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Israel Genealogical Society/Jerusalem/English Section
#general
Barbara Siegel
Israel Genealogical Society/Jerusalem
English Section Barbara Siegel, Coordinator E-mail: bsiegel@... Tel/Fax: 02-561-8153 Notice of Next Meeting DATE: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 TIME: 6:00 P.M. Library open 7:30 " Announcements 7:45 " English Section Program PLACE Beit Frankfurter. 80 Derech Beit Lechem in the Baka'a neighborhood. Buses: 7, 21(>from the Central Bus Station) 30, TOPIC: "The Pity Of It All" A Portrait of the German-Jewish Epoch 1743-1933. by Amos Elon. "A memorable evocation of a disappeared world", discussed >from a genealogical vantage point by the renowned literary reviewer, Judy Clark. This is not your usual book review. I have been searching for some time for the right person to present this important book to our group and have finally succeeded. For any one with family roots in Germany, an interest in the Jews of that country, and/or curiosity about the era, you will get an in depth description of what life was like for a significant portion of the Jews of Germany in the 18th and 19th centuries , leading up to the rise of the Nazi era. The German-Jewish experience was unique in many ways. " The duality of German and Jew, 2 souls in a single body, would preoccupy and torment many German Jews thru-out the later 18th, 19th and first decades of the 20th centuries. Nowhere in Western Europe was this duality as deeply felt and finally as tragic". Replete with details, descriptions of the complexity and richness of events and culture, portraits of "movers and shakers" and the resultant consequences, this study provides a very insightful look into the rise and fall of a fascinating , intriguing and complicated Jewish community. And the questions that result, and the lessons to be learned have importance for all of us. Any questions? Please E-mail or call Barbara at: bsiegel@... 02-561-8153.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israel Genealogical Society/Jerusalem/English Section
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Barbara Siegel
Israel Genealogical Society/Jerusalem
English Section Barbara Siegel, Coordinator E-mail: bsiegel@... Tel/Fax: 02-561-8153 Notice of Next Meeting DATE: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 TIME: 6:00 P.M. Library open 7:30 " Announcements 7:45 " English Section Program PLACE Beit Frankfurter. 80 Derech Beit Lechem in the Baka'a neighborhood. Buses: 7, 21(>from the Central Bus Station) 30, TOPIC: "The Pity Of It All" A Portrait of the German-Jewish Epoch 1743-1933. by Amos Elon. "A memorable evocation of a disappeared world", discussed >from a genealogical vantage point by the renowned literary reviewer, Judy Clark. This is not your usual book review. I have been searching for some time for the right person to present this important book to our group and have finally succeeded. For any one with family roots in Germany, an interest in the Jews of that country, and/or curiosity about the era, you will get an in depth description of what life was like for a significant portion of the Jews of Germany in the 18th and 19th centuries , leading up to the rise of the Nazi era. The German-Jewish experience was unique in many ways. " The duality of German and Jew, 2 souls in a single body, would preoccupy and torment many German Jews thru-out the later 18th, 19th and first decades of the 20th centuries. Nowhere in Western Europe was this duality as deeply felt and finally as tragic". Replete with details, descriptions of the complexity and richness of events and culture, portraits of "movers and shakers" and the resultant consequences, this study provides a very insightful look into the rise and fall of a fascinating , intriguing and complicated Jewish community. And the questions that result, and the lessons to be learned have importance for all of us. Any questions? Please E-mail or call Barbara at: bsiegel@... 02-561-8153.
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Re: Sending money home to Galicia
#galicia
Mark Halpern
In Philadelphia, >from the 1880s up until WWII, at least four Jewish
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owned "banks" operated. These so called Ethnic or Immigrant banks collected money >from immigrants to pay for (and arrange) travel for family and landsmen to join the recent immigrant in the US. Of the four Ethnic Banks of Philadelphia, two (Blitzstein and Lipshutz) have been indexed by the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia (JGSGP) and the Philadelphia Jewish Archive Center (PJAC) and these databases, along with an explanation of the collection, can be found on the JewishGen website at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm and http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm. We believe these may be the only records of this type that have survived in the US, but these so called Ethnic banks existed in other gateway cities. New York must have had many of these types of banks. JGSGP and PJAC will index the remaining two banks -- Rosenbaum and Rosenbluth. You may be familiar with the Rosenbluth Travel, one of the largest travel agencies in the US, which started business arranging for travel of Jews >from eastern Europe to the US. Mark Halpern President, JGSGP
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Dear fellow Galitzianas,first and sent money to the family in Galicia. How was this money forwarded?
