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New World Jews #general

Rhonda Grace <gracefamilyschool@...>
 

Soon after the Jews were kicked out of Spain they went to the New World,
where the Jesuits followed shortly after. There are Catholic churches in
Chihuahua, Mexico that have plaques and records of how many Jews were killed
in the Mexican Inquisition. Many of the churches have museums with displayed
torture devices. The last recorded burnings were about 1890. Many of the
Jews escaped to the northern areas of Mexico, now California, New Mexico and
Arizona, and the Monterey area of Mexico, some to Jamaica and Cuba. It is a
little known fact that the Jesuits went to Mexico and killed Jews before
establishing the California Missions. This might explain the coins in
Western North America.

Why Columbus? Who knows? Eventually the Jewish community there
grew over time. If Jews were in Columbus in 1840, which was barely a
village then, then Jews could have been anywhere, again, not as a
separate community, but as individuals escaping conscription or
persecution or simply trying to start a new life.

So couldn't these coins have come >from anywhere, >from someone who
collected relics or retained items handed down in their family for
generations and they simply carried them to America when they came here?
I guess I'm missing the draw toward the complex assumption of the
establishment of an isolated American Jewish community manufacturing Bar
Kochva coins when a perfectly simple explanation could suffice.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New World Jews #general

Rhonda Grace <gracefamilyschool@...>
 

Soon after the Jews were kicked out of Spain they went to the New World,
where the Jesuits followed shortly after. There are Catholic churches in
Chihuahua, Mexico that have plaques and records of how many Jews were killed
in the Mexican Inquisition. Many of the churches have museums with displayed
torture devices. The last recorded burnings were about 1890. Many of the
Jews escaped to the northern areas of Mexico, now California, New Mexico and
Arizona, and the Monterey area of Mexico, some to Jamaica and Cuba. It is a
little known fact that the Jesuits went to Mexico and killed Jews before
establishing the California Missions. This might explain the coins in
Western North America.

Why Columbus? Who knows? Eventually the Jewish community there
grew over time. If Jews were in Columbus in 1840, which was barely a
village then, then Jews could have been anywhere, again, not as a
separate community, but as individuals escaping conscription or
persecution or simply trying to start a new life.

So couldn't these coins have come >from anywhere, >from someone who
collected relics or retained items handed down in their family for
generations and they simply carried them to America when they came here?
I guess I'm missing the draw toward the complex assumption of the
establishment of an isolated American Jewish community manufacturing Bar
Kochva coins when a perfectly simple explanation could suffice.


KOLUMBUS Family Info. #general

Jack Kolumbus <jackkol@...>
 

I was raised in a Christian family. However, in researching the KOLUMBUS
family name, the only records that I have found are of Jewish families from
Russia or Lithuania. Since Kolumbus is a unique last name, I find it very
reasonable to assume that my family has Jewish roots. My grandfather came
from Stara Bysrica in Slovakia. If anyone has "any" knowledge of families
with the last name of Kolumbus (or variations in the spelling), please
contact me. I am trying to leave a family history for my grandchildren.

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Jack Kolumbus
jackkol@indy.net

MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget
to list your surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/.

Also, the JewishGen Family Finder lists a number of researchers working on
different speelings of KOLUMBUS/COLOMBUS/COLUMBUS.
You should try to contact them and find more about their research.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KOLUMBUS Family Info. #general

Jack Kolumbus <jackkol@...>
 

I was raised in a Christian family. However, in researching the KOLUMBUS
family name, the only records that I have found are of Jewish families from
Russia or Lithuania. Since Kolumbus is a unique last name, I find it very
reasonable to assume that my family has Jewish roots. My grandfather came
from Stara Bysrica in Slovakia. If anyone has "any" knowledge of families
with the last name of Kolumbus (or variations in the spelling), please
contact me. I am trying to leave a family history for my grandchildren.

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Jack Kolumbus
jackkol@indy.net

MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget
to list your surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/.

