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TEMPLEMANN #general

martha <martha@...>
 

Who was looking for the unique name of TEMPLEMANN >from near to Lvov?
I seem to recall a mention of them. I rode up to Yad Vashem with a
seat mate whose maiden name was TEMPLEMANN. Please get in touch
privately if you are interested in particulars.

Martha Lev-Zion, Israel
Re: Finding a cemetery #general

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

The death certificate generally includes the cemetary information and
may include the funeral home. I have some which also list the burial
society. Newer ones list the informant as well. I have several from
NYC and one >from CA. The older ones (circa 1910's and 20's) do not
list the informant, the more recent (1970's and 80's) do. They also
list mother and father, birthdates, last residence, etc., but remember
that is as reported by the informant and may be inaccurate. Marriage
license applications may give you more accurate information about
antecedents, since the info is given by the principals. Naturalization
applications can also be helpful in determining antecedents, spouses
and children. Steve Morse is working on a search tool for these as
well as burials in NYC. I don't recall offhand the exact dates he has
put in the tool so far, but the website gives this information in the
FAQs. I hope this helps. It's gratifying to know I've been useful.

Barbara Sloan
New Haven, CT

--- Sara Lynns <saralynn7@yahoo.com> wrote:

I found "possible" relatives. However, the
information listed does not cite cemetery or funeral
home, relatives listed at time of death, etc.
any "leads" that would be helpful.

do you have any other suggestions?
Jackie Lerner-Aderman

searching LERNER, WENGER
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TEMPLEMANN #general

martha <martha@...>
 

Who was looking for the unique name of TEMPLEMANN >from near to Lvov?
I seem to recall a mention of them. I rode up to Yad Vashem with a
seat mate whose maiden name was TEMPLEMANN. Please get in touch
privately if you are interested in particulars.

Martha Lev-Zion, Israel
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding a cemetery #general

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

The death certificate generally includes the cemetary information and
may include the funeral home. I have some which also list the burial
society. Newer ones list the informant as well. I have several from
NYC and one >from CA. The older ones (circa 1910's and 20's) do not
list the informant, the more recent (1970's and 80's) do. They also
list mother and father, birthdates, last residence, etc., but remember
that is as reported by the informant and may be inaccurate. Marriage
license applications may give you more accurate information about
antecedents, since the info is given by the principals. Naturalization
applications can also be helpful in determining antecedents, spouses
and children. Steve Morse is working on a search tool for these as
well as burials in NYC. I don't recall offhand the exact dates he has
put in the tool so far, but the website gives this information in the
FAQs. I hope this helps. It's gratifying to know I've been useful.

Barbara Sloan
New Haven, CT

--- Sara Lynns <saralynn7@yahoo.com> wrote:

I found "possible" relatives. However, the
information listed does not cite cemetery or funeral
home, relatives listed at time of death, etc.
any "leads" that would be helpful.

do you have any other suggestions?
Jackie Lerner-Aderman

searching LERNER, WENGER
Blackpool Council - SHAFFER #unitedkingdom

Julie Shapero-Rogerson <julibill@...>
 

Researching SHAAFFER

I am looking for as much information as I can about a family "Shaffer", who
I believe came >from Blackpool. Timespan around, very late 1800's to about
1950's or so.

This encompases about 3 generations I think

There was a Jack Shaffer, and I think his wife name was Rika (maiden name
Feldman.)

Other names of family members I beleive should be Anthony, Peter, Brian,
Ben, Fanny, Hyman, Marks, Jane, Morris, Louis. Not to sure of where they all
fit in at this stage. What I do have may not be correct

One of the males I have been told was the Mayor of Blackpool (I would like
to be able to find out if I could also get an email address to contact the
Blackpool Council to find out).

I have been led to believe that Jack SHAFFER was in Real Estate, and his
father in some other bussiness, but am told that whatever it was, he did
fairly well.

Thank you for your assistance
Julie Shapero
South Africa
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Blackpool Council - SHAFFER #unitedkingdom

Julie Shapero-Rogerson <julibill@...>
 

Researching SHAAFFER

I am looking for as much information as I can about a family "Shaffer", who
I believe came >from Blackpool. Timespan around, very late 1800's to about
1950's or so.

This encompases about 3 generations I think

There was a Jack Shaffer, and I think his wife name was Rika (maiden name
Feldman.)

Other names of family members I beleive should be Anthony, Peter, Brian,
Ben, Fanny, Hyman, Marks, Jane, Morris, Louis. Not to sure of where they all
fit in at this stage. What I do have may not be correct

One of the males I have been told was the Mayor of Blackpool (I would like
to be able to find out if I could also get an email address to contact the
Blackpool Council to find out).

