Date   

New and newly-expanded LUBLIN-WIENIAWA-KONOPNICA Index Files #poland

Dan Oren
 

One-time public service announcement:

Hats off (and kippot on!) to JRI-Poland Lublin Archive Coordinator
Robinn Magid and Grodzka Gate researcher Tadeusz Przysojecki who have
discovered the missing World War I era Jewish vital records of Wieniawa
(part of today's Lublin) that were registered as being >from
Konopnica! Was it a set of mis-labeled registrations? Not at all. During
the war years Wieniawa was being absorbed into the city limits of Lublin
and local administrative duties were handled out of the Konopnica
municipal office located IN the middle of Wieniawa. For those Lublin
area genealogists who wish to get their eyes on these WWI records >from
their family and >from their family's records >from 1826-1910 now
undergoing latest generation-extraction (including patronymics, maiden
names, and places of living in addition to the town of
registration - none of which are available on-line yet, please
contact me. To qualify for access, JRI-Poland needs YOUR help to fund
the completion of this work so that it can go on-line. Donors of at
least $180 will get early access to any of your family's indexed data
that we already have extracted. (I just discovered the birth record of a
first cousin twice removed, leading me to find her parents' marriage
record as well!)

Read more about these places at
www.teatrnn.pl/pamiec/en/the-jewish-district-in-wieniawa

Thank you,

Dan Oren
Wieniawa Town Leader, Lublin Archives Project
Woodbridge, Connecticut USA
Searching for GEWERC, GIEWERC, WAYSBROT, ZYLBERSZTAYN >from
Wieniawa/Lublin, Poland


JRI Poland #Poland New and newly-expanded LUBLIN-WIENIAWA-KONOPNICA Index Files #poland

Dan Oren
 

One-time public service announcement:

Hats off (and kippot on!) to JRI-Poland Lublin Archive Coordinator
Robinn Magid and Grodzka Gate researcher Tadeusz Przysojecki who have
discovered the missing World War I era Jewish vital records of Wieniawa
(part of today's Lublin) that were registered as being >from
Konopnica! Was it a set of mis-labeled registrations? Not at all. During
the war years Wieniawa was being absorbed into the city limits of Lublin
and local administrative duties were handled out of the Konopnica
municipal office located IN the middle of Wieniawa. For those Lublin
area genealogists who wish to get their eyes on these WWI records >from
their family and >from their family's records >from 1826-1910 now
undergoing latest generation-extraction (including patronymics, maiden
names, and places of living in addition to the town of
registration - none of which are available on-line yet, please
contact me. To qualify for access, JRI-Poland needs YOUR help to fund
the completion of this work so that it can go on-line. Donors of at
least $180 will get early access to any of your family's indexed data
that we already have extracted. (I just discovered the birth record of a
first cousin twice removed, leading me to find her parents' marriage
record as well!)

Read more about these places at
www.teatrnn.pl/pamiec/en/the-jewish-district-in-wieniawa

Thank you,

Dan Oren
Wieniawa Town Leader, Lublin Archives Project
Woodbridge, Connecticut USA
Searching for GEWERC, GIEWERC, WAYSBROT, ZYLBERSZTAYN >from
Wieniawa/Lublin, Poland


New JewishGen groups #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello everybody,

Everybody is now trying to understand how the new JewishGen group works. Of
course with all this confusion in the first month of October, even in half
of October we got 387 messages as of today. Even if you are getting digests
for every 12 message, still you should get 30 digests.

There is way that you use this group, read messages, reply, post and not see
any emails in your email box... You can use the website of the group
instead and see all messages by month, #hashtag. Here is address of that
website: https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main
Also keep in mind that the number of postings will decrease, I hope.

from the other hand there is a good reason to use this new groups, and I
hope that soon our Bessarabia SIG will also have a place in this new
platform. There are at least 3 reasons that this "old" discussion group
cannot handle:
- we do not need to write posts in plain text;
- we can attach files. In the old system we would need to place them in
some repository and the message have a link to it;
- people >from different countries can post a message in their language and
we easily can translate it.

