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Re: Trip to Hungary #hungary

Margarita Lacko <mishpologia@...>
 

Hi Judy,

In Abaujszanto, my relatives (BLAU, LOW) were very religious and their
tombstones are all in Hebrew. I don't remember about the rest of the
tombstones.

In Gyongyos, although I didn't find my relatives (FISCHER, HEBER,
HANOFER/HANNOVER) some stones are in Hebrew but the names are in Latin
characters. Most of the stones were in Hungarian.


Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
(JGFF researcher # 11453)
GENEALOGY: © <mailto:mishpologia@uzidog.com>
<mailto:uzidog2000@yahoo.com>
 



-----Original Message-----
From: JGyori@aol.com [mailto:JGyori@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 23:37
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Trip to Hungary


Dear Group,
I was wondering if anyone has traveled to Miskolc, Eger or any
of the small
surrounding towns to do any research? Does anyone know if the
tombstones are
all going to be in Hebrew only? In the JewishGen cemetery
database, there's
Hungarian in the registers but I don't know about the stones. I
don't read
Hebrew.

Are the archives accessible without prior permission?
I am going at the end of June, so there's still time to contact them.

Thank you for your help,
Judi Gyori Missel
Mesa, Arizona

Searching: WEBERMAN, KLEIN, SCHWARCZ, DEUTS/DEUTCH, BRAUN,
SCHONSTEIN,
ROZENBAUM, ZIMERMAN all >from the small towns around Eger -
Maklar, Kerescsend,
Mezokeresztes, Dormand, Abuajszanto, Szina.
SPITZER, SCHWED, GRUNBERGER, GYARFAS >from Satorajauljhely and Budapest
HIRSCHFELD, GYORI, SINGER >from Gyor, Bratislavia


Passport to Life (Film Showing at CJH) #hungary

Robert Friedman <rfriedman@...>
 

The YIVO Institute for Jewish Research (www.yivoinstitute.org/index.htm) =
is celebrating its 80th anniversary with several public programs. Among =
them is a film that should be of interest to H-SIG members:

Tues. April 12, 7 p.m., Passport to Life (2003)

Center for Jewish History
15 W. 16th Street
New York, NY 10011
www.cjh.org

Sponsored by the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research, in collaboration =
with the Hungarian Consulate. Discussion with filmmaker, Agnes Vertes, =
a member of the diplomatic corps, and an academic representative. =
Winner of the 2003 Telly & Aurora Awards (Canada). This 56-minute =
documentary celebrates the work of six non-Jewish diplomats who saved =
numerous Jews while stationed in Budapest >from 1944 to 1945.

For prices and tickets, please call the CJH Box Office at (917) =
606-8200.

Bob Friedman
Director, CJH Genealogy Institute


Tombs in Hebrew #hungary

Georges Graner
 

You wrote:


>Dear Group,
>I was wondering if anyone has traveled to Miskolc, Eger or any of the small
>surrounding towns to do any research? Does anyone know if the tombstones are
>all going to be in Hebrew only? In the JewishGen cemetery database, there's
>Hungarian in the registers but I don't know about the stones. I don't read
>Hebrew.
>
>Judi Gyori Missel
>Mesa, Arizona


My answer:
At Szendrö, a small city 20 km N of Miskolc, all tombsyones are wtitten in
Hebrew.

Georges GRANER (Paris, France)
georges.graner@wanadoo.fr
Webmaster of Cercle de Généalogie Juive www.genealoj.org


Re: Braunstein in Buenos Aires #general

ac <anitac47@...>
 

This has just been a discussion. There is a good website
for international directories http://www.infobel.com

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Trip to Hungary #hungary

Margarita Lacko <mishpologia@...>
 

Hi Judy,

In Abaujszanto, my relatives (BLAU, LOW) were very religious and their
tombstones are all in Hebrew. I don't remember about the rest of the
tombstones.

In Gyongyos, although I didn't find my relatives (FISCHER, HEBER,
HANOFER/HANNOVER) some stones are in Hebrew but the names are in Latin
characters. Most of the stones were in Hungarian.


Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
(JGFF researcher # 11453)
GENEALOGY: © <mailto:mishpologia@uzidog.com>
<mailto:uzidog2000@yahoo.com>
 



-----Original Message-----
From: JGyori@aol.com [mailto:JGyori@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 23:37
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Trip to Hungary


Dear Group,
I was wondering if anyone has traveled to Miskolc, Eger or any
of the small
surrounding towns to do any research? Does anyone know if the
tombstones are
all going to be in Hebrew only? In the JewishGen cemetery
database, there's
Hungarian in the registers but I don't know about the stones. I
don't read
Hebrew.

Are the archives accessible without prior permission?
I am going at the end of June, so there's still time to contact them.

Thank you for your help,
Judi Gyori Missel
Mesa, Arizona

Searching: WEBERMAN, KLEIN, SCHWARCZ, DEUTS/DEUTCH, BRAUN,
SCHONSTEIN,
ROZENBAUM, ZIMERMAN all >from the small towns around Eger -
Maklar, Kerescsend,
Mezokeresztes, Dormand, Abuajszanto, Szina.
SPITZER, SCHWED, GRUNBERGER, GYARFAS >from Satorajauljhely and Budapest
HIRSCHFELD, GYORI, SINGER >from Gyor, Bratislavia


Hungary SIG #Hungary Passport to Life (Film Showing at CJH) #hungary

Robert Friedman <rfriedman@...>
 

The YIVO Institute for Jewish Research (www.yivoinstitute.org/index.htm) =
is celebrating its 80th anniversary with several public programs. Among =
them is a film that should be of interest to H-SIG members:

Tues. April 12, 7 p.m., Passport to Life (2003)

Center for Jewish History
15 W. 16th Street
New York, NY 10011
www.cjh.org

Sponsored by the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research, in collaboration =
with the Hungarian Consulate. Discussion with filmmaker, Agnes Vertes, =
a member of the diplomatic corps, and an academic representative. =
Winner of the 2003 Telly & Aurora Awards (Canada). This 56-minute =
documentary celebrates the work of six non-Jewish diplomats who saved =
numerous Jews while stationed in Budapest >from 1944 to 1945.

For prices and tickets, please call the CJH Box Office at (917) =
606-8200.

Bob Friedman
Director, CJH Genealogy Institute


Hungary SIG #Hungary Tombs in Hebrew #hungary

Georges Graner
 

You wrote:


>Dear Group,
>I was wondering if anyone has traveled to Miskolc, Eger or any of the small
>surrounding towns to do any research? Does anyone know if the tombstones are
>all going to be in Hebrew only? In the JewishGen cemetery database, there's
>Hungarian in the registers but I don't know about the stones. I don't read
>Hebrew.
>
>Judi Gyori Missel
>Mesa, Arizona


My answer:
At Szendrö, a small city 20 km N of Miskolc, all tombsyones are wtitten in
Hebrew.

Georges GRANER (Paris, France)
georges.graner@wanadoo.fr
Webmaster of Cercle de Généalogie Juive www.genealoj.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Braunstein in Buenos Aires #general

ac <anitac47@...>
 

This has just been a discussion. There is a good website
for international directories http://www.infobel.com

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


19th Century Dress #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Lynn Saul wants to view "bugyros" type 19th century
dresses on the internet. Go to Google,type in
"bugyros" and click on "Magyar Pavilon."

John Kovacs
Bloomfield, Michigan

Searching Perlgrund >from Obuda (Altofen) Halasz,
Gyongyos;
Bauer >from Budapest, Eger;

Muhlhoffer >from Miskolc, Onod, Tornala (Tornaalja);

Searching family connections for Kohn: Kohn Sandor,
Nagyvarad, Miskolc 1882-1944; Sandor's father David
1845-1920 Debrecen, Nagyvarad;

David's father Kohn Mayer 1804-1892 Debrecen,
Nagyvarad and JERUSALEM as of 1876.

Where can I obtain any information, i.e.
registration,burial,etc. about Kohn Mayer in Jerusalem
around 1876-1892?