I have been led to believe that Jack SHAFFER was in Real Estate, and his
father in some other bussiness, but am told that whatever it was, he did
fairly well.

Thank you for your assistance
Julie Shapero
South Africa
SUSMAN/Manchester, England #general

Lillian B Herzberg <lilibel@...>
 

Now trying to investigate my mother's family. They went to Manchester
(Salford), England in late 1890s or in 1900. Eli SUSMAN, a junk
dealer, was very active as a cantor, I believe in orthodox synagogue.

Lillian Belinfante Herzberg
Re: Mount Hebron cemetery Flushing, Queens, New York #general

HappyGuy <happyguy10101@...>
 

My grandfather is also buried in Mt. Hebron. If anyone can take a photo of
the grave, it would be most appreciated.

Thanks
--
Russ Singer in the Bay Area, CA

searching for:
SINGER - Ukraine, Brooklyn, Bayonne NJ
BAUER, STARK, WANDER - Lviv, Brooklyn, Bayonne, NJ
METZGER - Hannover, New York, New Jersey
MAYER - Lethringen (Lorraine), Freeport NY
HERTZBERG - Riga, Lowell MA, Jersey City
COHEN, SHARPE, UDELOVITCH, LOVETT, BRESTH - Riga, Lowell MA, Nashua NH

"Peter Zimmer" < Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de > wrote:

Dear Genners,

with the help of some of you I was able to find the cemetery where an
ancestor of mine, Henry Lang is buried. He is buried on the Mount Hebron
Cemetery in Queens. I have the block, lineand grave number for him and
for his wife (if she is the right one) and need someone who can visit the
cemetery and take a photo for me and scan it or send it py post.
Hope to hear >from you.
Thanks
Peter Zimmer
Muenster
Germany
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SUSMAN/Manchester, England #general

Lillian B Herzberg <lilibel@...>
 

Now trying to investigate my mother's family. They went to Manchester
(Salford), England in late 1890s or in 1900. Eli SUSMAN, a junk
dealer, was very active as a cantor, I believe in orthodox synagogue.

Lillian Belinfante Herzberg
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mount Hebron cemetery Flushing, Queens, New York #general

HappyGuy <happyguy10101@...>
 

My grandfather is also buried in Mt. Hebron. If anyone can take a photo of
the grave, it would be most appreciated.

Thanks
--
Russ Singer in the Bay Area, CA

searching for:
SINGER - Ukraine, Brooklyn, Bayonne NJ
BAUER, STARK, WANDER - Lviv, Brooklyn, Bayonne, NJ
METZGER - Hannover, New York, New Jersey
MAYER - Lethringen (Lorraine), Freeport NY
HERTZBERG - Riga, Lowell MA, Jersey City
COHEN, SHARPE, UDELOVITCH, LOVETT, BRESTH - Riga, Lowell MA, Nashua NH

"Peter Zimmer" < Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de > wrote:

Dear Genners,

with the help of some of you I was able to find the cemetery where an
ancestor of mine, Henry Lang is buried. He is buried on the Mount Hebron
Cemetery in Queens. I have the block, lineand grave number for him and
for his wife (if she is the right one) and need someone who can visit the
cemetery and take a photo for me and scan it or send it py post.
Hope to hear >from you.
Thanks
Peter Zimmer
Muenster
Germany
How do I? #romania

Arnett <arnett1@...>
 

Can anyone tell me where to start? I know that my Family came fron
Chisineau or a small village not far (by today's standards) >from there. How
do I begin to find out if there names appear on any Census etc.

Lisa


MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to add your city, state
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(www.jewishgen.org/jgff)and to search the same names/
towns there to see if there is someone else who is looking
for them.
Romania SIG #Romania How do I? #romania

Arnett <arnett1@...>
 

Can anyone tell me where to start? I know that my Family came fron
Chisineau or a small village not far (by today's standards) >from there. How
do I begin to find out if there names appear on any Census etc.

