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Re: Mormons Lviv microfilms #galicia

Judy and Gary Floam <gfloam@...>
 

Would the Lviv archives have the records for Brody?

Judy Floam
Baltimore, MD

Looking for SCHWARTZ, FEUERSTEIN (Brody)

Reuven Liebes <reuvel@gmail.com>

from "The Galitzianer" February 2008 issue: "the Mormons have
microfilmed all of the vital record books held in the Lviv archive;
these films are available at the Family History Library in Salt
Lake City, and at your local Family History Centre by special order
for a small fee."
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Search the JewishGen SIG archives at
<http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop>
for the words * Lviv Archive LDS * to see a number of detailed
messages about the new LDS microfilms. A message >from Mark Halpern
on Dec. 3, 2006, listed approximately 60 towns whose records appear
in the 33 rolls of microfilm -- including Brody.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Mormons Lviv microfilms #galicia

Judy and Gary Floam <gfloam@...>
 

Would the Lviv archives have the records for Brody?

Judy Floam
Baltimore, MD

Looking for SCHWARTZ, FEUERSTEIN (Brody)

Reuven Liebes <reuvel@gmail.com>

from "The Galitzianer" February 2008 issue: "the Mormons have
microfilmed all of the vital record books held in the Lviv archive;
these films are available at the Family History Library in Salt
Lake City, and at your local Family History Centre by special order
for a small fee."
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Search the JewishGen SIG archives at
<http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop>
for the words * Lviv Archive LDS * to see a number of detailed
messages about the new LDS microfilms. A message >from Mark Halpern
on Dec. 3, 2006, listed approximately 60 towns whose records appear
in the 33 rolls of microfilm -- including Brody.


Harris Solomon Former Beadle of Bradford Orthodox Synagogue #unitedkingdom

Richard Gilbert
 

I am looking to establish how Harris Solomon was related to my great
grandmother Esther Lustig nee Jacobs/Levy.

Harris married Jane. They had 3 children Amelia, Rebecca & Solly.
According to an Obituary which appeared in the Jewish Chronicle in 1933,
Harris was born in Mlawa, Poland. In 1881 he and Jane were living at 1
Inkhorn Court, London with their children. This would suggest that Solomon
(Solly) was born in or about 1873 and Rebecca in 1880 in Whitechapel. By
1891 Harris and his family were living at 33 Diamond Street, Bradford,
Yorkshire where he was working as a Tailor. I have been unable to find them
on the census for 1901 as no one enumerated at 33 Diamond Street for that
year. The family are also supposed to have lived in New York and then Leeds
before settling in Bradford.

Harris was the beadle at the orthodox synagogue in Bradford for nearly 50
years. When he died his death was reported in the local press as being the
death of the oldest Jew to have died in Bradford. I believe that Jane died
in Bradford aged 56 years in the last quarter of 1909 but was buried in
Leeds.

I am interested in learning more about this couple and their children. One
of their grandsons born to their daughter Amelia, was Bernard Harris who was
a professional footballer in the 1920's 30's.

Richard Gilbert
Bushey Heath, Hertfordshire
(GILBERT, GINSBURG, CHARNAS London, Minsk, Irkutsk - Lambert (London),
Lempert (Kletzk) - Morley (London), MALINSKY (Lodz) - WAND (London),
VANDT/WAND (Plock), LUSTIG (London, Sokal, Zolkiew, Lviv), Schreiber
(London)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Harris Solomon Former Beadle of Bradford Orthodox Synagogue #unitedkingdom

Richard Gilbert
 

I am looking to establish how Harris Solomon was related to my great
grandmother Esther Lustig nee Jacobs/Levy.

Harris married Jane. They had 3 children Amelia, Rebecca & Solly.
According to an Obituary which appeared in the Jewish Chronicle in 1933,
Harris was born in Mlawa, Poland. In 1881 he and Jane were living at 1
Inkhorn Court, London with their children. This would suggest that Solomon
(Solly) was born in or about 1873 and Rebecca in 1880 in Whitechapel. By
1891 Harris and his family were living at 33 Diamond Street, Bradford,
Yorkshire where he was working as a Tailor. I have been unable to find them
on the census for 1901 as no one enumerated at 33 Diamond Street for that
year. The family are also supposed to have lived in New York and then Leeds
before settling in Bradford.

