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Israel Genealogical Society/Jerusalem/English Section #general

Barbara Siegel
 

Israel Genealogical Society/Jerusalem
English Section

Barbara Siegel, Coordinator

E-mail: bsiegel@... Tel/Fax: 02-561-8153

Notice of Next Meeting

DATE: Wednesday, May 24, 2006

TIME: 6:00 P.M. Library open

7:30 " Announcements

7:45 " English Section Program

PLACE Beit Frankfurter. 80 Derech Beit Lechem in the Baka'a
neighborhood.

Buses: 7, 21(>from the Central Bus Station) 30,

TOPIC: "The Pity Of It All" A Portrait of the German-Jewish Epoch
1743-1933. by Amos Elon. "A memorable evocation of a disappeared world",
discussed >from a genealogical vantage point by the renowned literary
reviewer, Judy Clark. This is not your usual book review. I have been
searching for some time for the right person to present this important
book to our group and have finally succeeded.

For any one with family roots in Germany, an interest in
the Jews of that country, and/or curiosity about the era, you will get
an in depth description of what life was like for a significant portion
of the Jews of Germany in the 18th and 19th centuries , leading up
to the rise of the Nazi era. The German-Jewish experience was
unique in many ways. " The duality of German and Jew, 2 souls in
a single body, would preoccupy and torment many German Jews
thru-out the later 18th, 19th and first decades of the 20th centuries.
Nowhere in Western Europe was this duality as deeply felt and finally
as tragic".

Replete with details, descriptions of the complexity and
richness of events and culture, portraits of "movers and shakers"
and the resultant consequences, this study provides a very insightful
look into the rise and fall of a fascinating , intriguing and complicated
Jewish community.

And the questions that result, and the lessons to be
learned have importance for all of us.

Any questions? Please E-mail or call Barbara at: bsiegel@...
02-561-8153.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israel Genealogical Society/Jerusalem/English Section #general

Barbara Siegel
 

Israel Genealogical Society/Jerusalem
English Section

Barbara Siegel, Coordinator

E-mail: bsiegel@... Tel/Fax: 02-561-8153

Notice of Next Meeting

DATE: Wednesday, May 24, 2006

TIME: 6:00 P.M. Library open

7:30 " Announcements

7:45 " English Section Program

PLACE Beit Frankfurter. 80 Derech Beit Lechem in the Baka'a
neighborhood.

Buses: 7, 21(>from the Central Bus Station) 30,

TOPIC: "The Pity Of It All" A Portrait of the German-Jewish Epoch
1743-1933. by Amos Elon. "A memorable evocation of a disappeared world",
discussed >from a genealogical vantage point by the renowned literary
reviewer, Judy Clark. This is not your usual book review. I have been
searching for some time for the right person to present this important
book to our group and have finally succeeded.

For any one with family roots in Germany, an interest in
the Jews of that country, and/or curiosity about the era, you will get
an in depth description of what life was like for a significant portion
of the Jews of Germany in the 18th and 19th centuries , leading up
to the rise of the Nazi era. The German-Jewish experience was
unique in many ways. " The duality of German and Jew, 2 souls in
a single body, would preoccupy and torment many German Jews
thru-out the later 18th, 19th and first decades of the 20th centuries.
Nowhere in Western Europe was this duality as deeply felt and finally
as tragic".

Replete with details, descriptions of the complexity and
richness of events and culture, portraits of "movers and shakers"
and the resultant consequences, this study provides a very insightful
look into the rise and fall of a fascinating , intriguing and complicated
Jewish community.

And the questions that result, and the lessons to be
learned have importance for all of us.

Any questions? Please E-mail or call Barbara at: bsiegel@...
02-561-8153.


Re: Sending money home to Galicia #galicia

Mark Halpern
 

In Philadelphia, >from the 1880s up until WWII, at least four Jewish
owned "banks" operated. These so called Ethnic or Immigrant banks
collected money >from immigrants to pay for (and arrange) travel for
family and landsmen to join the recent immigrant in the US.

Of the four Ethnic Banks of Philadelphia, two (Blitzstein and Lipshutz)
have been indexed by the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater
Philadelphia (JGSGP) and the Philadelphia Jewish Archive Center (PJAC)
and these databases, along with an explanation of the collection, can be
found on the JewishGen website at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm. We believe
these may be the only records of this type that have survived in the US,
but these so called Ethnic banks existed in other gateway cities. New
York must have had many of these types of banks.

