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Re: Is given name Eyzor/Ozer/Oyzer linked to Ezra? #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

There were three different names: Ezer(Eyzer) like the previous Israeli
President Ezer Weizmann, Ozer and Ezra.

Ezra was rarely used in eastern Europe but was popular among Baghdadi Jews.

"The given name "Ezra" is known in my family >from Ivnitsa. At least one record
in the index shows an "Ejzor" (probably Litvak pronunciation of Oyzer/Ozer,
to rhyme with "razor")".

Jacob Rosen-Koenigsbuch
Jerusalem

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Is given name Eyzor/Ozer/Oyzer linked to Ezra? #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

There were three different names: Ezer(Eyzer) like the previous Israeli
President Ezer Weizmann, Ozer and Ezra.

Ezra was rarely used in eastern Europe but was popular among Baghdadi Jews.

"The given name "Ezra" is known in my family >from Ivnitsa. At least one record
in the index shows an "Ejzor" (probably Litvak pronunciation of Oyzer/Ozer,
to rhyme with "razor")".

Jacob Rosen-Koenigsbuch
Jerusalem

Re: Is given name Eyzor/Ozer/Oyzer linked to Ezra? #general

Gary Mokotoff
 

According to "A Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names" by Alexander Beider,
Eyzor/Ozer/Oyzer is no related to Ezra, but is derived >from the Hebrew word
for "helper."

Gary Mokotoff

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Is given name Eyzor/Ozer/Oyzer linked to Ezra? #general

Gary Mokotoff
 

According to "A Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names" by Alexander Beider,
Eyzor/Ozer/Oyzer is no related to Ezra, but is derived >from the Hebrew word
for "helper."

Gary Mokotoff

Re: Is given name Eyzor/Ozer/Oyzer linked to Ezra? #general

Judith Singer
 

Eyzor, Ozer, and Oyzer are all vernacular (non-Hebrew) versions of the
Hebrew name Ezra - more than just nicknames, but "linked" to the name
Ezra. In JewishGen's Given Name Database, the name Ezra does not
appear alone but as "Ezra demitkari Ozer". I recommend the section of
the Database entitled "Jewish Given Names, 1795-1925" which will be
able to explain the concept of linked names better than I can.

The double-name format would more likely have been Ezra-Eyzor than the
reverse, because the Hebrew name comes first in a double name.

The spelling differences are inconsequential, arising >from the fact
that the names were recorded not just in different languages but in
different alphabets >from the one used in English, plus of course
Hebrew does not have vowels as such.

Judith Singer

From: Stephen Cohen <drstevecohen@...>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017

While searching through the Ukrainian indices on Jewishgen, specifically for
the town Ivnitsa (eastern edge of Volhynia), I came across possible records of
relatives.

The given name "Ezra" is known in my family >from Ivnitsa. At least one record
in the index shows an "Ejzor" (probably Litvak pronunciation of Oyzer/Ozer, to
rhyme with "razor").

Is Ejzor a nickname for Ezra? Is it linked somehow (not just >from the same
"shoyresh"/root spelled ayin-zayin-resh) to Ezra, in the same manner as you
often see "Ayzik-Yitzhak/Itzik)? Would someone likely be named Eyzor-Ezra in
double-name format? Why or why not?
MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen Given Names Database may be found at:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is given name Eyzor/Ozer/Oyzer linked to Ezra? #general

Judith Singer
 

Eyzor, Ozer, and Oyzer are all vernacular (non-Hebrew) versions of the
Hebrew name Ezra - more than just nicknames, but "linked" to the name
Ezra. In JewishGen's Given Name Database, the name Ezra does not
appear alone but as "Ezra demitkari Ozer". I recommend the section of
the Database entitled "Jewish Given Names, 1795-1925" which will be
able to explain the concept of linked names better than I can.

The double-name format would more likely have been Ezra-Eyzor than the
reverse, because the Hebrew name comes first in a double name.

The spelling differences are inconsequential, arising >from the fact
that the names were recorded not just in different languages but in
different alphabets >from the one used in English, plus of course
Hebrew does not have vowels as such.

