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Center for Jewish History - NYC #general

s_wiener@...
 

It was reported today in the on-line version of the
Jewish Week that the Center for Jewish History - which
houses the YIVO Institute, the American Jewish
Historical Society, the Yeshiva University Museum, the
Leo Baeck Institute and the American Sephardi
Federation - is having financial problems.

As an unparalled source for Jewish reseach documents,
this article may be of interest to members of the
discussion group. It can be found at:
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=12004

I have no commercial interest in the web-site and have
posted this information to the group because of our
direct utilization of many of the works housed there.

Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Center for Jewish History - NYC #general

s_wiener@...
 

It was reported today in the on-line version of the
Jewish Week that the Center for Jewish History - which
houses the YIVO Institute, the American Jewish
Historical Society, the Yeshiva University Museum, the
Leo Baeck Institute and the American Sephardi
Federation - is having financial problems.

As an unparalled source for Jewish reseach documents,
this article may be of interest to members of the
discussion group. It can be found at:
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=12004

I have no commercial interest in the web-site and have
posted this information to the group because of our
direct utilization of many of the works housed there.

Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA


Re: Jaffe family - Rashi descent #general

David Lewin <davidlewin@...>
 

There has always been a belief among the Jews that if they are lucky,
they would give birth to a Mashiach - and he has to be >from the House
of David. There is a tradition that Rashi was - and that is why
every Jew wants to be descendent >from Rashi. This was particularly
so in the 1500 - 1800, but none of it is based on any available proof
or documentation whatever it says on a tombstone.

Look at the late Hans Guenther REISSNER's notes: on our family's
claim to that illustrious descent:

RASHI - Rashi and Maharshal started Yichus letters, passing them down
from father to son. Prof H G Reissner looked into his own family
tree in the 1930's without the help of these letters, the last of
which was burnt in 1900. See the appendix of Anton Lourie's book "Die
Familie Lourie (Louria) Vienna 1923). It cannot be ascertained which
of Rashi's three daughters was our ancestor, as the family tree of
the Maharshal started only about 9 generations later.

Asher Ben-Zev 1.700 :-
Rashi had three sons in Law:
1. Meir Ninio 12909, Tiberias, son of Jacob Sh'altiel 10328
2. Juda bar Nathan Hariben 7036 -> Yomtov Pliza 7932 -> Josef 8028
3. Efraim
It is not known which of them was the husband of which of Rashi's daughters.

Rashi left no sons. Of his three daughters the eldest - Yohebed -
spent the years of her marriage in rural Ramerupt in the Aube valley
north-east of Troyes (which incidentally has 350 inhabitants
nowadays). Her elder son Samuel (1080-1160_ owned a herd of cattle
while he resided at Ramerupt. A younger son Jacob (1100-1171) first
in Ramerupt, later on in Troyes, held vineyards and was engaged in
money-lending and tax farming. A third son, Solomon, took residence
in Dampierre in the Albe valley (with 350 inhabitants at present). A
daughter Miriam moved to Dampierre on her marriage to a husband who
hailed >from Vitry-lo-Brule (750 inhabitants as of now).

Rashi's second daughter - Rachel - was married to one
Eliezer. As their nephew, the above mentioned Jacob, related they
went by the names Jocelin and Belle Asses in their dealings with
Gentiles, presumably financial or commercial business.
Rashi's third daughter - Miriam - married one Yehuda ben
Nathan, a Talmudic scholar of repute; circumstances of his
livelihood are not recorded.

So, in conclusion, I feel strongly that it is wrong to make a claim
of this nature as you are doing.

David Lewin
London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jaffe family - Rashi descent #general

David Lewin <davidlewin@...>
 

There has always been a belief among the Jews that if they are lucky,
they would give birth to a Mashiach - and he has to be >from the House
of David. There is a tradition that Rashi was - and that is why
every Jew wants to be descendent >from Rashi. This was particularly
so in the 1500 - 1800, but none of it is based on any available proof
or documentation whatever it says on a tombstone.

