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JGSPBCI March 9 Membership Meeting #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Our "welcome mat" is out to snowbirds in our area.
If you are in the neighborhood, stop in.
Guests are always welcome. There is a $5.00 guest fee.

Visit our newly revised website:
www.jgspalmbeachcounty.org

Attention: New format for monthly meetings (March-April-May)
11:30 AM -12:30 PM Special Interest Groups [SIGS]
12:30 PM -1:00 PM Brick Wall Session
1:00 PM -3:00 PM Program, followed by brief business meeting.

Beginning with the March 9th meeting one SIG will be meeting in a classroom at
the South County Civic Center at 11:30 AM, prior to the Brick Wall session and our
regular Program and meeting at 12:30 PM.

The March SIG meeting will be for members researching Belarus, focusing on the
former Russian Empire provinces of Grodno, Minsk, Mogilev and Vitebsk, as well as
in the Lida and Vileika districts of the Vilna gubernia. Please plan to attend so
we may formulate future meetings of the Belarus SIG.
Leader: Marvin Lopatin

On April 13 the Litvak SIG will meet: Area: Kovno and Vilna Gubernii of the
Russian Empire, including much of the territory which is now Lithuania.
Leader: Sylvia Furshman Nusinov

Galicia, Romanian and Hungary SIGs will meet on May 11. Area: Austrian Poland, a
province of the Austro-Hungarian Empire >from 1772 until 1917 - now in southern
Poland and Western Ukraine Leaders: Dr. Marvin Hamburg and Alfred M. Silberfeld

Romania and Hungary SIG Leader: Natalie Hamburg
Area: Moldava, Bessarabia and Bukovina

For additional information or to join a SIG contact Chairman Marvin Lopatin,
maarglo6@aol.com
If you are researching a different area and are interested in forming a SIG please
contact President Dennis Rice:resident at : jgspalmbeach@aol.com
---
Monthly Meeting
Date: March 9, 2005
Place: South County Civic Center,16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach
Time: 11:30 AM -12:30 PM Belarus Special Interest Group
12:30 PM: Registration, Networking and Brick Wall Session
1:00 PM: Program, followed by short business meeting
Program: "Remembering Yiddish Theater and Second Avenue"
Elaine Rudner, Adjunct Instructor at FAU Continuing Education Center, will offer a
retrospective vision of the Immigrant Jewish Life via the Jewish Theatre.

Jacqueline Fineblit, Email Coordinator
jsfine@adelphia.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSPBCI March 9 Membership Meeting #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Our "welcome mat" is out to snowbirds in our area.
If you are in the neighborhood, stop in.
Guests are always welcome. There is a $5.00 guest fee.

Visit our newly revised website:
www.jgspalmbeachcounty.org

Attention: New format for monthly meetings (March-April-May)
11:30 AM -12:30 PM Special Interest Groups [SIGS]
12:30 PM -1:00 PM Brick Wall Session
1:00 PM -3:00 PM Program, followed by brief business meeting.

Beginning with the March 9th meeting one SIG will be meeting in a classroom at
the South County Civic Center at 11:30 AM, prior to the Brick Wall session and our
regular Program and meeting at 12:30 PM.

The March SIG meeting will be for members researching Belarus, focusing on the
former Russian Empire provinces of Grodno, Minsk, Mogilev and Vitebsk, as well as
in the Lida and Vileika districts of the Vilna gubernia. Please plan to attend so
we may formulate future meetings of the Belarus SIG.
Leader: Marvin Lopatin

On April 13 the Litvak SIG will meet: Area: Kovno and Vilna Gubernii of the
Russian Empire, including much of the territory which is now Lithuania.
Leader: Sylvia Furshman Nusinov

Galicia, Romanian and Hungary SIGs will meet on May 11. Area: Austrian Poland, a
province of the Austro-Hungarian Empire >from 1772 until 1917 - now in southern
Poland and Western Ukraine Leaders: Dr. Marvin Hamburg and Alfred M. Silberfeld