Judith Singer

From: Stephen Cohen <drstevecohen@...>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017

While searching through the Ukrainian indices on Jewishgen, specifically for
the town Ivnitsa (eastern edge of Volhynia), I came across possible records of
relatives.

The given name "Ezra" is known in my family >from Ivnitsa. At least one record
in the index shows an "Ejzor" (probably Litvak pronunciation of Oyzer/Ozer, to
rhyme with "razor").

Is Ejzor a nickname for Ezra? Is it linked somehow (not just >from the same
"shoyresh"/root spelled ayin-zayin-resh) to Ezra, in the same manner as you
often see "Ayzik-Yitzhak/Itzik)? Would someone likely be named Eyzor-Ezra in
double-name format? Why or why not?
MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen Given Names Database may be found at:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/

ViewMate Polish translation request (MONAT from Warszawa) #general

Andy Monat
 

Hello,

I've posted a birth record on ViewMate in Polish which I would like a
complete translation of:

https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=60956

It is indexed by JRI-Poland as the birth of Josef Hersz MONAT to
Izrael and Ryfka Matla on 23-Dec-1847. It is possible that this Izrael
and Ryfka Matla are the parents of Shmuel Moshe MONAT (aka Sam Monat),
who based on the records I have was born in Warszawa about 1849 to
"Israel" and "Martha", then was a soldier, lived in Petrozavodsk,
Russia, and immigrated to New York City about 1895 where he worked as
a plumber and tinsmith until his untimely death of a heart attack in
1903. If so, then this Josef Hersz MONAT would be Sam MONAT's brother.

Please respond in the ViewMate application. (There was one brief
response at the time of this message, but I believe there is
significantly more information in the record than is mentioned in that
response.)

Thanks,
Andy Monat
Melrose, Massachusetts, USA

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Polish translation request (MONAT from Warszawa) #general

Andy Monat
 

Hello,

I've posted a birth record on ViewMate in Polish which I would like a
complete translation of:

https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=60956

It is indexed by JRI-Poland as the birth of Josef Hersz MONAT to
Izrael and Ryfka Matla on 23-Dec-1847. It is possible that this Izrael
and Ryfka Matla are the parents of Shmuel Moshe MONAT (aka Sam Monat),
who based on the records I have was born in Warszawa about 1849 to
"Israel" and "Martha", then was a soldier, lived in Petrozavodsk,
Russia, and immigrated to New York City about 1895 where he worked as
a plumber and tinsmith until his untimely death of a heart attack in
1903. If so, then this Josef Hersz MONAT would be Sam MONAT's brother.

Please respond in the ViewMate application. (There was one brief
response at the time of this message, but I believe there is
significantly more information in the record than is mentioned in that
response.)

Thanks,
Andy Monat
Melrose, Massachusetts, USA

Holocaust Database: Volunteers Needed #general

Lande
 

Looking for 12 volunteers to help document 6,000 Jewish Holocaust
victims/survivors held at the Wolfsberg sub-camp of Gross Rosen. Each
volunteer would receive 500 names to be typed into an Excel spreadsheet,
with the result to appear on Jewishgen. Material is typed and no language
skills are required. However, if this project is to succeed each volunteer
must have access to Excel and be prepared to complete data entry in a
reasonable time. If interested/willing please reply with a postal address
so that the material can be sent to you.

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Database: Volunteers Needed #general

Lande
 

Looking for 12 volunteers to help document 6,000 Jewish Holocaust
victims/survivors held at the Wolfsberg sub-camp of Gross Rosen. Each
volunteer would receive 500 names to be typed into an Excel spreadsheet,
with the result to appear on Jewishgen. Material is typed and no language
skills are required. However, if this project is to succeed each volunteer
must have access to Excel and be prepared to complete data entry in a
reasonable time. If interested/willing please reply with a postal address
so that the material can be sent to you.

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.

Max WEINSTEIN and Ray ZLACHEVSKY marriage certificate #general

Claudia Kugelmass
 

I have a marriage certificate for Max Weinstein (son of Myer Weinstein and
Jennie ROSENBAUM) and Ray Zlachevsky (daughter of Abraham Zlachevky and Mollie
CHAFTER). This is not the Max Weinstein I've been looking for.

I would be happy to forward the certificate.

