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Viewmate translations requested - German
#germany
rickglaser@...
Thank those who help you and support ViewMate, GerSIG and JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ These postings are the last 2 postcards that my father received >from his grandfather and uncles in Hodonin. I would appreciate a transcription and translation >from the German some names that may appear: Heinz, Erich, Simon, Fritz, Hedy http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25680 (two sides) and: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25682 Thanks in advance Rick Glaser Owings Mills MD Thank those who help you and support ViewMate, GerSIG and JewishGen http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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German SIG #Germany Viewmate translations requested - German
#germany
rickglaser@...
Thank those who help you and support ViewMate, GerSIG and JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ These postings are the last 2 postcards that my father received >from his grandfather and uncles in Hodonin. I would appreciate a transcription and translation >from the German some names that may appear: Heinz, Erich, Simon, Fritz, Hedy http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25680 (two sides) and: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25682 Thanks in advance Rick Glaser Owings Mills MD Thank those who help you and support ViewMate, GerSIG and JewishGen http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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VewiMate Transcription - German: letter from father to Kinderstransport children.
#germany
Irene Newhouse
Thank those who help you and support ViewMate, GerSIG and JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I've been asked to transcribe & translate a letter >from a father to his two children, who were able to leave Germany on a Kinderstransport. The penmanship isn't the clearest, and there are words I can't read, which are underllined in red in the images posted on ViewMate. The URLs for the pages are: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26007 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26008 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26009 Thanks for your help! Irene Newhouse Kihei HI USA
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German SIG #Germany VewiMate Transcription - German: letter from father to Kinderstransport children.
#germany
Irene Newhouse
Thank those who help you and support ViewMate, GerSIG and JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I've been asked to transcribe & translate a letter >from a father to his two children, who were able to leave Germany on a Kinderstransport. The penmanship isn't the clearest, and there are words I can't read, which are underllined in red in the images posted on ViewMate. The URLs for the pages are: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26007 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26008 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26009 Thanks for your help! Irene Newhouse Kihei HI USA
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Tarcal Deaths
#hungary
Israel P
Does anyone know if there are Tarcal death records anywhere for the years
1898 and 1904? Israel Pickholtz Jerusalem, where we have no FHCs
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Tarcal Deaths
#hungary
Israel P
Does anyone know if there are Tarcal death records anywhere for the years
1898 and 1904? Israel Pickholtz Jerusalem, where we have no FHCs
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Re: Questions Regarding DNA testing
#dna
sbloom@...
I've been researching my genealogy for years, but have not yet used aFor now, lets just assume you are using FTDNA. They could process your results without the BUDGOR male, but for that specific one on one test, you would definitely need both males to test. What information,You will get a list of matches, their contact info (optional, so not everyone gives it), and how tightly they match. You will get an initial "best guess" as to what the haplotype is. --Can I get even more information if my brother (and/or I) take thePerhaps, but I don't think it would give that much more information for the specific test you intend. That is, matching two BUDGAR/BUDGOR, the test (assuming they really are related), might tell you just that---that they are related---which you would already know if they match on the ydna test. I would only do the FF test in this case *if* you are really interested in finding out all possible relatives along all lines. If all you want to do is test these two men mentioned above, then forget FF and mtdna for now. Would that be more info than if my brotherMt-dna is passed to a male, so you need not take the mtdna test, you could have your brother do it >from the same sample as all the other tests, BUT, I don't recommend it in this case, as it would only provide information on your maternal line. --Also, I understand that 23andme provides health info in addition toI don't think this has anything to do with the company (which I like, for a number of reasons). Its my experience that their customers just tend not to have that much genealogical information, which makes the test much less powerful. In my mind, these tests are only as good as the genealogical information that all of the "matchees" have to back up the indicated relationship. Otherwise all you know is that you are a cousin with said person, which doesn't say much more than what you might have just guessed at without having spent hundreds of dollars. Also, 23andme does not do a ydna test specifically, they just do a haplogroup determination. Their test is actually a good value, BUT if you really want that specific y-dna test, you really should go with FTDNA. Steve Bloom Central Virginia
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DNA Research #DNA Re: Questions Regarding DNA testing
#dna
sbloom@...
