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Vienna death records vs Kojetin birth record #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Thank you David for giving some basic data to Tony about the sources in Vienna. May I also recommend
Henry Wellisch's article: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ikgarchive.html

which tells you how to locate the relevant LDS films.

The reason Tony apparently wants this death record is to get the *exact* birthdate of his gt-grandfather so
he can check the birth record in Prague for Kojetin. He first asked for volunteers to check the headstone.

I read that the Jewish population of Kojetin was only 506 in the 1857
and in 1850 when Tony's gt-grandfather was born it was probably even less.
So how many babies could have been born in that year? 100 perhaps?

I can see no reason to find the exact birth date record in Vienna as the number of births/year in Kojetin are
not so great. I doubt it would take more than 30 minutes to scan through the Kojetin Jewish birth book for
years 1849-1851 and find the birth.

I did write that all this would have been much easier if we had all been told the facts. Unless there is a clear
reason for total anonymity/ secrecy, a posting asking for volunteers to help should contain as much
relevant detail as possible. If Tony knows that his gt-grandparents married in Vienna {I know their children
were born there}, then the *marriage* certificate would be the one to go for as that definitely contains the
dates of birth of the bride and groom.

The surest hits in Vienna will be found in the Wiener Stadt und Landesarchiv: Kartei der Fremden,
Ausgeschiedenen, Meldezettel, probate record - but before involving many others I would start at source,
namely with the birth book of Kojetin [assuming they exist] in Prague!

Celia Male - London U.K.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Vienna death records vs Kojetin birth record #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Thank you David for giving some basic data to Tony about the sources in Vienna. May I also recommend
Henry Wellisch's article: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ikgarchive.html

which tells you how to locate the relevant LDS films.

The reason Tony apparently wants this death record is to get the *exact* birthdate of his gt-grandfather so
he can check the birth record in Prague for Kojetin. He first asked for volunteers to check the headstone.

I read that the Jewish population of Kojetin was only 506 in the 1857
and in 1850 when Tony's gt-grandfather was born it was probably even less.
So how many babies could have been born in that year? 100 perhaps?

I can see no reason to find the exact birth date record in Vienna as the number of births/year in Kojetin are
not so great. I doubt it would take more than 30 minutes to scan through the Kojetin Jewish birth book for
years 1849-1851 and find the birth.

I did write that all this would have been much easier if we had all been told the facts. Unless there is a clear
reason for total anonymity/ secrecy, a posting asking for volunteers to help should contain as much
relevant detail as possible. If Tony knows that his gt-grandparents married in Vienna {I know their children
were born there}, then the *marriage* certificate would be the one to go for as that definitely contains the
dates of birth of the bride and groom.

The surest hits in Vienna will be found in the Wiener Stadt und Landesarchiv: Kartei der Fremden,
Ausgeschiedenen, Meldezettel, probate record - but before involving many others I would start at source,
namely with the birth book of Kojetin [assuming they exist] in Prague!

Celia Male - London U.K.


Re: help getting blank ship manifest forms #general

Susan&David
 

Look at the passenger list transcriptions on the Immigrant Ships Transcriber's
Guild web-site <http://www.immigrantships.net/>
You will see detailed explanations of the passenger manifest column headings
covering all periods of interest.

David Rosen
Boston MA

AREACO@... wrote:

Cyndislist.com has blank "Manifest of Alien Passengers" forms (similar in
concept to the blank census forms) that were sent to all foreign ports that had
ship sailing to the USA.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: help getting blank ship manifest forms #general

Susan&David
 

Look at the passenger list transcriptions on the Immigrant Ships Transcriber's
Guild web-site <http://www.immigrantships.net/>
You will see detailed explanations of the passenger manifest column headings
covering all periods of interest.

David Rosen
Boston MA

AREACO@... wrote:

Cyndislist.com has blank "Manifest of Alien Passengers" forms (similar in
concept to the blank census forms) that were sent to all foreign ports that had
ship sailing to the USA.


LEIBOWITZ Family New York #general

Paul Cheifitz <pcheifitz@...>
 

Greetings all,

I'm searching for descendants of a LEIBOWITZ family who lived in New York City.
They appear in all the Federal Censuses 1900-1930.