JGSGP and PJAC will index the remaining two banks -- Rosenbaum and
Rosenbluth. You may be familiar with the Rosenbluth Travel, one of the
largest travel agencies in the US, which started business arranging for
travel of Jews >from eastern Europe to the US.

Mark Halpern
President, JGSGP

----- Original Message -----
Dear fellow Galitzianas,

Around the turn of the last century the husband often came to America
first and sent money to the family in Galicia. How was this money forwarded?

Thanks

Anita Frankel
Near Hartford, CT USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Sending money home to Galicia #galicia

Mark Halpern
 

In Philadelphia, >from the 1880s up until WWII, at least four Jewish
owned "banks" operated. These so called Ethnic or Immigrant banks
collected money >from immigrants to pay for (and arrange) travel for
family and landsmen to join the recent immigrant in the US.

Of the four Ethnic Banks of Philadelphia, two (Blitzstein and Lipshutz)
have been indexed by the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater
Philadelphia (JGSGP) and the Philadelphia Jewish Archive Center (PJAC)
and these databases, along with an explanation of the collection, can be
found on the JewishGen website at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm. We believe
these may be the only records of this type that have survived in the US,
but these so called Ethnic banks existed in other gateway cities. New
York must have had many of these types of banks.

JGSGP and PJAC will index the remaining two banks -- Rosenbaum and
Rosenbluth. You may be familiar with the Rosenbluth Travel, one of the
largest travel agencies in the US, which started business arranging for
travel of Jews >from eastern Europe to the US.

Mark Halpern
President, JGSGP

----- Original Message -----
Dear fellow Galitzianas,

Around the turn of the last century the husband often came to America
first and sent money to the family in Galicia. How was this money forwarded?

Thanks

Anita Frankel
Near Hartford, CT USA


Re: KITAICHIK/NOZIK/FRIDMAN #belarus

Irina Fridman
 

Dear All,

Thank you very much for your emails concerning my search on
KITAICHIKs/NOZIKs/FRIDMANs.
It seems that there are several option on KITAICHIKs origin: Chinaman,
someone who imported fabric >from China (or dealt with kitajka - cheap cotton
fabric) or (I still cannot leave that out) this name has something to do
with Mongol's occupation and the way the person looked (though it's highly
improbable, but one never knows...) In any case I received lots of useful
and interesting information. THANK YOU!

Best regards,
Irina Shub
Chatham, Kent UK

seaching: KITAICHIK >from Bobruisk; FRIDMAN >from Polotsk;
Milmeister/Gershfeld >from Berdich


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: KITAICHIK/NOZIK/FRIDMAN #belarus

Irina Fridman
 

Dear All,

Thank you very much for your emails concerning my search on
KITAICHIKs/NOZIKs/FRIDMANs.
It seems that there are several option on KITAICHIKs origin: Chinaman,
someone who imported fabric >from China (or dealt with kitajka - cheap cotton
fabric) or (I still cannot leave that out) this name has something to do
with Mongol's occupation and the way the person looked (though it's highly
improbable, but one never knows...) In any case I received lots of useful
and interesting information. THANK YOU!

Best regards,
Irina Shub
Chatham, Kent UK

seaching: KITAICHIK >from Bobruisk; FRIDMAN >from Polotsk;
Milmeister/Gershfeld >from Berdich


21st St. Cemetery Manhattan, NY #general

Teri Tillman <natzrose@...>
 

Has anyone visited or passed by Congregation Shearith Israel's historic 21st
Street Cemetery lately? Is it kept locked? Is it possible to make
arrangements to visit the cemetery?

Thank you for your assistance.

Teri Tillman
Natchez, Mississippi


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 21st St. Cemetery Manhattan, NY #general

Teri Tillman <natzrose@...>
 

Has anyone visited or passed by Congregation Shearith Israel's historic 21st
Street Cemetery lately? Is it kept locked? Is it possible to make
arrangements to visit the cemetery?

Thank you for your assistance.

