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SHURIN family #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to reach Moshe Shurin who used to be in Morristown, NJ who lost
his mother recently.
We were in touch before but I have ,lost the contact info.
Thanks

--
Neil Rosenstein

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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic SHURIN family #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to reach Moshe Shurin who used to be in Morristown, NJ who lost
his mother recently.
We were in touch before but I have ,lost the contact info.
Thanks

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.


New to the group. Trying to get started #dna

Ron Miller
 

Hi to the DNA group

I am new to the DNA digest. I have some basic questions.
I submitted my DNA as part of a medical study to 23andme.com. I am still
active in that study by completing various questionnaires. I wrote to them
to see if they had any information that I could use for my genealogical
research. In Nov 2010, 23andme told me I was J1c3-P58 >from my Paternal Y-DNA
and H3 >from my Maternal. Mother's family is >from Minska Geburnia in Belarus.
This is consistent with me being a Cohain. I have traced my male ancestors
back to 1796 to western Galicia (Debica) and believe all the direct male
names had HaCohain appended on them. The family name was MOSTKOWITZ with
alternate spellings of MORDKOWITZ or MORTKOWITZ.
Now I don't see that J1c3-P58 designation any more. I don't know how many
markers they used to determine my Haplogroups or if they use the same
markers as FT-DNA.
Should I ask 23andme for more results or can I request that they send my DNA
analysis to FT-DNA?
Should I request the raw data?
I'm the son that doesn't know what question to ask.
Can someone start me off in the correct direction.

Ron Miller
Long Island NY
Ron@millerus.com


ViewMate Family Photo id requested - Poland early 20th century #general

Karen Wyman <ancestoire@...>
 

Hi Everyone:

I've posted a family photo and welcome some help with identification.

Possible towns are Szczekociny, Jedrzejow, Lodz, Warsaw, or others.
Possible family names are Isralowicz, Koltonski, Wajntrob, Weinfeld,
Dembowski and Abramovitch.

Please take a look if you think you may be able to recognize or offer
any assistance with tracking more about it.

It's located on ViewMate at the following address:=20

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=27094

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many, many thanks!

Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, OH USA


DNA Research #DNA New to the group. Trying to get started #dna

Ron Miller
 

Hi to the DNA group

I am new to the DNA digest. I have some basic questions.
I submitted my DNA as part of a medical study to 23andme.com. I am still
active in that study by completing various questionnaires. I wrote to them
to see if they had any information that I could use for my genealogical
research. In Nov 2010, 23andme told me I was J1c3-P58 >from my Paternal Y-DNA
and H3 >from my Maternal. Mother's family is >from Minska Geburnia in Belarus.
This is consistent with me being a Cohain. I have traced my male ancestors
back to 1796 to western Galicia (Debica) and believe all the direct male
names had HaCohain appended on them. The family name was MOSTKOWITZ with
alternate spellings of MORDKOWITZ or MORTKOWITZ.
Now I don't see that J1c3-P58 designation any more. I don't know how many
markers they used to determine my Haplogroups or if they use the same
markers as FT-DNA.
Should I ask 23andme for more results or can I request that they send my DNA
analysis to FT-DNA?
Should I request the raw data?
I'm the son that doesn't know what question to ask.
Can someone start me off in the correct direction.

Ron Miller
Long Island NY
Ron@millerus.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Family Photo id requested - Poland early 20th century #general

Karen Wyman <ancestoire@...>
 

Hi Everyone:

I've posted a family photo and welcome some help with identification.

Possible towns are Szczekociny, Jedrzejow, Lodz, Warsaw, or others.
Possible family names are Isralowicz, Koltonski, Wajntrob, Weinfeld,
Dembowski and Abramovitch.

Please take a look if you think you may be able to recognize or offer
any assistance with tracking more about it.

It's located on ViewMate at the following address:=20

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=27094

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many, many thanks!

Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, OH USA


No DNA Match to first cousin once removed #dna

Marilyn Silva <marilynsilva32@...>
 

Hi;

I just received my analysis that was done with Ancestry. I am confused
about the matches I have been sent. I have a second cousin that is not
listed and I don't understand why. Her father and I are first cousins.
I know this for a certainty.

Also I know that her husband submitted her DNA, just as I did. I have
another second cousin that has this person on her list. Why would one
of us have her on the list of matches and not another?

Marilyn Silva


DNA Research #DNA No DNA Match to first cousin once removed #dna

Marilyn Silva <marilynsilva32@...>
 

Hi;

I just received my analysis that was done with Ancestry. I am confused
about the matches I have been sent. I have a second cousin that is not
listed and I don't understand why. Her father and I are first cousins.
I know this for a certainty.

Also I know that her husband submitted her DNA, just as I did. I have
another second cousin that has this person on her list. Why would one
of us have her on the list of matches and not another?

Marilyn Silva


ViewMate: photo identification request - Poland, c. 1900-1915 (?) #general

karen.ilyse.wyman@...
 

Hi Everyone:

I've posted a family photo and welcome some help with identification.

Possible towns are Szczekociny, Jedrzejow, Lodz, Warsaw, or others.
Possible family names are Isralowicz, Koltonski, Wajntrob, Weinfeld,
Dembowski and Abramovitch..

Please take a look if you think you may be able to recognize or offer
any assistance with tracking more about it.

It's located on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=27095

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many, many thanks!

Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, OH USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate: photo identification request - Poland, c. 1900-1915 (?) #general

karen.ilyse.wyman@...
 

Hi Everyone:

I've posted a family photo and welcome some help with identification.

Possible towns are Szczekociny, Jedrzejow, Lodz, Warsaw, or others.
Possible family names are Isralowicz, Koltonski, Wajntrob, Weinfeld,
Dembowski and Abramovitch..

Please take a look if you think you may be able to recognize or offer
any assistance with tracking more about it.

It's located on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=27095

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many, many thanks!

Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, OH USA


TRELER or TRILH, Gdynia #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Dror
 

Shalom,
My father's sister was called in Hebrew Batya Basha Treler or Trilh (they
called themselves both forms) during the war or after she changed her name
to Anna Z'linska.
Before the war she lived in Israel until the thirties when she was deported
by the British because of her communist tendencies. During the war she was
a partisan and after the war adopted a son along with her partner. While
the child grew up, he married and had two daughters. The entire family
lived in Gdynia and my aunt had a significant role in the shipyards. Her son
worked there as well and during one of his sailing he defected to Canada.
Basha (Anna Z'linska) died in the early seventies and buried in the city.
I also had a cousin living in southern Poland called Haiim Treler or Trelh,
son of my father's brother who was named Leo - Leibel who perished in the
Holocaust. Haim died in the 90's in Poland. Have had at least one son.
Thanks and Best Regards,
Bella Ezov
Israel
dvi@mh.org.il


ViewMate family photo identification request (c. 1915 Poland) #general

Karen Wyman <karen.ilyse.wyman@...>
 

Hi Everyone:

I've posted a family photo, taken in possibly Warsaw, Lodz or Jedrzejow,
Kielce Gubernia, Poland. Probably early 20th century.

(Possible family names are Koltonski, Dembowska or Isralowicz.)

Please take a look if you think you may be able to recognize or offer
any assistance with tracking more about it.

It's located on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=27096

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many, many thanks!

Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, OH USA


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland TRELER or TRILH, Gdynia #gdansk #germany #poland #danzig

Dror
 

Shalom,
My father's sister was called in Hebrew Batya Basha Treler or Trilh (they
called themselves both forms) during the war or after she changed her name
to Anna Z'linska.
Before the war she lived in Israel until the thirties when she was deported
by the British because of her communist tendencies. During the war she was
a partisan and after the war adopted a son along with her partner. While
the child grew up, he married and had two daughters. The entire family
lived in Gdynia and my aunt had a significant role in the shipyards. Her son
worked there as well and during one of his sailing he defected to Canada.
Basha (Anna Z'linska) died in the early seventies and buried in the city.
I also had a cousin living in southern Poland called Haiim Treler or Trelh,
son of my father's brother who was named Leo - Leibel who perished in the
Holocaust. Haim died in the 90's in Poland. Have had at least one son.
Thanks and Best Regards,
Bella Ezov
Israel
dvi@mh.org.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate family photo identification request (c. 1915 Poland) #general