Romania and Hungary SIG Leader: Natalie Hamburg
Area: Moldava, Bessarabia and Bukovina

For additional information or to join a SIG contact Chairman Marvin Lopatin,
maarglo6@aol.com
If you are researching a different area and are interested in forming a SIG please
contact President Dennis Rice:resident at : jgspalmbeach@aol.com
---
Monthly Meeting
Date: March 9, 2005
Place: South County Civic Center,16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach
Time: 11:30 AM -12:30 PM Belarus Special Interest Group
12:30 PM: Registration, Networking and Brick Wall Session
1:00 PM: Program, followed by short business meeting
Program: "Remembering Yiddish Theater and Second Avenue"
Elaine Rudner, Adjunct Instructor at FAU Continuing Education Center, will offer a
retrospective vision of the Immigrant Jewish Life via the Jewish Theatre.

Jacqueline Fineblit, Email Coordinator
jsfine@adelphia.net


Hungary-Slovakia Travel Tips? #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Dear All,

I've booked my flights for a very long-awaited three-week trip to
Hungary and Slovakia and would appreciate info and tips about hotels
and archive visits. Based on what I've found on-line, it seems that there are
lots of relatively inexpensive hotels in Budapest, which will be our
point of arrival and departure. We would prefer to avoid a
Marriott-Hilton-Holiday Inn-type facility. What are your suggestions
about reasonably priced non-chain accommodations that are close to the
archives and transit? After several days in Budapest we'll be heading
to Miskolc, Debrecen, Kosice, Michalovce and Sobrance, in far eastern
Slovakia. I've found some hotels but would like to find out which are
your favorites.

We expect to spend a lot of time in libraries, archives and cemeteries
and, of course, do plan to spend some time doing the usual tourist
things. We travel light--one carry-on bag each plus a back pack. We
enjoy taverns and don't require kosher food. It would, however, be
nice to sustain ourselves on something other than potatoes, bread,
cheese, cabbage, salami, and beer while we're in Slovakia.

Please give me your suggestions off-line. I promise to compile
responses and contribute them back to H-SIG in the form of a
shtetl-travelers' guide to Hungary and Slovakia.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Researching families including:
BAL/BERKOVITS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/Orasu Nou, Rom. (Ujvaros,
Hung.); Seini, Rom. (Szinervaralja, Hun), Vamfalu, Hung. (Vama,
Rom.),NYC, Detroit, Israel
GRUNVALD/Bratislava, Michalovce, Humenne, Slov.
KAHN/KAHAN/KOHN/Sighet, Rom.(Maramarossziget, Hun), London
KOHN/Ung megye, Hung.
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Bunkocz, Kosice
(Kassa),Ungvar, Michalovce, Presov, NYC, Cleveland
NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kosice (Kassa), Sabinov(Kis-Szeben),
Kriszti (Kereszt), Slov.
POLACSEK/Sobrance


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungary-Slovakia Travel Tips? #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Dear All,

I've booked my flights for a very long-awaited three-week trip to
Hungary and Slovakia and would appreciate info and tips about hotels
and archive visits. Based on what I've found on-line, it seems that there are
lots of relatively inexpensive hotels in Budapest, which will be our
point of arrival and departure. We would prefer to avoid a
Marriott-Hilton-Holiday Inn-type facility. What are your suggestions
about reasonably priced non-chain accommodations that are close to the
archives and transit? After several days in Budapest we'll be heading
to Miskolc, Debrecen, Kosice, Michalovce and Sobrance, in far eastern
Slovakia. I've found some hotels but would like to find out which are
your favorites.

We expect to spend a lot of time in libraries, archives and cemeteries
and, of course, do plan to spend some time doing the usual tourist
things. We travel light--one carry-on bag each plus a back pack. We
enjoy taverns and don't require kosher food. It would, however, be
nice to sustain ourselves on something other than potatoes, bread,
cheese, cabbage, salami, and beer while we're in Slovakia.