Claudia Kugelmass

KUGELMASS, SIMAK, MILLER, MISTISHTER, BRAWER, KOPYTO, CYTROMAN

MODERATOR NOTE: This appears to be a 1916 Bronx, NY marriage certificate.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Max WEINSTEIN and Ray ZLACHEVSKY marriage certificate #general

Claudia Kugelmass
 

I have a marriage certificate for Max Weinstein (son of Myer Weinstein and
Jennie ROSENBAUM) and Ray Zlachevsky (daughter of Abraham Zlachevky and Mollie
CHAFTER). This is not the Max Weinstein I've been looking for.

I would be happy to forward the certificate.

Claudia Kugelmass

KUGELMASS, SIMAK, MILLER, MISTISHTER, BRAWER, KOPYTO, CYTROMAN

MODERATOR NOTE: This appears to be a 1916 Bronx, NY marriage certificate.

Searching RASKIN, FELDMAN, GUTKIN, NAYSTADT or ZAGER families from Polotsk, Vitebsk #belarus

lesliegut
 

Dear Genners,

My grandfather, Mendel Lieb RASKIN (son of Shmuel) arrived in New York in
1910. Later, the same year, his wife Faige (nee URIN), their firstborn son
Samuel, and my grandfather?s brother Rachmael (Raymond) joined him in New
York. All of their arrival manifests have them coming >from Polotsk, Vitebsk
(now in Belarus) and all with the same surname, RASKIN. Between 1912 and
1915 they moved to Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and in that timeframe they
changed the name to REIKEN (pronounced Ray-kin). Rachmael/Raymond?s wedding
certificate records his (and presumably my grandfather's) mother as Mollie
NAYSTADT (unfortunately, this entry is hard to decipher).

My research has revealed a cousin, Mary FELDMAN (>from Polotsk) who lived
with her husband Solomon and their children in Buffalo, NY. Her death
certificate names her father as Louis RASKIN. Another cousin (as confirmed
by her last surviving daughter) was Zelda/Jenny ZLOTKIN/ZLATKIN (nee: GUTKIN
or GOOTKIN), >from Polotsk, who married Hillel/Harry ZLOTKIN. The couple
lived in Toronto. Another cousin, A. ZAGER, was named as my grandfather's
New York contact on his arrival manifest. There may have been still another
cousin, S. Zalman GUTKIN, >from Polotsk, who arrived in Baltimore in 1913 and
named the Buffalo, New York FELDMAN?s (above) as his contact on his arrival
manifest. Thus far, I have been unsuccessful in determining how any of
these cousins may be have been related to my grandfather, my
great-grandparents, or even to each other.

I have had the good fortune in locating my grandmother?s family, URIN/ARON
who lived in Bobruisk, Belarus. As these two towns are 315 km (190 miles)
apart, I suspect, my grandparents may have been introduced by relatives
living in either Bobruisk or Polotsk. The Bobriusk SIG records have not yet
offered any insight, and the few Polotsk records which are currently online,
or which have been identified by a private researcher, offer no tangible
leads to my grandfather?s family.

Through this post, I am hoping to locate others connected to any of the
families, RASKIN (or REIKEN/RAIKIN), FELDMAN, GUTKIN, NAYSTADT or ZAGER who
came >from either Polotsk or Bobruisk. If so, or if you can offer any
suggestions for other research sources, I welcome hearing >from you at:

mailto:lesliegut@....


Thanking you in advance,

Leslie Gut-Reiken, Zurich, Switzerland

Researching: RASKIN/REIKEN, FELDMAN, ZLOTKIN, GUTKIN, URIN(A), NAYSTADT
(all >from Polotsk or Bobruisk, Belarus), SALAMANSKY, SOLOMIANSKY, WIENER,
LITOWITZ (all >from Lida, Belarus or Eisiskes, Lithuania)

Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching RASKIN, FELDMAN, GUTKIN, NAYSTADT or ZAGER families from Polotsk, Vitebsk #belarus

lesliegut
 

Dear Genners,

My grandfather, Mendel Lieb RASKIN (son of Shmuel) arrived in New York in
1910. Later, the same year, his wife Faige (nee URIN), their firstborn son
Samuel, and my grandfather?s brother Rachmael (Raymond) joined him in New
York. All of their arrival manifests have them coming >from Polotsk, Vitebsk
(now in Belarus) and all with the same surname, RASKIN. Between 1912 and
1915 they moved to Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and in that timeframe they
changed the name to REIKEN (pronounced Ray-kin). Rachmael/Raymond?s wedding
certificate records his (and presumably my grandfather's) mother as Mollie
NAYSTADT (unfortunately, this entry is hard to decipher).

