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In the beginning... #usa

Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
 

there were 27 members of the Early American SIG. That's not too bad
for the first 24 hours. That's 1.125 per hour, so if we can keep up
that pace, we'll have 810 members by this time next month. OK, so
that might be a bit optimistic. In any case, welcome to all of you
"pioneers" who signed up right away. I set up the beginnings of a web
site a few weeks ago, and I know that some of you have looked at it
already and given me feedback. If you haven't yet, please do so. It's
at http://www.jewishgen.org/earlyamerican/ My plan is to have a
separate page for each state that somebody is researching, since the
resources and methods for research will differ somewhat by state. I
did a sort of "dummy" page for Kentucky to start with. Once we get
rolling I will redesign the pages so they look a little nicer.

What can you do to help, you ask? Several things:

1. If you have a lot of information about a particular state (or even
a semi-lot) such as URLs for state information, information about the
oldest Jewish communities, synagogues, cemeteries, etc., volunteer to
be that state's "mentor". I will be happy to put your material on a
web page and you would be the contact for anybody supplying new
information or needing guidance with research in that state (you
don't have to live there). I suggest looking at your state's GenWeb
page to get some idea of the kinds of information that might be of
use, although in a lot of cases we can just put a link to the GenWeb
page instead of duplicating what they've already done. If you don't
know what GenWeb is, maybe we need to write an infofile on that.

2. If you know anything about putting a web page together (a la
ShtetLinks), let me know. I could use some help on all these state
pages.

3. Volunteer to write up a FAQ or infofile on any topic you're
familiar with (Civil War? American Jewish Archives holdings?
Migration patterns? Early ship manifests? Making friends with the
librarian at the county historical society?)

In the meantime, send a message introducing yourself to the list
(earlyamerican@...). Please give your full name, the
city (and state for US) and country where you live, and the names
cities or counties and states along with the eras you are researching.

Here's a suggested format:

Rachel Unkefer
Charlottesville, Virginia
Researching:
KAHN, Missouri 1870-present
KAHN, Ohio County, Kentucky 1850-present
KAHN, Evansville, Indiana 1850-present
KAHN, Memphis, Tennessee 1860-present
GOLDSMITH, Pennsylvania 1856-?
GOLDSMITH, Memphis, Tennessee 1850-present
KRONENBERGER, Indiana 1860-?
KRONENBERGER, Cincinnati, Ohio 1870-?
SELIGMAN, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 18??
WEIL, New Orleans, Lousiana 1853-?

States that I know pretty much about: Tennessee (particularly
Memphis--have a few contacts there), Ohio (grew up there), Kentucky
(medium amount).

Again, welcome, and thanks for joining.

Rachel
Rachel Unkefer
Charlottesville, VA
runkefer@...


Early American family list #usa

Rosanne D. Leeson <leeson1@...>
 

This is >from Rosanne Leeson, Los ALtos, CA.

Here is a list of the Early American families that I am researching:

LEVY, Amsterdam, Holl. > Richmond, VA 1818
LEVY, Amsterdam > Richmond > New Orleans > Houston, TX 1818, 1831,
1840
DREYFUSS Altdorf, Baden > Paducah, KY 1870
DREYFUSS Hechingen, Hohenzollern > Paducah, KY 1868
BERNHEIM Schmieheim, Baden > Paducah, KY > Louisville, KY 1868,
1870's

I am happy to mentor anyone looking in the Paducah, KY area, as well as
in Richmond, VA. I also have much information on the first Houston, TX
community.

Rosanne Leeson
Leeson1@...


Early American SIG #USA In the beginning... #usa

Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
 

there were 27 members of the Early American SIG. That's not too bad
for the first 24 hours. That's 1.125 per hour, so if we can keep up
that pace, we'll have 810 members by this time next month. OK, so
that might be a bit optimistic. In any case, welcome to all of you
"pioneers" who signed up right away. I set up the beginnings of a web
site a few weeks ago, and I know that some of you have looked at it
already and given me feedback. If you haven't yet, please do so. It's
at http://www.jewishgen.org/earlyamerican/ My plan is to have a
separate page for each state that somebody is researching, since the
resources and methods for research will differ somewhat by state. I
did a sort of "dummy" page for Kentucky to start with. Once we get
rolling I will redesign the pages so they look a little nicer.

