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Rose Feldman
 



Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl


--
Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy


ניסיון לכתוב בעברית

Rose Feldman
 

מכיוון עברית זה בכיוון הפוך מאנגלית בנוסף לפונטים שונים  החלטתי לנסות לפי הבקשה של אפים.  אז סתם אקשקש עכשיו בכדי שההודעה תהיה ארוכה יורתר.  מה שלום כולכם.  כנראה חם בכל העולם. בהולנד ופריז הגיע היום ל-40 מעות.  בברכה
רוז פלדמן

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl


--
Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy


several things

Susan J. Eansor
 

there is not enough information provided by "requests to join" - all we get is an email address.  That is opening us up to spam.

I think there needs to be more information - name and some questions to answer ie what we do with the jewish genealogy portal.

susan


Meetings related to Belarus at the 2019 IAJGS conference #belarus

Paul Zoglin
 

If you are attending the 2019 IAJGS conference in Cleveland there will be
several meetings related to Belarus:

1. Monday, July 29th, 10:45-12:00 in Center Street C: Internationally
acclaimed genealogist Miriam Weiner will speak about her 20+ years of doing
research in Belarus and the Miriam Weiner Archive for Belarus - a unique collection
of records >from Belarus - that are now searchable on the JewishGen Belarus SIG
website. Miriam will also discuss and show the group various resources in her
website (www.rtrfoundation.org) of specific interest to those with Belarus roots.

The JewishGen Belarus SIG luncheon will immediately follow Miriam's talk.
The luncheon is currently sold out. If you don't already have a ticket you
can check the notice board at the conference for anyone selling a luncheon ticket.

2. Monday, July 29th, 1:45 - 3:00 in Center Street C:
The annual JewishGen Belarus SIG meeting.

In addition, there are several meetings for people researching specific Belarus
towns and travel in Belarus:

3. Creating a Shtetl Community: The Friends of Jewish Dokshitsy,
Monday, July 29th, 4:45-6:00 in Hope C

4. Friends of Dokshitsy BOF, Tuesday, July 30th, 10:45-12:00 in Center Street B

5. Journey to Your Past Visiting Your Family's Home Shtetl in Belarus:
Strategies, Tips and Planning: Wednesday, July 31st, 4:45-6:00 in Veterans A

6. Lida/Oshmiany District BOF: Thursday, August 1st, 4:45-6:00 in Superior B

7. Kobryn Uyezd RG: Friday, August 2nd, 10:45-12 in Center Street B

Many other meetings will cover topics relevant to research in Belarus.
Check the conference program for a complete listing:

https://www.iajgs2019.org/program_schedule.cfm

Hope to see you in Cleveland.


Paul Zoglin
JewishGen Belarus SIG Database Coordinator


Belarus SIG #Belarus Meetings related to Belarus at the 2019 IAJGS conference #belarus

Paul Zoglin
 

If you are attending the 2019 IAJGS conference in Cleveland there will be
several meetings related to Belarus:

1. Monday, July 29th, 10:45-12:00 in Center Street C: Internationally
acclaimed genealogist Miriam Weiner will speak about her 20+ years of doing
research in Belarus and the Miriam Weiner Archive for Belarus - a unique collection
of records >from Belarus - that are now searchable on the JewishGen Belarus SIG
website. Miriam will also discuss and show the group various resources in her
website (www.rtrfoundation.org) of specific interest to those with Belarus roots.

The JewishGen Belarus SIG luncheon will immediately follow Miriam's talk.
The luncheon is currently sold out. If you don't already have a ticket you
can check the notice board at the conference for anyone selling a luncheon ticket.

2. Monday, July 29th, 1:45 - 3:00 in Center Street C:
The annual JewishGen Belarus SIG meeting.

In addition, there are several meetings for people researching specific Belarus
towns and travel in Belarus:

3. Creating a Shtetl Community: The Friends of Jewish Dokshitsy,
Monday, July 29th, 4:45-6:00 in Hope C

4. Friends of Dokshitsy BOF, Tuesday, July 30th, 10:45-12:00 in Center Street B

5. Journey to Your Past Visiting Your Family's Home Shtetl in Belarus:
Strategies, Tips and Planning: Wednesday, July 31st, 4:45-6:00 in Veterans A

6. Lida/Oshmiany District BOF: Thursday, August 1st, 4:45-6:00 in Superior B

7. Kobryn Uyezd RG: Friday, August 2nd, 10:45-12 in Center Street B

Many other meetings will cover topics relevant to research in Belarus.
Check the conference program for a complete listing:

https://www.iajgs2019.org/program_schedule.cfm

Hope to see you in Cleveland.