Please give me your suggestions off-line. I promise to compile
responses and contribute them back to H-SIG in the form of a
shtetl-travelers' guide to Hungary and Slovakia.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Researching families including:
BAL/BERKOVITS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/Orasu Nou, Rom. (Ujvaros,
Hung.); Seini, Rom. (Szinervaralja, Hun), Vamfalu, Hung. (Vama,
Rom.),NYC, Detroit, Israel
GRUNVALD/Bratislava, Michalovce, Humenne, Slov.
KAHN/KAHAN/KOHN/Sighet, Rom.(Maramarossziget, Hun), London
KOHN/Ung megye, Hung.
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Bunkocz, Kosice
(Kassa),Ungvar, Michalovce, Presov, NYC, Cleveland
NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kosice (Kassa), Sabinov(Kis-Szeben),
Kriszti (Kereszt), Slov.
POLACSEK/Sobrance


Re: h-sig digest: March 06, 2005 #hungary

Mehadrin@...
 

In a message dated 3/7/05 1:43:27 AM, h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Has any of you come across the name Benedikt Marcus (1753--1828) who was

a Talmud researcher and an important Rabbi in Moravia?

>>

I think you are referring to the famous Rabbi Mordechai Banet, who was also
called Markus benedikt, and was Chief Rabbi of Moravia living in
Mikulov/Nikolsburg.
Rabbi Avrohom Marmorstein
NYC


Translation request-"bugyros #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

In the nineteenth century it was fashionable for women
to wear dresses that were pleated, ruffled, with
trimming of lace or full skirts that were pleated,etc.
The Hungarian national costume skirts are to this day
"bugyros." See
http://wwww.idg.hu/expo/divatcsarnok/divat/node271.html
for a picture of a 19th century dress. It is also used
for a large bag, etc. See also the word "buggyos."
In this connotation of the word "bugyros" I don't see
what is negative about the word as one writer has
suggested. Are we to denigrate large women or those
who were trying to enhance their appearance in the
19th century?
John Kovacs
Bloomfield, Michigan


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: March 06, 2005 #hungary

Mehadrin@...
 

In a message dated 3/7/05 1:43:27 AM, h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Has any of you come across the name Benedikt Marcus (1753--1828) who was

a Talmud researcher and an important Rabbi in Moravia?

>>

I think you are referring to the famous Rabbi Mordechai Banet, who was also
called Markus benedikt, and was Chief Rabbi of Moravia living in
Mikulov/Nikolsburg.
Rabbi Avrohom Marmorstein
NYC


Hungary SIG #Hungary Translation request-"bugyros #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

In the nineteenth century it was fashionable for women
to wear dresses that were pleated, ruffled, with
trimming of lace or full skirts that were pleated,etc.
The Hungarian national costume skirts are to this day
"bugyros." See
http://wwww.idg.hu/expo/divatcsarnok/divat/node271.html
for a picture of a 19th century dress. It is also used
for a large bag, etc. See also the word "buggyos."
In this connotation of the word "bugyros" I don't see
what is negative about the word as one writer has
suggested. Are we to denigrate large women or those
who were trying to enhance their appearance in the
19th century?
John Kovacs
Bloomfield, Michigan


Re: translation request #poland

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Bugyi is underwear. Could it be underwear maker or seller?
Ida
I do not know Hungarian but we have a good dictionary.

Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Neu [mailto:roneu1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:02 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] translation request

Hi,
In the transcription process of the 1848 Census we have run into the
following word as an
occupation:

"bugyros"

There is no question that it is what is writtn.

Haven't found the word in dictionaries.

Any ideas?

Robert


Re: translation request: Bugyros #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

pocket knife, you refer to, is bugylibicska which is a jack/claspknife
and peddler or bag-trading was not a highly respected profession, but I
think many Jews did it.

Best regads
Gabor Hirsch

Eloedfamily@aol.com schrieb:

OK. It answers to the question: What kind?

