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ViewMate translation request - German and Latin #galicia

Martin Wahlen <mwahlen@...>
 

I've posted two excerpts regarding house number 6 in Rudki owned by
Hersch Kleist for which I need a loose translation. They are on ViewMate at

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34509
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34508

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Martin Wahlen


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia ViewMate translation request - German and Latin #galicia

Martin Wahlen <mwahlen@...>
 

I've posted two excerpts regarding house number 6 in Rudki owned by
Hersch Kleist for which I need a loose translation. They are on ViewMate at

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34509
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34508

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Martin Wahlen


Re: Tarnopol, Zbaraz, L'viv #galicia

Brooke Schreier Ganz <asparagirl@...>
 

Roy Star writes:

<<My channels of research for Tarnopol, Zbaraz and L'viv are now
exhausted. I find it difficult to understand, however, that for major
cities such as Tarnopol, and nearby Zbaraz, that there are so few
records presently available on line. Many towns and villages that I
have never heard of previously are regularly added to the list, but
Tarnopol and Zbaraz who I would have thought were important, are
sorely under-represented.>>

Hi Roy. I wanted to write up a long reply to this comment, because I
think it shows a common misperception in how and why some records
get chosen to be put online. But first, I have to take issue with your
statement a little; Zbaraz (Zbarazh) is actually one of the
*best*-represented towns or cities in the All Galicia Database, with
the following ten datasets transcribed and available for free searches
in the AGD:

- Zbaraz Homeowners List (1829) (872 records)
- Zbaraz Homeowners List (1831) (1,050 records)
- Zbaraz Jewish Birth Records (1815-1876; 1897; 1899; 1906-1912)
(7,763 records)
- Zbaraz Jewish Death Records (1804-1858; 1894-1942)
(7,808 records)
- Zbaraz Jewish Marriage Records (1904-1910) (158 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1911) (73 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1912) (134 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1913) (147 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1926) (327 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1927) (302 records)

That's not too shabby... but it can always be better! And therein lies
the true larger point: records only go online in the AGD (or any other
online database) because someone made it happen. Someone wanted
them to go online so much that they sat down with photographs or
microfilms of the original records -- or worked directly >from the
original books, if it was possible -- and made the effort to index the
data, transcribing that data name by name into spreadsheets. That's
it, that's the big secret to how things get online: someone sat down
and did boring, tedious transcription work for a really long time.

So in a situation like that, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. If
someone is gung-ho about their little dinky town of interest, and
transcribes everything about it, then it gets to go online. If no one
steps up to transcribe a town's records, even if it's a big important
city center, then that data stays hidden away in microfilms or books
in libraries and archives -- and not on the Internet.

You're right that the AGD still has some pretty big "holes" in its
coverage, where many little towns have representation and yet some
big population centers (like Stanislawow / Ivano-Frankivsk, for
example) don't have searchable records online...yet. Luckily, there is
a way to fix this!

If you would like to see more records put online >from cities like
Ternopil, you can find out what records exist in books or on microfilm
that nobody has transcribed yet. The first stop should always be the
Gesher Galicia inventory website, at...

http://inventory.geshergalicia.org/

... which will link to three sub-pages giving information about what
records and maps we know exist for various Galician towns. This one,
for example, covers records whose existence was first documented
during the Cadastral Map and Landowners project, which is being
folded into the broader Galician Archival Records Project (GARP):

http://www.geshergalicia.org/inventory/cadastral-maps-and-records/

But an easier way to get copies of records you're interested in is
through the Mormon Church (LDS) Family History Centers and Family
History Libraries, which are scattered throughout the world, and which
are free to use, even for non-members. You can order copies of any
of their microfilms on short-term or long-term loan, and for a very
low fee they'll send a copy to your local center for you to use as much
as you like. (For example, there's a little Family History Library right
next door to my local JCC, so lately I've been stopping in to look at
microfilmed birth records >from 1924-1925 Stanislawow after I drop
my kids off at the JCC summer camp.)