Paul Zoglin
JewishGen Belarus SIG Database Coordinator


Name confusion in genealogy search #belarus

June Genis
 

I recently discovered a strong genetic connection to a family named
Yarkoni based in both Israel and Portugal. The connection appears to
be through a Lena Okun who married a David Griner/Geener. They met at
a Zionist conference in Minsk in 1902. The Geeners changed their name
to Yarkoni when they emigrated to Palestine before WW II. According to
records >from my grandfather Simon Okun his parents were named Abraham
Okun and Lina Susman. I think Lena Okun might be named after Lina
but there is conflicting information in the Yarkoni records.

According to the Yakoni records Lena's parents where Itzhak Avraham
Okun and Leah Okun. My understanding is that Leah and Lena are
essentially the same name with Leah being Hebrew and Lena Russian. So
how could Abraham and Leah have named their daughter Lena without
violating traditional Jewish naming conventions? Their records also
indicate that Lena had a brother named Simon which is the name I have
always known my grandfather by. However the arrival record for
Simon's wife Rebecca who entered through Montreal says that she is on
the way to meet her husband Solomon in St Albans, VT. My aunt
Enta/Anne Okun was born in VT in 1906.

Unfortunately I don't have birth or death dates for anyone besides
Simon who claimed to have been born in Poltava, Ukraine in 1873. The
rest of the Okuns I have found including Lena, hail >from Rogachev,
Belarus. David Griner was apparently >from Bobruisk and engaged in the
Textile trade. The Yarkonis became farmers in Palestine/Israel. A
brother of Lena's, who I believe was named Yaacov, apparently went
with them.

I would appreciate receiving any information that might help me
confirm how Lena Okun is related to me or pointers to other possible
sources of information I believe that I have already made an
exhaustive search of the records on Ancestry.com, Jewishgen.org and
rtrfoundation.org. Apparently there are few surviving records for
Rogachev.

June Genis
Hemet, CA
Researching GENIS, OKUN, ETTINGEAR, KAHANE (Russian Empire)
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply directly to poster.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Name confusion in genealogy search #belarus

June Genis
 

I recently discovered a strong genetic connection to a family named
Yarkoni based in both Israel and Portugal. The connection appears to
be through a Lena Okun who married a David Griner/Geener. They met at
a Zionist conference in Minsk in 1902. The Geeners changed their name
to Yarkoni when they emigrated to Palestine before WW II. According to
records >from my grandfather Simon Okun his parents were named Abraham
Okun and Lina Susman. I think Lena Okun might be named after Lina
but there is conflicting information in the Yarkoni records.

According to the Yakoni records Lena's parents where Itzhak Avraham
Okun and Leah Okun. My understanding is that Leah and Lena are
essentially the same name with Leah being Hebrew and Lena Russian. So
how could Abraham and Leah have named their daughter Lena without
violating traditional Jewish naming conventions? Their records also
indicate that Lena had a brother named Simon which is the name I have
always known my grandfather by. However the arrival record for
Simon's wife Rebecca who entered through Montreal says that she is on
the way to meet her husband Solomon in St Albans, VT. My aunt
Enta/Anne Okun was born in VT in 1906.

Unfortunately I don't have birth or death dates for anyone besides
Simon who claimed to have been born in Poltava, Ukraine in 1873. The
rest of the Okuns I have found including Lena, hail >from Rogachev,
Belarus. David Griner was apparently >from Bobruisk and engaged in the
Textile trade. The Yarkonis became farmers in Palestine/Israel. A
brother of Lena's, who I believe was named Yaacov, apparently went
with them.

I would appreciate receiving any information that might help me
confirm how Lena Okun is related to me or pointers to other possible
sources of information I believe that I have already made an
exhaustive search of the records on Ancestry.com, Jewishgen.org and
rtrfoundation.org. Apparently there are few surviving records for
Rogachev.

June Genis
Hemet, CA
Researching GENIS, OKUN, ETTINGEAR, KAHANE (Russian Empire)
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply directly to poster.


Re: Rules & Guidelins - please comment

Yefim Kogan
 

Avrami,  how about writing a message into another language?  Spanish, Hebrew, Russian, etc.  It is not clear if this is OK to do,  but on Facebook people can do that and use google translate if needed.


Looking for an alternate source for marriages in Stanislawow 1877-1888 #galicia

Steve Jaron
 

Hello Fellow Galitzianers!

So I think I have exhausted my options looking for my 2nd great
grandparents' marriage record in Stanislawow. I found the date of
their marriage in the index that is available through the Gesher
Galicia website which of course is in the range mentioned above which
is not available in any of the regular places.

I have already hired a researcher but he did not find anything as far
as a marriage records goes (I may try again though).

Has anyone had any luck acquiring some form of marriage record in
Stanislawow for this time period and how or where have you done so?

Thanks in advance for any advice and possibly see you in Cleveland!