My research has revealed a cousin, Mary FELDMAN (>from Polotsk) who lived
with her husband Solomon and their children in Buffalo, NY. Her death
certificate names her father as Louis RASKIN. Another cousin (as confirmed
by her last surviving daughter) was Zelda/Jenny ZLOTKIN/ZLATKIN (nee: GUTKIN
or GOOTKIN), >from Polotsk, who married Hillel/Harry ZLOTKIN. The couple
lived in Toronto. Another cousin, A. ZAGER, was named as my grandfather's
New York contact on his arrival manifest. There may have been still another
cousin, S. Zalman GUTKIN, >from Polotsk, who arrived in Baltimore in 1913 and
named the Buffalo, New York FELDMAN?s (above) as his contact on his arrival
manifest. Thus far, I have been unsuccessful in determining how any of
these cousins may be have been related to my grandfather, my
great-grandparents, or even to each other.

I have had the good fortune in locating my grandmother?s family, URIN/ARON
who lived in Bobruisk, Belarus. As these two towns are 315 km (190 miles)
apart, I suspect, my grandparents may have been introduced by relatives
living in either Bobruisk or Polotsk. The Bobriusk SIG records have not yet
offered any insight, and the few Polotsk records which are currently online,
or which have been identified by a private researcher, offer no tangible
leads to my grandfather?s family.

Through this post, I am hoping to locate others connected to any of the
families, RASKIN (or REIKEN/RAIKIN), FELDMAN, GUTKIN, NAYSTADT or ZAGER who
came >from either Polotsk or Bobruisk. If so, or if you can offer any
suggestions for other research sources, I welcome hearing >from you at:

mailto:lesliegut@....


Thanking you in advance,

Leslie Gut-Reiken, Zurich, Switzerland

Researching: RASKIN/REIKEN, FELDMAN, ZLOTKIN, GUTKIN, URIN(A), NAYSTADT
(all >from Polotsk or Bobruisk, Belarus), SALAMANSKY, SOLOMIANSKY, WIENER,
LITOWITZ (all >from Lida, Belarus or Eisiskes, Lithuania)

Center for Jewish History to host #AskAGenealogist Day on Twitter #general

Moriah Amit
 

The Center for Jewish History is excited to be hosting a Jewish Genealogy Q & A on
Twitter on Wednesday, November 15th, 2017. Staff >from the Center's Ackman and Ziff
Family Genealogy Institute will be answering questions all day on our Twitter,
@cjewishhistory. We are hoping people will tweet using the hashtag #AskAGenealogist,
so we can best find their questions; we encourage you to participate by answering and
asking questions.

Moriah Amit
New York, NY

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Center for Jewish History to host #AskAGenealogist Day on Twitter #general

Moriah Amit
 

The Center for Jewish History is excited to be hosting a Jewish Genealogy Q & A on
Twitter on Wednesday, November 15th, 2017. Staff >from the Center's Ackman and Ziff
Family Genealogy Institute will be answering questions all day on our Twitter,
@cjewishhistory. We are hoping people will tweet using the hashtag #AskAGenealogist,
so we can best find their questions; we encourage you to participate by answering and
asking questions.

Moriah Amit
New York, NY

JGSGB's NOVEMBER EVENTS. RSVPs required #unitedkingdom

Raymond Montanjees
 

Dear Membership,

If you haven't visited our site recently or read our recent Newsletter's
Programme page - here are November's reminders.