Look at the late Hans Guenther REISSNER's notes: on our family's
claim to that illustrious descent:

RASHI - Rashi and Maharshal started Yichus letters, passing them down
from father to son. Prof H G Reissner looked into his own family
tree in the 1930's without the help of these letters, the last of
which was burnt in 1900. See the appendix of Anton Lourie's book "Die
Familie Lourie (Louria) Vienna 1923). It cannot be ascertained which
of Rashi's three daughters was our ancestor, as the family tree of
the Maharshal started only about 9 generations later.

Asher Ben-Zev 1.700 :-
Rashi had three sons in Law:
1. Meir Ninio 12909, Tiberias, son of Jacob Sh'altiel 10328
2. Juda bar Nathan Hariben 7036 -> Yomtov Pliza 7932 -> Josef 8028
3. Efraim
It is not known which of them was the husband of which of Rashi's daughters.

Rashi left no sons. Of his three daughters the eldest - Yohebed -
spent the years of her marriage in rural Ramerupt in the Aube valley
north-east of Troyes (which incidentally has 350 inhabitants
nowadays). Her elder son Samuel (1080-1160_ owned a herd of cattle
while he resided at Ramerupt. A younger son Jacob (1100-1171) first
in Ramerupt, later on in Troyes, held vineyards and was engaged in
money-lending and tax farming. A third son, Solomon, took residence
in Dampierre in the Albe valley (with 350 inhabitants at present). A
daughter Miriam moved to Dampierre on her marriage to a husband who
hailed >from Vitry-lo-Brule (750 inhabitants as of now).

Rashi's second daughter - Rachel - was married to one
Eliezer. As their nephew, the above mentioned Jacob, related they
went by the names Jocelin and Belle Asses in their dealings with
Gentiles, presumably financial or commercial business.
Rashi's third daughter - Miriam - married one Yehuda ben
Nathan, a Talmudic scholar of repute; circumstances of his
livelihood are not recorded.

So, in conclusion, I feel strongly that it is wrong to make a claim
of this nature as you are doing.

David Lewin
London


Using the British Pound Symbol #unitedkingdom

Louise Messik at JCR-UK <jcr-uk-mod@...>
 

Dear Members

I recently carried out a survey on the JGSGB list as to who is able to =
view
the British pound symbol =A3 and any other unusual characters when the
messages come through having been moderated.

It would appear limited to those who take their messages in the daily =
digest
form. All the others can see it perfectly.

I am in correspondence with JewishGen about this matter.

I apologise to those of you who take the digest. For the time being you
will see unusual characters instead of the normal sign and you will see =
an
equal sign at the end of the row.

If this disturbs you perhaps it would be better to change to normal =
receipt
until such time as this problem is resolved.

Louise Messik
Lead Moderator

=20


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Using the British Pound Symbol #unitedkingdom

Louise Messik at JCR-UK <jcr-uk-mod@...>
 

Dear Members

I recently carried out a survey on the JGSGB list as to who is able to =
view
the British pound symbol =A3 and any other unusual characters when the
messages come through having been moderated.

It would appear limited to those who take their messages in the daily =
digest
form. All the others can see it perfectly.

I am in correspondence with JewishGen about this matter.

I apologise to those of you who take the digest. For the time being you
will see unusual characters instead of the normal sign and you will see =
an
equal sign at the end of the row.

If this disturbs you perhaps it would be better to change to normal =
receipt
until such time as this problem is resolved.

Louise Messik
Lead Moderator

=20


Lithuanian groshes (coins) #belarus

Lee Nydell <lnydell@...>
 

I have seen a reference that in the year of 1626, the Jewish Community sent 1460
Lithuanian groshes (coins) to the government.
Can anyone tell me if this was a little or a lot of money in 1626?