The parents were:
Rubin LEIBOWITZ, a tailor, born in Russia, in 1865, died in New York, 11 Feb 1931.
He was married in Russia in 1888 to: Dora (Shifra Dvora) HAIFER (HEIFER or GEYFER), born Russia 1865, died New
York, 19 Sep 1952. Dora's family were >from Siauliai (Shavel) in Lithuania.
I have a photo of Ruben and Dora's gravestone at Ozone Park.

Their children were:
1. Joseph LE BOW or LEBOW, born Manhattan 1891. Jow was an electrician. In 1917 he
was living in Sauk Rapids, Minnesota and was married. By 1920 he was back in New
York and single. He remarried in 1922 to Hattie Weiss. Joseph and Hattie are buried
in Union Field Cemetery dying on 28 Jul 1969 and 22 Apr 1960 respectively. The
inscription on Joseph's stone does not indicate whether he had any family. Hattie
Weiss was the daughter of William and Betty (Minnie) and had siblings Herman,
George, Gertrude, Murray, Max, Bernard and Helen.

2. Anna (or Anita) LEIBOWITZ, born New York 1893. She was bookkeeper. Her
whereabouts after 1930 are unknown.
3. Victor Le Bow or Lebow, born Brooklyn 1898. He was associated with the Ringling
Circus and according to the Social Security Death Index died in Brooklyn in 1973.
4. Julia (Vivian or Jean), born Brooklyn 1905. Operator of a Dictaphone in 1930.
Her whereabouts after 1930 are unknown.
5. Lawrence (Laurence or Larry) Leibowitz, born Brooklyn 1910. Family legend states
that he married. According to the Social Security Death Index he died in 1969.
6. There were 4 other children who died young, Samuel and Lillie among them.

I am at a loss as to how to trace this family further and would greatly appreciate
any suggestions.

With kind regards,

Paul Cheifitz
Cape Town, South Africa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LEIBOWITZ Family New York #general

Paul Cheifitz <pcheifitz@...>
 

Greetings all,

I'm searching for descendants of a LEIBOWITZ family who lived in New York City.
They appear in all the Federal Censuses 1900-1930.

The parents were:
Rubin LEIBOWITZ, a tailor, born in Russia, in 1865, died in New York, 11 Feb 1931.
He was married in Russia in 1888 to: Dora (Shifra Dvora) HAIFER (HEIFER or GEYFER), born Russia 1865, died New
York, 19 Sep 1952. Dora's family were >from Siauliai (Shavel) in Lithuania.
I have a photo of Ruben and Dora's gravestone at Ozone Park.

Their children were:
1. Joseph LE BOW or LEBOW, born Manhattan 1891. Jow was an electrician. In 1917 he
was living in Sauk Rapids, Minnesota and was married. By 1920 he was back in New
York and single. He remarried in 1922 to Hattie Weiss. Joseph and Hattie are buried
in Union Field Cemetery dying on 28 Jul 1969 and 22 Apr 1960 respectively. The
inscription on Joseph's stone does not indicate whether he had any family. Hattie
Weiss was the daughter of William and Betty (Minnie) and had siblings Herman,
George, Gertrude, Murray, Max, Bernard and Helen.

2. Anna (or Anita) LEIBOWITZ, born New York 1893. She was bookkeeper. Her
whereabouts after 1930 are unknown.
3. Victor Le Bow or Lebow, born Brooklyn 1898. He was associated with the Ringling
Circus and according to the Social Security Death Index died in Brooklyn in 1973.
4. Julia (Vivian or Jean), born Brooklyn 1905. Operator of a Dictaphone in 1930.
Her whereabouts after 1930 are unknown.
5. Lawrence (Laurence or Larry) Leibowitz, born Brooklyn 1910. Family legend states
that he married. According to the Social Security Death Index he died in 1969.
6. There were 4 other children who died young, Samuel and Lillie among them.

I am at a loss as to how to trace this family further and would greatly appreciate
any suggestions.