I've been researching my genealogy for years, but have not yet used aFor now, lets just assume you are using FTDNA. They could process your results without the BUDGOR male, but for that specific one on one test, you would definitely need both males to test. What information,You will get a list of matches, their contact info (optional, so not everyone gives it), and how tightly they match. You will get an initial "best guess" as to what the haplotype is. --Can I get even more information if my brother (and/or I) take thePerhaps, but I don't think it would give that much more information for the specific test you intend. That is, matching two BUDGAR/BUDGOR, the test (assuming they really are related), might tell you just that---that they are related---which you would already know if they match on the ydna test. I would only do the FF test in this case *if* you are really interested in finding out all possible relatives along all lines. If all you want to do is test these two men mentioned above, then forget FF and mtdna for now. Would that be more info than if my brotherMt-dna is passed to a male, so you need not take the mtdna test, you could have your brother do it >from the same sample as all the other tests, BUT, I don't recommend it in this case, as it would only provide information on your maternal line. --Also, I understand that 23andme provides health info in addition toI don't think this has anything to do with the company (which I like, for a number of reasons). Its my experience that their customers just tend not to have that much genealogical information, which makes the test much less powerful. In my mind, these tests are only as good as the genealogical information that all of the "matchees" have to back up the indicated relationship. Otherwise all you know is that you are a cousin with said person, which doesn't say much more than what you might have just guessed at without having spent hundreds of dollars. Also, 23andme does not do a ydna test specifically, they just do a haplogroup determination. Their test is actually a good value, BUT if you really want that specific y-dna test, you really should go with FTDNA. Steve Bloom Central Virginia
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Re: newbie questions
#dna
Sarah L Meyer
Hi Laurie,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I am just a bit more advanced than you are, but I will try to answer your questions. 1. The Y test is very helpful when trying to establish a relationship where the surnames are the same (except possibly for spelling). In that case, you need to recruit as many BUDGA/OR men as possible to determine a link, but at a minimum your brother and a man >from the other family. The Y test only works for male descendants on the paternal line (or surname) line. You should explore FamilyTreeDNA's surname projects and see if there is one for BUDGAR. Do the same for 23 and me. 2. The mtDNA test is almost useless for genealogy unless you do the full test - and it only picks up the maternal line (eg mother's mother's mother etc). This is because the mtDNA mutates much slower than the Y DNA. I have found one double match with someone in the family finder - but we don't know who the common ancestor is, and I have many matches with people whose mothers were in the US in the 1700's, while on my mother's side, I am a first generation American. 3. The family finder test is not restricted to one line (that is a plus) but that means you get tons of matches and you don't necessarily have a clue how you are related. But it has given me a clue that my grandmother's statement about having "yichus" is true. I just haven't worked it out yet. Jewish genealogy is not easy and this isn't either. 4. The reasons that I prefer FamilyTreeDNA to 23 and me are: that it does not have health information, which makes it easier to convince a cousin to test since you wouldn't be getting his/her personal information (and frankly I do not want the health information) and also that it has a much larger database, especially for Jews. 5. That said, there are websites www.Ysearch.org and www.gedmatch.com where you can upload the results of "your" tests regardless of testing company and get comparisons to their databases. Sarah L Meyer
I've been researching my genealogy for years, but have not yet used a DNA
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DNA Research #DNA RE: newbie questions
#dna
Sarah L Meyer
