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Re: SCHEIBNER in Wien / Vienna #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Welcome to our SIG, Lars - you ask: "Anna SCHEIBNER was born in Vienna / Wien on 29 Jan 1858. Her
parents are unknown. There were a number of Jewish families SCHEIBNER in Slovakia, Moravia, and Hungary. How could my friend
continue her research? Trying to find a vital record in a big city like Vienna.or Berlin often can be like
looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack."

Vienna is certainly no "needle in a haystack" when looking for Jewish records. If this SCHEIBNER famiy was
Jewish, Anna's birth will be recorded in the IKG {Vienna Jewish Community} birth records. You can search
relevant LDS records or write/email the IKG for all vital records.

Please look at our website and read Randol Schoenberg's section entitled: "Getting started in Austrian-
Jewish Genealogy [needs updating!].

Also go to the IKG website and look archives where you will get an address for the for Matrikenamt:
http://www.ikg-wien.at/static/etis/unter/html/se_index.htm

They are very busy, but you shoud get an answer after a while. Please write clearly what you require. Then
go to the IKG cemetery database:

http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=de {German version for Lars!}
Please remember to tick: *auch Daten ohne Sterbedatum und Beerdigungsdatum anzeigen* and look for
SCHEIBNER:

Zentralfriedhof Tor IV 9 22 17
Emil aged 43 11.08.1923 15.08.1923

Buried together: Zentralfriedhof Tor IV 5 3 29
Scheibner Regine aged 70 22.09.1920 24.09.1920
Scheibner Henriette aged 57 20.11.1938 23.11.1938

Buried together:Zentralfriedhof Tor IV 17 16 92
Karoline Sara aged 70 20.09.1940 24.09.1940
Leopold aged 76 30.05.1932 01.06.1932

Zentralfriedhof Tor IV 4 31 36
Philipp aged 60 24.08.1923 26.08.1923

from this we can deduce that these were all rather latecomers to Vienna and may be relatives of Anna.
They are unlikely to have come >from Bohemia and Moravia, whose Jewish families arrived much earlier.
Their first names do not suggest Galicia either, so they may indeed be >from Slovakia.

If you look at familysearch.org you will find:

Hermine SCHEIBNER father Adolf - mother Marie SCHICK married Max Glasel in NY 26 Jan 1902

Also Adolf SCHEIBNER - father: Hyman - mother: Bertha SPITZER married Lena LAMPERT 08 Dec 1898 in NY

Irma SCHEIBNER >from Marvaliska, , , Austria - father: Adolf SCHEIBNER
Mmther: Marie SCHICK married Louis RICHWALD 06 Sept. 1903 New York

Sadly therr are also 51 SCHEIBNER holocaust victims listed on yad vashem.

We can conclude that there were definitely Jewish SCHEIBNER families in the Habsburg Empire. All we need
to establish now is whether Anna SCHEIBNER is registered in the Vienna IKG birth records.

I have checked the Neue Freie Presse Partezettel/obituaries http://anno.onb.ac.at/ for the above SCHEIBNER
and unfortunately I have been unable to find any. {I gave Lesson Part 1 last week on how to find your
Partezettel {part 2 will follow shortly}.

Celia Male - London, U.K.

Footnote: Tony Hausner should follow the same steps as Lars to get his death record. This may however not
show the actual birth date required.

He will have to follow other more complex steps for that, if it is not there - so we will wait for the first result
before proceeding further.


Re: :Vienna death records #austria-czech

David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
 

There are two approaches that can be used to answer Tony Hausner " How do I get death records >from
vienna for 1929? "

One is to look through the records of the IKG as filmed by the Mormons (aka LDS). As Tony already
knows the burial details of his ggrandfather he could order the relevant microfilm for Wien,
Austria, Jewish records, Tote 1929 >from their online catalog
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0
and search that film at one of the LDS Family History Centres.

The other is to contact Wolf-Erich Eckstein, the current Martikelamt at the Vienna IKG. As I
presume that Wolf-Erich is a very busy person, this should only be done if the above method is
unsuccessful, or if you live in Israel where the LDS does not have centres.

Regards

David Laufer
Sydney


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: SCHEIBNER in Wien / Vienna #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Welcome to our SIG, Lars - you ask: "Anna SCHEIBNER was born in Vienna / Wien on 29 Jan 1858. Her
parents are unknown. There were a number of Jewish families SCHEIBNER in Slovakia, Moravia, and Hungary. How could my friend
continue her research? Trying to find a vital record in a big city like Vienna.or Berlin often can be like
looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack."