With kind regards,

Paul Cheifitz
Cape Town, South Africa


Re: Something to Ponder #general

Jules Levin
 

Scott Schultz wrote:
... All four of my grandparents were >from what is now present day Ukraine...
they list their country of origin as Russia, which is of course factually
correct since that...was... part of Russia at the time.
First and foremost, I am simply an American since I was born here, but if I
wanted to hyphenate my heritage for some reason, would I be a Russian-American
or a Ukrainian-American?
I think ethnicity usually trumps geography.
In the Russian Empire, Jewish was and is an ethnicity, even more than a religion.
No Jew in Russia would have called himself a Russian or a Ukrainian.

The ethnic terms we apply to Jews are exclusive, e.g., a Litvak can only be a Jew
from "greater Lithuania". In Yiddish an ethnic Lithuanian is a Litvin. And I
suspect that Galitzianer was only used for Jews, not gentiles >from Galitzia.

In view of all this, it is in my opinion equally absurd for a Jew descended >from
"Russian" Jews to call himself a "Russian-American". And "real" Russians would
laugh behind his back if he did.

Two hundred years ago this was true all over Europe. It was the French revolution
that started the notion of French citizens of the Mosaic persuasion, which
gradually spread to other Western countries, Prussia, Italy, etc.

Jules Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Something to Ponder #general

Jules Levin
 

Scott Schultz wrote:
... All four of my grandparents were >from what is now present day Ukraine...
they list their country of origin as Russia, which is of course factually
correct since that...was... part of Russia at the time.
First and foremost, I am simply an American since I was born here, but if I
wanted to hyphenate my heritage for some reason, would I be a Russian-American
or a Ukrainian-American?
I think ethnicity usually trumps geography.
In the Russian Empire, Jewish was and is an ethnicity, even more than a religion.
No Jew in Russia would have called himself a Russian or a Ukrainian.

The ethnic terms we apply to Jews are exclusive, e.g., a Litvak can only be a Jew
from "greater Lithuania". In Yiddish an ethnic Lithuanian is a Litvin. And I
suspect that Galitzianer was only used for Jews, not gentiles >from Galitzia.

In view of all this, it is in my opinion equally absurd for a Jew descended >from
"Russian" Jews to call himself a "Russian-American". And "real" Russians would
laugh behind his back if he did.

Two hundred years ago this was true all over Europe. It was the French revolution
that started the notion of French citizens of the Mosaic persuasion, which
gradually spread to other Western countries, Prussia, Italy, etc.

Jules Levin
Los Angeles


The Tzaddik,Rav Shlomele #general

Andy <arosen2@...>
 

Hey all:

We just completed translating a page >from the Jezierna Yizkor book. (Jezierna was a
Shetyl about 24 KM NE of today's Ternopil, Ukraine). The translation is in English.

It's about the story of The Tzaddik, Rav Shlomele. We know this person lived
because one of the last living survivors of Jezierna tells us about him. We also
believe the Tzaddik's surname was Charap.

Does anyone else know about this man?

FYI, we are happy to email anyone wishing to view the translation. Email me at
arosen2 @ cox.net . Otherwise, kindly respond to us publicly in this forum.

Thank you!

Warmly,

Andy Rosen
Tucson, Arizona
arosen2@...

Charap, Teicholz, Hirschorn, Nagelberg, Barad, Eidel, Stenkritz, Rosenblatt,
Yeager


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Tzaddik,Rav Shlomele #general

Andy <arosen2@...>
 

Hey all:

We just completed translating a page >from the Jezierna Yizkor book. (Jezierna was a
Shetyl about 24 KM NE of today's Ternopil, Ukraine). The translation is in English.

It's about the story of The Tzaddik, Rav Shlomele. We know this person lived
because one of the last living survivors of Jezierna tells us about him. We also
believe the Tzaddik's surname was Charap.

Does anyone else know about this man?

FYI, we are happy to email anyone wishing to view the translation. Email me at
arosen2 @ cox.net . Otherwise, kindly respond to us publicly in this forum.

Thank you!

Warmly,

Andy Rosen
Tucson, Arizona
arosen2@...

Charap, Teicholz, Hirschorn, Nagelberg, Barad, Eidel, Stenkritz, Rosenblatt,
Yeager


help getting blank ship manifest forms #general

AREACO@...
 