Harris was the beadle at the orthodox synagogue in Bradford for nearly 50
years. When he died his death was reported in the local press as being the
death of the oldest Jew to have died in Bradford. I believe that Jane died
in Bradford aged 56 years in the last quarter of 1909 but was buried in
Leeds.

I am interested in learning more about this couple and their children. One
of their grandsons born to their daughter Amelia, was Bernard Harris who was
a professional footballer in the 1920's 30's.

Richard Gilbert
Bushey Heath, Hertfordshire
(GILBERT, GINSBURG, CHARNAS London, Minsk, Irkutsk - Lambert (London),
Lempert (Kletzk) - Morley (London), MALINSKY (Lodz) - WAND (London),
VANDT/WAND (Plock), LUSTIG (London, Sokal, Zolkiew, Lviv), Schreiber
(London)


Re: Mormons Lviv microfilms #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Reuven Liebes writes:

<>

Unfortunately people living in Israel cannot order LDS microfilms to
be sent to any location there. The only way to access them is to
travel to a country that has a Family History Center where the films
can be ordered, or to arrange to have another researcher look at the
films for you.

Currently, many Galician researchers are involved in ordering these
films and privately indexing names, dates and information contained
therein. As a first step, they are also engaged in creating
inventories to explain exactly what "type" of information is
available on each microfilm roll. One of those inventories, on the
town of Zbaraz, appears in the most recent issue of "The Galitzianer"
as an example for others who may want to order films for their town
and complete an inventory.

Mark Halpern and I are coordinating these projects and templates are
available for those who wish to participate. Please contact me
privately for further information only if you wish to participate in
inventorying or indexing. As soon as inventory lists are ready to be
posted on a website, which should be soon, we will post a
notification to the SIG discussion groups.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Mormons Lviv microfilms #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Reuven Liebes writes:

<>

Unfortunately people living in Israel cannot order LDS microfilms to
be sent to any location there. The only way to access them is to
travel to a country that has a Family History Center where the films
can be ordered, or to arrange to have another researcher look at the
films for you.

Currently, many Galician researchers are involved in ordering these
films and privately indexing names, dates and information contained
therein. As a first step, they are also engaged in creating
inventories to explain exactly what "type" of information is
available on each microfilm roll. One of those inventories, on the
town of Zbaraz, appears in the most recent issue of "The Galitzianer"
as an example for others who may want to order films for their town
and complete an inventory.

Mark Halpern and I are coordinating these projects and templates are
available for those who wish to participate. Please contact me
privately for further information only if you wish to participate in
inventorying or indexing. As soon as inventory lists are ready to be
posted on a website, which should be soon, we will post a
notification to the SIG discussion groups.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Viewmate - People Recognition - Secureni/Sokiryany, Bessarabia #ukraine

Avraham Y. K. <435.gavea@...>
 

If related, please check the picture uploaded on the following link
and see if you do recognize someone.

VM11360 - Picture >from Secureni's Talmud Torah school's board, probably.
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11360

Please reply to 435.Gavea@gmail.com. Remember, any info is relevant.

Thank you,
Avraham Yehoshua Kahana,
Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil

Seeking:
Poland (Zychlin, Wiskitki, Warszawa), Lithuania/Belarus/surroundings:
KANO (KAHANA), SZCZUCZYNIER, SOCHACZEWSKI, SKROBEK, TZUKERKORN,
HORCHSTEIN, RAIDZWILLER
Romania, Moldova (Chisinau[Kishinev], Calarasi[Kalarash]):
GIVERTS, ROSEMARIN, FRAIMAN
Ukraine (Sokiryany[Secureni], Ozeve[Ojeva], Briceva[Brischev]):
SCHECHTMAN, TSIPERSTEIN, BERENSTEIN, KOIFMAN, TRACHTENBERG, VAISENBERG, BARAFF
Romania, Ukraine: BRANDT, SHOIKHET, GUN, LAZAROVITZ


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Viewmate - People Recognition - Secureni/Sokiryany, Bessarabia #ukraine

Avraham Y. K. <435.gavea@...>
 

If related, please check the picture uploaded on the following link
and see if you do recognize someone.

VM11360 - Picture >from Secureni's Talmud Torah school's board, probably.
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11360

Please reply to 435.Gavea@gmail.com. Remember, any info is relevant.