What can you do to help, you ask? Several things:

1. If you have a lot of information about a particular state (or even
a semi-lot) such as URLs for state information, information about the
oldest Jewish communities, synagogues, cemeteries, etc., volunteer to
be that state's "mentor". I will be happy to put your material on a
web page and you would be the contact for anybody supplying new
information or needing guidance with research in that state (you
don't have to live there). I suggest looking at your state's GenWeb
page to get some idea of the kinds of information that might be of
use, although in a lot of cases we can just put a link to the GenWeb
page instead of duplicating what they've already done. If you don't
know what GenWeb is, maybe we need to write an infofile on that.

2. If you know anything about putting a web page together (a la
ShtetLinks), let me know. I could use some help on all these state
pages.

3. Volunteer to write up a FAQ or infofile on any topic you're
familiar with (Civil War? American Jewish Archives holdings?
Migration patterns? Early ship manifests? Making friends with the
librarian at the county historical society?)

In the meantime, send a message introducing yourself to the list
(earlyamerican@...). Please give your full name, the
city (and state for US) and country where you live, and the names
cities or counties and states along with the eras you are researching.

Here's a suggested format:

Rachel Unkefer
Charlottesville, Virginia
Researching:
KAHN, Missouri 1870-present
KAHN, Ohio County, Kentucky 1850-present
KAHN, Evansville, Indiana 1850-present
KAHN, Memphis, Tennessee 1860-present
GOLDSMITH, Pennsylvania 1856-?
GOLDSMITH, Memphis, Tennessee 1850-present
KRONENBERGER, Indiana 1860-?
KRONENBERGER, Cincinnati, Ohio 1870-?
SELIGMAN, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 18??
WEIL, New Orleans, Lousiana 1853-?

States that I know pretty much about: Tennessee (particularly
Memphis--have a few contacts there), Ohio (grew up there), Kentucky
(medium amount).

Again, welcome, and thanks for joining.

Rachel
Rachel Unkefer
Charlottesville, VA
runkefer@...


Early American SIG #USA Early American family list #usa

Rosanne D. Leeson <leeson1@...>
 

This is >from Rosanne Leeson, Los ALtos, CA.

Here is a list of the Early American families that I am researching:

LEVY, Amsterdam, Holl. > Richmond, VA 1818
LEVY, Amsterdam > Richmond > New Orleans > Houston, TX 1818, 1831,
1840
DREYFUSS Altdorf, Baden > Paducah, KY 1870
DREYFUSS Hechingen, Hohenzollern > Paducah, KY 1868
BERNHEIM Schmieheim, Baden > Paducah, KY > Louisville, KY 1868,
1870's

I am happy to mentor anyone looking in the Paducah, KY area, as well as
in Richmond, VA. I also have much information on the first Houston, TX
community.

Rosanne Leeson
Leeson1@...


Re: Hamburg Records-Arrival info #lithuania

JFIBEL@...
 

There were different levels of documents.

FYI, the transportation of emigrants >from all over Europe to the U S was very big business. The steamship companies made most of their money >from steerage class passengers. (There were a lot of them and they packed them in) They sent their agents into Eastern Europe to peddle tickets and this was a very competitive cash business. So the tickets and their names originated way before the voyage. Furthermore, when the emigrant arrived here and if he was rejected for any reason the steamship company was required to return him without extra charge. So they had an informal health check before they got on board.

The Immigration passenger manifests were photographed many years ago.
The photography was not checked for quality so what was done is what we have. After they were photographed the originals were thrown away so
there is no place to go to check. One complete Manifest for a vessel I
was searching had black pages with nothing visible. The camera must have been broken for this ship's recording.