If you study texts were this word appears in Hungarian, it is
usually (but not always) in a rather negative context, whether
defining a person, or activity or item.

While it is quite hard to translate, it may refer to a much used
pocket knife, or to a person in low social standing, or an old bag -
handbag that is still useful.


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: translation request #hungary

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Bugyi is underwear. Could it be underwear maker or seller?
Ida
I do not know Hungarian but we have a good dictionary.

Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Neu [mailto:roneu1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:02 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] translation request

Hi,
In the transcription process of the 1848 Census we have run into the
following word as an
occupation:

"bugyros"

There is no question that it is what is writtn.

Haven't found the word in dictionaries.

Any ideas?

Robert


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: translation request: Bugyros #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

pocket knife, you refer to, is bugylibicska which is a jack/claspknife
and peddler or bag-trading was not a highly respected profession, but I
think many Jews did it.

Best regads
Gabor Hirsch

Eloedfamily@aol.com schrieb:

OK. It answers to the question: What kind?

If you study texts were this word appears in Hungarian, it is
usually (but not always) in a rather negative context, whether
defining a person, or activity or item.

While it is quite hard to translate, it may refer to a much used
pocket knife, or to a person in low social standing, or an old bag -
handbag that is still useful.


Re: TRANSLATION PLEASE #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

as i read it, it is permission to change surname to LO"VI (which would be a more correct hungarian spelling than the german LOWY):

33368/877 / I.
vezete'k neve'nek "Lo"vi" re ke'rt a'tva'ltoztata'sra engede'lyeztetett
1882 VI/14



....... tom klein, toronto

"B. Frederics" <picturethisfilm@email.com> wrote:

I found a document I believe will confirm my Lowy ancestors name change to
Lory. Would somebody kindly translate the brief notation I posted on
Viewmate #VM5620 which was in the last column of the document.

Many thanks.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: TRANSLATION PLEASE #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

as i read it, it is permission to change surname to LO"VI (which would be a more correct hungarian spelling than the german LOWY):

33368/877 / I.
vezete'k neve'nek "Lo"vi" re ke'rt a'tva'ltoztata'sra engede'lyeztetett
1882 VI/14



....... tom klein, toronto

"B. Frederics" <picturethisfilm@email.com> wrote:

I found a document I believe will confirm my Lowy ancestors name change to
Lory. Would somebody kindly translate the brief notation I posted on
Viewmate #VM5620 which was in the last column of the document.

Many thanks.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com


Re: Looking for information on Benedikt Marcus and Daniel Anna #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Hello Diggers,
I think I was a bit confused in my message below and I learned some new
information since I posted it as follows:

This is all about the Writer Lengyel Laura born 1874 to Pollak Henrik
and Nina Katz in Ujfeherto, Szabolcs County. Laura passed away in 1954.

Laura Married Daniel Miklos and Daniel Anna was or is her daughter.

The missing part in this story, for me, is still how Lengyel Laura is
related to Benedikt Marcus (1753--1828). In Jozsef Bucsko's book "The
Jews of Ujfeherto" (the book is only available in Hungarian and I used
the translated name here), a quote >from Daniel Anna letter suggests that
Benedikt Marcus was Anna's grandfather. But I am not sure.

Does anyone know more about Lengyel Laura and her ancestors? It is
believed that Laura's mother, Nina Katz, is related to my Katz family.
However I am still unable to find any supporting evidence that this is
indeed the case.

Thank you,
Isaac Katz
Beit-Hanania
Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Katz, Itzik [mailto:Itzik.Katz@kla-tencor.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:58 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Looking for information on Benedikt Marcus and Daniel
Anna

Dear Siggers,

Has any of you come across the name Benedikt Marcus (1753--1828) who was
a Talmud researcher and an important Rabbi in Moravia?

There is a potential connection between my Katz family and this Benedikt
Marcus through his wife whose name was Katz Nina.

