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Re: Finding Death Certificate #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 5/8/2009 11:08:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mona_morris@... writes:
I am stomped. I have the tombstone picture for Anna Nachema Insky,
died Jun 15, 1913 and is buried in Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY.
I cannot find her listed in the NYC Death Index. Is there another
way of finding out where she died?

^^^
The certificate might be badly filed in New York and the handwriting
might have made indexing difficult. You might try checking the original
microfilm index as opposed to the online version or even the actual
certificates for that date.

But the other possibility is that the person died outside of New York but
was buried at Washington in Brooklyn. You might ask Washington for the
name of the Society and see what if anything they can cell you about the
society -- or maybe some kind people here will help once you have the name.

All my great grandparents are buried at Washington and a lot of family
members as well even though they all lived in New Jersey. For some reason
which I do not know the temple purchased a burial plot in Brooklyn even though
it was established and always operated in Hoboken. There were cemeteries
in New Jersey but they buried all their members in Brooklyn. So maybe your
family was also >from New Jersey but buried in Brooklyn.

Allan Jordan
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding Death Certificate #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 5/8/2009 11:08:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mona_morris@... writes:
I am stomped. I have the tombstone picture for Anna Nachema Insky,
died Jun 15, 1913 and is buried in Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY.
I cannot find her listed in the NYC Death Index. Is there another
way of finding out where she died?

^^^
The certificate might be badly filed in New York and the handwriting
might have made indexing difficult. You might try checking the original
microfilm index as opposed to the online version or even the actual
certificates for that date.

But the other possibility is that the person died outside of New York but
was buried at Washington in Brooklyn. You might ask Washington for the
name of the Society and see what if anything they can cell you about the
society -- or maybe some kind people here will help once you have the name.

All my great grandparents are buried at Washington and a lot of family
members as well even though they all lived in New Jersey. For some reason
which I do not know the temple purchased a burial plot in Brooklyn even though
it was established and always operated in Hoboken. There were cemeteries
in New Jersey but they buried all their members in Brooklyn. So maybe your
family was also >from New Jersey but buried in Brooklyn.

Allan Jordan
SITE CITE - Historic place names in former German territories #germany

andreas.schwab@...
 

A comprehemsive list of historic place names in former German
territories compiled by the (German) Federal Office for Cartography
and Geodesy can be found here:

http://www.geodatenzentrum.de/geodaten/gdz_rahmen.gdz_div?gdz_spr=eng&gdz_akt_zeile=3&gdz_anz_zeile=5&gdz_user_id=0
or
http://tinyurl.com/ckk59t

(Java v. 1.3 or newer is required)

Navigation:
Enter place name under "Find place name".
Use wild card characters ? (one arbitrary character) and * (any number
of arbitrary charactersor none).
Click on "Special characters" for characters with diacritics
("accents"). For umlauts, use simple vowels. However, the German ss
(sz) is not supported. Use a "?" instead.

Add an asterisk at the end of the name. For example, for Koenigsberg,
enter "Konigsberg*" because the former capital of East Prussia is
listed under "Konigsberg (Pr)" (o-umlaut).

Click on "Find"
You can restrict your search to a modern country ("in Staate" (sic),

German country names) or administrative district ("in Administration",

German and non-German entities are selectable).

In the list that appears, click on the name that you guess is the
correct location among several with similar names.
A chronological list of names for the locality appears below.

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, QC. Canada <andreas.schwab@...>
German SIG #Germany SITE CITE - Historic place names in former German territories #germany

andreas.schwab@...
 

A comprehemsive list of historic place names in former German
territories compiled by the (German) Federal Office for Cartography
and Geodesy can be found here:

http://www.geodatenzentrum.de/geodaten/gdz_rahmen.gdz_div?gdz_spr=eng&gdz_akt_zeile=3&gdz_anz_zeile=5&gdz_user_id=0
or
http://tinyurl.com/ckk59t

(Java v. 1.3 or newer is required)

Navigation:
Enter place name under "Find place name".
Use wild card characters ? (one arbitrary character) and * (any number
of arbitrary charactersor none).
Click on "Special characters" for characters with diacritics
("accents"). For umlauts, use simple vowels. However, the German ss
(sz) is not supported. Use a "?" instead.