Tue 14th 7.30-10pm. At the Chilterns Regional Group session this month,
there will be a talk >from our Chairman Leigh Dworkin. Leigh will present,
"The (Berko)wiczes of East Warsaw" "How US Genealogy can break down your
Polish and UK brick walls". RSVPs to Stan Rose at stan@...
[If you can't make it to the Chilterns on this particular date, then there
will be another chance to hear Leigh's talk at Dec 17th's Eastern European
SIG session]

Thur 16th 7.30-9.00 There will be another of Jeanette's well received and
always welcome, ' Education Evening for Beginners '. Contact Jeanette with
your RSVPs where further details will be given.
@JeanetteRRosenbergOBE

Sun 19th 2.30-5pm Please send your RSVPs to our very own Doreen Berger at
DOREENJGN. Thank you. There will be a talk at this Anglo SIG session >from
Hester Abrams - the Project Development Manager at Willesden (United
Synagogue) cemetery.
Doreen's popular Workshop will follow after the refreshment break, plus
access to our well stocked library in conjunction with the regular monthly
Sunday Library Session. 2-5pm. Phone Lydia Collins at 0203 119 3066

Also on Sun 19th 2-4.30pm. Please RSVP convener Anne Marcus at
avoceta@... for further details of the SE Essex Regional Group's
general Workshop - for all levels. To be held at The Balmoral Centre,
Westcliff Essex.

Wed 29th 7-9.30pm The new Sussex Regional Group will meet to hear convener
Michael Shade present a talk entitled, 'Volunteers, Conscripts and
Conventionists'. Full details and RSVPs to Michael at michael@...

Thank you.

Raymond Montanjees
PROGRAMME COMMITTEE

For details of all our programmes and library opening hours visit the
programme page at http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/programme
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom JGSGB's NOVEMBER EVENTS. RSVPs required #unitedkingdom

Raymond Montanjees
 

Dear Membership,

If you haven't visited our site recently or read our recent Newsletter's
Programme page - here are November's reminders.

Tue 14th 7.30-10pm. At the Chilterns Regional Group session this month,
there will be a talk >from our Chairman Leigh Dworkin. Leigh will present,
"The (Berko)wiczes of East Warsaw" "How US Genealogy can break down your
Polish and UK brick walls". RSVPs to Stan Rose at stan@...
[If you can't make it to the Chilterns on this particular date, then there
will be another chance to hear Leigh's talk at Dec 17th's Eastern European
SIG session]

Thur 16th 7.30-9.00 There will be another of Jeanette's well received and
always welcome, ' Education Evening for Beginners '. Contact Jeanette with
your RSVPs where further details will be given.
@JeanetteRRosenbergOBE

Sun 19th 2.30-5pm Please send your RSVPs to our very own Doreen Berger at
DOREENJGN. Thank you. There will be a talk at this Anglo SIG session >from
Hester Abrams - the Project Development Manager at Willesden (United
Synagogue) cemetery.
Doreen's popular Workshop will follow after the refreshment break, plus
access to our well stocked library in conjunction with the regular monthly
Sunday Library Session. 2-5pm. Phone Lydia Collins at 0203 119 3066

Also on Sun 19th 2-4.30pm. Please RSVP convener Anne Marcus at
avoceta@... for further details of the SE Essex Regional Group's
general Workshop - for all levels. To be held at The Balmoral Centre,
Westcliff Essex.

Wed 29th 7-9.30pm The new Sussex Regional Group will meet to hear convener
Michael Shade present a talk entitled, 'Volunteers, Conscripts and
Conventionists'. Full details and RSVPs to Michael at michael@...

Thank you.

Raymond Montanjees
PROGRAMME COMMITTEE

For details of all our programmes and library opening hours visit the
programme page at http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/programme
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If so, please log in to Members' Corner at
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Chromo browsing #dna

Jeff Miller
 

Still unclear on how to determine >from a chromo browsing which matches are
from maternal families and which are paternal.
When I do a browsing I see two outlines of DNA >from one parent and DNA >from
the second parent- is thee a convention that identifies which parent's DNA
is first and which is second?

Jeff Miller
Maryland
Singingtm@...

DNA Research #DNA Chromo browsing #dna

Jeff Miller
 

Still unclear on how to determine >from a chromo browsing which matches are
from maternal families and which are paternal.
When I do a browsing I see two outlines of DNA >from one parent and DNA >from
the second parent- is thee a convention that identifies which parent's DNA
is first and which is second?

Jeff Miller
Maryland
Singingtm@...