Lisa


MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to add your city, state
or country of residence. In this way you can be sure of
receiving more effective guidance. Also, do enter your
names and towns in the JewishGen Family Finder
(www.jewishgen.org/jgff)and to search the same names/
towns there to see if there is someone else who is looking
for them.
Shalom Schwarzbard #southafrica

Bubbles Segall <Bubbles@...>
 

Shalom (Samuel) Schwarzbard (1886-1938) was a Yiddish poet who =
assassinated Petlyura in 1926. He was born in Izmail (Bessarabia) and =
was active in the revolutionary movement of 1905 and organised Jewish =
self-defence during the pogroms. He escaped >from Russia in 1906 anf =
settled in Paris working as a watchmaker. In World War 1 he joined the =
Foreign Legion and was awarded the Crox de Guerre. In 1917 he returned =
to Russia. At Odessa he joined the Red Guard and fought against the =
Cossack followers of Simon Petlyura and his henchman Smessenko who =
carried out pogroms in the Ukraine during the winter of 1919. Fifteen =
of Schwarzbard's own relatives were among the 50,000 Jews massacared. =
He returned to Paris in 1920. His experiences are recorded in his =
autobiography "Inem Loyf Yoren"(1934) He died in Cape Town South =
Africa.

This was taken >from the Encyclopaedia Judaica.

Bubbles Segall
South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Shalom Schwarzbard #southafrica

Bubbles Segall <Bubbles@...>
 

Shalom (Samuel) Schwarzbard (1886-1938) was a Yiddish poet who =
assassinated Petlyura in 1926. He was born in Izmail (Bessarabia) and =
was active in the revolutionary movement of 1905 and organised Jewish =
self-defence during the pogroms. He escaped >from Russia in 1906 anf =
settled in Paris working as a watchmaker. In World War 1 he joined the =
Foreign Legion and was awarded the Crox de Guerre. In 1917 he returned =
to Russia. At Odessa he joined the Red Guard and fought against the =
Cossack followers of Simon Petlyura and his henchman Smessenko who =
carried out pogroms in the Ukraine during the winter of 1919. Fifteen =
of Schwarzbard's own relatives were among the 50,000 Jews massacared. =
He returned to Paris in 1920. His experiences are recorded in his =
autobiography "Inem Loyf Yoren"(1934) He died in Cape Town South =
Africa.

This was taken >from the Encyclopaedia Judaica.

Bubbles Segall
Re: Talsen, Sassmacken, Tuckums material? #latvia #courland

bkramer@...
 

I have done extensive research about the Kramer family >from tuckums. All of
this information is available on the family tree of the Jewish people on
jewishgen.org. I visited tuckums in 1992 and have kept in contact with a
few jews still in Tuckums and have sent not small amounts twice a year to
maintain the cemetery in Tuckums. After your return I would appreciate a
report on the status of the cemetery.

Bernard Kramer

--------Original message--------
From: "Rochelle Kaplan" <rokap@hotmail.com>
To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [courland] Re: Talsen, Sassmacken, Tuckums material?

I plan to visit Riga and Tukums this July; I recently found out I had a
cousin with a farm in Tukums, who died in the early 1930s; I believe he is
buried there. At this point, I have a copy of his passport. I will save
your
address and send you material when I return. Thanks for your efforts.

Rochelle Kaplan
Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: Talsen, Sassmacken, Tuckums material? #courland #latvia

bkramer@...
 

I have done extensive research about the Kramer family >from tuckums. All of
this information is available on the family tree of the Jewish people on
jewishgen.org. I visited tuckums in 1992 and have kept in contact with a
few jews still in Tuckums and have sent not small amounts twice a year to
maintain the cemetery in Tuckums. After your return I would appreciate a
report on the status of the cemetery.

Bernard Kramer

--------Original message--------
From: "Rochelle Kaplan" <rokap@hotmail.com>
To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [courland] Re: Talsen, Sassmacken, Tuckums material?

I plan to visit Riga and Tukums this July; I recently found out I had a
cousin with a farm in Tukums, who died in the early 1930s; I believe he is
buried there. At this point, I have a copy of his passport. I will save
your
address and send you material when I return. Thanks for your efforts.

Rochelle Kaplan
Talsen #courland #latvia

LOUISE HAJDENBERG
 

Below is information pertinent to the Talsen search

Here is an excerpt >from a diary of someone's 1999 trip to Talsen:

What we found in the register office was very interesting though somewhat
disappointing. The registrar told us that Talsi was "full of Thalbergs" -
though she seems to have meant dead ones as there are no more - but she did
not recognise the name Sebba or Zebba. She said that in 1993 at the time of
"denationalisation" many people had come to Talsi to claim property and she
had made a list of Jewish family names - but she didn't know where she had
put it. She thought she might find it again. What she did have was the record
of Jewish births, deaths and marriages >from one parish - Valdemarpils - >from
1890 - 1921, all bound together in one book. The pages were filled in in
Russian on one side (with some witnesses' signatures in German) and Hebrew on
the other. She said she did not have the corresponding records >from any
other parts of Talsi district because they were in Hebrew only and there was
no one who could read them - don't know if this meant they were simply lying
in a box of "unclassified" documents or whether they had been archived
somewhere else.
Further notes say:
Here's the name and address of the Talsi registrar:
Ieva Ratniece
Brivibas Iela 9.-12
Talsi LV-3201
Latvia