Teri Tillman
Natchez, Mississippi


Sisters! Where were they born? #general

J Wees <jreeva@...>
 

I am looking for any relatives of the two sisters of my grandmother
Molly ADLER MINUK.
Annie Adler was married to Harry GREENBERG. They lived in Ipswich and
had a son Norman, and a daughter as well.
Sarah Adler was married to Sam GOLDSTEIN and they lived in California.
I have now found all of Sarah's grandchildren and her one surviving
son. However, I am trying to find out where the sisters were born, and
who their parents were. Nobody in Sarah's family seems to know.
If you have any ideas of where I could find records of marriages or
births, please let me know. I was on a site today which was miraculous,
but never found any information on the women mentioned above. Possibly
because they were born overseas? I am at a loss!
Janet Wees
Calgary


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sisters! Where were they born? #general

J Wees <jreeva@...>
 

I am looking for any relatives of the two sisters of my grandmother
Molly ADLER MINUK.
Annie Adler was married to Harry GREENBERG. They lived in Ipswich and
had a son Norman, and a daughter as well.
Sarah Adler was married to Sam GOLDSTEIN and they lived in California.
I have now found all of Sarah's grandchildren and her one surviving
son. However, I am trying to find out where the sisters were born, and
who their parents were. Nobody in Sarah's family seems to know.
If you have any ideas of where I could find records of marriages or
births, please let me know. I was on a site today which was miraculous,
but never found any information on the women mentioned above. Possibly
because they were born overseas? I am at a loss!
Janet Wees
Calgary


ViewMate - translation from Russian #general

Eliana Aizim
 

Dear Genners,

I´ve posted on ViewMate the back side of five photos with
inscriptions in Russian which I would like to ask for a translation.
File numbers are: 7853-7859-7860-7861-7862.
Here are the direct addresses for each one of the files:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7853
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7859
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7860
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7861
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7862

Please reply directly to me at: aizim@...
Thanks very much for any help you can give me.

Eliana AIZIM, >from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Visit my GUREVICH photo album:
http://www.geocities.com/elianaaizim/photo2.html

Researching:
AISEN, AIZEN, AISIN: Ukraine: Lugansk /Argentina / Brazil;
GUREVICH: Ukraine: Yuzovka / USA / Brazil: Rio;
VATNICK: Ukraine: Peschanka / Brazil: Rio;
WHITE / VATNICK: Canada: Toronto
AVERBUCH: Ukraine: Zhabokrich / Brazil: Colonia Quatro
Irmaos, Baron Hirsch / Rio de Janeiro.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate - translation from Russian #general

Eliana Aizim
 

Dear Genners,

I´ve posted on ViewMate the back side of five photos with
inscriptions in Russian which I would like to ask for a translation.
File numbers are: 7853-7859-7860-7861-7862.
Here are the direct addresses for each one of the files:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7853
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7859
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7860
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7861
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7862

Please reply directly to me at: aizim@...
Thanks very much for any help you can give me.

Eliana AIZIM, >from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Visit my GUREVICH photo album:
http://www.geocities.com/elianaaizim/photo2.html

Researching:
AISEN, AIZEN, AISIN: Ukraine: Lugansk /Argentina / Brazil;
GUREVICH: Ukraine: Yuzovka / USA / Brazil: Rio;
VATNICK: Ukraine: Peschanka / Brazil: Rio;
WHITE / VATNICK: Canada: Toronto
AVERBUCH: Ukraine: Zhabokrich / Brazil: Colonia Quatro
Irmaos, Baron Hirsch / Rio de Janeiro.


Re: Departure date for S.S. Ethiopia from Glasgow #general

Harvey L Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

Chaim Luria writes:
An ancestor of mine traveled >from Glasgow to New York City and arrived on
Sept 8, 1891. Where can I obtain the *exact* departure date >from Glasgow
for this transatlantic trip.
I would have thought that 2 possibilities are the ship's manifest - held in
the National Archives in London - and the departures page of the Glasgow
Herald newspaper, which will have carried an advert about the ship's
departure.

Harvey L Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Departure date for S.S. Ethiopia from Glasgow #general

Harvey L Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

Chaim Luria writes:
An ancestor of mine traveled >from Glasgow to New York City and arrived on
Sept 8, 1891. Where can I obtain the *exact* departure date >from Glasgow
for this transatlantic trip.
I would have thought that 2 possibilities are the ship's manifest - held in
the National Archives in London - and the departures page of the Glasgow
Herald newspaper, which will have carried an advert about the ship's
departure.

Harvey L Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland


Re: Departure date for S.S. Ethiopia from Glasgow #general

Susan&David
 

The Historical New York Times is available on line via Pro-Quest through
several libraries.
The NY Times ran a regular shipping news column listing ship arrivals
and departures. The Sept. 6, 1891 issue shows the Ethiopia as
incoming >from Glasgow with the date Aug. 27. The Sept 8th issue says"
.. Ethiopia, Glasgow via Moville 11 days ., arrived at the bar 1:40 PM."