Also, the JewishGen Family Finder lists a number of researchers working on
different speelings of KOLUMBUS/COLOMBUS/COLUMBUS.
You should try to contact them and find more about their research.


canadian census help #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

I believe my SHULMAN relatives should be listed on the 1911 Canadian census
now online as living in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. Is there a way to find
them without trolling through hundreds of pdf files? They arrived in 1910.

Steven Weiss
Chicago


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen canadian census help #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

I believe my SHULMAN relatives should be listed on the 1911 Canadian census
now online as living in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. Is there a way to find
them without trolling through hundreds of pdf files? They arrived in 1910.

Steven Weiss
Chicago


Seeking location of Jatyn/Jahotin in Russia/Poland #general

Deb(orah) Cohen Skolnik
 

My maternal grandmother, older brother and his family
are listed on the Ellis Island immigration records as
having come >from Jatyn/Jahotin in Russia (in
1902/1903). I haven't been successful in figuring out
where that was (or is).

If anyone out there can help with direct knowledge, or
point me towards a resource that might help, I'd be
very grateful. Thanks!

Debbie Cohen Skolnik

Searching:

LANDY, LANDE, LONDIN -- Bialystok-Chicago (Tilly Landy)
GARBARSH, GARBAR, GERBER -- Ostrow - Chicago (Jacob Gerber)
SOLUTUSZKYN -- ??Jatyn (on Ellis Island Records)-Brooklyn, NY
Peshe (Bessie) Solutuszkyn Cohen
KISSIN -- Kiev-Brooklyn, NY became Barney or Barnet
Cohen at some point

MODERATOR NOTE: Try the ShtetlSeeker database to help
find Jatyn/Jahotin. The town search is available at
< ttp://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm .


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking location of Jatyn/Jahotin in Russia/Poland #general

Deb(orah) Cohen Skolnik
 

My maternal grandmother, older brother and his family
are listed on the Ellis Island immigration records as
having come >from Jatyn/Jahotin in Russia (in
1902/1903). I haven't been successful in figuring out
where that was (or is).

If anyone out there can help with direct knowledge, or
point me towards a resource that might help, I'd be
very grateful. Thanks!

Debbie Cohen Skolnik

Searching:

LANDY, LANDE, LONDIN -- Bialystok-Chicago (Tilly Landy)
GARBARSH, GARBAR, GERBER -- Ostrow - Chicago (Jacob Gerber)
SOLUTUSZKYN -- ??Jatyn (on Ellis Island Records)-Brooklyn, NY
Peshe (Bessie) Solutuszkyn Cohen
KISSIN -- Kiev-Brooklyn, NY became Barney or Barnet
Cohen at some point

MODERATOR NOTE: Try the ShtetlSeeker database to help
find Jatyn/Jahotin. The town search is available at
< ttp://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm .


Re: 1926-7 Polish Business Directory Versus the 1929 Polish B.D. #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Jacob Rosen wrote

I believe that Logan Kleinwachs should be
congratulated for the tremendous effort by making this
directory available to us.
Though smaller than the 1929 Polish Business Directory
it enables an interesting comparison of the businesses
in every location in amatter of 3 years.
I myself research the KOENIGSBUCH family >from Brzesko
(image 209 in the Directory) and managed to locate
Koenigsbuchs in the 1926 version who were not there
anymore in 1929 and vice versa. Now I have the
questions which will lead me hopefully to some
answers.
Jerusalem
I'd like to join Jacob Rosen in expressing my appreciation for Logan's
efforts and his skills.
Way to go, Logan!

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1926-7 Polish Business Directory Versus the 1929 Polish B.D. #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Jacob Rosen wrote

I believe that Logan Kleinwachs should be
congratulated for the tremendous effort by making this
directory available to us.
Though smaller than the 1929 Polish Business Directory
it enables an interesting comparison of the businesses
in every location in amatter of 3 years.
I myself research the KOENIGSBUCH family >from Brzesko
(image 209 in the Directory) and managed to locate
Koenigsbuchs in the 1926 version who were not there
anymore in 1929 and vice versa. Now I have the
questions which will lead me hopefully to some
answers.
Jerusalem
I'd like to join Jacob Rosen in expressing my appreciation for Logan's
efforts and his skills.
Way to go, Logan!