Vienna is certainly no "needle in a haystack" when looking for Jewish records. If this SCHEIBNER famiy was
Jewish, Anna's birth will be recorded in the IKG {Vienna Jewish Community} birth records. You can search
relevant LDS records or write/email the IKG for all vital records.

Please look at our website and read Randol Schoenberg's section entitled: "Getting started in Austrian-
Jewish Genealogy [needs updating!].

Also go to the IKG website and look archives where you will get an address for the for Matrikenamt:
http://www.ikg-wien.at/static/etis/unter/html/se_index.htm

They are very busy, but you shoud get an answer after a while. Please write clearly what you require. Then
go to the IKG cemetery database:

http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=de {German version for Lars!}
Please remember to tick: *auch Daten ohne Sterbedatum und Beerdigungsdatum anzeigen* and look for
SCHEIBNER:

Zentralfriedhof Tor IV 9 22 17
Emil aged 43 11.08.1923 15.08.1923

Buried together: Zentralfriedhof Tor IV 5 3 29
Scheibner Regine aged 70 22.09.1920 24.09.1920
Scheibner Henriette aged 57 20.11.1938 23.11.1938

Buried together:Zentralfriedhof Tor IV 17 16 92
Karoline Sara aged 70 20.09.1940 24.09.1940
Leopold aged 76 30.05.1932 01.06.1932

Zentralfriedhof Tor IV 4 31 36
Philipp aged 60 24.08.1923 26.08.1923

from this we can deduce that these were all rather latecomers to Vienna and may be relatives of Anna.
They are unlikely to have come >from Bohemia and Moravia, whose Jewish families arrived much earlier.
Their first names do not suggest Galicia either, so they may indeed be >from Slovakia.

If you look at familysearch.org you will find:

Hermine SCHEIBNER father Adolf - mother Marie SCHICK married Max Glasel in NY 26 Jan 1902

Also Adolf SCHEIBNER - father: Hyman - mother: Bertha SPITZER married Lena LAMPERT 08 Dec 1898 in NY

Irma SCHEIBNER >from Marvaliska, , , Austria - father: Adolf SCHEIBNER
Mmther: Marie SCHICK married Louis RICHWALD 06 Sept. 1903 New York

Sadly therr are also 51 SCHEIBNER holocaust victims listed on yad vashem.

We can conclude that there were definitely Jewish SCHEIBNER families in the Habsburg Empire. All we need
to establish now is whether Anna SCHEIBNER is registered in the Vienna IKG birth records.

I have checked the Neue Freie Presse Partezettel/obituaries http://anno.onb.ac.at/ for the above SCHEIBNER
and unfortunately I have been unable to find any. {I gave Lesson Part 1 last week on how to find your
Partezettel {part 2 will follow shortly}.

Celia Male - London, U.K.

Footnote: Tony Hausner should follow the same steps as Lars to get his death record. This may however not
show the actual birth date required.

He will have to follow other more complex steps for that, if it is not there - so we will wait for the first result
before proceeding further.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re::Vienna death records #austria-czech

David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
 

There are two approaches that can be used to answer Tony Hausner " How do I get death records >from
vienna for 1929? "

One is to look through the records of the IKG as filmed by the Mormons (aka LDS). As Tony already
knows the burial details of his ggrandfather he could order the relevant microfilm for Wien,
Austria, Jewish records, Tote 1929 >from their online catalog
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0
and search that film at one of the LDS Family History Centres.

The other is to contact Wolf-Erich Eckstein, the current Martikelamt at the Vienna IKG. As I
presume that Wolf-Erich is a very busy person, this should only be done if the above method is
unsuccessful, or if you live in Israel where the LDS does not have centres.

Regards

David Laufer
Sydney


ViewMate #austria-czech

Philip Moravcik <morav@...>
 

Hello,

I tried to post a document on ViewMate this morning and found that it is
down since August sometime.

Does anyone know the status of ViewMate?

Thank you.

Philip Moravcik, Univ. of Hawaii,


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech ViewMate #austria-czech

Philip Moravcik <morav@...>
 

Hello,

I tried to post a document on ViewMate this morning and found that it is
down since August sometime.

Does anyone know the status of ViewMate?

Thank you.