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Sending money home to Galicia
#galicia
Mark Halpern
In Philadelphia, >from the 1880s up until WWII, at least four Jewish
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owned "banks" operated. These so called Ethnic or Immigrant banks collected money >from immigrants to pay for (and arrange) travel for family and landsmen to join the recent immigrant in the US. Of the four Ethnic Banks of Philadelphia, two (Blitzstein and Lipshutz) have been indexed by the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia (JGSGP) and the Philadelphia Jewish Archive Center (PJAC) and these databases, along with an explanation of the collection, can be found on the JewishGen website at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm and http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm. We believe these may be the only records of this type that have survived in the US, but these so called Ethnic banks existed in other gateway cities. New York must have had many of these types of banks. JGSGP and PJAC will index the remaining two banks -- Rosenbaum and Rosenbluth. You may be familiar with the Rosenbluth Travel, one of the largest travel agencies in the US, which started business arranging for travel of Jews >from eastern Europe to the US. Mark Halpern President, JGSGP
----- Original Message -----
Dear fellow Galitzianas,first and sent money to the family in Galicia. How was this money forwarded?
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Re: KITAICHIK/NOZIK/FRIDMAN
#belarus
Irina Fridman
Dear All,
Thank you very much for your emails concerning my search on KITAICHIKs/NOZIKs/FRIDMANs. It seems that there are several option on KITAICHIKs origin: Chinaman, someone who imported fabric >from China (or dealt with kitajka - cheap cotton fabric) or (I still cannot leave that out) this name has something to do with Mongol's occupation and the way the person looked (though it's highly improbable, but one never knows...) In any case I received lots of useful and interesting information. THANK YOU! Best regards, Irina Shub Chatham, Kent UK seaching: KITAICHIK >from Bobruisk; FRIDMAN >from Polotsk; Milmeister/Gershfeld >from Berdich
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Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: KITAICHIK/NOZIK/FRIDMAN
#belarus
Irina Fridman
Dear All,
Thank you very much for your emails concerning my search on KITAICHIKs/NOZIKs/FRIDMANs. It seems that there are several option on KITAICHIKs origin: Chinaman, someone who imported fabric >from China (or dealt with kitajka - cheap cotton fabric) or (I still cannot leave that out) this name has something to do with Mongol's occupation and the way the person looked (though it's highly improbable, but one never knows...) In any case I received lots of useful and interesting information. THANK YOU! Best regards, Irina Shub Chatham, Kent UK seaching: KITAICHIK >from Bobruisk; FRIDMAN >from Polotsk; Milmeister/Gershfeld >from Berdich
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21st St. Cemetery Manhattan, NY
#general
Teri Tillman <natzrose@...>
Has anyone visited or passed by Congregation Shearith Israel's historic 21st
Street Cemetery lately? Is it kept locked? Is it possible to make arrangements to visit the cemetery? Thank you for your assistance. Teri Tillman Natchez, Mississippi
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 21st St. Cemetery Manhattan, NY
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Teri Tillman <natzrose@...>
Has anyone visited or passed by Congregation Shearith Israel's historic 21st
Street Cemetery lately? Is it kept locked? Is it possible to make arrangements to visit the cemetery? Thank you for your assistance. Teri Tillman Natchez, Mississippi
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Sisters! Where were they born?
#general
J Wees <jreeva@...>
I am looking for any relatives of the two sisters of my grandmother
Molly ADLER MINUK. Annie Adler was married to Harry GREENBERG. They lived in Ipswich and had a son Norman, and a daughter as well. Sarah Adler was married to Sam GOLDSTEIN and they lived in California. I have now found all of Sarah's grandchildren and her one surviving son. However, I am trying to find out where the sisters were born, and who their parents were. Nobody in Sarah's family seems to know. If you have any ideas of where I could find records of marriages or births, please let me know. I was on a site today which was miraculous, but never found any information on the women mentioned above. Possibly because they were born overseas? I am at a loss! Janet Wees Calgary
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sisters! Where were they born?