Using Ternopil (formerly known as Tarnopol) as a good example, you
can go to the online FamilySearch Catalog here...

https://familysearch.org/catalog-search

... and type in "Ternopil" into the Place search box. It will dropdown a
variety of options and suggestions for you, including "Ukraine,
Ternopil'" (meaning the entire Ternopil oblast in Ukraine), "Ukraine,
Ternopil', Ternopil'" (meaning the raion or district within the
oblast), and finally "Ukraine, Ternopil', Ternopil', Ternopil'"
(meaning the city inside the raion inside the oblast).

Choosing the first of these, "Ukraine, Ternopil'", will bring you to a
page devoted just to records broadly covering that oblast. It shows
that there are many possible microfilms of interest, including:

- Jewish community records (town council documents) for
congregations in the Ternopil area, for 1838-1870
- List of [Jewish] "parishioners" [sic] including birth years 1814-1890
- Metrical certificates of births, marriages, deaths 1833-1937 (some
years missing and out of order)
- Marriage supplements 1850-1855
- Lists of people converted to other religions [>from Judaism] 1921-1935

... and so on. Any one of those would be really amazing to search
through. And this is just a partial listing of the Jewish-themed records
for the oblast. There are also more general records that might be of
interest, such as military records, 1865-1930, whose catalog
description says "Military records (registration cards, personnel files,
medical tests) >from various cities in Galizien, Austria; now in various
areas of Poland (mainly Krakow province) and Ukraine (mainly L'viv,
Ivano-Frankivs'k, and Ternopil' provinces). Includes personnel files for
military personnel, both officers and enlisted. About 70% of the
documents show the name, birth place and year..." I have personally
worked with post-1920 Polish military records >from formerly Galician
towns, although not this exact set which were >from the earlier
Austrian era, and I can confirm that the records would also include the
person's religion, allowing someone to extract the Jewish names, and
also lists their parents' names, including often the mother's maiden
name.

But... no one has indexed any of those record books yet. So they sit in
the original archives in Ukraine and in Vienna, and a microfilm copy
sits in a vault that is literally built into the side of a mountain in
Utah. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they were on the Internet, too, and
indexed for searches?

And that's just the records for the oblast itself. If you continue
drilling down the FamilySearch catalog into the section specific to the
city -- which is "Ukraine, Ternopil', Ternopil', Ternopil'" -- you will
eventually run across the three microfilms that hold the gold mine,
copies of the Jewish birth, marriage, and death records for the city
itself, "[Tarnopol Jewish] Metrical books, 1816-1942" :

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/1695056?availability=Family%20History%20Library

A few of these are already online in the AGD:

- Tarnopol Jewish Death Records (1941-1942) (1,108 records)
- Tarnopol Jewish Marriage Records (1942) (66 records)

But of course, 1941-1942 is just a fraction of the years available.
Wouldn't it be great if we had a searchable index to the
Ternopil/Tarnopol births >from the 19th century?

So, I hope you see my larger point: if you or anyone else wants specific
record sets to go online, you'll have to band together and tediously
work on it, or perhaps even pool money to hire someone to do it for
you. (There are plenty of unemployed recent college graduates who
might be great transcribers for a short-term project like this.) We're
happy to publish records in the AGD, but the limiting factors are what
people are finding and transcribing and giving to us -- and how much
time I can manage to eke out in front of my keyboard these days to do
the actual publication updates.