Lee Nydell
Irvine, California, United States
lnydell@yahoo.com
Researching - NADEL, NUDEL, NIEDLE >from Russia, Belarus and Poland


Re: Seeking Yad Vashem submitter Khaim BERG from Israel #belarus

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

Lee Nydell wrote;

Trying to locate a Khaim BERG, who lives in Israel and is a Shoah survivor.
On May 27, 1999 he submitted information to Yad Vashem about members
of his family....
The Yad Vashem reports include addresses of the submitters. By
clicking on the left you could see the original scanned report. Khaim
Berg must be a new immigrant >from Russia to Israel. The report (
including his address near the bottom with numbers) is in Russian.

Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles


Belarus SIG #Belarus Lithuanian groshes (coins) #belarus

Lee Nydell <lnydell@...>
 

I have seen a reference that in the year of 1626, the Jewish Community sent 1460
Lithuanian groshes (coins) to the government.
Can anyone tell me if this was a little or a lot of money in 1626?

Lee Nydell
Irvine, California, United States
lnydell@yahoo.com
Researching - NADEL, NUDEL, NIEDLE >from Russia, Belarus and Poland


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Seeking Yad Vashem submitter Khaim BERG from Israel #belarus

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

Lee Nydell wrote;

Trying to locate a Khaim BERG, who lives in Israel and is a Shoah survivor.
On May 27, 1999 he submitted information to Yad Vashem about members
of his family....
The Yad Vashem reports include addresses of the submitters. By
clicking on the left you could see the original scanned report. Khaim
Berg must be a new immigrant >from Russia to Israel. The report (
including his address near the bottom with numbers) is in Russian.

Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles


Open sources #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

Hi,

For those who trace their roots in Iasi:

1. The Romanian publication: "Studia et Acta Historiae Iudaeorum
Romaniae", vol. 1, Stela Mrie, Imporana Catagrafiei[Moderator Note: signs
for diacritics removed] din anii 1824-1825, p. 51-138.
The article discuss a financial census performed in year 1824-1825 in
Moldova of the suditi - jews under foreign protection. The whole census
is at the Iasi Archives.
But - at the end of the article, there is a long list of hundreds of
names of family heads.

2. Another Romanian publication: "Izvoare si marturii referitoare la
evreii din Romania". Among the thousands of pages (3 volumes, in two
parts each). Vol 3 deals with the 19th century, you may find tables of
names, especially >from Iasi. I also found a table of names >from
Stefanesti, but since all of them are given names only it does not seem
too useful to me.

You may find the books in a good university library. And for no. 1 - You
do not need exactly to know Romanian, an online dictionary will be
enough.

Regards,
Sorin Goldenberg,
Israel
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Romania SIG #Romania Open sources #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

Hi,

For those who trace their roots in Iasi:

1. The Romanian publication: "Studia et Acta Historiae Iudaeorum
Romaniae", vol. 1, Stela Mrie, Imporana Catagrafiei[Moderator Note: signs
for diacritics removed] din anii 1824-1825, p. 51-138.
The article discuss a financial census performed in year 1824-1825 in
Moldova of the suditi - jews under foreign protection. The whole census
is at the Iasi Archives.
But - at the end of the article, there is a long list of hundreds of
names of family heads.

2. Another Romanian publication: "Izvoare si marturii referitoare la
evreii din Romania". Among the thousands of pages (3 volumes, in two
parts each). Vol 3 deals with the 19th century, you may find tables of
names, especially >from Iasi. I also found a table of names >from
Stefanesti, but since all of them are given names only it does not seem
too useful to me.

You may find the books in a good university library. And for no. 1 - You
do not need exactly to know Romanian, an online dictionary will be
enough.

Regards,
Sorin Goldenberg,
Israel
MODERATOR NOTE: Our system cannot "read" diacritical markers such as umlauts, etc..
Please do not use them in future correspondence.