It looks like the ship left on Aug 27, arrived in NY Harbor 11 days
later on the 7th, and docked on the 8th.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Chaim Luria wrote:

An ancestor of mine traveled >from Glasgow to New York City and arrived on
Sept 8, 1891. Where can I obtain the *exact* departure date >from Glasgow for
this transatlantic trip.

Chaim Luria
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Departure date for S.S. Ethiopia from Glasgow #general

Susan&David
 

The Historical New York Times is available on line via Pro-Quest through
several libraries.
The NY Times ran a regular shipping news column listing ship arrivals
and departures. The Sept. 6, 1891 issue shows the Ethiopia as
incoming >from Glasgow with the date Aug. 27. The Sept 8th issue says"
.. Ethiopia, Glasgow via Moville 11 days ., arrived at the bar 1:40 PM."

It looks like the ship left on Aug 27, arrived in NY Harbor 11 days
later on the 7th, and docked on the 8th.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Chaim Luria wrote:

An ancestor of mine traveled >from Glasgow to New York City and arrived on
Sept 8, 1891. Where can I obtain the *exact* departure date >from Glasgow for
this transatlantic trip.

Chaim Luria
Jerusalem


The Poor Jews Temporary Shelter Website #general

L. Altman <familysearch@...>
 

As requested by the moderators, here is the website for the Poor Jews
Temporary Shelter Database. There are links to this through the JewishGen
South Africa SIG as well.

http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/shelter/shelter.htm

If you had ancestors that passed through London and most likely did not have
a lot of money then you should search this database.

Linda Altman
1st Vice President, North Carolina Genealogical Society
Raleigh, North Carolina
familysearch@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Poor Jews Temporary Shelter Website #general

L. Altman <familysearch@...>
 

As requested by the moderators, here is the website for the Poor Jews
Temporary Shelter Database. There are links to this through the JewishGen
South Africa SIG as well.

http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/shelter/shelter.htm

If you had ancestors that passed through London and most likely did not have
a lot of money then you should search this database.

Linda Altman
1st Vice President, North Carolina Genealogical Society
Raleigh, North Carolina
familysearch@...


Finding Info on 1950's post-Holocaust Immigrants to Brooklyn #poland

roe kard
 

My father had an aunt, Chaya and a cousin Moshe (Rokart or Rokard I
think), originally >from Belz, Poland (now Ukraine) who survived the
Holocaust in Siberia and immigrated to Brooklyn, New York in the
1950's. They maintained their chassidism in dress, looks and practice.
Tante Chaya, as she was known, and her son, had been through a lot
before they came: one of Chaya's sons had drowned on one of the boats
carrying Jews away >from Europe, and her second son was eaten by dogs or
wolves while they were in Siberia.

The son, Moshe, was married off, by shidduch, to a woman who had a limp.
I can remember their wedding even though I was very young. I think it
was at the Broadway Central Hotel. I am quite sure that they never had
children. I believe that they are all dead now.

I know the address at which they lived in Boro Park, Brooklyn. I do not
know if they were naturalized though they must have been permanent
residents and it would have been my father who brought them over and
watched over them. Does anyone have any ideas about the information I
can get on them and how do I do it. Certainly, I am next of kin.
 
Thank you,
B'shalom, Karen Rosenfeld
Berkeley, Ca.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with specific family
information. Suggestions for research methods may be shared with
the list.


JRI Poland #Poland Finding Info on 1950's post-Holocaust Immigrants to Brooklyn #poland

roe kard
 

My father had an aunt, Chaya and a cousin Moshe (Rokart or Rokard I
think), originally >from Belz, Poland (now Ukraine) who survived the
Holocaust in Siberia and immigrated to Brooklyn, New York in the
1950's. They maintained their chassidism in dress, looks and practice.
Tante Chaya, as she was known, and her son, had been through a lot
before they came: one of Chaya's sons had drowned on one of the boats
carrying Jews away >from Europe, and her second son was eaten by dogs or
wolves while they were in Siberia.

The son, Moshe, was married off, by shidduch, to a woman who had a limp.
I can remember their wedding even though I was very young. I think it
was at the Broadway Central Hotel. I am quite sure that they never had
children. I believe that they are all dead now.

I know the address at which they lived in Boro Park, Brooklyn. I do not
know if they were naturalized though they must have been permanent
residents and it would have been my father who brought them over and
watched over them. Does anyone have any ideas about the information I
can get on them and how do I do it. Certainly, I am next of kin.
 
Thank you,
B'shalom, Karen Rosenfeld
Berkeley, Ca.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with specific family
information. Suggestions for research methods may be shared with
the list.