Hi Laurie,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I am just a bit more advanced than you are, but I will try to answer your questions. 1. The Y test is very helpful when trying to establish a relationship where the surnames are the same (except possibly for spelling). In that case, you need to recruit as many BUDGA/OR men as possible to determine a link, but at a minimum your brother and a man >from the other family. The Y test only works for male descendants on the paternal line (or surname) line. You should explore FamilyTreeDNA's surname projects and see if there is one for BUDGAR. Do the same for 23 and me. 2. The mtDNA test is almost useless for genealogy unless you do the full test - and it only picks up the maternal line (eg mother's mother's mother etc). This is because the mtDNA mutates much slower than the Y DNA. I have found one double match with someone in the family finder - but we don't know who the common ancestor is, and I have many matches with people whose mothers were in the US in the 1700's, while on my mother's side, I am a first generation American. 3. The family finder test is not restricted to one line (that is a plus) but that means you get tons of matches and you don't necessarily have a clue how you are related. But it has given me a clue that my grandmother's statement about having "yichus" is true. I just haven't worked it out yet. Jewish genealogy is not easy and this isn't either. 4. The reasons that I prefer FamilyTreeDNA to 23 and me are: that it does not have health information, which makes it easier to convince a cousin to test since you wouldn't be getting his/her personal information (and frankly I do not want the health information) and also that it has a much larger database, especially for Jews. 5. That said, there are websites www.Ysearch.org and www.gedmatch.com where you can upload the results of "your" tests regardless of testing company and get comparisons to their databases. Sarah L Meyer
I've been researching my genealogy for years, but have not yet used a DNA
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Wayne Morgan <morgan.wayne@...>
Hello Everyone:
In 1909, my wife's grandfather, Tzali Szczercowski, travelled from Lodz (probably Baluti) to Paris to obtain training in tailoring. He must have had a passport to make this trip. Does anyone know if there is any way of obtaining passport application information for that time frame? Thanks Wayne Morgan
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Wayne Morgan <morgan.wayne@...>
Hello Everyone:
In 1909, my wife's grandfather, Tzali Szczercowski, travelled from Lodz (probably Baluti) to Paris to obtain training in tailoring. He must have had a passport to make this trip. Does anyone know if there is any way of obtaining passport application information for that time frame? Thanks Wayne Morgan
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Galicia and Bukovina business directory, 1907-1913
#poland
Logan J. Kleinwaks
I am pleased to announce that a Galicia and Bukovina business
directory dated 1907-1913 is now searchable and viewable at http://genealogyindexer.org This is volume 19b of the 10th edition of Leuchs' "Adressbuch aller Laender der Erde der Kaufleute, Fabrikanten, Gewerbtreibenden, Gutsbesitzer, ..." The directory is included in all searches by default. You can restrict searches to it, excluding other directories, by appending {d667} to your search term (e.g., Lichtbach {d667}). The directory is organized mostly by town. To find a town's section (rather than searching by surname), you can use the town index beginning at http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/681 The numbers next to the town names are the printed page numbers, to which you should add 20 to get approximately the corresponding image number in the online presentation. You can jump to image number X with the URL http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/X If you do not see your town, go forward or backward using the numerical "Image" links in the top middle of the page. Alternatively, you can often find a town's section by using the town's name as your search term (with {d667}). Please note that the date 1907-1913 printed on the title page might refer to the range of publication dates across all volumes of this edition, and not the time period in which information was collected for this particular volume. If you know more precisely the date of publication or compilation of this volume, please contact me. It is not apparent to me >from the directory itself, unlike some other editions. Possibly, this is clarified in the first volume, which is not online. This directory is available only because an anonymous donor paid for its digitization by the Moravian Library in Brno through the eBooks on Demand program (http://books2ebooks.eu), and then provided me with the images. While the donor does not wish to be publicly acknowledged, I am sure that many of us will be grateful for this generous gift. Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu near Washington, D.C.