<<I do hope earlier records become available in the not too distant
future.>>

Me too. I hope this message gives people ideas about how to find
resources for their towns of interest -- and how to hopefully start
indexing data to prepare it for a new life online! But please, check
with Gesher Galicia president and research coordinator Pamela
Weisberger first, via private e-mail to her, to avoid accidental
duplication of effort on any new projects you may want to start. :-)

- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Sausalito, California


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Tarnopol, Zbaraz, L'viv #galicia

Brooke Schreier Ganz <asparagirl@...>
 

Roy Star writes:

<<My channels of research for Tarnopol, Zbaraz and L'viv are now
exhausted. I find it difficult to understand, however, that for major
cities such as Tarnopol, and nearby Zbaraz, that there are so few
records presently available on line. Many towns and villages that I
have never heard of previously are regularly added to the list, but
Tarnopol and Zbaraz who I would have thought were important, are
sorely under-represented.>>

Hi Roy. I wanted to write up a long reply to this comment, because I
think it shows a common misperception in how and why some records
get chosen to be put online. But first, I have to take issue with your
statement a little; Zbaraz (Zbarazh) is actually one of the
*best*-represented towns or cities in the All Galicia Database, with
the following ten datasets transcribed and available for free searches
in the AGD:

- Zbaraz Homeowners List (1829) (872 records)
- Zbaraz Homeowners List (1831) (1,050 records)
- Zbaraz Jewish Birth Records (1815-1876; 1897; 1899; 1906-1912)
(7,763 records)
- Zbaraz Jewish Death Records (1804-1858; 1894-1942)
(7,808 records)
- Zbaraz Jewish Marriage Records (1904-1910) (158 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1911) (73 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1912) (134 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1913) (147 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1926) (327 records)
- Zbaraz School Records (1927) (302 records)

That's not too shabby... but it can always be better! And therein lies
the true larger point: records only go online in the AGD (or any other
online database) because someone made it happen. Someone wanted
them to go online so much that they sat down with photographs or
microfilms of the original records -- or worked directly >from the
original books, if it was possible -- and made the effort to index the
data, transcribing that data name by name into spreadsheets. That's
it, that's the big secret to how things get online: someone sat down
and did boring, tedious transcription work for a really long time.

So in a situation like that, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. If
someone is gung-ho about their little dinky town of interest, and
transcribes everything about it, then it gets to go online. If no one
steps up to transcribe a town's records, even if it's a big important
city center, then that data stays hidden away in microfilms or books
in libraries and archives -- and not on the Internet.

You're right that the AGD still has some pretty big "holes" in its
coverage, where many little towns have representation and yet some
big population centers (like Stanislawow / Ivano-Frankivsk, for
example) don't have searchable records online...yet. Luckily, there is
a way to fix this!

If you would like to see more records put online >from cities like
Ternopil, you can find out what records exist in books or on microfilm
that nobody has transcribed yet. The first stop should always be the
Gesher Galicia inventory website, at...

http://inventory.geshergalicia.org/

... which will link to three sub-pages giving information about what
records and maps we know exist for various Galician towns. This one,
for example, covers records whose existence was first documented
during the Cadastral Map and Landowners project, which is being
folded into the broader Galician Archival Records Project (GARP):

http://www.geshergalicia.org/inventory/cadastral-maps-and-records/

But an easier way to get copies of records you're interested in is
through the Mormon Church (LDS) Family History Centers and Family
History Libraries, which are scattered throughout the world, and which
are free to use, even for non-members. You can order copies of any
of their microfilms on short-term or long-term loan, and for a very
low fee they'll send a copy to your local center for you to use as much
as you like. (For example, there's a little Family History Library right
next door to my local JCC, so lately I've been stopping in to look at
microfilmed birth records >from 1924-1925 Stanislawow after I drop
my kids off at the JCC summer camp.)

Using Ternopil (formerly known as Tarnopol) as a good example, you
can go to the online FamilySearch Catalog here...

https://familysearch.org/catalog-search

... and type in "Ternopil" into the Place search box. It will dropdown a
variety of options and suggestions for you, including "Ukraine,
Ternopil'" (meaning the entire Ternopil oblast in Ukraine), "Ukraine,
Ternopil', Ternopil'" (meaning the raion or district within the
oblast), and finally "Ukraine, Ternopil', Ternopil', Ternopil'"
(meaning the city inside the raion inside the oblast).