I am planning later today to post a message about Bessarabia Cemetery
project progress, and I will do it here in our Bessarabia group, and also at
the new JewishGen group, and the difference is that I will add some images
to the new group for you to know the state of the cemetery today.

Please be patient with the changes and ask questions in the new group and
also here.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia New JewishGen groups #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello everybody,

Everybody is now trying to understand how the new JewishGen group works. Of
course with all this confusion in the first month of October, even in half
of October we got 387 messages as of today. Even if you are getting digests
for every 12 message, still you should get 30 digests.

There is way that you use this group, read messages, reply, post and not see
any emails in your email box... You can use the website of the group
instead and see all messages by month, #hashtag. Here is address of that
website: https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main
Also keep in mind that the number of postings will decrease, I hope.

from the other hand there is a good reason to use this new groups, and I
hope that soon our Bessarabia SIG will also have a place in this new
platform. There are at least 3 reasons that this "old" discussion group
cannot handle:
- we do not need to write posts in plain text;
- we can attach files. In the old system we would need to place them in
some repository and the message have a link to it;
- people >from different countries can post a message in their language and
we easily can translate it.

I am planning later today to post a message about Bessarabia Cemetery
project progress, and I will do it here in our Bessarabia group, and also at
the new JewishGen group, and the difference is that I will add some images
to the new group for you to know the state of the cemetery today.

Please be patient with the changes and ask questions in the new group and
also here.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Introduction to the Bessarabia SIG website - How to find your town page #bessarabia

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hi everybody,

To follow up on my first post, today we'll talk about town pages and how to find
them.

The core of our website consists of town pages, one for each of almost 150
towns in our database. Each town page is a portal to all we know about a town.

In addition to the basic geographic information (coordinates, map, names...)
you'll find there the list of all projects, datasets, articles, links, names, etc.,
related to this town.

In order to keep the page readable, the number of items of each topics we
display is limited. However, if there are more available, you will find below
each section a link to the full list (i.e. "see more Kishinev projects").

We have tried to make it easy for you to get to any of the town pages. Use
any of these three methods.

- If you know the district your town is in, use the clickable maps. Click on the
town's district and finally click on the town name. This takes you to your town
page. At each step you will see, successively, a district map, and the town
page. We'll describe these later.

- If you don't know your province or district but you have a pretty good idea of
how the town name is spelled, click on Towns and Districts on the top menu bar.
from the secondary menu, click on 'Alphabetical list of towns'. You will see a
browsable Town Page directory. Select the first letter of your town name to jump
to that section of the directory. Browse through the list and click on your town
name. This takes you to your town page. In the list, you will notice that some
towns have 'flags' next to the town name. If a flag is present it indicates that the
town has a "Town Leader" (T), a KehilaLinks owner (K), a Project List (P) and/or
a Document Collection (D). The next article will describe Document Collections
and Project Lists.

- If you are not sure how your town name is spelled and you don't know its
province and district, use the town name search box. It is in the upper right
corner of every web page on our site. This is especially useful if your town had
several different and dissimilar names. For example, at different times, Kishinev
was also known as Chisinau as well as in other languages like Yiddish,
Polish... Type any of these names into the search box, and a page will open
showing you all entries in the town database with any of those names. Select
the one you want by clicking on the View button at the right side of the listing.
This will take you to your town page. To produce a list of all towns in our
database, just leave the town search box blank (attention, you have to click on
the box to remove the default text 'Town Search') and click the GO button next
to the box. The resulting list has 7 columns plus a View button (the town,
district and province name in 1900, the modern town name, name in 1930 and
1950, and other names for the town). Clicking on the View button on a town
line takes you to the Bessarabia SIG Town Page.