Searching Descendants of Kovacs Aladar of Budapest #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

I would like to get in contact with descendents of
Kovacs Aladar, formerly Kohn of Budapest. He was
born in Nagyvarad or Debrecen in the late 19th
Century. He had a business ( "gepjavito" machine
repair, e.g. bicycles) in the 1930s in Budapest. His
brother's name was Kohn Sandor. He adopted Sandor's
three sons, Miklos, Geza and Imre, in the 1920s so
they could change their names >from Kohn to Kovacs.

John Kovacs
Bloomfield, Michigan,


Hungary SIG #Hungary 19th Century Dress #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Lynn Saul wants to view "bugyros" type 19th century
dresses on the internet. Go to Google,type in
"bugyros" and click on "Magyar Pavilon."

John Kovacs
Bloomfield, Michigan

Searching Perlgrund >from Obuda (Altofen) Halasz,
Gyongyos;
Bauer >from Budapest, Eger;

Muhlhoffer >from Miskolc, Onod, Tornala (Tornaalja);

Searching family connections for Kohn: Kohn Sandor,
Nagyvarad, Miskolc 1882-1944; Sandor's father David
1845-1920 Debrecen, Nagyvarad;

David's father Kohn Mayer 1804-1892 Debrecen,
Nagyvarad and JERUSALEM as of 1876.

Where can I obtain any information, i.e.
registration,burial,etc. about Kohn Mayer in Jerusalem
around 1876-1892?


Hungary SIG #Hungary Searching Descendants of Kovacs Aladar of Budapest #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

I would like to get in contact with descendents of
Kovacs Aladar, formerly Kohn of Budapest. He was
born in Nagyvarad or Debrecen in the late 19th
Century. He had a business ( "gepjavito" machine
repair, e.g. bicycles) in the 1930s in Budapest. His
brother's name was Kohn Sandor. He adopted Sandor's
three sons, Miklos, Geza and Imre, in the 1920s so
they could change their names >from Kohn to Kovacs.

John Kovacs
Bloomfield, Michigan,


GILDENHORN from Ohio #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

I'm looking for any informatino on a Rose and Isadore GILDENHORN
from Ohio. Rose died in 1995 at the age of 97, a widow, and her
maiden name was BORDOWITZ (my grandmother's maiden name).

Since he is the only other GILDENHORN I've found >from Ohio,
I assume her husband was Isadore GILDENHORN, who died in Cleveland Hts,
Cuyahoga County, Ohio in 1974 at the age of 86.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
meyers01@comcast.net

Marty


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GILDENHORN from Ohio #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

I'm looking for any informatino on a Rose and Isadore GILDENHORN
from Ohio. Rose died in 1995 at the age of 97, a widow, and her
maiden name was BORDOWITZ (my grandmother's maiden name).

Since he is the only other GILDENHORN I've found >from Ohio,
I assume her husband was Isadore GILDENHORN, who died in Cleveland Hts,
Cuyahoga County, Ohio in 1974 at the age of 86.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
meyers01@comcast.net

Marty


Re; Vitebsk family, CHAMARMER/POLIKOFF #belarus

Asp116@...
 

looking for Israel CHAMARMER who came >from Vitebsk before 1904 and changed
name to HarryPOLIKOFF. lived on Cherry St in N,Y.
Sheila Rosenfeld Pianin
New York, N.Y.
reply to: asp116@aol.com


family of Sorke CHAMARMER of Vitebsk #belarus

Asp116@...
 

looking for Sara?Sorke CHAMARMER , came in 1912 to Brooklyn, married Leon
BLOCK , had 4 children.
Sheila Rosenfeld Pianin
New York, N.Y.
reply to : asp116@aol.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re; Vitebsk family, CHAMARMER/POLIKOFF #belarus

Asp116@...
 

looking for Israel CHAMARMER who came >from Vitebsk before 1904 and changed
name to HarryPOLIKOFF. lived on Cherry St in N,Y.
Sheila Rosenfeld Pianin
New York, N.Y.
reply to: asp116@aol.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus family of Sorke CHAMARMER of Vitebsk #belarus

Asp116@...
 