Choosing the first of these, "Ukraine, Ternopil'", will bring you to a
page devoted just to records broadly covering that oblast. It shows
that there are many possible microfilms of interest, including:

- Jewish community records (town council documents) for
congregations in the Ternopil area, for 1838-1870
- List of [Jewish] "parishioners" [sic] including birth years 1814-1890
- Metrical certificates of births, marriages, deaths 1833-1937 (some
years missing and out of order)
- Marriage supplements 1850-1855
- Lists of people converted to other religions [>from Judaism] 1921-1935

... and so on. Any one of those would be really amazing to search
through. And this is just a partial listing of the Jewish-themed records
for the oblast. There are also more general records that might be of
interest, such as military records, 1865-1930, whose catalog
description says "Military records (registration cards, personnel files,
medical tests) >from various cities in Galizien, Austria; now in various
areas of Poland (mainly Krakow province) and Ukraine (mainly L'viv,
Ivano-Frankivs'k, and Ternopil' provinces). Includes personnel files for
military personnel, both officers and enlisted. About 70% of the
documents show the name, birth place and year..." I have personally
worked with post-1920 Polish military records >from formerly Galician
towns, although not this exact set which were >from the earlier
Austrian era, and I can confirm that the records would also include the
person's religion, allowing someone to extract the Jewish names, and
also lists their parents' names, including often the mother's maiden
name.

But... no one has indexed any of those record books yet. So they sit in
the original archives in Ukraine and in Vienna, and a microfilm copy
sits in a vault that is literally built into the side of a mountain in
Utah. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they were on the Internet, too, and
indexed for searches?

And that's just the records for the oblast itself. If you continue
drilling down the FamilySearch catalog into the section specific to the
city -- which is "Ukraine, Ternopil', Ternopil', Ternopil'" -- you will
eventually run across the three microfilms that hold the gold mine,
copies of the Jewish birth, marriage, and death records for the city
itself, "[Tarnopol Jewish] Metrical books, 1816-1942" :

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/1695056?availability=Family%20History%20Library

A few of these are already online in the AGD:

- Tarnopol Jewish Death Records (1941-1942) (1,108 records)
- Tarnopol Jewish Marriage Records (1942) (66 records)

But of course, 1941-1942 is just a fraction of the years available.
Wouldn't it be great if we had a searchable index to the
Ternopil/Tarnopol births >from the 19th century?

So, I hope you see my larger point: if you or anyone else wants specific
record sets to go online, you'll have to band together and tediously
work on it, or perhaps even pool money to hire someone to do it for
you. (There are plenty of unemployed recent college graduates who
might be great transcribers for a short-term project like this.) We're
happy to publish records in the AGD, but the limiting factors are what
people are finding and transcribing and giving to us -- and how much
time I can manage to eke out in front of my keyboard these days to do
the actual publication updates.

<<I do hope earlier records become available in the not too distant
future.>>

Me too. I hope this message gives people ideas about how to find
resources for their towns of interest -- and how to hopefully start
indexing data to prepare it for a new life online! But please, check
with Gesher Galicia president and research coordinator Pamela
Weisberger first, via private e-mail to her, to avoid accidental
duplication of effort on any new projects you may want to start. :-)

- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Sausalito, California


Translator Recommendation #germany

E Feinstein
 

Can anyone please recommend a German translator?

This is to translate handwritten documents only! Thank you in advance. All the best,

Eric Feinstein, Clifton, New Jersey


German SIG #Germany Translator Recommendation #germany

E Feinstein
 

Can anyone please recommend a German translator?

This is to translate handwritten documents only! Thank you in advance. All the best,

Eric Feinstein, Clifton, New Jersey


Assistance with NUSSBAUM-KATZ marriage registrations (Hesse) ViewMate #germany

Tamar Amit <ta.genealogy@...>
 

Dear siggers,
I need your assistance in transcripting details >from the following 2
marriage registrations between the NUSSBAUM and the KATZ families in
Hesse.
Both are on same page (#25 and #27) on ViewMate at -
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34507

I can send better resolution images if required.