#general
J Wees <jreeva@...>
I am looking for any relatives of the two sisters of my grandmother
Molly ADLER MINUK. Annie Adler was married to Harry GREENBERG. They lived in Ipswich and had a son Norman, and a daughter as well. Sarah Adler was married to Sam GOLDSTEIN and they lived in California. I have now found all of Sarah's grandchildren and her one surviving son. However, I am trying to find out where the sisters were born, and who their parents were. Nobody in Sarah's family seems to know. If you have any ideas of where I could find records of marriages or births, please let me know. I was on a site today which was miraculous, but never found any information on the women mentioned above. Possibly because they were born overseas? I am at a loss! Janet Wees Calgary
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ViewMate - translation from Russian
#general
Dear Genners,
I´ve posted on ViewMate the back side of five photos with inscriptions in Russian which I would like to ask for a translation. File numbers are: 7853-7859-7860-7861-7862. Here are the direct addresses for each one of the files: http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7853 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7859 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7860 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7861 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7862 Please reply directly to me at: aizim@... Thanks very much for any help you can give me. Eliana AIZIM, >from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Visit my GUREVICH photo album: http://www.geocities.com/elianaaizim/photo2.html Researching: AISEN, AIZEN, AISIN: Ukraine: Lugansk /Argentina / Brazil; GUREVICH: Ukraine: Yuzovka / USA / Brazil: Rio; VATNICK: Ukraine: Peschanka / Brazil: Rio; WHITE / VATNICK: Canada: Toronto AVERBUCH: Ukraine: Zhabokrich / Brazil: Colonia Quatro Irmaos, Baron Hirsch / Rio de Janeiro.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate - translation from Russian
#general
Dear Genners,
I´ve posted on ViewMate the back side of five photos with inscriptions in Russian which I would like to ask for a translation. File numbers are: 7853-7859-7860-7861-7862. Here are the direct addresses for each one of the files: http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7853 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7859 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7860 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7861 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7862 Please reply directly to me at: aizim@... Thanks very much for any help you can give me. Eliana AIZIM, >from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Visit my GUREVICH photo album: http://www.geocities.com/elianaaizim/photo2.html Researching: AISEN, AIZEN, AISIN: Ukraine: Lugansk /Argentina / Brazil; GUREVICH: Ukraine: Yuzovka / USA / Brazil: Rio; VATNICK: Ukraine: Peschanka / Brazil: Rio; WHITE / VATNICK: Canada: Toronto AVERBUCH: Ukraine: Zhabokrich / Brazil: Colonia Quatro Irmaos, Baron Hirsch / Rio de Janeiro.
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Re: Departure date for S.S. Ethiopia from Glasgow
#general
Harvey L Kaplan <harvey@...>
Chaim Luria writes:
An ancestor of mine traveled >from Glasgow to New York City and arrived onI would have thought that 2 possibilities are the ship's manifest - held in the National Archives in London - and the departures page of the Glasgow Herald newspaper, which will have carried an advert about the ship's departure. Harvey L Kaplan Glasgow, Scotland
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Departure date for S.S. Ethiopia from Glasgow
#general
Harvey L Kaplan <harvey@...>
Chaim Luria writes:
An ancestor of mine traveled >from Glasgow to New York City and arrived onI would have thought that 2 possibilities are the ship's manifest - held in the National Archives in London - and the departures page of the Glasgow Herald newspaper, which will have carried an advert about the ship's departure. Harvey L Kaplan Glasgow, Scotland
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Re: Departure date for S.S. Ethiopia from Glasgow
#general
Susan&David
The Historical New York Times is available on line via Pro-Quest through
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several libraries. The NY Times ran a regular shipping news column listing ship arrivals and departures. The Sept. 6, 1891 issue shows the Ethiopia as incoming >from Glasgow with the date Aug. 27. The Sept 8th issue says" .. Ethiopia, Glasgow via Moville 11 days ., arrived at the bar 1:40 PM." It looks like the ship left on Aug 27, arrived in NY Harbor 11 days later on the 7th, and docked on the 8th. David Rosen Boston, MA Chaim Luria wrote:
An ancestor of mine traveled >from Glasgow to New York City and arrived on
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Departure date for S.S. Ethiopia from Glasgow