If none of these methods work for you, try using the "JewishGen Gazetteer"
(http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp) and the JewishGen
Communities Database (http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp)
to obtain more information about your town and how its name was spelled.
(Hint: Use Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex rather than Beider-Morse. D-M Soundex
seems to be more accurate for town names.)


If after all this you still don't find your town on our website, it might be that
we don't have it registered on our towns database. That could be either because
the town is not on the Bessarabia SIG geographic area of research or we didn't
know that the town had a Jewish community. In this last case, please contact
one of our Leadership members so we can add the town to our database.

Ariel Parkansky


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Introduction to the Bessarabia SIG website - How to find your town page #bessarabia

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hi everybody,

To follow up on my first post, today we'll talk about town pages and how to find
them.

The core of our website consists of town pages, one for each of almost 150
towns in our database. Each town page is a portal to all we know about a town.

In addition to the basic geographic information (coordinates, map, names...)
you'll find there the list of all projects, datasets, articles, links, names, etc.,
related to this town.

In order to keep the page readable, the number of items of each topics we
display is limited. However, if there are more available, you will find below
each section a link to the full list (i.e. "see more Kishinev projects").

We have tried to make it easy for you to get to any of the town pages. Use
any of these three methods.

- If you know the district your town is in, use the clickable maps. Click on the
town's district and finally click on the town name. This takes you to your town
page. At each step you will see, successively, a district map, and the town
page. We'll describe these later.

- If you don't know your province or district but you have a pretty good idea of
how the town name is spelled, click on Towns and Districts on the top menu bar.
from the secondary menu, click on 'Alphabetical list of towns'. You will see a
browsable Town Page directory. Select the first letter of your town name to jump
to that section of the directory. Browse through the list and click on your town
name. This takes you to your town page. In the list, you will notice that some
towns have 'flags' next to the town name. If a flag is present it indicates that the
town has a "Town Leader" (T), a KehilaLinks owner (K), a Project List (P) and/or
a Document Collection (D). The next article will describe Document Collections
and Project Lists.

- If you are not sure how your town name is spelled and you don't know its
province and district, use the town name search box. It is in the upper right
corner of every web page on our site. This is especially useful if your town had
several different and dissimilar names. For example, at different times, Kishinev
was also known as Chisinau as well as in other languages like Yiddish,
Polish... Type any of these names into the search box, and a page will open
showing you all entries in the town database with any of those names. Select
the one you want by clicking on the View button at the right side of the listing.
This will take you to your town page. To produce a list of all towns in our
database, just leave the town search box blank (attention, you have to click on
the box to remove the default text 'Town Search') and click the GO button next
to the box. The resulting list has 7 columns plus a View button (the town,
district and province name in 1900, the modern town name, name in 1930 and
1950, and other names for the town). Clicking on the View button on a town
line takes you to the Bessarabia SIG Town Page.

If none of these methods work for you, try using the "JewishGen Gazetteer"
(http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp) and the JewishGen
Communities Database (http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp)
to obtain more information about your town and how its name was spelled.
(Hint: Use Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex rather than Beider-Morse. D-M Soundex
seems to be more accurate for town names.)


If after all this you still don't find your town on our website, it might be that
we don't have it registered on our towns database. That could be either because
the town is not on the Bessarabia SIG geographic area of research or we didn't
know that the town had a Jewish community. In this last case, please contact
one of our Leadership members so we can add the town to our database.

Ariel Parkansky


Census district help?

Wendy Griswold
 

Hi, cousins. Hope you are all well.

I am using Steve Morse's tools to try to narrow down the EDs and ADs I
need, but I'm getting nowhere and wasting a lot of time and tearing my
hair out.

****Without wasting time on your end**** - you are not responsible for
my being a dumkopf - can some kind soul help me hone in on the
following:

A. 258 Lewis St., New York City,
1915, 1920, 1925, 1930, 1940. I need to see the names living at that
address (and nearby). It keeps popping up in family history in
connection with a great uncle whose death date I can't pin down. The
Steve Morse site shows nothing for 1915.

