEN-BRANDS. The Mormon family history center does not carry these above
mentioned microfiche in thier local center I would have to order them
through Salt Lake and too many to order at $4.00 each.

Can any other place carry these microfiche? Do Jewish places hold these
records? Would Berlin help? Any ideas welcomed. The info I have is on the
following >from ssi death index, and familysearch.com ...

Father--Cristoph Tieke
Mother--Dorothea Eliesabeth Brands
Son--Carl Philip Tieke
Grandson--Christian Friderich Tieke

When I used the Mormons LDS sites I was directed in
the printouts to the following...

Juden und Dissindenten-Register, 1812-1874 Koniglich,
preubich, Statgericht Berlin, Jewish Records.

Die Judenburgerbucher der Stadt, Berlin 1809-1851 mit
Erganzungen fur die Jahre 1791-1809/ Jacob Jacobson.

Judisch Trauungen in Berlin 1759-1813 mit Erganzungen
fur die Jahre von 1723 bis 1759/ Jacob Jacobson. Thanks.

Jimmy Stephens City?? California mailto:callydude@yahoo.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSig Mr. Stephens. Please note the
signature line above as modified by the moderator and sign future
postings this way. Good luck. Mod 1


German SIG #Germany INTRO: Researching TIEKE et al #germany

Jimmy Stephens <callydude@...>
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 4
months. I am a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy. I live in
California. I consider myself advanced in using a computer. My experience
in using the Internet is intermediate.
I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my ancestors.

My primary research goals now are to find out my relationship to the
family TIEKE. Names and towns that I am researching are:TIEKE, and BRANDS.
from Brandenburg, Germany, and maybe Amsterdam? One man has told me that
TIEKE may be Pommeranian? I also found 2 TIEK without E, in Poland who
were murdered in the Holocaust.

I can trace TIEKES >from Iowa to Ohio, to New York, to Germany, to Denmark,
and several in Scotland (late 1600's?). As far as BRANDS they are in
Germany, Preussen, and Switzerland. Some of the BRANDS were lited as
COHEN-BRANDS. The Mormon family history center does not carry these above
mentioned microfiche in thier local center I would have to order them
through Salt Lake and too many to order at $4.00 each.

Can any other place carry these microfiche? Do Jewish places hold these
records? Would Berlin help? Any ideas welcomed. The info I have is on the
following >from ssi death index, and familysearch.com ...

Father--Cristoph Tieke
Mother--Dorothea Eliesabeth Brands
Son--Carl Philip Tieke
Grandson--Christian Friderich Tieke

When I used the Mormons LDS sites I was directed in
the printouts to the following...

Juden und Dissindenten-Register, 1812-1874 Koniglich,
preubich, Statgericht Berlin, Jewish Records.

Die Judenburgerbucher der Stadt, Berlin 1809-1851 mit
Erganzungen fur die Jahre 1791-1809/ Jacob Jacobson.

Judisch Trauungen in Berlin 1759-1813 mit Erganzungen
fur die Jahre von 1723 bis 1759/ Jacob Jacobson. Thanks.

Jimmy Stephens City?? California mailto:callydude@yahoo.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to GerSig Mr. Stephens. Please note the
signature line above as modified by the moderator and sign future
postings this way. Good luck. Mod 1


Re: Papierhaendler [defined] #germany

Johannes Heidecker <Johannes_Heidecker@...>
 

Dear Jerry Zeisler,
i would guess it is "Papierh=E4ndler" (with =E4 / ae) which means someone
who does commerce with paper. That could be (>from a historic
perspective)
* someone who buys paper >from a factory and sells it, eg. to packaging
industry, newspapers, stores, print shops,
* someone who buys used paper and sells it to paper factories

I would rather not say that this is someone who has a store where he
sells retail, because I do not think that someone would only sell paper.

Such a person would have a "Schreibwarengeschaeft" and also selling
pens, enveloppes, .. and would not necessarily be called "Haendler",
which means dealer.

I mention the used paper buyer, as poor people - and very often Jews -
used to be "Altpapierhaendler", going >from house to house, buying used
paper (old newspapers and other) and then sell it to paper factories who
use this to make new paper.

Johannes Heidecker Bondoufle (France) http://www.chez.com/johannes
ggson of Ludwig Tennenbaum, director of Neusiedler Papierfabrik
(Austria-Hungary)


German SIG #Germany Re: Papierhaendler [defined] #germany

Johannes Heidecker <Johannes_Heidecker@...>
 

Dear Jerry Zeisler,
i would guess it is "Papierh=E4ndler" (with =E4 / ae) which means someone
who does commerce with paper. That could be (>from a historic
perspective)
* someone who buys paper >from a factory and sells it, eg. to packaging
industry, newspapers, stores, print shops,
* someone who buys used paper and sells it to paper factories

I would rather not say that this is someone who has a store where he
sells retail, because I do not think that someone would only sell paper.

Such a person would have a "Schreibwarengeschaeft" and also selling
pens, enveloppes, .. and would not necessarily be called "Haendler",
which means dealer.

I mention the used paper buyer, as poor people - and very often Jews -
used to be "Altpapierhaendler", going >from house to house, buying used
paper (old newspapers and other) and then sell it to paper factories who
use this to make new paper.

Johannes Heidecker Bondoufle (France) http://www.chez.com/johannes
ggson of Ludwig Tennenbaum, director of Neusiedler Papierfabrik
(Austria-Hungary)