I suspect the mothers (or mother) are/is >from my GOTTLIEB family.
In any case, these families had many marriage connections between them.

Many thanks, Tamar Amit, in Israel

researching GOTTLIEB >from Grebenau, Lauterbach and APT >from Niederaula, Hessen and all around it.


German SIG #Germany Assistance with NUSSBAUM-KATZ marriage registrations (Hesse) ViewMate #germany

Tamar Amit <ta.genealogy@...>
 

Dear siggers,
I need your assistance in transcripting details >from the following 2
marriage registrations between the NUSSBAUM and the KATZ families in
Hesse.
Both are on same page (#25 and #27) on ViewMate at -
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34507

I can send better resolution images if required.

I suspect the mothers (or mother) are/is >from my GOTTLIEB family.
In any case, these families had many marriage connections between them.

Many thanks, Tamar Amit, in Israel

researching GOTTLIEB >from Grebenau, Lauterbach and APT >from Niederaula, Hessen and all around it.


Re: Tarnopol, Zbaraz, L'viv #galicia

Tony Kahane
 

Roy Star wrote:

"I find it difficult to understand, however, that for major cities such
as Tarnopol, and nearby Zbaraz, there are so few records presently
available on line."

In fact, _all_ the known and accessible Jewish vital records for
Zbaraz are online. The locations of the Zbaraz vital records are
divided between the Ukrainian State Archives in Lviv, AGAD in
Warsaw and the USC office in Warsaw.

a) Lviv archives. All the records for Zbaraz held in Lviv have been
indexed and put online on Gesher Galicia's "All Galicia Database",
at: <http://search.geshergalicia.org/>. These records are:
Births 1815-1876; Deaths 1804-1809, 1816-1858, 1894-1907,
1912-1942.

b) AGAD in Warsaw. All the Zbaraz records currently at AGAD are
also online, on the web site of JRI-Poland. They are:
Births 1877-1889, 1891-1912; Marriages 1859-1910; Deaths
1859-1893, 1908-1911.

The All Galicia Database also has indexes of some of these records
from AGAD on its site, including:
Births 1897, 1899, 1906-1912; Marriages 1904-1910; Deaths
1908-1911.

c) USC office in Warsaw
These records are in registers currently less than 100 years old and
have not yet been transferred to AGAD or made accessible. They are:
Births 1914-1942; Marriages 1911-1942.

As regards Tarnopol, it is quite true that there is a gap here that
needs to be filled. The only indexes >from vital records held in the
Lviv archives that are on the All Galicia Database are those >from the
period of the Holocaust. They are:
Marriages 1942; Deaths 1941-42.

Those Tarnopol vital records held in the Lviv archives and not
indexed so far include:
- Births 1816-1838, 1852-1865, 1900, as well as birth index
books for 1924 and 1927.
- Marriages 1816-1839, 1841-1846, 1848-1858, 1923,
1931-1936, 1938-1939.
- Deaths 1816-1834, 1845-1869, 1877-1878, 1926, 1929-1931.

However, most of the Tarnopol records held at AGAD in Warsaw
have been indexed and put onto JRI-Poland's web site, including
most of:
Births 1892-1899, 1901-1913; Marriages 1878-1913; Deaths
1870-1876, 1878-1892, 1894-1913.
AGAD also holds Marriages 1937, as well as the index register of
Marriages 1936-1943, both of which books are not accessible and
have not been indexed.

Finally, the following vital records for Tarnopol are held at USC in
Warsaw and have not been made accessible as yet:
Births 1913-1941; Marriages 1913-1914, 1917-1931, 1933,
1936-1939; Deaths 1913-1918, 1920-1928, 1931-1939.

Tony Kahane
London, UK


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Tarnopol, Zbaraz, L'viv #galicia

Tony Kahane
 

Roy Star wrote:

"I find it difficult to understand, however, that for major cities such
as Tarnopol, and nearby Zbaraz, there are so few records presently
available on line."