Searching SCHWAMENFELD #general

loufine@...
 

Hi Genners,

Searching for Steven SCHWAMENFELD, son of Jack & Evelyn Schwamenfeld.
I am related to his mother.

Please respond privately

--
Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA
E-mail: loufine@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching SCHWAMENFELD #general

loufine@...
 

Hi Genners,

Searching for Steven SCHWAMENFELD, son of Jack & Evelyn Schwamenfeld.
I am related to his mother.

Please respond privately

--
Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA
E-mail: loufine@comcast.net


HESSEL (Hesel) - BLEIBERG #ukraine

Anita Hasson <hassony@...>
 

Dear Genners !

Looking for HESSEL (Hesel, Gesel) and BLEIBERG
from UKRAINE and/or POLAND.
If anyone has them in his family-tree, please send
me the details - and I shall be glad to exchange
information.


Thanks -
Anita.

*Please reply privately.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine HESSEL (Hesel) - BLEIBERG #ukraine

Anita Hasson <hassony@...>
 

Dear Genners !

Looking for HESSEL (Hesel, Gesel) and BLEIBERG
from UKRAINE and/or POLAND.
If anyone has them in his family-tree, please send
me the details - and I shall be glad to exchange
information.


Thanks -
Anita.

*Please reply privately.


Re: Reference Book on Jews from Posen #poland

David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
 

In response to Geoff Kaiser's request for information on the book by
Heppner and Herzberg the following extract >from
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/PosenResources.html#Heppner
may be of interest.

An excellent resource for information on Jewish communities in specific
towns was written in German at the turn of the 20th century: Aus
Vergangenheit und Geganwart der Juden und der jüd. Gemeinden in
den Posener Landen, nach gedruckten und ungedruckten Quellen. The
book has two parts: a history of
Jews in Posen (about 300 pages) and a history of specific Jewish
Communities in Posen (about 700 pages). A total of 130 communities
are profiled (>from Adelnau to Zydowo). Most of the profiles run
no more than 5 pages, although there are several that are much longer
than that (such as the one for Posen city).

A typical profile goes something like this: when Jews first came to
the town (or received permission to settle there), the terms that
the Jewish community had to abide to for the privilege of establishing
a community, some demographic information (number of households and total
population in given years), names of the communities' Rabbis and officers
of the congregation (or the founders of the congregation), and names of
prominent Jews in the community.

Heppner, Aaron, 1865- and Herzberg, Isaak
Aus Vergangenheit und Geganwart der Juden und der jüd. Gemeinden in
den Posener Landen, nach gedruckten und ungedruckten Quellen.
Koschmin, 1909 [i.e. 1904-29]
CALL NUMBER: DS135 .P62 P64
Also available on 17 microfiches, catalogue no. J-23-112/1, from:
InterDocumentation Company bv
P. O. Box 11205, 2301 EE Leiden
The Netherlands.

Is CALL NUMBER the same as the ISBN ?

regards

David Laufer
Sydney NSW Australia

MODERATOR'S NOTE: A Call Number is the way a book is identified
and shelved in a particular library, usually using a system such as
LC (Library of Congress) shown above, or Dewey. The ISBN number
is an international identifier for a particular book.


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Reference Book on Jews from Posen #poland

David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
 

In response to Geoff Kaiser's request for information on the book by
Heppner and Herzberg the following extract >from
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/PosenResources.html#Heppner
may be of interest.

An excellent resource for information on Jewish communities in specific
towns was written in German at the turn of the 20th century: Aus
Vergangenheit und Geganwart der Juden und der jüd. Gemeinden in
den Posener Landen, nach gedruckten und ungedruckten Quellen. The
book has two parts: a history of
Jews in Posen (about 300 pages) and a history of specific Jewish
Communities in Posen (about 700 pages). A total of 130 communities
are profiled (>from Adelnau to Zydowo). Most of the profiles run
no more than 5 pages, although there are several that are much longer
than that (such as the one for Posen city).