Philip Moravcik, Univ. of Hawaii,


Shimelevich- Pusalatos #lithuania

Israel Hoffman <sollynira@...>
 

I am searching for descendants of the Shimelevich Family who stem >from
Pusalatos Lithuania.

I have had information that that some of the members of the family lived
in Philadelphia PA. I have used the services of a profesional researcher
who searched the Philadelphia Directory for the years 1880-1925 with no
results.

There is a possibility that on arrival in the USA they changed their
family name or possibly they did not live in Philadelphia at all.

These are the names of members of the Shimelevich Family of Pusalatos
The ages are correct to 1890
Orel (54) his wife Leah(51)
Their Children Leizer(33) his wife Reiza (28)their son Mousha(10)
Chatzkel(28)his wife Sheva(25) (nee Hoffman)their son Khaim Joseph(3)
Pinchas(22)Etal (20)Khaim (17) Michel(13)

I am asking if any one has knowledge of this Family or their descendents
please contact Me privately

Best Regards
Solly Hoffman
sollynira@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Shimelevich- Pusalatos #lithuania

Israel Hoffman <sollynira@...>
 

I am searching for descendants of the Shimelevich Family who stem >from
Pusalatos Lithuania.

I have had information that that some of the members of the family lived
in Philadelphia PA. I have used the services of a profesional researcher
who searched the Philadelphia Directory for the years 1880-1925 with no
results.

There is a possibility that on arrival in the USA they changed their
family name or possibly they did not live in Philadelphia at all.

These are the names of members of the Shimelevich Family of Pusalatos
The ages are correct to 1890
Orel (54) his wife Leah(51)
Their Children Leizer(33) his wife Reiza (28)their son Mousha(10)
Chatzkel(28)his wife Sheva(25) (nee Hoffman)their son Khaim Joseph(3)
Pinchas(22)Etal (20)Khaim (17) Michel(13)

I am asking if any one has knowledge of this Family or their descendents
please contact Me privately

Best Regards
Solly Hoffman
sollynira@...


Regarding "Cousins" #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins!

I was once trying to establish a kinship connection to a family my father always
said were our cousins. An elderly member of the family in question said she didn't
think we were related. We did have roots in the same town, she knew, and our
families were close, but went to say that people called landsman (sp?) 'cousins.'
(I still think we are related, but so far have no way to prove it.)

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Regarding "Cousins" #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins!

I was once trying to establish a kinship connection to a family my father always
said were our cousins. An elderly member of the family in question said she didn't
think we were related. We did have roots in the same town, she knew, and our
families were close, but went to say that people called landsman (sp?) 'cousins.'
(I still think we are related, but so far have no way to prove it.)

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


Re: Passports Required in 1927? #general

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Anita asked if passports were required in 1927. Short answer: NO.

Until 1941, U.S. citizens were not required to have a passport for travel abroad.
Passports were recommended, but not required, by Executive Order 1915, which stated
that all persons leaving the U.S. should have passports. An exception was that
passports were required >from May 22, 1918 (40 Stat. 559), until the formal
termination of World War I in 1921 by treaties.

Passport applications can be an excellent source of genealogical information. NARA
has passport applications >from Oct. 1795-Mar. 1925 and the big A has imaged them,
so you can research them online. After this period, you need to apply to the Dept.
of State.
--
Happy Hunting!

Phyllis Kramer of NYC and Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
phylliskramer1@...
VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc.
researching (mostly Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod, Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn (also Iasi, Romania)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Passports Required in 1927? #general

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Anita asked if passports were required in 1927. Short answer: NO.

Until 1941, U.S. citizens were not required to have a passport for travel abroad.
Passports were recommended, but not required, by Executive Order 1915, which stated
that all persons leaving the U.S. should have passports. An exception was that
passports were required >from May 22, 1918 (40 Stat. 559), until the formal
termination of World War I in 1921 by treaties.

Passport applications can be an excellent source of genealogical information. NARA
has passport applications >from Oct. 1795-Mar. 1925 and the big A has imaged them,
so you can research them online. After this period, you need to apply to the Dept.
of State.
--
Happy Hunting!

Phyllis Kramer of NYC and Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
phylliskramer1@...
VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc.
researching (mostly Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod, Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn (also Iasi, Romania)


Strzeliska Nowe #general

MrsD203@...
 

I have been trying to locate photographs and any existing information about the
Galician towns of Strzeliska Nowe, Strzeliska Stare, Tuczna, and Wojciechowice.
If anyone knows of sources that might have anything at all, I would be most
grateful.