Also, has anyone heard of a Hungarian writer by the name of Daniel Anna
(aka Kerekgyarto Jansen)? Anna might be related to Benedikt Marcus and
Katz Nina.

I know this is an ill-defined question but should you be able to help it
will be highly appreciated.

Thank you,
Isaac Katz
Beit-Hanania
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Looking for information on Benedikt Marcus and Daniel Anna #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Hello Diggers,
I think I was a bit confused in my message below and I learned some new
information since I posted it as follows:

This is all about the Writer Lengyel Laura born 1874 to Pollak Henrik
and Nina Katz in Ujfeherto, Szabolcs County. Laura passed away in 1954.

Laura Married Daniel Miklos and Daniel Anna was or is her daughter.

The missing part in this story, for me, is still how Lengyel Laura is
related to Benedikt Marcus (1753--1828). In Jozsef Bucsko's book "The
Jews of Ujfeherto" (the book is only available in Hungarian and I used
the translated name here), a quote >from Daniel Anna letter suggests that
Benedikt Marcus was Anna's grandfather. But I am not sure.

Does anyone know more about Lengyel Laura and her ancestors? It is
believed that Laura's mother, Nina Katz, is related to my Katz family.
However I am still unable to find any supporting evidence that this is
indeed the case.

Thank you,
Isaac Katz
Beit-Hanania
Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Katz, Itzik [mailto:Itzik.Katz@kla-tencor.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:58 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Looking for information on Benedikt Marcus and Daniel
Anna

Dear Siggers,

Has any of you come across the name Benedikt Marcus (1753--1828) who was
a Talmud researcher and an important Rabbi in Moravia?

There is a potential connection between my Katz family and this Benedikt
Marcus through his wife whose name was Katz Nina.

Also, has anyone heard of a Hungarian writer by the name of Daniel Anna
(aka Kerekgyarto Jansen)? Anna might be related to Benedikt Marcus and
Katz Nina.

I know this is an ill-defined question but should you be able to help it
will be highly appreciated.

Thank you,
Isaac Katz
Beit-Hanania
Israel


Thanks, Dave, from a newby #belarus

Irene Salazar
 

Thanks Dave,

And I only just found this group! I know what work it must be... and only
hope I can find some info. Thanks again and enjoy life.

Irene in MD


Belarus SIG #Belarus Thanks, Dave, from a newby #belarus

Irene Salazar
 

Thanks Dave,

And I only just found this group! I know what work it must be... and only
hope I can find some info. Thanks again and enjoy life.

Irene in MD


Re: Sig coordinator #belarus

Evelyn Waldstein
 

Dear Dave and Fellow Genners,
I do not have words to express how sorry I am that Belarus SIG lost David
Fox as its well known long time coordinator.
I was born in Latvia with deep roots in this part of the world but starting
to search seriously what I regard as my family I realized soon that I have
to look over the borders. Vitebsk was the first place I stumbled on. As the
result Belarus SIG was the first discussion group I joined as a member.
During these years I watched, learned and enjoyed the work of David and his
SIG. I still hope that under certain conditions his decision may be
reversible or, at least, he is going to stay with us as honorable SIG leader
to help the person who is going to take over his job.
Evelyn Waldstein
mailto:evewa@post.tau.ac.il


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Sig coordinator #belarus

Evelyn Waldstein
 

Dear Dave and Fellow Genners,
I do not have words to express how sorry I am that Belarus SIG lost David
Fox as its well known long time coordinator.
I was born in Latvia with deep roots in this part of the world but starting
to search seriously what I regard as my family I realized soon that I have
to look over the borders. Vitebsk was the first place I stumbled on. As the
result Belarus SIG was the first discussion group I joined as a member.
During these years I watched, learned and enjoyed the work of David and his
SIG. I still hope that under certain conditions his decision may be
reversible or, at least, he is going to stay with us as honorable SIG leader
to help the person who is going to take over his job.
Evelyn Waldstein
mailto:evewa@post.tau.ac.il