Steve Jaron
Pittsburgh, PA
sjaron@gmail.com
http://stevejaron.wordpress.com/

ROTHSTEIN - Berezovica Wielke, Tarnopol
KROCHMAL - Zloczow, Tarnopol
GOLDBRUMM - Tarnopol
SASS - Tarnopol
TILLINGER - Zabolotiv, Stanislwow
WACHS - Brody
MOSSLER - Brody


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Looking for an alternate source for marriages in Stanislawow 1877-1888 #galicia

Steve Jaron
 

Hello Fellow Galitzianers!

So I think I have exhausted my options looking for my 2nd great
grandparents' marriage record in Stanislawow. I found the date of
their marriage in the index that is available through the Gesher
Galicia website which of course is in the range mentioned above which
is not available in any of the regular places.

I have already hired a researcher but he did not find anything as far
as a marriage records goes (I may try again though).

Has anyone had any luck acquiring some form of marriage record in
Stanislawow for this time period and how or where have you done so?

Thanks in advance for any advice and possibly see you in Cleveland!

Steve Jaron
Pittsburgh, PA
sjaron@gmail.com
http://stevejaron.wordpress.com/

ROTHSTEIN - Berezovica Wielke, Tarnopol
KROCHMAL - Zloczow, Tarnopol
GOLDBRUMM - Tarnopol
SASS - Tarnopol
TILLINGER - Zabolotiv, Stanislwow
WACHS - Brody
MOSSLER - Brody


Re: Rules & Guidelins - please comment

Errol Genet
 

Hope this works out well for the group. I'll continue to be available for image processing when needed.


Re: Yizkor Book Covers

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
 

Hi Rachel - Your Yizkor Book Project covers are beautiful. Any chance you will be creating one for the Novograd-Volynsk Yizkor Book I am project lead for?

I live just south of you in Erie, Colorado.

Regards,
Ellen Shindelman Kowitt


Re: Help Identifying a Town in Hungary #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

It looks like the name is Gosza, but could also be Yosza... I have checked =
the gazetteers and I think it may be a misspelled 'Jozsa' which is a place =
near Debrecen.
But could the record have been written by a clerk and he wrote what he hear=
d? IF so then as a native speaker I would try to guess what it could have b=
een.

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/historian/private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com


Re: Copies of birth marriage death records #hungary

tom
 

To expand just a little bit on the moderator's comment:

to access films such as lds #642727, you need to sign up (it's free) at www.familysearch.org. that will give you access to the online facilities of the church of jesus christ (aka lds, latter day saints, or mormons), probably the largest collection of genealogical records in the world. they microfilmed a lot of the b/m/d records in greater hungary, and have now digitized much of their collection and put it online.

once logged in to familysearch.org, you can either search by name, or in this case, by film. in the upper right-hand corner there's a drop down menu that includes the option of searching the catalog, which in turn allows searching by place name, or film number. (sometimes film number can be confusing, in which case searching by town name works better.) the films that are available for viewing online display with a camera icon to the right. (some do not, either because they haven't been digitized yet, or because of legal restrictions on their distribution rights.)

when you open a film, it will display in a specialized viewer, which has single-frame and multiple-frame views, zoom, and the option to download pages. some films seem to not have the download feature available (possibly due to browser issues, or more legal snags). for those, you have to make do with what you see. (screen capture is good for easier reference.) once downloaded (or screen captured), you can save or print as required.

both jewishgen and familysearch have indices to the records, but i'm not sure whether they cover the same records, and in any event, there are lots of records that have not yet been indexed, and are only available by looking through the images. (in the case of my ancestral town of tiszaszentimre, there were several couples of childbearing age reproducing at about the same time, so it seems like every page has between one and four familiar names on it, and sometimes even two children in one family in the same year. flipping through those pages was quite rewarding.) and be prepared to do some slogging, as "films" can have many hundreds of page images.


good luck,


....... tom klein, toronto

afriedman21@gmail.com wrote:

I am new with the hungarian sig. Though the index, i have found
family several records that say the source is the slovak state archive
kosice and >from LDS (for example lds 642,727). How do i get a copy of
the original records?


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Help Identifying a Town in Hungary #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

It looks like the name is Gosza, but could also be Yosza... I have checked =
the gazetteers and I think it may be a misspelled 'Jozsa' which is a place =
near Debrecen.
But could the record have been written by a clerk and he wrote what he hear=
d? IF so then as a native speaker I would try to guess what it could have b=
een.