Blanche Deutsch
MrsD203@...

MODERATOR NOTE: If you have not already done so, you might want to check with Gesher
Galicia, the Special Interest Group (SIG) for Galicia at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Strzeliska Nowe #general

MrsD203@...
 

I have been trying to locate photographs and any existing information about the
Galician towns of Strzeliska Nowe, Strzeliska Stare, Tuczna, and Wojciechowice.
If anyone knows of sources that might have anything at all, I would be most
grateful.

Blanche Deutsch
MrsD203@...

MODERATOR NOTE: If you have not already done so, you might want to check with Gesher
Galicia, the Special Interest Group (SIG) for Galicia at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/


Re: Leeheim, Hesse-Darmstadt - help requested #general

P. S. Wyant
 

Shalom, Lisa,

I have looked in my copy of Schleindl, "Der Juedische Friedhof Gross-Gerau - Ein
Beitrag zur Geschichte der Landjuden in Suedhessen" (Justus von Liebig Verlag,
Darmstadt, 1993) and especially at the list of extant gravestones at Leeheim, for
any references to REGENSTEIN and have found, of the 27 stones listed (pp. 124-125):
- A2/79 Gedalya DANIEL (sic), Sohn des Meir REGENSTEIN 27.05.1884
- B3/7 Johanna REGENSTEIN, geb. WOLF, Ehefrau des Josef REGENSTEIN
09.02.1864-10.07.1910
- B3/8 Zodik REGENSTEIN, Sohn des Gedalja REGENSTEIN 12.09.1862-10.09.1910
- B3/39 Flora REGENSTEIN, geb. GRUEN 25.05.1913
- C3/14 Josef REGENSTEIN, Josef, Sohn des Gedalja 28.11.1867-30.06.1935
- D2/13 Gustav REGENSTEIN 24.10.1889-6-10.1890
- D4/15 Bertha REGENSTEIN, Belchen, Tochter des Josef 25.08.1914-17.04.1916

Leeheim is one of 30 Gemeinden listed for Kreis Gross-Gerau; there are no
REGENSTEIN entries listed for Gross-Gerau itself.

I trust this is of some interest ... pls feel free to contact me directly if there
are any of the other cemeteries in the area in which you might be interested.

There is also a 1/2 page write-up on Leeheim in Arnsberg, "Die juedischen Gemeinde
in Hessen" (Societaets-Verlag, Frankfurt, 1971), Band I, (pp. 483 - 484) that says
that included in the four Jewish families that lived there (about 20 people) before
1933, all had emigrated to the US by 1938 - one of these four families was led by
Karl REGENSTEIN.

There is also some summary information on the Jewish community at Leeheim in
"Heimatgeschichtlichter Wegweiser zu Staetten des Widerstandes und der
Verfolgung, 1933 - 1945 -- Hessen I -- Regierungsbezirk Darmstadt", (indeed
on the entire Kreis Gross-Gerau), on pp. 170 - 171, but there is no mention
of any REGENSTEINs, just an Ernst DIETRICH, b. 1937 at Leeheim, deported to
Auschwitz-Birkenau in Spring, 1943, at age six years.

Regards,

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

<ldashman@...> wrote:
I've recently learned that part of my REGENSTEIN family was born in Leeheim,
Germany, in the Hesse-Darmstadt region.
MODERATOR NOTE: If you go to http://tinyurl.com/5s443r you will find information on
which libraries hold copies of Der Juedische Friedhof Gross-Gerau - Ein
Beitrag zur Geschichte der Landjuden in Suedhessen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Leeheim, Hesse-Darmstadt - help requested #general

P. S. Wyant
 

Shalom, Lisa,

I have looked in my copy of Schleindl, "Der Juedische Friedhof Gross-Gerau - Ein
Beitrag zur Geschichte der Landjuden in Suedhessen" (Justus von Liebig Verlag,
Darmstadt, 1993) and especially at the list of extant gravestones at Leeheim, for
any references to REGENSTEIN and have found, of the 27 stones listed (pp. 124-125):
- A2/79 Gedalya DANIEL (sic), Sohn des Meir REGENSTEIN 27.05.1884
- B3/7 Johanna REGENSTEIN, geb. WOLF, Ehefrau des Josef REGENSTEIN
09.02.1864-10.07.1910
- B3/8 Zodik REGENSTEIN, Sohn des Gedalja REGENSTEIN 12.09.1862-10.09.1910
- B3/39 Flora REGENSTEIN, geb. GRUEN 25.05.1913
- C3/14 Josef REGENSTEIN, Josef, Sohn des Gedalja 28.11.1867-30.06.1935
- D2/13 Gustav REGENSTEIN 24.10.1889-6-10.1890
- D4/15 Bertha REGENSTEIN, Belchen, Tochter des Josef 25.08.1914-17.04.1916

Leeheim is one of 30 Gemeinden listed for Kreis Gross-Gerau; there are no
REGENSTEIN entries listed for Gross-Gerau itself.