In Hamburg and other major emigration ports there were temporary "hotels" for these emigrants at the ports. There were also records kept in these municipal "hotels."

An excellent little book about this whole matter is They Came in Ships by
John P. Colletta, PhD and published by Ancestry which describes all about
arrivals and this process. Dr. Colletta is a good speaker to have at a
meeting.

I have seen all of the books mentioned in our discussion listed at one time
or another in Avotaynu and other Genealogy book stores (I get no commission)

Joe Fibel


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Hamburg Records-Arrival info #lithuania

JFIBEL@...
 

There were different levels of documents.

FYI, the transportation of emigrants >from all over Europe to the U S was very big business. The steamship companies made most of their money >from steerage class passengers. (There were a lot of them and they packed them in) They sent their agents into Eastern Europe to peddle tickets and this was a very competitive cash business. So the tickets and their names originated way before the voyage. Furthermore, when the emigrant arrived here and if he was rejected for any reason the steamship company was required to return him without extra charge. So they had an informal health check before they got on board.

The Immigration passenger manifests were photographed many years ago.
The photography was not checked for quality so what was done is what we have. After they were photographed the originals were thrown away so
there is no place to go to check. One complete Manifest for a vessel I
was searching had black pages with nothing visible. The camera must have been broken for this ship's recording.

In Hamburg and other major emigration ports there were temporary "hotels" for these emigrants at the ports. There were also records kept in these municipal "hotels."

An excellent little book about this whole matter is They Came in Ships by
John P. Colletta, PhD and published by Ancestry which describes all about
arrivals and this process. Dr. Colletta is a good speaker to have at a
meeting.

I have seen all of the books mentioned in our discussion listed at one time
or another in Avotaynu and other Genealogy book stores (I get no commission)

Joe Fibel


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SHER/GOLDSTEIN/LEVIN #lithuania

Jean Holz <jholz@...>
 

Hi, all. This is an update. On Friday - on a whim - I called my 88 year
old father and asked him if he knew the name of his now deceased cousin's
children in Atlanta. My father is an engineer by education and never throws anything away. He found a small notebook he kept >from my son's bar mitzvah in 1981. In that notebook, he had a name, address and phone number. On another whim - I sent a letter on Friday to my
cousin. Today, she called me very excited to have learned that she had
more family. She then gave me the name and phone number of her 93+ year old aunt in Chicago.

The only thing I knew when I started this whole genealogy 'thing' nearly three years ago were the names of two of my grandfather's brothers (Hyman and Louis). I now know the names of my great uncle Louis Sher Goldstein's 8 children and their spouses' names and their children's names.

My g-grandfather sired 19 children. I now know the names of half, as well
as the names of some of their children, and theirs!

I also have confirmation that the Sher Family changed their name to Goldstein (probably purchasing papers) to escape >from the Czar's servitude. I also have the names of some of Louis's aunts and uncles and their children. Here they are:

LOUIS GOLDSTEIN (Tailor by trade as many Shers were). married ANNA.
Child: FRANCES GOLDSTEIN. Married ?EISENSTADT.
Son, RICHARD EISENSTADT(archeologist?)married MARILYN? and they had a
daughter.
Son, JEROME EISENSTADT(Researcher at Harvard University) married MINDY.
Child: JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN. b. June 1903. D. 1987. Married DOROTHY
GOLDSTEIN. (cousins?? - both were Goldsteins)
Daugter, MARILYN GOLDSTEIN. m. ALVIN HURWITZ- Atlanta, GA.
Daughters, BONITA ANNE and JILL HURWITZ. Bonnie had daughter MEGAN.
Child: BERNICE GOLDSTEIN. Chicago - married SAMUEL GALLER.
Daughter and Son, ROBERTA AND RONALD GALLER
Child: HELEN GOLDSTEIN. married ABRAHAM POLONSKY (SP?).
Daughters, ENID AND SHEILA
Child: PHILIP GOLDSTEIN MORE. Married SYLVIA? (Chattanooga, TN?)
Son and Daughter, MICHAEL AND ANDREA MORE
Child: MARY GOLDSTEIN. Died in childhood.
Child: SIDNEY GOLDSTEIN MORE. Married GERTRUDE.
Daughter. Sidney was in the Navy in WWII and his ship was sunk.
Child: EUGEN GOLDSTEIN MORE. Married NETTIE?