Tel. 1-32 24323

I think 32 is the code for
Talsi and 24323 is the local number. That could be her home number - she
wrote it by hand on a printed piece of paper


Sincerely,
Louise Hayden-Hajdenberg
Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Talsen #courland #latvia

LOUISE HAJDENBERG
 

Below is information pertinent to the Talsen search

Here is an excerpt >from a diary of someone's 1999 trip to Talsen:

What we found in the register office was very interesting though somewhat
disappointing. The registrar told us that Talsi was "full of Thalbergs" -
though she seems to have meant dead ones as there are no more - but she did
not recognise the name Sebba or Zebba. She said that in 1993 at the time of
"denationalisation" many people had come to Talsi to claim property and she
had made a list of Jewish family names - but she didn't know where she had
put it. She thought she might find it again. What she did have was the record
of Jewish births, deaths and marriages >from one parish - Valdemarpils - >from
1890 - 1921, all bound together in one book. The pages were filled in in
Russian on one side (with some witnesses' signatures in German) and Hebrew on
the other. She said she did not have the corresponding records >from any
other parts of Talsi district because they were in Hebrew only and there was
no one who could read them - don't know if this meant they were simply lying
in a box of "unclassified" documents or whether they had been archived
somewhere else.
Further notes say:
Here's the name and address of the Talsi registrar:
Ieva Ratniece
Brivibas Iela 9.-12
Talsi LV-3201
Latvia

Tel. 1-32 24323

I think 32 is the code for
Talsi and 24323 is the local number. That could be her home number - she
wrote it by hand on a printed piece of paper


Sincerely,
Louise Hayden-Hajdenberg
Re: jri-pl digest: April 06, 2003 #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

In a message dated 4/7/03 1:02:48 AM, jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Subject: korn/wiener/knobloch >>

In Galicia, if there was only a religious ceremony and not a civil one, a
child born was considered illegitimate (nieslubne) and given the name of the
mother. Sometimes the father would come to the registrar and state that this
was his child, and then the father's name was noted, but the child was still
given the mother's surname.

Sometimes the father reported the birth and his surname was used, then some
clerk got wind of the fact that this wasn't right and went back and
"corrected" the record (recte) and put in the mother's surname everywhere.

On the other hand, sometimes the parents had a civil ceremony long after the
children were born, and then the clerk went back and changed all the surnames
to the father's and wrote "recte," but in that case, they usually noted the
date of the marriage of the parents.

It is sometimes hard to sort out what is what. It is possible that the maiden
name of the mother was Korn, the children were born Korn, the parents were
later married in a civil ceremony and the kids all changed to the father's
name of Wiener. It is possible that the mother, whose maiden name was Korn,
had the same problem, and her father was really Knobloch but her mother's
maiden name was Korn.

You will need to put all the certificates in a line and try to figure out
what is what.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA
JRI Poland #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: April 06, 2003 #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

In a message dated 4/7/03 1:02:48 AM, jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Subject: korn/wiener/knobloch >>

In Galicia, if there was only a religious ceremony and not a civil one, a
child born was considered illegitimate (nieslubne) and given the name of the
mother. Sometimes the father would come to the registrar and state that this
was his child, and then the father's name was noted, but the child was still
given the mother's surname.

Sometimes the father reported the birth and his surname was used, then some
clerk got wind of the fact that this wasn't right and went back and
"corrected" the record (recte) and put in the mother's surname everywhere.

On the other hand, sometimes the parents had a civil ceremony long after the
children were born, and then the clerk went back and changed all the surnames
to the father's and wrote "recte," but in that case, they usually noted the
date of the marriage of the parents.

It is sometimes hard to sort out what is what. It is possible that the maiden
name of the mother was Korn, the children were born Korn, the parents were
later married in a civil ceremony and the kids all changed to the father's
name of Wiener. It is possible that the mother, whose maiden name was Korn,
had the same problem, and her father was really Knobloch but her mother's
maiden name was Korn.

You will need to put all the certificates in a line and try to figure out
what is what.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA
441421 - 441440 of 656202