I trust this is of some interest ... pls feel free to contact me directly if there
are any of the other cemeteries in the area in which you might be interested.

There is also a 1/2 page write-up on Leeheim in Arnsberg, "Die juedischen Gemeinde
in Hessen" (Societaets-Verlag, Frankfurt, 1971), Band I, (pp. 483 - 484) that says
that included in the four Jewish families that lived there (about 20 people) before
1933, all had emigrated to the US by 1938 - one of these four families was led by
Karl REGENSTEIN.

There is also some summary information on the Jewish community at Leeheim in
"Heimatgeschichtlichter Wegweiser zu Staetten des Widerstandes und der
Verfolgung, 1933 - 1945 -- Hessen I -- Regierungsbezirk Darmstadt", (indeed
on the entire Kreis Gross-Gerau), on pp. 170 - 171, but there is no mention
of any REGENSTEINs, just an Ernst DIETRICH, b. 1937 at Leeheim, deported to
Auschwitz-Birkenau in Spring, 1943, at age six years.

Regards,

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

<ldashman@...> wrote:
I've recently learned that part of my REGENSTEIN family was born in Leeheim,
Germany, in the Hesse-Darmstadt region.
MODERATOR NOTE: If you go to http://tinyurl.com/5s443r you will find information on
which libraries hold copies of Der Juedische Friedhof Gross-Gerau - Ein
Beitrag zur Geschichte der Landjuden in Suedhessen


Gross Gerau #general

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Lisa,

There are 6 books about the Jews of Gross Gerau listed in Worldcat --
http://www.worldcat.org. They are all in German. Worldcat tells you what libraries
hold these books, which you can request on interlibrary loan through your local
public library.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA
laguna@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gross Gerau #general

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Lisa,

There are 6 books about the Jews of Gross Gerau listed in Worldcat --
http://www.worldcat.org. They are all in German. Worldcat tells you what libraries
hold these books, which you can request on interlibrary loan through your local
public library.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA
laguna@...


Re: Something to Ponder #general

paulkozo@...
 

Scott Shulz asked whether with four grandparents >from the Ukraine "would I be a
Russian-American or a Ukrainian-American?"

I suspect that Scott would be labelled by most people a (Russian/Ukrainian) Jewish
American or perhaps more problematically a (Russian/Ukrainian) American Jew - and
that "most people" would include almostall non Jewish Russian and Ukrainian
Americans.

In Britain these questions don't arise in quite the same way. There is, for
example, with no problems, "the Board of Deputies of Britsh Jews" that claims to
represent "British Jewry". The term "English Jew" as opposed to "British Jew" has
its own odd resonance, although Scottish or Irish Jew would be wholly acceptable.,
Hyphenations such as "Russian British" or "Jewish Briton" would be peculiar. Thus
a Jewish British Princess is not a "JBP", but is probably still a "beck".

Paul Hattori
London UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Something to Ponder #general

paulkozo@...
 

Scott Shulz asked whether with four grandparents >from the Ukraine "would I be a
Russian-American or a Ukrainian-American?"

I suspect that Scott would be labelled by most people a (Russian/Ukrainian) Jewish
American or perhaps more problematically a (Russian/Ukrainian) American Jew - and
that "most people" would include almostall non Jewish Russian and Ukrainian
Americans.

In Britain these questions don't arise in quite the same way. There is, for
example, with no problems, "the Board of Deputies of Britsh Jews" that claims to
represent "British Jewry". The term "English Jew" as opposed to "British Jew" has
its own odd resonance, although Scottish or Irish Jew would be wholly acceptable.,
Hyphenations such as "Russian British" or "Jewish Briton" would be peculiar. Thus
a Jewish British Princess is not a "JBP", but is probably still a "beck".

Paul Hattori
London UK