Add an asterisk at the end of the name. For example, for Koenigsberg,
enter "Konigsberg*" because the former capital of East Prussia is
listed under "Konigsberg (Pr)" (o-umlaut).

Click on "Find"
You can restrict your search to a modern country ("in Staate" (sic),

German country names) or administrative district ("in Administration",

German and non-German entities are selectable).

In the list that appears, click on the name that you guess is the
correct location among several with similar names.
A chronological list of names for the locality appears below.

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, QC. Canada <andreas.schwab@...>
Kornau or Kronau #germany

hannakg@...
 

At the USHMM name registry I found a relative who supposedly returned
from Kornau or Kronau (my notes are not as clear as i would wish). I
gathered tis was a Nazi camp which I had never heard of before and
cannot find listed anywhere.there are places named Kronau in East
Prussia and in Bavaria, places named Kornau in Baden and elsewhere,
but there is no indiction that I can find of there being a camp in any of them.
Can anyone help?

Hanna Grossman, Cornwall CT
German SIG #Germany Kornau or Kronau #germany

hannakg@...
 

At the USHMM name registry I found a relative who supposedly returned
from Kornau or Kronau (my notes are not as clear as i would wish). I
gathered tis was a Nazi camp which I had never heard of before and
cannot find listed anywhere.there are places named Kronau in East
Prussia and in Bavaria, places named Kornau in Baden and elsewhere,
but there is no indiction that I can find of there being a camp in any of them.
Can anyone help?

Hanna Grossman, Cornwall CT
Seek researcher Christian Abendroth #germany

Susan Edel
 

I am looking to contact Christian Abendroth who has done alot of research on
the Jews of Kassel, Germany. The e mail I have for him bounced. Can anyone
please help me? Please reply to me privately. With many thanks

Susan EDEL, Petach Tikva, Israel
researching JAPHET >from Kassel, FEUCHTWANGER >from Fuerth, SCHWAB, Burgpreppach)
German SIG #Germany Seek researcher Christian Abendroth #germany

Susan Edel
 

I am looking to contact Christian Abendroth who has done alot of research on
the Jews of Kassel, Germany. The e mail I have for him bounced. Can anyone
please help me? Please reply to me privately. With many thanks

Susan EDEL, Petach Tikva, Israel
researching JAPHET >from Kassel, FEUCHTWANGER >from Fuerth, SCHWAB, Burgpreppach)
JGS of Greater Philadelphia - May 2009 Meeting #general

Lois Sernoff
 

JGS of Greater Philadelphia - May 2009 Meeting

Date: Monday,May 11, 2009

Time: 7:30 PM

Place: Reform Congregation Keneseth Israel
8339 Old York Road intersection of Old York Road (Route 611)
at Township Line (Route 73) Elkins Park, PA 19027

Topic: Reading Jewish Tombstones

Speaker:Rabbi Gary Gans of Congregation Beth Tikvah, Marlton, NJ

For further information on this and the meetings of our South Jersey
and Delaware County affiliates please visit:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp/

Lois Sernoff [JGSGPhila.]
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Greater Philadelphia - May 2009 Meeting #general

Lois Sernoff
 

JGS of Greater Philadelphia - May 2009 Meeting

Date: Monday,May 11, 2009

Time: 7:30 PM

Place: Reform Congregation Keneseth Israel
8339 Old York Road intersection of Old York Road (Route 611)
at Township Line (Route 73) Elkins Park, PA 19027

Topic: Reading Jewish Tombstones

Speaker:Rabbi Gary Gans of Congregation Beth Tikvah, Marlton, NJ

For further information on this and the meetings of our South Jersey
and Delaware County affiliates please visit:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp/

Lois Sernoff [JGSGPhila.]
Kovno transport of 8 Feb 1942 to Riga Ghetto #lithuania

steve725@...
 