Karen Wyman <karen.ilyse.wyman@...>
 

Hi Everyone:

I've posted a family photo, taken in possibly Warsaw, Lodz or Jedrzejow,
Kielce Gubernia, Poland. Probably early 20th century.

(Possible family names are Koltonski, Dembowska or Isralowicz.)

Please take a look if you think you may be able to recognize or offer
any assistance with tracking more about it.

It's located on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=27096

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Many, many thanks!

Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, OH USA


Rene Morice- Paris-1939 #general

Alan Mandl
 

I am seeking information on Rene Morice, who was
connected to a business,Jenebel, located at 46 Avenue Simon
Bolivar in Paris, France, as of March 1939.

My father George Mandl crossed the border >from Bardonecchia, Italy
to Modane, France on February 28, 1939, and sailed >from Bordeaux
to Havana on March 14, 1939. On March 7, 1939, Rene Morice
wrote a "to whom it may concern" letter, stamped by the local police,
indicating that my father, Monsieur Dott. Giorgio Mandl, assisted
in the Institute of Beauty Jenebel. My understanding is that one traveling
by train >from Modane to Bordeaux at that time likely would have
passed through Paris.

Any information about Rene Morice would be appreciated.
Also, why would this type of a "to whom it may concern"
letter have been written by Morice and stamped by the police?
Did Jews in transit at this time have limited rights to be in France
and in need of a cover?

Jenebel still exists in Paris, associated with a Francoise Morice,
at Rue Francois. I contacted this outfit awhile ago and received no
response. I would be glad to email a copy of the "to whom it may concern"
letter to anyone who may help.

Alan Mandl
Wayland, MA
Member of H-Sig


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rene Morice- Paris-1939 #general

Alan Mandl
 

I am seeking information on Rene Morice, who was
connected to a business,Jenebel, located at 46 Avenue Simon
Bolivar in Paris, France, as of March 1939.

My father George Mandl crossed the border >from Bardonecchia, Italy
to Modane, France on February 28, 1939, and sailed >from Bordeaux
to Havana on March 14, 1939. On March 7, 1939, Rene Morice
wrote a "to whom it may concern" letter, stamped by the local police,
indicating that my father, Monsieur Dott. Giorgio Mandl, assisted
in the Institute of Beauty Jenebel. My understanding is that one traveling
by train >from Modane to Bordeaux at that time likely would have
passed through Paris.

Any information about Rene Morice would be appreciated.
Also, why would this type of a "to whom it may concern"
letter have been written by Morice and stamped by the police?
Did Jews in transit at this time have limited rights to be in France
and in need of a cover?

Jenebel still exists in Paris, associated with a Francoise Morice,
at Rue Francois. I contacted this outfit awhile ago and received no
response. I would be glad to email a copy of the "to whom it may concern"
letter to anyone who may help.

Alan Mandl
Wayland, MA
Member of H-Sig


Suicide in Family History #general

Matt Friedman
 

Davida Noyek Handler asked about the repercussions of noting a suicide
within a family tree. I would urge her to include it. Family history
is family history and there are valuable insights that can be learned
from difficult circumstances. In the past generation we have witnessed
people being more open to discussing many topics including cancer,
mental illness and genetically transmitted diseases. All of these items
have genetic factors The knowledge that certain attributes are present
in a family line provide clues for treatment and prevention. In addition
our reaction to these conditions have shifted >from fear and even scorn
to treatment and support.