looking for Sara?Sorke CHAMARMER , came in 1912 to Brooklyn, married Leon
BLOCK , had 4 children.
Sheila Rosenfeld Pianin
New York, N.Y.
reply to : asp116@aol.com


Re: Genealogy and Mixed Marriage #general

Dream Builder <dreambuilder@...>
 

Perhaps for those so inclined to keep their family tree limited to only
those who are Jewish, two trees could be constructed - one that includes
only to those who are known to be Jewish and a second that is complete with
non-Jewish relatives, adopted children, step-children, etc. Notes could be
included in the former to refer to the latter where appropriate. In the case
of unmarried couples living together, the unrelated person is usually only
listed when they have children together, although they may be listed
with appropriate notes when desired.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Ball Ground, GA, USA
dreambuilder@tds.net

Researching: BECK, CHORNEY, DUBIN(SKY), FRIEDMAN, RECHMAN, SK(O)LOFF,
THURLIN / TURCHIN, ZEIDELMAN (all >from Russia to USA 1880-1910)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Rabinowitz" <annrab@bellsouth.net>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Genealogy and Mixed Marriage

In a message dated 2/1/2005 10:57:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
balden@zahav.net.il writes:
< The topic "Genealogy and mixed Marriage" has cropped up in my circle, and
although I personally have my own views, I would like to hear the views of
professional Genealogists on this. Is it fair to exclude a member of one's
family
from a family tree due to intermarriage? >
This is an interesting question which I will respond to in terms of my own
research >from many years ago. I was researching Colonial Jewish families
and used Rabbi Malcolm H. Stern's book "First American Jewish Families" as a
resource. Unfortunately, Rabbi Stern did not believe in the inclusion of
non-Jewish descendants and therefore left them out.

While I understood his reason for this and respect it, it was annoying as I
was unable to connect a number of people to their appropriate family trees.
Some of these non-Jews had descendants who eventually married Jews once
again as it so happens in our multi-ethnic society and they wanted to know
about that earlier ancestry.

I hope that those who feel as Rabbi Stern did realize that while your tree
is your own business to construct as you wish, limiting it to Jews only
withholds your heritage >from those who may want to share it despite the fact
that they may not be halachicly Jewish.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Genealogy and Mixed Marriage #general

Dream Builder <dreambuilder@...>
 

Perhaps for those so inclined to keep their family tree limited to only
those who are Jewish, two trees could be constructed - one that includes
only to those who are known to be Jewish and a second that is complete with
non-Jewish relatives, adopted children, step-children, etc. Notes could be
included in the former to refer to the latter where appropriate. In the case
of unmarried couples living together, the unrelated person is usually only
listed when they have children together, although they may be listed
with appropriate notes when desired.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Ball Ground, GA, USA
dreambuilder@tds.net

Researching: BECK, CHORNEY, DUBIN(SKY), FRIEDMAN, RECHMAN, SK(O)LOFF,
THURLIN / TURCHIN, ZEIDELMAN (all >from Russia to USA 1880-1910)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Rabinowitz" <annrab@bellsouth.net>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Genealogy and Mixed Marriage

In a message dated 2/1/2005 10:57:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
balden@zahav.net.il writes:
< The topic "Genealogy and mixed Marriage" has cropped up in my circle, and
although I personally have my own views, I would like to hear the views of
professional Genealogists on this. Is it fair to exclude a member of one's
family
from a family tree due to intermarriage? >
This is an interesting question which I will respond to in terms of my own
research >from many years ago. I was researching Colonial Jewish families
and used Rabbi Malcolm H. Stern's book "First American Jewish Families" as a
resource. Unfortunately, Rabbi Stern did not believe in the inclusion of
non-Jewish descendants and therefore left them out.

While I understood his reason for this and respect it, it was annoying as I
was unable to connect a number of people to their appropriate family trees.
Some of these non-Jews had descendants who eventually married Jews once
again as it so happens in our multi-ethnic society and they wanted to know
about that earlier ancestry.

I hope that those who feel as Rabbi Stern did realize that while your tree
is your own business to construct as you wish, limiting it to Jews only
withholds your heritage >from those who may want to share it despite the fact
that they may not be halachicly Jewish.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net