B. 313 Rivington St., New York City,
1905, 1910, 1915,
again, I need to see the names living at that address (and nearby).


Thank you for any guidance!

Wendy Griswold
Pittsfield MA

Searching: Zurawno: Blitz, Pfeiffer, any spelling
Nowy Sacz area: Wenzelberg (you wouldn't believe the spellings),
Einhorn, Shifuldrem
Ekaterinoslaw: Dwass, Garfinkel, Sorokoff


Re: Jewish Hungarian baron? #hungary

Bob Friedman
 

Another book focuses entirely on this subject:
https://www.worldcat.org/title/jewish-nobles-and-geniuses-in-modern-hungary/oclc/14564125
--
Bob Friedman
Brooklyn, NY


Re: SIG emails

Robert Hill
 

A simple thing to do that would be reassuring in this confusing transition would be to have each SIG leader send a "Test" message to their group.  That would be a quick test of the theory that, amazingly, nobody has posted anything to be sent out in several days.  (Jeff Miller above says he sent a message to the Ukraine SIG, but I am a member of that SIG and I didn't receive it.) 

Mods, is a test do-able?  (And Mods, thank you for all your efforts to modernize us)

Moderator Note: an excellent idea to assure everyone that if they are signed up for a SIG, there was no change because of the upgrade to the JewishGen Discussion Group. If you are a SIG leader, would you please send out a "test message."


Bessarabia Cemetery projects update #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello Bessarabians,

I want to update you of where we are standing with Cemetery project in our
Bessarabia/Moldova region.

- Kishinev Jewish cemetery - we have completed Sector 5 and sent 2,681
burial records with 2,441 photos to JOWBR. We have now total of 5,539
burial records with 4,977 images >from 3 sectors 2, 4 and 5). This is
probably 25-30% of all graves indexed and photographed.
-- our photographers are working now on Sector 1, 3 and 6. Although
the work is so hard. You can see your self at a clip done by Serghey
Daniliuk, who is our main photographer in Bessarabia/Moldova:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QeW3wi6gHc This is a clip mostly for the
sectors 6 and 8. If you stop at 1:21 you see an old chapel partly
destroyed.
from the map at the Burial Registry book, it is written for example that
Sector 6 has total of 3,137 graves, and >from that number 1,431 are not
identified! Look at the video and you see what is the state of that
cemetery.

- Vadu-lui-vlad (Dombrovitsa) - cemetery is almost destroyed and we were
able to read only several inscriptions. We may go to that cemetery one more
time, because part of it was not accessible. The records and images are
going to be sent to JOWBR by the end of this month.

- Lipkany Jewish cemetery (Phase 2) - this was a Clearing paths project,
and a lot of cleaning was done. Another 1000+ images are in process at the
"second" reading and confidently be sent to JOWBR in 1-2 months.

- Beltsy Jewish cemetery - another phase was done, and we received 500+
images. We will process them hopefull by the end of this year.

- Brazil, San Paulo, Cemitério_Israelita_da_Vila_Mariana. We have 500+
records (no photos) >from a cemetery registry for people >from mostly
Bessarabia and some also >from Kamenets Podolsky, Mogolev-Podolsky,
Chernovitz, Yampol. Unfortunately there are no Dates of death in that book,
and I am trying to find out if there are records, possible images of these
graves. If we have someone >from San Paulo, Brazil who can help us - that would be
very much appreciated. Please contact me directly.

- Ataki, Phase 2 will be done in spring of 2020. There are several more
cemeteries we need to work with, but I am not sure if we will have time for
that.

Please let me know if you have any questions, ideas, proposals, or you may
know a cemetery which is not in our Inventory list
https://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/files/cemetery/Inventory201909-Septembe
r.htm
please let us know.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Bessarabia Cemetery projects update #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello Bessarabians,

I want to update you of where we are standing with Cemetery project in our
Bessarabia/Moldova region.