However, suicide is more of a challenge. Jewish tradition rejects suicide
and indeed denies honors to one who has committed suicide. Despite this fact,
does Judaism always follow the "letter of the law?" As a rabbi I have
officiated over several funerals for suicides and been present at others.
I have viewed these suicides as the outcomes of mental illness or effects
of medication. (For those interested in greater details regarding my
reasoning, please contact me for a more extensive discussion off-line.)
Providing full honors, while not concealing the cause of death, has been a
healing event for family members and friends.

from a family history perspective the inclusion of suicide, like other
details of family history, can provide information that could be invaluable
in ways that are not known at the present. We do not know what questions
we, or future generations, will have. We do not know what advances in science,
psychology or even sociology will take place that would find this information
to be valuable.

As family historians our interest has always been more than names and dates.
The inclusion of a death by suicide in a family history is an important fact.

Matt Friedman
Sacramento, California, USA

Horodenka, Jasienow Polny: FRIEDMAN, MANN
Raczki: LITVANOVSKY (and variants), Barnett


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Suicide in Family History #general

Matt Friedman
 

Davida Noyek Handler asked about the repercussions of noting a suicide
within a family tree. I would urge her to include it. Family history
is family history and there are valuable insights that can be learned
from difficult circumstances. In the past generation we have witnessed
people being more open to discussing many topics including cancer,
mental illness and genetically transmitted diseases. All of these items
have genetic factors The knowledge that certain attributes are present
in a family line provide clues for treatment and prevention. In addition
our reaction to these conditions have shifted >from fear and even scorn
to treatment and support.

However, suicide is more of a challenge. Jewish tradition rejects suicide
and indeed denies honors to one who has committed suicide. Despite this fact,
does Judaism always follow the "letter of the law?" As a rabbi I have
officiated over several funerals for suicides and been present at others.
I have viewed these suicides as the outcomes of mental illness or effects
of medication. (For those interested in greater details regarding my
reasoning, please contact me for a more extensive discussion off-line.)
Providing full honors, while not concealing the cause of death, has been a
healing event for family members and friends.

from a family history perspective the inclusion of suicide, like other
details of family history, can provide information that could be invaluable
in ways that are not known at the present. We do not know what questions
we, or future generations, will have. We do not know what advances in science,
psychology or even sociology will take place that would find this information
to be valuable.

As family historians our interest has always been more than names and dates.
The inclusion of a death by suicide in a family history is an important fact.

Matt Friedman
Sacramento, California, USA

Horodenka, Jasienow Polny: FRIEDMAN, MANN
Raczki: LITVANOVSKY (and variants), Barnett


Viewmate Translation Request - Polish to English #galicia

Jonathan Levine <jlevine66@...>
 

Hello -

I recently located Drohobycz birth records for my great-grandmother
and her brother on the Poland JRI. The original documents seem to
include the name of the maternal grandparents (Juda Wolf & Rachel
Kumeldorfer). I am trying to determine of the paternal grandparents'
names are also included (the parents of Schloma Abraham Weiss).

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27130

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27131

Thank you, in advance, for any help you can provide!

Jonathan Levine
New York, NY
jlevine66@gmail.com

Researching: KUMELDORFER (KIMELDORF), WEISS, ZWANGSHEIM, LINK,
LOW, FISCHER, AUFSEHR, INSELMAN, SILBERSCHLAG & SOBEL >from
Drogobych & Borislav


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Viewmate Translation Request - Polish to English #galicia

Jonathan Levine <jlevine66@...>
 

Hello -

I recently located Drohobycz birth records for my great-grandmother
and her brother on the Poland JRI. The original documents seem to
include the name of the maternal grandparents (Juda Wolf & Rachel
Kumeldorfer). I am trying to determine of the paternal grandparents'
names are also included (the parents of Schloma Abraham Weiss).

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27130

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27131

Thank you, in advance, for any help you can provide!

Jonathan Levine
New York, NY
jlevine66@gmail.com

Researching: KUMELDORFER (KIMELDORF), WEISS, ZWANGSHEIM, LINK,
LOW, FISCHER, AUFSEHR, INSELMAN, SILBERSCHLAG & SOBEL >from
Drogobych & Borislav

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