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JRI Poland #Poland Galicia and Bukovina business directory, 1907-1913
#poland
Logan J. Kleinwaks
I am pleased to announce that a Galicia and Bukovina business
directory dated 1907-1913 is now searchable and viewable at http://genealogyindexer.org This is volume 19b of the 10th edition of Leuchs' "Adressbuch aller Laender der Erde der Kaufleute, Fabrikanten, Gewerbtreibenden, Gutsbesitzer, ..." The directory is included in all searches by default. You can restrict searches to it, excluding other directories, by appending {d667} to your search term (e.g., Lichtbach {d667}). The directory is organized mostly by town. To find a town's section (rather than searching by surname), you can use the town index beginning at http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/681 The numbers next to the town names are the printed page numbers, to which you should add 20 to get approximately the corresponding image number in the online presentation. You can jump to image number X with the URL http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/X If you do not see your town, go forward or backward using the numerical "Image" links in the top middle of the page. Alternatively, you can often find a town's section by using the town's name as your search term (with {d667}). Please note that the date 1907-1913 printed on the title page might refer to the range of publication dates across all volumes of this edition, and not the time period in which information was collected for this particular volume. If you know more precisely the date of publication or compilation of this volume, please contact me. It is not apparent to me >from the directory itself, unlike some other editions. Possibly, this is clarified in the first volume, which is not online. This directory is available only because an anonymous donor paid for its digitization by the Moravian Library in Brno through the eBooks on Demand program (http://books2ebooks.eu), and then provided me with the images. While the donor does not wish to be publicly acknowledged, I am sure that many of us will be grateful for this generous gift. Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu near Washington, D.C.
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ViewMate Translation Request - Russian
#poland
Steven Taubman <taubman@...>
I have posted five vital records, all of which I believe are written in
Russian, on ViewMate. I would greatly appreciate direct translations of each document (although even loose translations would be much appreciated). The records are on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26052 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26053 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26054 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26055 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26056 Thank you for your help. Steve Taubman Pacifica, CA TAUBMANN, TAUBMAN >from Bucharest, Romania; ALADJEM >from Sofiya, Bulgaria; KOSSOFF, KUCHEL, MARKMAN, ISENBEY >from Pavoloch, Fastov and/or Kiev Region, Ukraine; SALBE >from Radom, Poland; BRAJTER >from Lublin, Poland; SZAFRAN, TAMRES >from Nasielsk, Poland; KADISH, KADISCH, FISHKIN >from Minsk, Russia; ETKIN, SHAPIRO >from Kaunas, Lithuania; KOBLINTZ, MOSKOWITZ, REIKES, ROSENFELD >from Russia; TABAKIERKA, KRAMER from Korets, Berezdov and/or Rivne, Ukraine; RZESZKOWSKI, SPERLING,SZPERLING >from Lodz, Poland MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately or on the Viewmate form.
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JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate Translation Request - Russian
#poland
Steven Taubman <taubman@...>
I have posted five vital records, all of which I believe are written in
Russian, on ViewMate. I would greatly appreciate direct translations of each document (although even loose translations would be much appreciated). The records are on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26052 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26053 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26054 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26055 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26056 Thank you for your help. Steve Taubman Pacifica, CA TAUBMANN, TAUBMAN >from Bucharest, Romania; ALADJEM >from Sofiya, Bulgaria; KOSSOFF, KUCHEL, MARKMAN, ISENBEY >from Pavoloch, Fastov and/or Kiev Region, Ukraine; SALBE >from Radom, Poland; BRAJTER >from Lublin, Poland; SZAFRAN, TAMRES >from Nasielsk, Poland; KADISH, KADISCH, FISHKIN >from Minsk, Russia; ETKIN, SHAPIRO >from Kaunas, Lithuania; KOBLINTZ, MOSKOWITZ, REIKES, ROSENFELD >from Russia; TABAKIERKA, KRAMER from Korets, Berezdov and/or Rivne, Ukraine; RZESZKOWSKI, SPERLING,SZPERLING >from Lodz, Poland MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately or on the Viewmate form.