Dear Genners,

Cyndislist.com has blank "Manifest of Alien Passengers" forms (similar in concept
to the blank census forms) that were sent to all foreign ports that had ships
sailing to the USA. These manifests were also sent to Canada if the passenger
indicated that the USA was the final destination.The forms are broken down by years

The periods covered were: 1893-1906, 1907-1919, 1919-1925 and post 1925.

I am not that computer savvy and since I cannot open the 1893-1906 URL I need help.

Thanks in advance,

Anita Rosan Arkin
Tarzana, California
searching for: ROSANSKY, Bialystock AGUSHEVITZ, Slonim & Ruzany, ARKIN, Lunna
RASHBAUM, Brody SALBERG & ZENBEK, Warsawa & Manchester, GONIONSKY, Bialystok
ROGOFSKY, Odessa KRUGLIKOFF, Sevastopol


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen help getting blank ship manifest forms #general

AREACO@...
 

Dear Genners,

Cyndislist.com has blank "Manifest of Alien Passengers" forms (similar in concept
to the blank census forms) that were sent to all foreign ports that had ships
sailing to the USA. These manifests were also sent to Canada if the passenger
indicated that the USA was the final destination.The forms are broken down by years

The periods covered were: 1893-1906, 1907-1919, 1919-1925 and post 1925.

I am not that computer savvy and since I cannot open the 1893-1906 URL I need help.

Thanks in advance,

Anita Rosan Arkin
Tarzana, California
searching for: ROSANSKY, Bialystock AGUSHEVITZ, Slonim & Ruzany, ARKIN, Lunna
RASHBAUM, Brody SALBERG & ZENBEK, Warsawa & Manchester, GONIONSKY, Bialystok
ROGOFSKY, Odessa KRUGLIKOFF, Sevastopol


searching LENZ Hosef #general

Isaac Neuman <neuman@...>
 

Searching for Josef LENZ - Germany, possibly immigrated to Switzerland before 1938.
Married Frieda Laufer. Father of Wilhelm LENZ born:June 5th 1921 in Germany.

Thanks

Alfred Isaac Neuman
NEW ZEALAND


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen searching LENZ Hosef #general

Isaac Neuman <neuman@...>
 

Searching for Josef LENZ - Germany, possibly immigrated to Switzerland before 1938.
Married Frieda Laufer. Father of Wilhelm LENZ born:June 5th 1921 in Germany.

Thanks

Alfred Isaac Neuman
NEW ZEALAND


Samokhvalovichi information #belarus

Eric Friedman <derekhbinah@...>
 

Hello all,

Does anyone in the Belarus SIG have information on the shtetl of
Samokhvalovichi, a village just south of Minsk. My Katz family dates
back there to a Gesel Katz in the late 1700s. Any information or
advice would be appreciated!

Eric Friedman
Kfar Saba, Israel
derekhbinah@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Samokhvalovichi information #belarus

Eric Friedman <derekhbinah@...>
 

Hello all,

Does anyone in the Belarus SIG have information on the shtetl of
Samokhvalovichi, a village just south of Minsk. My Katz family dates
back there to a Gesel Katz in the late 1700s. Any information or
advice would be appreciated!

Eric Friedman
Kfar Saba, Israel
derekhbinah@...


Bobruisk Project Fundraising Update #belarus

Sfingold
 

Thanks to all who replied--I heard >from some people via email and I'm hoping
even more people went directly to the JewishGenerosity page to donate.
(http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=1)
Keep the donations coming. We'll get a financial report >from JewishGen at the
end of the month which will tell us how much progress we've made.

Still haven't found a volunteer to help coordinate the project.....Help would
be appreciated.

Thanks also to those of you who corrected my spelling error in the town name.
You can tell it's not a town I'm researching :-) but I learn fast.

Sharon Fingold
sfingold@...
Co-coordinator of the Belarus SIG who is not researching Bobruisk but
is happy for those who are


Belarus SIG #Belarus Bobruisk Project Fundraising Update #belarus

Sfingold
 

Thanks to all who replied--I heard >from some people via email and I'm hoping
even more people went directly to the JewishGenerosity page to donate.
(http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=1)
Keep the donations coming. We'll get a financial report >from JewishGen at the
end of the month which will tell us how much progress we've made.