In fact, _all_ the known and accessible Jewish vital records for
Zbaraz are online. The locations of the Zbaraz vital records are
divided between the Ukrainian State Archives in Lviv, AGAD in
Warsaw and the USC office in Warsaw.

a) Lviv archives. All the records for Zbaraz held in Lviv have been
indexed and put online on Gesher Galicia's "All Galicia Database",
at: <http://search.geshergalicia.org/>. These records are:
Births 1815-1876; Deaths 1804-1809, 1816-1858, 1894-1907,
1912-1942.

b) AGAD in Warsaw. All the Zbaraz records currently at AGAD are
also online, on the web site of JRI-Poland. They are:
Births 1877-1889, 1891-1912; Marriages 1859-1910; Deaths
1859-1893, 1908-1911.

The All Galicia Database also has indexes of some of these records
from AGAD on its site, including:
Births 1897, 1899, 1906-1912; Marriages 1904-1910; Deaths
1908-1911.

c) USC office in Warsaw
These records are in registers currently less than 100 years old and
have not yet been transferred to AGAD or made accessible. They are:
Births 1914-1942; Marriages 1911-1942.

As regards Tarnopol, it is quite true that there is a gap here that
needs to be filled. The only indexes >from vital records held in the
Lviv archives that are on the All Galicia Database are those >from the
period of the Holocaust. They are:
Marriages 1942; Deaths 1941-42.

Those Tarnopol vital records held in the Lviv archives and not
indexed so far include:
- Births 1816-1838, 1852-1865, 1900, as well as birth index
books for 1924 and 1927.
- Marriages 1816-1839, 1841-1846, 1848-1858, 1923,
1931-1936, 1938-1939.
- Deaths 1816-1834, 1845-1869, 1877-1878, 1926, 1929-1931.

However, most of the Tarnopol records held at AGAD in Warsaw
have been indexed and put onto JRI-Poland's web site, including
most of:
Births 1892-1899, 1901-1913; Marriages 1878-1913; Deaths
1870-1876, 1878-1892, 1894-1913.
AGAD also holds Marriages 1937, as well as the index register of
Marriages 1936-1943, both of which books are not accessible and
have not been indexed.

Finally, the following vital records for Tarnopol are held at USC in
Warsaw and have not been made accessible as yet:
Births 1913-1941; Marriages 1913-1914, 1917-1931, 1933,
1936-1939; Deaths 1913-1918, 1920-1928, 1931-1939.

Tony Kahane
London, UK


Looking for nee MITZKY TOPP relative who survived Terezin #germany

Roger Adler
 

Dear Siggers:

I am looking to trace ancestors of a woman named nee MITZKY TOPP who was
liberated >from Terezin in 1945. Her father MITZKY was buried in Berlin in 1904.

Any suggestions how I can trace her descendents?

Roger Adler San Antonio, Texas USA <baldreal@hotmail.com>


German SIG #Germany Looking for nee MITZKY TOPP relative who survived Terezin #germany

Roger Adler
 

Dear Siggers:

I am looking to trace ancestors of a woman named nee MITZKY TOPP who was
liberated >from Terezin in 1945. Her father MITZKY was buried in Berlin in 1904.

Any suggestions how I can trace her descendents?

Roger Adler San Antonio, Texas USA <baldreal@hotmail.com>


ViewMate translation request - Polish (Terespol, Poland) #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I've posted a few vital records in Polish for which I need an
extraction. It is of my ancestors of the FERDMAN family, living
in Terespol, Poland.

The records can be found on ViewMate at the following links:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34510

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34511

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34512

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34513

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34514

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate site.

Thank you very much,

Yaron Pedhazur
Tel Aviv, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Polish (Terespol, Poland) #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I've posted a few vital records in Polish for which I need an
extraction. It is of my ancestors of the FERDMAN family, living
in Terespol, Poland.

The records can be found on ViewMate at the following links:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34510

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34511

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34512

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34513

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34514

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate site.