- Kishinev Jewish cemetery - we have completed Sector 5 and sent 2,681
burial records with 2,441 photos to JOWBR. We have now total of 5,539
burial records with 4,977 images >from 3 sectors 2, 4 and 5). This is
probably 25-30% of all graves indexed and photographed.
-- our photographers are working now on Sector 1, 3 and 6. Although
the work is so hard. You can see your self at a clip done by Serghey
Daniliuk, who is our main photographer in Bessarabia/Moldova:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QeW3wi6gHc This is a clip mostly for the
sectors 6 and 8. If you stop at 1:21 you see an old chapel partly
destroyed.
from the map at the Burial Registry book, it is written for example that
Sector 6 has total of 3,137 graves, and >from that number 1,431 are not
identified! Look at the video and you see what is the state of that
cemetery.

- Vadu-lui-vlad (Dombrovitsa) - cemetery is almost destroyed and we were
able to read only several inscriptions. We may go to that cemetery one more
time, because part of it was not accessible. The records and images are
going to be sent to JOWBR by the end of this month.

- Lipkany Jewish cemetery (Phase 2) - this was a Clearing paths project,
and a lot of cleaning was done. Another 1000+ images are in process at the
"second" reading and confidently be sent to JOWBR in 1-2 months.

- Beltsy Jewish cemetery - another phase was done, and we received 500+
images. We will process them hopefull by the end of this year.

- Brazil, San Paulo, Cemitério_Israelita_da_Vila_Mariana. We have 500+
records (no photos) >from a cemetery registry for people >from mostly
Bessarabia and some also >from Kamenets Podolsky, Mogolev-Podolsky,
Chernovitz, Yampol. Unfortunately there are no Dates of death in that book,
and I am trying to find out if there are records, possible images of these
graves. If we have someone >from San Paulo, Brazil who can help us - that would be
very much appreciated. Please contact me directly.

- Ataki, Phase 2 will be done in spring of 2020. There are several more
cemeteries we need to work with, but I am not sure if we will have time for
that.

Please let me know if you have any questions, ideas, proposals, or you may
know a cemetery which is not in our Inventory list
https://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/files/cemetery/Inventory201909-Septembe
r.htm
please let us know.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Travel to Belarus #belarus

Alan H. Rosen
 

I would like to put together a cousin's trip to Belarus. I am sure that
I will need a guide who is specialized in genealogy tours. I would
appreciate any input >from members of this group.
Please email me privately at rachelkin@...

Thank you,

Alan Rosen


Belarus SIG #Belarus Travel to Belarus #belarus

Alan H. Rosen
 

I would like to put together a cousin's trip to Belarus. I am sure that
I will need a guide who is specialized in genealogy tours. I would
appreciate any input >from members of this group.
Please email me privately at rachelkin@...

Thank you,

Alan Rosen


Re: PETASKIN/ PETOSKI

Diane Jacobs
 

Also note I have an Eva who was Chava.
When searching passenger manifests also try Pat, Pot, pit and put.

Diane Jacobs 



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

--
Diane Jacobs


Re: Digests vs Daily Summary

Jeff at SG
 

I essentially agree with everything you've said and hesitated replying and adding to the unnecessary traffic except to add that according to a message I received from Plotz, the 12 message limit is apparently hardwired in the software for the 'daily digest'. I find that hard to believe but if true, that is a major defect of the new platform. However it is one likely to become less important as the traffic volume returns to normal. So things will get better.

Jeff Malka (OP)


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Ralph Baer
 

I assume that all of this discussion will soon die down, although it may pick up again when the SIGs are converted. From day 1 of the GerSIG list, which I think was about 25 years ago, I wondered why one could not type umlauted characters in the group. My name was originally Bär (although the earliest signature which I have seen from about a year after the name was adopted in 1809 reads Behr), and there are many times that it one really should post the spelling as it was used. I learned to live with it, but I was never happy with it. So I was happy when I heard things were going to change.