Greetings,

I neglected to mention that in addition to the mention of the Vilna
transport to Latvia, there is also a mention of Kovno ghetto residents
in the Kaufmann book on Latvian Jewry, especially in Part 1.

In part, it states:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On 8 February 1942, more than five hundred Jewish men and women
arrived in the ghetto >from Kovno (Lithuania). They owned practically
nothing and wore the Star of David higher up on their backs than we did.
They told us a great deal about the huge losses of Lithuanian Jews, and
they also told us that thousands of Jews had been killed in the forts of
the castle fortress of Kovno.

The names I noted among them are: Dr. and Mrs. Gerber, Zachar Margolin
and his wife, the veterinarian Dr. Siwianski, the editor J. Kaplan, Dr.
Kronsohn, Anja Gerber, Saca Klebanow and others. I also met a distant
relative of mine, Rabbi Braude (son of the director of the religious
school in Slobodka).

There were many expert craftsmen among the new arrivals: shoemakers,
tailors and so on. They were quartered in some wooden houses in Ludzas
Street and Maza Kalna Street in the ghetto. The women had to go to the
women' s ghetto. I still remember vividly a thin blond retarded boy who
was among the men and came to a sad end. Once Tuchel saw him delousing
himself while working, called him, went with him to the cemetery wall
and shot him there.

The Kovno Jews showed their capability very soon by being the first ones
to begin trading. Shortly after their arrival they were sent to work at an
airfield next to the Kvadrats factory. Although they could not speak the
language at all, they nonetheless managed to form trade connections with
the Aryans there. The first thing they bought and brought into the ghetto
was saccharin. I have to admit that we Latvian Jews were not capable of
doing this. In the beginning they went >from house to house selling it;
but later they sold the things in their rooms, and in time they created
a direct market. I will provide further personal details about them later
on (see the chapter "Men in Women's Roles").

At first we found this trading very strange; but because we realized very
soon that it was useful for our ghetto, we tolerated it.

After the Kovno people had been sent to work alone for some time, they were
gradually merged into our groups, so that we all shared the same fate.

Only a few people >from this Kovno transport survived.

Although the German Jews seemed alien to us >from the first moment on and
remained so. We felt close to the Lithuanian Jews immediately, >from the
first day to the last.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There is probably more in the book about the Kovno ghetto resident transport
within the book, but to find this you'll either have to read the entire book
or do a search in each of the four book parts. Also don't forget the surname
list at the end of the book. Though the list doesn't tell you what page a
name is mentioned, you can always do a search for it as previously stated.

Part 1 can be found at www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/cl-pt1.htm

Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@...
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kovno transport of 8 Feb 1942 to Riga Ghetto #lithuania

steve725@...
 

Greetings,

I neglected to mention that in addition to the mention of the Vilna
transport to Latvia, there is also a mention of Kovno ghetto residents
in the Kaufmann book on Latvian Jewry, especially in Part 1.

In part, it states:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On 8 February 1942, more than five hundred Jewish men and women
arrived in the ghetto >from Kovno (Lithuania). They owned practically
nothing and wore the Star of David higher up on their backs than we did.
They told us a great deal about the huge losses of Lithuanian Jews, and
they also told us that thousands of Jews had been killed in the forts of
the castle fortress of Kovno.

The names I noted among them are: Dr. and Mrs. Gerber, Zachar Margolin
and his wife, the veterinarian Dr. Siwianski, the editor J. Kaplan, Dr.
Kronsohn, Anja Gerber, Saca Klebanow and others. I also met a distant
relative of mine, Rabbi Braude (son of the director of the religious
school in Slobodka).