It appears that the Goldsteins and Shers who left Quincy, Massachusetts
and moved to Chicago eventually lost contact with the Quincy families. This explains why we don't know more of our families. Also, the first families were all very large. In fact, it is entirely plausible that my g-grandfather, Yona Sher's, 19 children were so spread apart that the oldest probably didn't even know the youngest.

If anyone recognizes any of these names, please contact me. I will be
more than happy to share my tree with all the Sher / Goldstein / Levin / Mogul /Pinckney researchers.

YONAH SHER'S known children were: JOSEPH SHER GOLDSTEIN, HYMAN SHER
GOLDSTEIN, LOUIS SHER GOLDSTEIN, MERA LIEBE GOLDSTEIN MILLER?, RACHEL SHER
GOLDSTEIN KATZ, ROSE SHER GOLDSTEIN, SOPHIE SHER GOLDSTEIN WEISSMAN, YANKEL
SHER (went to Cape Town, South Africa. There may also have been a Reuben, aJacob and a Max but those are as yet unconfirmed.

Another parallel line (probably siblings families) to my grandfather want to South Africa >from Lithuania/Russia including another Jona Sher (Michael,
Goldie, Philip), as well as Arthur Sher's family (his son is Anthony Sher).

I hav been told that all the Sher/Shor/Scher, etc families >from Plunge,
Pikelia and Shavel were all related. Still working on the connections.

Best regards to all associated with JewishGen. This is a wonderful
orgnization and we are all very fortunate to have it 'working' for us.

Jean Holz
jholz@...
Burke, VA, USA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania SHER/GOLDSTEIN/LEVIN #lithuania

Jean Holz <jholz@...>
 

Hi, all. This is an update. On Friday - on a whim - I called my 88 year
old father and asked him if he knew the name of his now deceased cousin's
children in Atlanta. My father is an engineer by education and never throws anything away. He found a small notebook he kept >from my son's bar mitzvah in 1981. In that notebook, he had a name, address and phone number. On another whim - I sent a letter on Friday to my
cousin. Today, she called me very excited to have learned that she had
more family. She then gave me the name and phone number of her 93+ year old aunt in Chicago.

The only thing I knew when I started this whole genealogy 'thing' nearly three years ago were the names of two of my grandfather's brothers (Hyman and Louis). I now know the names of my great uncle Louis Sher Goldstein's 8 children and their spouses' names and their children's names.

My g-grandfather sired 19 children. I now know the names of half, as well
as the names of some of their children, and theirs!

I also have confirmation that the Sher Family changed their name to Goldstein (probably purchasing papers) to escape >from the Czar's servitude. I also have the names of some of Louis's aunts and uncles and their children. Here they are:

LOUIS GOLDSTEIN (Tailor by trade as many Shers were). married ANNA.
Child: FRANCES GOLDSTEIN. Married ?EISENSTADT.
Son, RICHARD EISENSTADT(archeologist?)married MARILYN? and they had a
daughter.
Son, JEROME EISENSTADT(Researcher at Harvard University) married MINDY.
Child: JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN. b. June 1903. D. 1987. Married DOROTHY
GOLDSTEIN. (cousins?? - both were Goldsteins)
Daugter, MARILYN GOLDSTEIN. m. ALVIN HURWITZ- Atlanta, GA.
Daughters, BONITA ANNE and JILL HURWITZ. Bonnie had daughter MEGAN.
Child: BERNICE GOLDSTEIN. Chicago - married SAMUEL GALLER.
Daughter and Son, ROBERTA AND RONALD GALLER
Child: HELEN GOLDSTEIN. married ABRAHAM POLONSKY (SP?).
Daughters, ENID AND SHEILA
Child: PHILIP GOLDSTEIN MORE. Married SYLVIA? (Chattanooga, TN?)
Son and Daughter, MICHAEL AND ANDREA MORE
Child: MARY GOLDSTEIN. Died in childhood.
Child: SIDNEY GOLDSTEIN MORE. Married GERTRUDE.
Daughter. Sidney was in the Navy in WWII and his ship was sunk.
Child: EUGEN GOLDSTEIN MORE. Married NETTIE?