Still haven't found a volunteer to help coordinate the project.....Help would
be appreciated.

Thanks also to those of you who corrected my spelling error in the town name.
You can tell it's not a town I'm researching :-) but I learn fast.

Sharon Fingold
sfingold@...
Co-coordinator of the Belarus SIG who is not researching Bobruisk but
is happy for those who are


What's New at the Museum of Family History's Yiddish World #yiddish

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings,

Here's what's new in the Museum's Yiddish World:

--The final four chapters of Martin Boris' biography of Yiddish great
Maurice Schwartz, "Once a Kingdom," is now online. Click on the "enter" link
at www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/mschwartz-ok.htm.

--The Fischer Family: Hear a portion of the 1913 recording of the song "Wieg
Lied von Joschke Muzykant" (Lullaby >from Yoshke the Musician), sung in
Yiddish by Liza Barska Fischer, who acted in the Yiddish Theatre in Warsaw
and sadly perished in the Ghetto during the war.
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/lyt-fischer-family.htm

--Some bookstores in the "real world" offer poetry and other literary
evenings where the author or others read >from their works or the works of
others. Within the Museum's new "Yiddish Vinkl Bookstore," you will be able
to read (and hear) works by authors of note. The first presentation are two
short poems written by a famed member of the Yung Vilne literary group named
Peretz Miransky. The short poems are written and spoken in Yiddish. The
virtual bookstore can be found at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/yiddish-vinkl.htm . On this page, you can also
read about two books, one written by Joel Schechter about the Yiddish
theatre, the other a book of poems written in 1940s by Selma
Meerbaum-Eisinger of Czernowitz.
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/yiddish-vinkl.htm

--I recently attended the 12th annual International Association of Yiddish
Clubs conference in La Jolla, California. The theme of the conference was
"Czernowitz: 100 Years Later," i.e. in 1908 the big Czernowitz conference
was held to discuss the future of the Yiddish language. I will be creating
pages with transcripts of many of these talks (with the permission of all),
one of which deals with "melodrama and the Shund." There were other talks
that might be of interest to you all. It will just take time to transcribe
all the talks, etc.

Enjoy. Remember that if you have any material you think might be of interest
to others regarding the Yiddish theatre and vaudeville, please let me know.


Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@...


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre What's New at the Museum of Family History's Yiddish World #yiddish

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings,

Here's what's new in the Museum's Yiddish World:

--The final four chapters of Martin Boris' biography of Yiddish great
Maurice Schwartz, "Once a Kingdom," is now online. Click on the "enter" link
at www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/mschwartz-ok.htm.

--The Fischer Family: Hear a portion of the 1913 recording of the song "Wieg
Lied von Joschke Muzykant" (Lullaby >from Yoshke the Musician), sung in
Yiddish by Liza Barska Fischer, who acted in the Yiddish Theatre in Warsaw
and sadly perished in the Ghetto during the war.
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/lyt-fischer-family.htm

--Some bookstores in the "real world" offer poetry and other literary
evenings where the author or others read >from their works or the works of
others. Within the Museum's new "Yiddish Vinkl Bookstore," you will be able
to read (and hear) works by authors of note. The first presentation are two
short poems written by a famed member of the Yung Vilne literary group named
Peretz Miransky. The short poems are written and spoken in Yiddish. The
virtual bookstore can be found at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/yiddish-vinkl.htm . On this page, you can also
read about two books, one written by Joel Schechter about the Yiddish
theatre, the other a book of poems written in 1940s by Selma
Meerbaum-Eisinger of Czernowitz.
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/yiddish-vinkl.htm

--I recently attended the 12th annual International Association of Yiddish
Clubs conference in La Jolla, California. The theme of the conference was
"Czernowitz: 100 Years Later," i.e. in 1908 the big Czernowitz conference
was held to discuss the future of the Yiddish language. I will be creating
pages with transcripts of many of these talks (with the permission of all),
one of which deals with "melodrama and the Shund." There were other talks
that might be of interest to you all. It will just take time to transcribe
all the talks, etc.

Enjoy. Remember that if you have any material you think might be of interest
to others regarding the Yiddish theatre and vaudeville, please let me know.


Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@...