There were many expert craftsmen among the new arrivals: shoemakers,
tailors and so on. They were quartered in some wooden houses in Ludzas
Street and Maza Kalna Street in the ghetto. The women had to go to the
women' s ghetto. I still remember vividly a thin blond retarded boy who
was among the men and came to a sad end. Once Tuchel saw him delousing
himself while working, called him, went with him to the cemetery wall
and shot him there.

The Kovno Jews showed their capability very soon by being the first ones
to begin trading. Shortly after their arrival they were sent to work at an
airfield next to the Kvadrats factory. Although they could not speak the
language at all, they nonetheless managed to form trade connections with
the Aryans there. The first thing they bought and brought into the ghetto
was saccharin. I have to admit that we Latvian Jews were not capable of
doing this. In the beginning they went >from house to house selling it;
but later they sold the things in their rooms, and in time they created
a direct market. I will provide further personal details about them later
on (see the chapter "Men in Women's Roles").

At first we found this trading very strange; but because we realized very
soon that it was useful for our ghetto, we tolerated it.

After the Kovno people had been sent to work alone for some time, they were
gradually merged into our groups, so that we all shared the same fate.

Only a few people >from this Kovno transport survived.

Although the German Jews seemed alien to us >from the first moment on and
remained so. We felt close to the Lithuanian Jews immediately, >from the
first day to the last.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There is probably more in the book about the Kovno ghetto resident transport
within the book, but to find this you'll either have to read the entire book
or do a search in each of the four book parts. Also don't forget the surname
list at the end of the book. Though the list doesn't tell you what page a
name is mentioned, you can always do a search for it as previously stated.

Part 1 can be found at www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/cl-pt1.htm

Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@...
More on Treblinka and Maly Trostinec transports #austria-czech

celiamale@...
 

Randy Schoenberg wrote: "Our own Hans Peter Grab came up with the only explanation
so far for the change >from Maly Trostinec to Treblinka for Transport Bp. He says
that in 1989 when the Berlin wall fell, German railroad records became available
that allowed researchers to determine that the destination was Treblinka. What
exactly these records were and who made the determination, I don't know yet."

I said half-jokingly to Randy yesterday "they changed the points as the train left
the station". Now I am beginning to think that is what really happened. Who
determined this and why we shall never knew. My comment on under and overcapacity
may not be out of place either. The German railways ran like clockwork and there
was congestion on these tracks too as well as in the camps. They shuffled these
trains around according to spare capacity on the tracks or in the camps.

I do know that when I restored the SCHIFFMANN tombstone in Vienna about seven
years ago, I was told definitely that the destination was now Treblinka. And here
comes the only humorous side to the tragedy. Hermine, who obviously wanted to save
people trouble after her death, had entered her dob on the tombstone followed by
gest. {died}. The stonemason commented that chiseling *Treblinka* on the tombstone
would make it *asymmetrical*. My reply was that she did not plan an asymmetric
death.

Hermine's sister-in-law Else {nee SCHWEINBURG} KERNER was murdered in Izbica. Her
inscription is symmetrical. Else's sister Paula {nee SCHWEINBURG} KERNER was
murdered in Auschwitz - I have not yet found a place for her name, as her husband
Siegfried KERNER was murdered too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cam37/2281317825

Doew tells us that eleven "Altentransporten" took place between 19. September and
22 October 1942 involving 19.004 people mostly over 65. Destination: the
extermination camps of Treblinka and Maly Trostinec.
Only three survived. Hermine SCHIFFMANN and Fanny LEWALD were apparently on the
first transport out - two old widows >from Vienna - who needs them? That applied to
all the rest too.

Celia Male - London, U.K.
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech More on Treblinka and Maly Trostinec transports #austria-czech

celiamale@...
 

Randy Schoenberg wrote: "Our own Hans Peter Grab came up with the only explanation
so far for the change >from Maly Trostinec to Treblinka for Transport Bp. He says
that in 1989 when the Berlin wall fell, German railroad records became available
that allowed researchers to determine that the destination was Treblinka. What
exactly these records were and who made the determination, I don't know yet."