Thank you,
Avraham Yehoshua Kahana,
Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil

Seeking:
Poland (Zychlin, Wiskitki, Warszawa), Lithuania/Belarus/surroundings:
KANO (KAHANA), SZCZUCZYNIER, SOCHACZEWSKI, SKROBEK, TZUKERKORN,
HORCHSTEIN, RAIDZWILLER
Romania, Moldova (Chisinau[Kishinev], Calarasi[Kalarash]):
GIVERTS, ROSEMARIN, FRAIMAN
Ukraine (Sokiryany[Secureni], Ozeve[Ojeva], Briceva[Brischev]):
SCHECHTMAN, TSIPERSTEIN, BERENSTEIN, KOIFMAN, TRACHTENBERG, VAISENBERG, BARAFF
Romania, Ukraine: BRANDT, SHOIKHET, GUN, LAZAROVITZ


Help - Russian translation needed #ukraine

ssroth@...
 

Hello,
I was wondering if any of you out there are able to read these Russian
submitter information tags >from these 3 Pages of Testimony. I am especially
wondering what the relationship words are (son, brother, wife?). I have
posted them on:

Viewmate VM11352
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11352

Viewmate VM11353
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11353

Viewmate VM11354
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11354


Please respond privately. Thanks so much in advance for any help you can
give me.
Sincerely,

Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA
ssroth@pacbell.net

PS - If you know this submitter please let me know!!


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Help - Russian translation needed #ukraine

ssroth@...
 

Hello,
I was wondering if any of you out there are able to read these Russian
submitter information tags >from these 3 Pages of Testimony. I am especially
wondering what the relationship words are (son, brother, wife?). I have
posted them on:

Viewmate VM11352
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11352

Viewmate VM11353
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11353

Viewmate VM11354
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11354


Please respond privately. Thanks so much in advance for any help you can
give me.
Sincerely,

Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA
ssroth@pacbell.net

PS - If you know this submitter please let me know!!


Should my mother take mtDNA or mtDNAPlus test? #dna

Laurence Harris <laurence@...>
 

I am contemplating arranging for my mother to have an MtDNA test or
an MtDNAPlus test using Family Tree DNA. My (maternal) great
grandmother was Jewish with a surname of HOCHMANN (or similar) from
the Czestochowa town/area of Poland. I need to decide which test to
take.

My objective is to link with others with ancestors >from this
town/area who have similar DNA and also to see if there are others
with a HOCHMANN (or similar) surname who have similar DNA.

The MtDNA appears to test the mtDNA of females and the female
lineage of males for HVR1 (16001 to 16569), whereas the mtDNAPlus
tests the mtDNA HVR1 and HVR2 of females and the female lineage of
males, and also verifies possible Native American and African
ancestry.

Given that we are unlikely to have Native American or African
ancestry in recent generations (ie 1750-1950) which are the
generations that I am most interested in, then the main difference
between these two tests appears to be that mtDNAPlus tests HRV2 in
addition to HRV1.

Please could someone explain whether this additional testing of HRV2
is likely to bring any benefits given my objectives which I have
listed above.

Thanks

Laurence Harris
Laurence@LizLo.com
Pinner, Middlesex, England


DNA Research #DNA Should my mother take mtDNA or mtDNAPlus test? #dna

Laurence Harris <laurence@...>
 

I am contemplating arranging for my mother to have an MtDNA test or
an MtDNAPlus test using Family Tree DNA. My (maternal) great
grandmother was Jewish with a surname of HOCHMANN (or similar) from
the Czestochowa town/area of Poland. I need to decide which test to
take.

My objective is to link with others with ancestors >from this
town/area who have similar DNA and also to see if there are others
with a HOCHMANN (or similar) surname who have similar DNA.

The MtDNA appears to test the mtDNA of females and the female
lineage of males for HVR1 (16001 to 16569), whereas the mtDNAPlus
tests the mtDNA HVR1 and HVR2 of females and the female lineage of
males, and also verifies possible Native American and African
ancestry.

Given that we are unlikely to have Native American or African
ancestry in recent generations (ie 1750-1950) which are the
generations that I am most interested in, then the main difference
between these two tests appears to be that mtDNAPlus tests HRV2 in
addition to HRV1.