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Re: 1911 Canadian Census is now on-line! #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"jan meisels allen" < janmallen@worldnet.att.net > wrote :

Dear Jewish Genners:

The Canadian 1911 Census which has been the focus of a long legislative
battle is now on-line and accessible! It may be viewed at:

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html


Legislation enacted only a few weeks ago -S-18 --released the 1911 census
and the censuses that follow through 2001 (each census will be released 92
years after it was taken).

A great accomplishment in a few weeks, so kudos to Ian E. Wilson, Librarian
and Archivist of Canada, and the staff at Library and Archives Canada for
their hard work in putting these valuable records online sooner than was
expected.

For those with Canadian ancestry, enjoy the census!!
What was the previous situation and what was the argument for the change?


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Rosie (FREINDLICH) and Moses SAMLAN #romania

Arnold Samlan
 

With the help of the JGS of Montreal, I recently located the grave of my
great grandmother Rosie (FREINDLICH) SAMLAN, who died March 21, 1915 and in
buried in Back River Cemetery there. It is possible that she was >from Romania.

She left one son, Abraham (my grandfather), born in February 1895. He
claimed to be born in Montreal, although we have no birth record to confirm that.

I am trying to locate any information about Rosie's life, including and
especially Canadian/Quebec immigration information. I'm also trying to locate any
Romanian documents or records that might shed some light on the life of her
husband, Moses, about whom we know only that he was born in Romania,
supposedly died in a war -- family legend has it as the Spanish-American War. We have
no burial information.

Any information, leads or ideas appreciated.

Arnold D. Samlan
West Hempstead, NY
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies please

Researching: SAMLAN, FREINDLICH, KOOPERMAN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1911 Canadian Census is now on-line! #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"jan meisels allen" < janmallen@worldnet.att.net > wrote :

Dear Jewish Genners:

The Canadian 1911 Census which has been the focus of a long legislative
battle is now on-line and accessible! It may be viewed at:

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html


Legislation enacted only a few weeks ago -S-18 --released the 1911 census
and the censuses that follow through 2001 (each census will be released 92
years after it was taken).

A great accomplishment in a few weeks, so kudos to Ian E. Wilson, Librarian
and Archivist of Canada, and the staff at Library and Archives Canada for
their hard work in putting these valuable records online sooner than was
expected.

For those with Canadian ancestry, enjoy the census!!
What was the previous situation and what was the argument for the change?


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Romania SIG #Romania Rosie (FREINDLICH) and Moses SAMLAN #romania

Arnold Samlan
 

With the help of the JGS of Montreal, I recently located the grave of my
great grandmother Rosie (FREINDLICH) SAMLAN, who died March 21, 1915 and in
buried in Back River Cemetery there. It is possible that she was >from Romania.

She left one son, Abraham (my grandfather), born in February 1895. He
claimed to be born in Montreal, although we have no birth record to confirm that.

I am trying to locate any information about Rosie's life, including and
especially Canadian/Quebec immigration information. I'm also trying to locate any
Romanian documents or records that might shed some light on the life of her
husband, Moses, about whom we know only that he was born in Romania,
supposedly died in a war -- family legend has it as the Spanish-American War. We have
no burial information.

Any information, leads or ideas appreciated.

Arnold D. Samlan
West Hempstead, NY
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies please

Researching: SAMLAN, FREINDLICH, KOOPERMAN


Re: Jewish or English? #general

Yisrael Asper
 

The truth is that being Jewish is both a religious and ethnic classification
depending on context. Nationality is not really a good description as the Jews
have since the First Exile in Babylon always had a Diaspora. The peculiar Jewish
situation stems >from the time when every people had its own religion. There were
even more local deities too. When someone moved to a new place he adopted the
faith of the place. So when NonJews moved to Ancient Israel they became Jewish.
The difference was Judaism rejected other gods and so could survive in Exile. We
started the concept of absolute religion/ethics as opposed to pleasing local
deities with differing demands. If it were as simple as Religion or Ethnicity
we would not be having anything to discuss. No one calls the at least global
Catholic community an ethnic group.
Yisrael Asper
yisraelasper@comcast.net
Pittsburgh PA