It appears that the Goldsteins and Shers who left Quincy, Massachusetts
and moved to Chicago eventually lost contact with the Quincy families. This explains why we don't know more of our families. Also, the first families were all very large. In fact, it is entirely plausible that my g-grandfather, Yona Sher's, 19 children were so spread apart that the oldest probably didn't even know the youngest.

If anyone recognizes any of these names, please contact me. I will be
more than happy to share my tree with all the Sher / Goldstein / Levin / Mogul /Pinckney researchers.

YONAH SHER'S known children were: JOSEPH SHER GOLDSTEIN, HYMAN SHER
GOLDSTEIN, LOUIS SHER GOLDSTEIN, MERA LIEBE GOLDSTEIN MILLER?, RACHEL SHER
GOLDSTEIN KATZ, ROSE SHER GOLDSTEIN, SOPHIE SHER GOLDSTEIN WEISSMAN, YANKEL
SHER (went to Cape Town, South Africa. There may also have been a Reuben, aJacob and a Max but those are as yet unconfirmed.

Another parallel line (probably siblings families) to my grandfather want to South Africa >from Lithuania/Russia including another Jona Sher (Michael,
Goldie, Philip), as well as Arthur Sher's family (his son is Anthony Sher).

I hav been told that all the Sher/Shor/Scher, etc families >from Plunge,
Pikelia and Shavel were all related. Still working on the connections.

Best regards to all associated with JewishGen. This is a wonderful
orgnization and we are all very fortunate to have it 'working' for us.

Jean Holz
jholz@...
Burke, VA, USA

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1890 Aliyah #lithuania

stephen calhoun <scalho1@...>
 

Dear Litvaksiggers:

My gggrandfather, after making the trek >from Lithuania
(Kudirkos-Naumiestis) to Syracuse, NY as an elderly man, then shipped off
to Israel when his wife died. He probably left the U.S. about 1890, and
may have lived to about 1900, which would make him about 90 when he
died.

My questions are: 1. Would the U.S. have any record of his
departure? 2. Is anyone familiar with a cemetery in Jerusalem called
Mount Olive, or some variation of that name? Thank you.

Steve Calhoun scalho1@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania 1890 Aliyah #lithuania

stephen calhoun <scalho1@...>
 

Dear Litvaksiggers:

My gggrandfather, after making the trek >from Lithuania
(Kudirkos-Naumiestis) to Syracuse, NY as an elderly man, then shipped off
to Israel when his wife died. He probably left the U.S. about 1890, and
may have lived to about 1900, which would make him about 90 when he
died.

My questions are: 1. Would the U.S. have any record of his
departure? 2. Is anyone familiar with a cemetery in Jerusalem called
Mount Olive, or some variation of that name? Thank you.

Steve Calhoun scalho1@...


Alien Registration #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

In response to the inquiry on British Alien Registration, there was
registration in WWI and WWII. Registration was a result of legislation
passed in 1914 which included provisions for alien restriction and
internment as well.

A book on this topic is "The Internment of Aliens in Twentieth Century
Britain" edited by David Cesarani and Tony Kushner.

More on this topic can be found in the JewishGen Archives.

Alien Registration Records >from all localities in Great Britain are not
always available as some have been destroyed, i.e. the City of Salford is
available, but not the City of Manchester. The Home Office and the Public
Record Office (PRO) have what records are available. Some records may be
found in the local constabularies.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Alien Registration #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

In response to the inquiry on British Alien Registration, there was
registration in WWI and WWII. Registration was a result of legislation
passed in 1914 which included provisions for alien restriction and
internment as well.