Please could someone explain whether this additional testing of HRV2
is likely to bring any benefits given my objectives which I have
listed above.

Thanks

Laurence Harris
Laurence@LizLo.com
Pinner, Middlesex, England


Should I take Y-DNA 37 or 67 Marker test? #dna

Laurence Harris <laurence@...>
 

I am contemplating taking a Y-DNA test using Family Tree DNA. My
paternal family surname is SUPOSKY (or similar) probably >from the
Jedwabne (145 km NE of Warsaw, Poland). Consequently, I need to
decide how many markers I should have tested.

My objective is to link with others with ancestors >from this
town/area who have similar DNA and also to see if there are other
with a SUPOSKY (or similar) surname who have similar DNA.

I appreciate that a 67 marker test is likely to provide more
information on which to determine the likelihood of a match in
recent generations compared with a 37 marker test. However, is it
possible to have a 37 marker test first and then upgrade to a 67
marker test later (without taking a new sample)? If so are details
of the fees for a 37 to 67 marker upgrade on any website, and what
is the web page address?

Are many persons undertaking Y-DNA test going to a 67 marker test
first; or are most going for a 37 marker test first and then
upgrading to a 67 marker test as and when it appears to be
appropriate.

Laurence Harris
Laurence@LizLo.com
Pinner, Middlesex, England


DNA Research #DNA Should I take Y-DNA 37 or 67 Marker test? #dna

Laurence Harris <laurence@...>
 

I am contemplating taking a Y-DNA test using Family Tree DNA. My
paternal family surname is SUPOSKY (or similar) probably >from the
Jedwabne (145 km NE of Warsaw, Poland). Consequently, I need to
decide how many markers I should have tested.

My objective is to link with others with ancestors >from this
town/area who have similar DNA and also to see if there are other
with a SUPOSKY (or similar) surname who have similar DNA.

I appreciate that a 67 marker test is likely to provide more
information on which to determine the likelihood of a match in
recent generations compared with a 37 marker test. However, is it
possible to have a 37 marker test first and then upgrade to a 67
marker test later (without taking a new sample)? If so are details
of the fees for a 37 to 67 marker upgrade on any website, and what
is the web page address?

Are many persons undertaking Y-DNA test going to a 67 marker test
first; or are most going for a 37 marker test first and then
upgrading to a 67 marker test as and when it appears to be
appropriate.

Laurence Harris
Laurence@LizLo.com
Pinner, Middlesex, England


Re: Too much mail? #dna

Robert Leiser <robert.leiser@...>
 

On 2008.02.23, Becky Baer <beckybaer@mac.com> wrote:

He did not want to activate the matches on the FTDNA site because he
was afraid of receiving too many emails, so now I am wondering what we
do now with the DNA information?
On 2008.02.23, Bob Kosovsky <kos@panix.com> replied

If I may offer my own opinion, I think this is a grave mistake.
[...]
So I would sugest not to be afraid of being contacted. And even if
people do contact you - isn't it better to share information than to
just sit on it?
I would wholeheartedly agree with this, the two arguments being:

- I have received no unwanted email as a result of making my details
available. Indeed, my only disappointment has been in people who,
having gone to the expense of getting tested and making their
details available, DON'T respond when matches show up

- Surely the whole point of getting the DNA analysis is to enable
you to connect with people? Your results in isolation only give you
some very general information about haplotype. It's only when you
make them available for comparison with other data, *and* make
yourself available to explore any resulting matches that the real
power of this wonderful technique is unleashed.

Bob Leiser


DNA Research #DNA RE: Too much mail? #dna

Robert Leiser <robert.leiser@...>
 

On 2008.02.23, Becky Baer <beckybaer@mac.com> wrote:

He did not want to activate the matches on the FTDNA site because he
was afraid of receiving too many emails, so now I am wondering what we
do now with the DNA information?
On 2008.02.23, Bob Kosovsky <kos@panix.com> replied

If I may offer my own opinion, I think this is a grave mistake.
[...]
So I would sugest not to be afraid of being contacted. And even if
people do contact you - isn't it better to share information than to
just sit on it?
I would wholeheartedly agree with this, the two arguments being:

- I have received no unwanted email as a result of making my details
available. Indeed, my only disappointment has been in people who,
having gone to the expense of getting tested and making their
details available, DON'T respond when matches show up

- Surely the whole point of getting the DNA analysis is to enable
you to connect with people? Your results in isolation only give you
some very general information about haplotype. It's only when you
make them available for comparison with other data, *and* make
yourself available to explore any resulting matches that the real
power of this wonderful technique is unleashed.