I said half-jokingly to Randy yesterday "they changed the points as the train left
the station". Now I am beginning to think that is what really happened. Who
determined this and why we shall never knew. My comment on under and overcapacity
may not be out of place either. The German railways ran like clockwork and there
was congestion on these tracks too as well as in the camps. They shuffled these
trains around according to spare capacity on the tracks or in the camps.

I do know that when I restored the SCHIFFMANN tombstone in Vienna about seven
years ago, I was told definitely that the destination was now Treblinka. And here
comes the only humorous side to the tragedy. Hermine, who obviously wanted to save
people trouble after her death, had entered her dob on the tombstone followed by
gest. {died}. The stonemason commented that chiseling *Treblinka* on the tombstone
would make it *asymmetrical*. My reply was that she did not plan an asymmetric
death.

Hermine's sister-in-law Else {nee SCHWEINBURG} KERNER was murdered in Izbica. Her
inscription is symmetrical. Else's sister Paula {nee SCHWEINBURG} KERNER was
murdered in Auschwitz - I have not yet found a place for her name, as her husband
Siegfried KERNER was murdered too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cam37/2281317825

Doew tells us that eleven "Altentransporten" took place between 19. September and
22 October 1942 involving 19.004 people mostly over 65. Destination: the
extermination camps of Treblinka and Maly Trostinec.
Only three survived. Hermine SCHIFFMANN and Fanny LEWALD were apparently on the
first transport out - two old widows >from Vienna - who needs them? That applied to
all the rest too.

Celia Male - London, U.K.
Photographs of Vienna's old synagogues #austria-czech

steve725@...
 

Greetings,

I have added a page within my "Synagogues of Europe" exhibition for today's
Austria. Included are photos and short descriptions of nearly two dozen
former Austrian synagogues (most of which once stood in Vienna). More
synagogue photographs are always welcome. The link is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/syn-europe-austria.htm .


Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@...
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Photographs of Vienna's old synagogues #austria-czech

steve725@...
 

Greetings,

I have added a page within my "Synagogues of Europe" exhibition for today's
Austria. Included are photos and short descriptions of nearly two dozen
former Austrian synagogues (most of which once stood in Vienna). More
synagogue photographs are always welcome. The link is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/syn-europe-austria.htm .


Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@...
Map of Lipsko near Radom; location of Jewish community #general

lami@...
 

Does anybody have an old map of Lipsko near Radom?
Has anybody been there lately?
I am trying to trace the family home and have sketchy
directions >from early in the last century. (Family: HACKER)

Lami Mulvey
Edinburgh Scotland
http.www.lamimulvey.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Map of Lipsko near Radom; location of Jewish community #general

lami@...
 

Does anybody have an old map of Lipsko near Radom?
Has anybody been there lately?
I am trying to trace the family home and have sketchy
directions >from early in the last century. (Family: HACKER)

Lami Mulvey
Edinburgh Scotland
http.www.lamimulvey.com
Information on Emma Assa Larsen nee Sheiness #scandinavia

jsheines@...
 

I am interested in any information anyone can provide me on Emma Assa Larsen
nee Sheiness. The only data I find on her is on Ancestry.com. According to
that source she was born in Copenhagen, Denmark on August 27, 1905. She
married Erik Larsen on August 6, 1927, again in Copenhagen.

If you have any information on her, her ancestors, he descendents, etc.
please contact me directly at jsheines@....

Thank you,

Herschel L. Sheiness
Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Information on Emma Assa Larsen nee Sheiness #scandinavia

jsheines@...
 

I am interested in any information anyone can provide me on Emma Assa Larsen
nee Sheiness. The only data I find on her is on Ancestry.com. According to
that source she was born in Copenhagen, Denmark on August 27, 1905. She
married Erik Larsen on August 6, 1927, again in Copenhagen.

If you have any information on her, her ancestors, he descendents, etc.
please contact me directly at jsheines@....

Thank you,

Herschel L. Sheiness
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