A typical profile goes something like this: when Jews first came to
the town (or received permission to settle there), the terms that
the Jewish community had to abide to for the privilege of establishing
a community, some demographic information (number of households and total
population in given years), names of the communities' Rabbis and officers
of the congregation (or the founders of the congregation), and names of
prominent Jews in the community.

Heppner, Aaron, 1865- and Herzberg, Isaak
Aus Vergangenheit und Geganwart der Juden und der jüd. Gemeinden in
den Posener Landen, nach gedruckten und ungedruckten Quellen.
Koschmin, 1909 [i.e. 1904-29]
CALL NUMBER: DS135 .P62 P64
Also available on 17 microfiches, catalogue no. J-23-112/1, from:
InterDocumentation Company bv
P. O. Box 11205, 2301 EE Leiden
The Netherlands.

Is CALL NUMBER the same as the ISBN ?

regards

David Laufer
Sydney NSW Australia

MODERATOR'S NOTE: A Call Number is the way a book is identified
and shelved in a particular library, usually using a system such as
LC (Library of Congress) shown above, or Dewey. The ISBN number
is an international identifier for a particular book.


Hauschner/Haushner Family Birnbaum/Bresslau #poland

Helen McCaig <helenmccaig@...>
 

I am looking for further information to add to the Hauschner Family
Tree. My great grandmother and great grandfather were Friedereke
Schwarz born 1811 and Jakob Hauschner (?) died Birnbaum (?)
(Miedzychod)/ Friedereke died in Bresslau (Wroclaw). I can't find any
records for Birnbaum which was in Prussia at that time. I have a family
tree that includes their children Marcus b 1840, Herman b1841, Isaac
1850, Gustav 1851. There must have been more children. Another family
member thinks there was a Jacob and a Henrietta. I was looking at
additional pages of testimony and I think Jacob Hauschner was the son of
Henrietta but I now can't find the particular source. Can anyone help?
I think some of Herman's offspring emigrated to South Africa while
other family members emigated to America and Israel. My grandfather
Isaac ended up in Scotland not sure if he was heading for America.

Presumably Hauschner was the name given to the family by the Germans.
It does not seem to be very common. The Avotaynu books of
German/Jewish surnames is not very helpful.

I am also finding it difficult to find where birth certificates would be
held for the family. I visited both Miedzychod, Wroclaw and Poznan last
year and was unable to locate the office that would hold such
documentation.

Any help would be appreciated.

Helen McCaig

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JRI Poland #Poland Hauschner/Haushner Family Birnbaum/Bresslau #poland

Helen McCaig <helenmccaig@...>
 

I am looking for further information to add to the Hauschner Family
Tree. My great grandmother and great grandfather were Friedereke
Schwarz born 1811 and Jakob Hauschner (?) died Birnbaum (?)
(Miedzychod)/ Friedereke died in Bresslau (Wroclaw). I can't find any
records for Birnbaum which was in Prussia at that time. I have a family
tree that includes their children Marcus b 1840, Herman b1841, Isaac
1850, Gustav 1851. There must have been more children. Another family
member thinks there was a Jacob and a Henrietta. I was looking at
additional pages of testimony and I think Jacob Hauschner was the son of
Henrietta but I now can't find the particular source. Can anyone help?
I think some of Herman's offspring emigrated to South Africa while
other family members emigated to America and Israel. My grandfather
Isaac ended up in Scotland not sure if he was heading for America.

Presumably Hauschner was the name given to the family by the Germans.
It does not seem to be very common. The Avotaynu books of
German/Jewish surnames is not very helpful.

I am also finding it difficult to find where birth certificates would be
held for the family. I visited both Miedzychod, Wroclaw and Poznan last
year and was unable to locate the office that would hold such
documentation.

Any help would be appreciated.

Helen McCaig

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for archival or other research may be shared with the list.