#general
Susan&David
The Historical New York Times is available on line via Pro-Quest through
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several libraries. The NY Times ran a regular shipping news column listing ship arrivals and departures. The Sept. 6, 1891 issue shows the Ethiopia as incoming >from Glasgow with the date Aug. 27. The Sept 8th issue says" .. Ethiopia, Glasgow via Moville 11 days ., arrived at the bar 1:40 PM." It looks like the ship left on Aug 27, arrived in NY Harbor 11 days later on the 7th, and docked on the 8th. David Rosen Boston, MA Chaim Luria wrote:
An ancestor of mine traveled >from Glasgow to New York City and arrived on
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The Poor Jews Temporary Shelter Website
#general
L. Altman <familysearch@...>
As requested by the moderators, here is the website for the Poor Jews
Temporary Shelter Database. There are links to this through the JewishGen South Africa SIG as well. http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/shelter/shelter.htm If you had ancestors that passed through London and most likely did not have a lot of money then you should search this database. Linda Altman 1st Vice President, North Carolina Genealogical Society Raleigh, North Carolina familysearch@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Poor Jews Temporary Shelter Website
#general
L. Altman <familysearch@...>
As requested by the moderators, here is the website for the Poor Jews
Temporary Shelter Database. There are links to this through the JewishGen South Africa SIG as well. http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/shelter/shelter.htm If you had ancestors that passed through London and most likely did not have a lot of money then you should search this database. Linda Altman 1st Vice President, North Carolina Genealogical Society Raleigh, North Carolina familysearch@...
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Finding Info on 1950's post-Holocaust Immigrants to Brooklyn
#poland
roe kard
My father had an aunt, Chaya and a cousin Moshe (Rokart or Rokard I
think), originally >from Belz, Poland (now Ukraine) who survived the Holocaust in Siberia and immigrated to Brooklyn, New York in the 1950's. They maintained their chassidism in dress, looks and practice. Tante Chaya, as she was known, and her son, had been through a lot before they came: one of Chaya's sons had drowned on one of the boats carrying Jews away >from Europe, and her second son was eaten by dogs or wolves while they were in Siberia. The son, Moshe, was married off, by shidduch, to a woman who had a limp. I can remember their wedding even though I was very young. I think it was at the Broadway Central Hotel. I am quite sure that they never had children. I believe that they are all dead now. I know the address at which they lived in Boro Park, Brooklyn. I do not know if they were naturalized though they must have been permanent residents and it would have been my father who brought them over and watched over them. Does anyone have any ideas about the information I can get on them and how do I do it. Certainly, I am next of kin. Thank you, B'shalom, Karen Rosenfeld Berkeley, Ca. MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with specific family information. Suggestions for research methods may be shared with the list.
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JRI Poland #Poland Finding Info on 1950's post-Holocaust Immigrants to Brooklyn
#poland
roe kard
My father had an aunt, Chaya and a cousin Moshe (Rokart or Rokard I
think), originally >from Belz, Poland (now Ukraine) who survived the Holocaust in Siberia and immigrated to Brooklyn, New York in the 1950's. They maintained their chassidism in dress, looks and practice. Tante Chaya, as she was known, and her son, had been through a lot before they came: one of Chaya's sons had drowned on one of the boats carrying Jews away >from Europe, and her second son was eaten by dogs or wolves while they were in Siberia. The son, Moshe, was married off, by shidduch, to a woman who had a limp. I can remember their wedding even though I was very young. I think it was at the Broadway Central Hotel. I am quite sure that they never had children. I believe that they are all dead now. I know the address at which they lived in Boro Park, Brooklyn. I do not know if they were naturalized though they must have been permanent residents and it would have been my father who brought them over and watched over them. Does anyone have any ideas about the information I can get on them and how do I do it. Certainly, I am next of kin. Thank you, B'shalom, Karen Rosenfeld Berkeley, Ca. MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with specific family information. Suggestions for research methods may be shared with the list.
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