Thank you very much,

Yaron Pedhazur
Tel Aviv, Israel


LDS Database #general

Amit N
 

Hello,

I have searched for the first time in the LDS Database and recieved a
list of films. My question is how can I reach those films, are they
digitalized and is it possible to search them?

Thank you
Amit Naor, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LDS Database #general

Amit N
 

Hello,

I have searched for the first time in the LDS Database and recieved a
list of films. My question is how can I reach those films, are they
digitalized and is it possible to search them?

Thank you
Amit Naor, Israel


Re: Korban Nesanel #rabbinic

tom
 

It should be noted anywhere that his Hebrew name, or that of his
children, appears in full.

His books seem to be available online at
<http://www.hebrewbooks.org/>, but he is only listed as Nesanel
Weill, with no father's name that I could see, nor any indication of
being a levi.

It would normally also appear on his gravestone, or that of his
children. The wikipedia article
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nethaneel_Weil> does include a picture
of his stone, but without a patronymic and with no mention of being a
levi.

So unless the WEILL name has some link to levites (as SEGAL does),
it is likely that he wasn't.

....... tom klein, torontp

Weill <linktree@yahoo.com> wrote:

Can someone advise me how to find out if the Korban Nesanel (Rabbi Nesanel
Weill) of Karlshrue was a Levi?


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Korban Nesanel #rabbinic

tom
 

It should be noted anywhere that his Hebrew name, or that of his
children, appears in full.

His books seem to be available online at
<http://www.hebrewbooks.org/>, but he is only listed as Nesanel
Weill, with no father's name that I could see, nor any indication of
being a levi.

It would normally also appear on his gravestone, or that of his
children. The wikipedia article
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nethaneel_Weil> does include a picture
of his stone, but without a patronymic and with no mention of being a
levi.

So unless the WEILL name has some link to levites (as SEGAL does),
it is likely that he wasn't.

....... tom klein, torontp

Weill <linktree@yahoo.com> wrote:

Can someone advise me how to find out if the Korban Nesanel (Rabbi Nesanel
Weill) of Karlshrue was a Levi?


Re: logistics of matching with a specific person #dna

Sarah L Meyer
 

Helen,
First, there is no need for the samples to arrive together. I continually
get matches. I had my sister test about 3 years after I did and we were
immediately matched. So as long as you have each other's name (and email
address) this is not a problem. Depending on the tests and the timing of
their arrival in the lab, there is a delay that can be up to about six weeks
before the results arrive. You should look at the family finder, not mtDNA.
Family finder is more versatile and mtDNA would just do his mother's,
mother's, mother's line and compare it with your mother's, mother's,
mother's line. If you have a male cousin who is a male descendant of sons
of your grandmother so that the surname is the same, then you could use Y
DNA. Otherwise, start out with the Family Finder. which will tell you about
how closely you are related, but not how. You can each test at home (FTDNA
takes 2 minutes), and international shipping charges are $7 >from Houston, as
opposed to $5 domestically in the US.

Sarah L Meyer


DNA Research #DNA Re: logistics of matching with a specific person #dna

Sarah L Meyer
 

Helen,
First, there is no need for the samples to arrive together. I continually
get matches. I had my sister test about 3 years after I did and we were
immediately matched. So as long as you have each other's name (and email
address) this is not a problem. Depending on the tests and the timing of
their arrival in the lab, there is a delay that can be up to about six weeks
before the results arrive. You should look at the family finder, not mtDNA.
Family finder is more versatile and mtDNA would just do his mother's,
mother's, mother's line and compare it with your mother's, mother's,
mother's line. If you have a male cousin who is a male descendant of sons
of your grandmother so that the surname is the same, then you could use Y
DNA. Otherwise, start out with the Family Finder. which will tell you about
how closely you are related, but not how. You can each test at home (FTDNA
takes 2 minutes), and international shipping charges are $7 >from Houston, as
opposed to $5 domestically in the US.

Sarah L Meyer

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