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Galicia and Bukovina business directory, 1907-1913
#galicia
Logan J. Kleinwaks
I am pleased to announce that a Galicia and Bukovina business directory
dated 1907-1913 is now searchable and viewable at http://genealogyindexer.org. This is volume 19b of the 10th edition of Leuchs' "Adressbuch aller Laender der Erde der Kaufleute, Fabrikanten, Gewerbtreibenden, Gutsbesitzer, ..." The directory is included in all searches by default. You can restrict searches to it, excluding other directories, by appending {d667} to your search term (e.g., Lichtbach {d667}). The directory is organized mostly by town. To find a town's section (rather than searching by surname), you can use the town index beginning at http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/681. The numbers next to the town names are the printed page numbers, to which you should add 20 to get approximately the corresponding image number in the online presentation. You can jump to image number X with the URL http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/X. If you do not see your town, go forward or backward using the numerical "Image" links in the top middle of the page. Alternatively, you can often find a town's section by using the town's name as your search term (with {d667}). Please note that the date 1907-1913 printed on the title page might refer to the range of publication dates across all volumes of this edition, and not the time period in which information was collected for this particular volume. If you know more precisely the date of publication or compilation of this volume, please contact me. It is not apparent to me from the directory itself, unlike some other editions. Possibly, this isclarified in the first volume, which is not online. This directory is available only because an anonymous donor paid for its digitization by the Moravian Library in Brno through the eBooks on Demand program (http://books2ebooks.eu), and then provided me with the images. While the donor does not wish to be publicly acknowledged, I am sure that many of us will be grateful for this generous gift. Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu near Washington, D.C.
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Information needed [HALBERSTAM from Bobowa]
#galicia
Jacob Mueller <jacobmueller26@...>
Good afternoon Siggers:
I recently started researching Rabbi Halberstam and Family and his Shul >from Bobowa. I wanted to find out if any one of you may have any letters, photos,or any correspondence that may relate to the Family or the Shul please email them to me so it can help me in my research. Thanks a lot & have a great day. Sincerely, Jacob Mueller Jacobmueller26@gmail.com
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Galicia and Bukovina business directory, 1907-1913
#galicia
Logan J. Kleinwaks
I am pleased to announce that a Galicia and Bukovina business directory
dated 1907-1913 is now searchable and viewable at http://genealogyindexer.org. This is volume 19b of the 10th edition of Leuchs' "Adressbuch aller Laender der Erde der Kaufleute, Fabrikanten, Gewerbtreibenden, Gutsbesitzer, ..." The directory is included in all searches by default. You can restrict searches to it, excluding other directories, by appending {d667} to your search term (e.g., Lichtbach {d667}). The directory is organized mostly by town. To find a town's section (rather than searching by surname), you can use the town index beginning at http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/681. The numbers next to the town names are the printed page numbers, to which you should add 20 to get approximately the corresponding image number in the online presentation. You can jump to image number X with the URL http://genealogyindexer.org/view/190713Leuchs19b/X. If you do not see your town, go forward or backward using the numerical "Image" links in the top middle of the page. Alternatively, you can often find a town's section by using the town's name as your search term (with {d667}). Please note that the date 1907-1913 printed on the title page might refer to the range of publication dates across all volumes of this edition, and not the time period in which information was collected for this particular volume. If you know more precisely the date of publication or compilation of this volume, please contact me. It is not apparent to me from the directory itself, unlike some other editions. Possibly, this isclarified in the first volume, which is not online. This directory is available only because an anonymous donor paid for its digitization by the Moravian Library in Brno through the eBooks on Demand program (http://books2ebooks.eu), and then provided me with the images. While the donor does not wish to be publicly acknowledged, I am sure that many of us will be grateful for this generous gift. Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu near Washington, D.C.
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Information needed [HALBERSTAM from Bobowa]
#galicia
Jacob Mueller <jacobmueller26@...>
Good afternoon Siggers:
I recently started researching Rabbi Halberstam and Family and his Shul >from Bobowa. I wanted to find out if any one of you may have any letters, photos,or any correspondence that may relate to the Family or the Shul please email them to me so it can help me in my research. Thanks a lot & have a great day. Sincerely, Jacob Mueller Jacobmueller26@gmail.com
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