Bob Leiser


Re: Is DNA Testing Worthwhile? #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

On 2008.02.23, Marshall Lemer <marshall.lerner@gmail.com> asked:

I am wondering if others have had a similar experience? Can
someone please help me understand why this testing is worthwhile?
Marshall, it's obviously worthwhile if it pays off and produces
needed information or a match with a previously unknown relative.

If it doesn't immediately yield anthing useful, it's in the same
class with all those books and microfilms we searched in vain for
someone who should have been listed--but it had to be done.

Unlike the once-searched books and films, the DNA data remains in an
active database, so a match could occur at any time in the future.

In my own case, with two DNA surname projects, I've had some
successess for myself, and for project participants.

However, I'm still waiting for a 12-marker match with the very first
sample kit I submitted to Family tree DNA in Novemvber 2000, and
numbered under 200. The results came back in only four weeks, and I
was, and still am, quite pleased to have the results as additional
identification item for the elusive and still unknown father of a
great-great grandfather, and the DNA pattern representing him is
there in the company's database, waiting for that matching sample
that could come in at any time.

Donn Devine, CG, CGL
Wilmington, Delaware, USA


DNA Research #DNA Re: Is DNA Testing Worthwhile? #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

On 2008.02.23, Marshall Lemer <marshall.lerner@gmail.com> asked:

I am wondering if others have had a similar experience? Can
someone please help me understand why this testing is worthwhile?
Marshall, it's obviously worthwhile if it pays off and produces
needed information or a match with a previously unknown relative.

If it doesn't immediately yield anthing useful, it's in the same
class with all those books and microfilms we searched in vain for
someone who should have been listed--but it had to be done.

Unlike the once-searched books and films, the DNA data remains in an
active database, so a match could occur at any time in the future.

In my own case, with two DNA surname projects, I've had some
successess for myself, and for project participants.

However, I'm still waiting for a 12-marker match with the very first
sample kit I submitted to Family tree DNA in Novemvber 2000, and
numbered under 200. The results came back in only four weeks, and I
was, and still am, quite pleased to have the results as additional
identification item for the elusive and still unknown father of a
great-great grandfather, and the DNA pattern representing him is
there in the company's database, waiting for that matching sample
that could come in at any time.

Donn Devine, CG, CGL
Wilmington, Delaware, USA


What's a "Huijs Zitten Huijs" in Dutch? #general

Alan Barber <alan_news@...>
 

I'm trying to describe the scene containing the Ashkenazi and Sephardi
Synagogues facing each other across the Muidergracht Canal in Amsterdam
in 1675. (It's at http://beeldbank.amsterdam.nl/ Enter 010094000153 in
the search box. But that's not necessary to answer my question.) Just
beyond the Ashkenazi structure on the left is an imposing building
described in the caption as "Huijs Zitten Huijs." In the description
it's called the same except the three words are run together:
"Huijszittenhuijs." This word is not in my Dutch-English dictionary and
Google's translate function chokes on it. "Huis" or "huijs" is "house,"
and my dictionary gives the verb "zitten" as "to sit," "to be," or "to
be in prison." What is this place? A prison?

Alan Barber


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What's a "Huijs Zitten Huijs" in Dutch? #general

Alan Barber <alan_news@...>
 

I'm trying to describe the scene containing the Ashkenazi and Sephardi
Synagogues facing each other across the Muidergracht Canal in Amsterdam
in 1675. (It's at http://beeldbank.amsterdam.nl/ Enter 010094000153 in
the search box. But that's not necessary to answer my question.) Just
beyond the Ashkenazi structure on the left is an imposing building
described in the caption as "Huijs Zitten Huijs." In the description
it's called the same except the three words are run together:
"Huijszittenhuijs." This word is not in my Dutch-English dictionary and
Google's translate function chokes on it. "Huis" or "huijs" is "house,"
and my dictionary gives the verb "zitten" as "to sit," "to be," or "to
be in prison." What is this place? A prison?

Alan Barber