Some of the other changes I like. Some I don't. The ability to change fonts, insert pictures, etc., seems ridiculous to me, but I could grow to like it. I like the fact that one can get BCCs of one's posted messages and can receive copies of replies to one's posts. I also like the fact that one can add a signature. At least I like it until someone has one that is 50 lines long.

I find it hard to understand that the limit of the number of messages in a digest was hardwired and 12 was selected. It seems to me to be the type of thing which should be chosen at the discretion of the group moderator.

I also feel that a metagroup should have been setup for discussing the changes as opposed to those posts being here,


Oct. 29: genetic genealogy program at the Center for Jewish History in New York #dna

Moriah Amit
 

Please join us for the following upcoming program of interest to
those undertaking DNA testing for genealogical purposes.

Family History Today: DNA and the Golden Rule - The Law and Ethics of
Genetic Genealogy
Presented by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute
The Legal Genealogist, Judy G. Russell, offers her expert advice on
how to navigate the ethical challenges associated with DNA testing
for genealogy.

Date: October 29, 6:30 PM
Location: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street, New York,
NY 10011
Tickets: $10 general admission; $5 Center for Jewish History/Partner
members, seniors, and students; You may purchase tickets in advance
at geneticgenealogy.bpt.me or 800-838-3006.

Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Reference Librarian
Center for Jewish History (New York, NY)


DNA Research #DNA Oct. 29: genetic genealogy program at the Center for Jewish History in New York #dna

Moriah Amit
 

Please join us for the following upcoming program of interest to
those undertaking DNA testing for genealogical purposes.

Family History Today: DNA and the Golden Rule - The Law and Ethics of
Genetic Genealogy
Presented by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute
The Legal Genealogist, Judy G. Russell, offers her expert advice on
how to navigate the ethical challenges associated with DNA testing
for genealogy.

Date: October 29, 6:30 PM
Location: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street, New York,
NY 10011
Tickets: $10 general admission; $5 Center for Jewish History/Partner
members, seniors, and students; You may purchase tickets in advance
at geneticgenealogy.bpt.me or 800-838-3006.

Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Reference Librarian
Center for Jewish History (New York, NY)


Yes, this list is still functioning! #galicia

Renee Steinig
 

Those of you who subscribe to the main JewishGen Discussion Group know
that it transitioned a week ago to a new format, and there's been quite a bit
of discussion among its subscribers about the change.

A number of people have asked how the SIG lists have been affected and
some have expressed concern that they haven't heard >from us. For now,
JewishGen's special interest mailing lists, including our own, are
unchanged. Any messages that we receive are being delivered as usual,
via Lyris, in Plain Text format.

Gesher Galicia's last digest was distributed at about 2:00 a.m. U.S.
Eastern time on Friday, Oct. 11. Things have been quiet since then simply
because no one has written. We hope to hear >from you! As always, we
welcome postings related to research on Galitzianer families. Please send
any comments about the new format of the JewishGen Discussion Group
to support@... .

Wishing you all a happy, healthy, and productive new year,

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Moderator, Gesher Galicia
genmaven@...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Yes, this list is still functioning! #galicia

Renee Steinig
 

Those of you who subscribe to the main JewishGen Discussion Group know
that it transitioned a week ago to a new format, and there's been quite a bit
of discussion among its subscribers about the change.

A number of people have asked how the SIG lists have been affected and
some have expressed concern that they haven't heard >from us. For now,
JewishGen's special interest mailing lists, including our own, are
unchanged. Any messages that we receive are being delivered as usual,
via Lyris, in Plain Text format.

Gesher Galicia's last digest was distributed at about 2:00 a.m. U.S.
Eastern time on Friday, Oct. 11. Things have been quiet since then simply
because no one has written. We hope to hear >from you! As always, we
welcome postings related to research on Galitzianer families. Please send
any comments about the new format of the JewishGen Discussion Group
to support@... .

Wishing you all a happy, healthy, and productive new year,

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Moderator, Gesher Galicia
genmaven@...

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