Re: Jews in England: Jewish star with a cross inside #general

Avrum Lapin
 

At 1:00 AM -0500 7/21/05, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:

Subject: Jews in England: Jewish star with a cross inside
From: dotvic < dotvic@earthlink.net >
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:06:40 -0700
X-Message-Number: 4

Apropos to this subject I'd like to ask if anyone has knowledge of a Jewish
star with a cross inside? I found this engraved on a tombstone in Wales.
The graveyard was very, very old, overgrown with nettles and other weeds.

I was struck dumb by this sight. If I remember right the name on the stone
wasn't typically Jewish but that might not mean anything.

Many years later I saw the same symbol, a sixpointed star with a cross in
it, painted on the side of a hippy Volkswagon bus.
There is a large Mogen David stained window on a large church (Santa
Crocce) in Florence. The best explanation is that at the time the
church was designed "looks" were more important than being PC and the
architect went for what looked good (You can see a picture on the
cover of Rick Steve's book Italy 2005)

--
Avrum Lapin, of Upland, CA
avrum113@earthlink.net

Researching:
LAPIN Grodno
LAPUNSKI Grodno,Indura and Sokolka
KATZ,Abraham Bialystok and Sokolka
LUBELSKY Bialystok
RODIN Winnipeg and Gomel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish or English? #general

Yisrael Asper
 

The truth is that being Jewish is both a religious and ethnic classification
depending on context. Nationality is not really a good description as the Jews
have since the First Exile in Babylon always had a Diaspora. The peculiar Jewish
situation stems >from the time when every people had its own religion. There were
even more local deities too. When someone moved to a new place he adopted the
faith of the place. So when NonJews moved to Ancient Israel they became Jewish.
The difference was Judaism rejected other gods and so could survive in Exile. We
started the concept of absolute religion/ethics as opposed to pleasing local
deities with differing demands. If it were as simple as Religion or Ethnicity
we would not be having anything to discuss. No one calls the at least global
Catholic community an ethnic group.
Yisrael Asper
yisraelasper@comcast.net
Pittsburgh PA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews in England: Jewish star with a cross inside #general

Avrum Lapin
 

At 1:00 AM -0500 7/21/05, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:

Subject: Jews in England: Jewish star with a cross inside
From: dotvic < dotvic@earthlink.net >
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:06:40 -0700
X-Message-Number: 4

Apropos to this subject I'd like to ask if anyone has knowledge of a Jewish
star with a cross inside? I found this engraved on a tombstone in Wales.
The graveyard was very, very old, overgrown with nettles and other weeds.

I was struck dumb by this sight. If I remember right the name on the stone
wasn't typically Jewish but that might not mean anything.

Many years later I saw the same symbol, a sixpointed star with a cross in
it, painted on the side of a hippy Volkswagon bus.
There is a large Mogen David stained window on a large church (Santa
Crocce) in Florence. The best explanation is that at the time the
church was designed "looks" were more important than being PC and the
architect went for what looked good (You can see a picture on the
cover of Rick Steve's book Italy 2005)

--
Avrum Lapin, of Upland, CA
avrum113@earthlink.net

Researching:
LAPIN Grodno
LAPUNSKI Grodno,Indura and Sokolka
KATZ,Abraham Bialystok and Sokolka
LUBELSKY Bialystok
RODIN Winnipeg and Gomel


Lida District ShtetLink #belarus

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

I regret to announce that the press of my personal life makes it impossible
for me to continue to be maintain the Lida District ShtetLink. I will be
happy to turn it over to someone who does.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI


Grodno #belarus

Aryeh Lopiansky <alop@...>
 

Whithin the past year (or two) a scholarly book on Grodno, written in
Hebrew, was published by one of the large Israeli publishing houses. If
anyone knows the name of the publisher [or how it can be obtained] please
let me know.

Aryeh Lopiansky
Jerusalem