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/historian/private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Copies of birth marriage death records #hungary

tom
 

To expand just a little bit on the moderator's comment:

to access films such as lds #642727, you need to sign up (it's free) at www.familysearch.org. that will give you access to the online facilities of the church of jesus christ (aka lds, latter day saints, or mormons), probably the largest collection of genealogical records in the world. they microfilmed a lot of the b/m/d records in greater hungary, and have now digitized much of their collection and put it online.

once logged in to familysearch.org, you can either search by name, or in this case, by film. in the upper right-hand corner there's a drop down menu that includes the option of searching the catalog, which in turn allows searching by place name, or film number. (sometimes film number can be confusing, in which case searching by town name works better.) the films that are available for viewing online display with a camera icon to the right. (some do not, either because they haven't been digitized yet, or because of legal restrictions on their distribution rights.)

when you open a film, it will display in a specialized viewer, which has single-frame and multiple-frame views, zoom, and the option to download pages. some films seem to not have the download feature available (possibly due to browser issues, or more legal snags). for those, you have to make do with what you see. (screen capture is good for easier reference.) once downloaded (or screen captured), you can save or print as required.

both jewishgen and familysearch have indices to the records, but i'm not sure whether they cover the same records, and in any event, there are lots of records that have not yet been indexed, and are only available by looking through the images. (in the case of my ancestral town of tiszaszentimre, there were several couples of childbearing age reproducing at about the same time, so it seems like every page has between one and four familiar names on it, and sometimes even two children in one family in the same year. flipping through those pages was quite rewarding.) and be prepared to do some slogging, as "films" can have many hundreds of page images.


good luck,


....... tom klein, toronto

afriedman21@gmail.com wrote:

I am new with the hungarian sig. Though the index, i have found
family several records that say the source is the slovak state archive
kosice and >from LDS (for example lds 642,727). How do i get a copy of
the original records?


more about Subotica records #hungary

ericalishahn@...
 

Andras Hirschler has sent me two pages of marriage and birth records >from Subotica which he indexed. but I don't think it's the records >from the Subotica Archives which I visited a few years ago.
I think his set is government vital records.Hungary started civil registration in 1886.
At the Subotica Archive is a set of records made by rabbis going back as early as 1850 or so and there are quite a few records. They include death records but for obvious reasons no birth records and certainly no birth type records for girls but they do have bris records. There are probably about 50 pages of records, although I only took copies of about 6 or 7 which had my family names: Hahn, Buchwald, Basch and Rex which is all I was allowed to have. The Archive was reluctant to let me have anything more.Â
If these records were ever to get indexed there would probably have to be significant negotiation and payment to the Archive.

Erica Hahn

Moderator: Hungary began civil registration in October 1895, not 1886.


Re: Help Identifying a Town in Hungary #hungary

lesliedrewharris@...
 

Thank you to everyone who replied to my initial post.

I uploaded the main page of my grandfather's WWI Draft Registration
Card. You should be able to see it if you follow this link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tmnh34dQr0XPifDysHYylwgCh3VoL23l/view

If you look on line 7 of that card (Father's birthplace), that is
where my grandfather wrote what looks like "Gosza Hungary." I am
assuming that the first letter is a "G," because he has written the
name "Gluck" in two other places on the card, and the initial capital
"G" looks the same in all three instances. His mother's name was
Bleema (Betty) Gluck.

I appreciate help in locating what town that actually was.

Leslie

Moderator: Please respond off-list if you can help.


Hungary SIG #Hungary more about Subotica records #hungary

ericalishahn@...
 

Andras Hirschler has sent me two pages of marriage and birth records >from Subotica which he indexed. but I don't think it's the records >from the Subotica Archives which I visited a few years ago.
I think his set is government vital records.Hungary started civil registration in 1886.
At the Subotica Archive is a set of records made by rabbis going back as early as 1850 or so and there are quite a few records. They include death records but for obvious reasons no birth records and certainly no birth type records for girls but they do have bris records. There are probably about 50 pages of records, although I only took copies of about 6 or 7 which had my family names: Hahn, Buchwald, Basch and Rex which is all I was allowed to have. The Archive was reluctant to let me have anything more.Â
If these records were ever to get indexed there would probably have to be significant negotiation and payment to the Archive.

Erica Hahn

Moderator: Hungary began civil registration in October 1895, not 1886.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Help Identifying a Town in Hungary #hungary

lesliedrewharris@...
 

Thank you to everyone who replied to my initial post.

I uploaded the main page of my grandfather's WWI Draft Registration
Card. You should be able to see it if you follow this link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tmnh34dQr0XPifDysHYylwgCh3VoL23l/view

If you look on line 7 of that card (Father's birthplace), that is
where my grandfather wrote what looks like "Gosza Hungary." I am
assuming that the first letter is a "G," because he has written the
name "Gluck" in two other places on the card, and the initial capital
"G" looks the same in all three instances. His mother's name was
Bleema (Betty) Gluck.

I appreciate help in locating what town that actually was.

Leslie

Moderator: Please respond off-list if you can help.

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