A book on this topic is "The Internment of Aliens in Twentieth Century
Britain" edited by David Cesarani and Tony Kushner.

More on this topic can be found in the JewishGen Archives.

Alien Registration Records >from all localities in Great Britain are not
always available as some have been destroyed, i.e. the City of Salford is
available, but not the City of Manchester. The Home Office and the Public
Record Office (PRO) have what records are available. Some records may be
found in the local constabularies.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


KUPISHOK SIG #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

In response to Linda Higgins' inquiry regarding Kupishok, now known as
Kupiskis, Lithuania, she can do the following:

1. Join the Kupishok SIG which has been in existence for a number of years, serves as a landsmannschaft for individuals either born in Kupishok or who are descendants of those who were. The SIG obtains records as well as pertinent information relevant to Kupishok prior to the destruction of the community in the summer and fall of 1941. This includes cemetery records >from Kupishok, the U.S. and SA, personal histories and history books, a yizkor book, Holocaust victims list, photographs, and other materials as they become available.

2. Go to the Kupishok ShtetLink page on JewishGen which contains a majority of the information gathered for the Kupishok SIG. More information is in the pipeline to be placed on the site pending the
return of our Webmaster >from vacation.

3. Join the Ukmerge District Group on the Litvak SIG.

4. Look in the Litvak SIG All-Lithuania Database.

5. Look up your family name or the town on the JGFF.

6. Look in the JewishGen Archives for your family name and town.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania KUPISHOK SIG #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

In response to Linda Higgins' inquiry regarding Kupishok, now known as
Kupiskis, Lithuania, she can do the following:

1. Join the Kupishok SIG which has been in existence for a number of years, serves as a landsmannschaft for individuals either born in Kupishok or who are descendants of those who were. The SIG obtains records as well as pertinent information relevant to Kupishok prior to the destruction of the community in the summer and fall of 1941. This includes cemetery records >from Kupishok, the U.S. and SA, personal histories and history books, a yizkor book, Holocaust victims list, photographs, and other materials as they become available.

2. Go to the Kupishok ShtetLink page on JewishGen which contains a majority of the information gathered for the Kupishok SIG. More information is in the pipeline to be placed on the site pending the
return of our Webmaster >from vacation.

3. Join the Ukmerge District Group on the Litvak SIG.

4. Look in the Litvak SIG All-Lithuania Database.

5. Look up your family name or the town on the JGFF.

6. Look in the JewishGen Archives for your family name and town.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Re: Kupiskis records #lithuania

Peggy Freedman <peggyf@...>
 

Original message:

Can anyone tell me how I can gain access to copies of ANY records
(candle-box tax, birth records, etc)) >from Kupiskis for ANY time period?
Be sure to check out the Kupiskis ShtetlLinks page at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetLinks/kupiskis/kupishok.htm

There are lots of articles, pictures, and vital records.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Kupiskis records #lithuania

Peggy Freedman <peggyf@...>
 

Original message:

Can anyone tell me how I can gain access to copies of ANY records
(candle-box tax, birth records, etc)) >from Kupiskis for ANY time period?
Be sure to check out the Kupiskis ShtetlLinks page at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetLinks/kupiskis/kupishok.htm

There are lots of articles, pictures, and vital records.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman


Seeking ALBUCHER, Bitol, Macedonia #general

Joseph Mohr <gittemohr@...>
 

Yosef & Simcha Albucher >from Bitol, Macedonia.
How do I get records regarding them & family?
They were Holocost viuctims.
Josephg Mohr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking ALBUCHER, Bitol, Macedonia #general

Joseph Mohr <gittemohr@...>
 

Yosef & Simcha Albucher >from Bitol, Macedonia.
How do I get records regarding them & family?
They were Holocost viuctims.
Josephg Mohr