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Reseaches #belarus

veronique <veronique.goth@...>
 

Hello,

My name is Veronique GOTH and I live in France.

I'm new in your group.

I'm looking for my great great grand mother's family.

She was Rachel GUNZBURG (rough spelling), born in October 1874 in Bobruisk,
in the suburb of Sluski.
She was the daughter of GUNZBURG Itzka Davidovitch, born in Bychev in 1855,
and Freida ??, born in 1860 in Bobruisk.
It seems she had five brothers, three gone abroad and two enlisted in the
army.
She married the May 1th 1896 to GORENSKY Chaïm Yankel Abramovich, born the
May 13th 1869 in Romny and deceaded the August 28th 1905 in Kiev, where he
was engineer at the Kiev electricity factory.

She had got a son : GORENSKY Boris (my grand father) and she went in France
with him.
Here, she made her studies of dental-surgeon, and then she followed at 13
boulevard Raspail in Paris.

I sincerely thank for all help and informations you could give to me.

Véronique GOTH


Belarus SIG #Belarus Reseaches #belarus

veronique <veronique.goth@...>
 

Hello,

My name is Veronique GOTH and I live in France.

I'm new in your group.

I'm looking for my great great grand mother's family.

She was Rachel GUNZBURG (rough spelling), born in October 1874 in Bobruisk,
in the suburb of Sluski.
She was the daughter of GUNZBURG Itzka Davidovitch, born in Bychev in 1855,
and Freida ??, born in 1860 in Bobruisk.
It seems she had five brothers, three gone abroad and two enlisted in the
army.
She married the May 1th 1896 to GORENSKY Chaïm Yankel Abramovich, born the
May 13th 1869 in Romny and deceaded the August 28th 1905 in Kiev, where he
was engineer at the Kiev electricity factory.

She had got a son : GORENSKY Boris (my grand father) and she went in France
with him.
Here, she made her studies of dental-surgeon, and then she followed at 13
boulevard Raspail in Paris.

I sincerely thank for all help and informations you could give to me.

Véronique GOTH


LEBOVICS Magda, Rozsi, Bela, Moricz #general

Catherine Poscher <catherine.poscher@...>
 

Dear subscriber,

Who knew my oncles and aunties:
- LEBOVICS Magda born in Kormend, 9.10.1920. She was in the gettho in
Salgotarjan.
- LEBOVICS Rozsi, born 8.05.1923 in Kormend. She survived the gettho
(Budapest?) and married Perec KAUFMANN. They went in Munich and Los
Angeles.
- LEBOVICS Bela, born in Kormend, 18.11.1924. He was in a camp in St
Kiraly Szabadja. I have only a postcard. What happened with those young
boys? Perhaps was someone in this camp.?
- LEBOVICS Moricz, born in Kormend, 20.05.1931.

Thank you for all Ideas and answers!
Catherine

Catherine Poscher


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LEBOVICS Magda, Rozsi, Bela, Moricz #general

Catherine Poscher <catherine.poscher@...>
 

Dear subscriber,

Who knew my oncles and aunties:
- LEBOVICS Magda born in Kormend, 9.10.1920. She was in the gettho in
Salgotarjan.
- LEBOVICS Rozsi, born 8.05.1923 in Kormend. She survived the gettho
(Budapest?) and married Perec KAUFMANN. They went in Munich and Los
Angeles.
- LEBOVICS Bela, born in Kormend, 18.11.1924. He was in a camp in St
Kiraly Szabadja. I have only a postcard. What happened with those young
boys? Perhaps was someone in this camp.?
- LEBOVICS Moricz, born in Kormend, 20.05.1931.

Thank you for all Ideas and answers!
Catherine

Catherine Poscher


Camp Nailand #general

Paula Eisenstein Baker
 

I'm still looking for information about a summer camp called
"Nailand" or "Nayland."

I know now that it was a Yiddish-speaking Workmen's Circle (Arbeter Ring)
camp, and that it existed in Gillette, NJ, >from 1928 until at least 1930.

I've already asked YIVO, the Rutgers archives, the Jewish Historical
Society of MetroWest, and several other NJ historical societies. Someone
else has checked with Workmen's Circle; they have no information.

Does anyone recognize the name of the camp? Is there anyone reading who is
old enough to have gone there?

Any and all leads welcome. Private replies, please, unless they are of
interest to the group. Gmar chatima tova!

Paula Eisenstein Baker
Houston, TX
eisenbak@stthom.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Camp Nailand #general

Paula Eisenstein Baker
 

I'm still looking for information about a summer camp called
"Nailand" or "Nayland."

I know now that it was a Yiddish-speaking Workmen's Circle (Arbeter Ring)
camp, and that it existed in Gillette, NJ, >from 1928 until at least 1930.

I've already asked YIVO, the Rutgers archives, the Jewish Historical
Society of MetroWest, and several other NJ historical societies. Someone
else has checked with Workmen's Circle; they have no information.

Does anyone recognize the name of the camp? Is there anyone reading who is
old enough to have gone there?

Any and all leads welcome. Private replies, please, unless they are of
interest to the group. Gmar chatima tova!

Paula Eisenstein Baker
Houston, TX
eisenbak@stthom.edu


Re: Translation of Medical Term Needed - Google to the rescue. #poland

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Stephanie Weiner asks for a translation of the cause of death: "The term
that is written in, as best as I can make it
out, is GRUZLICA. What might GRUZLICA be?"

Please remember that Google is a very powerful search engine - I have no
knowledge of Polish, but in one second I found the following:

[Incidence of chronic cough and expectoration as well as obstructive
ventilatory disorders in patients with newly discovered pulmonary
tuberculosis]
Gruzlica. 1973 Jun;41(6):553-60. Polish. No abstract available.
PMID: 4727030 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Celia Male [UK}

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephanie Weiner" <laguna@sciti.com>
Subject: [jri-pl] Translation of Medical Term Needed

I have just received a death record, and would like to know what cause
of death was attributed to. The column heading is "Choroba i rodzaj
smierci" in what I assume is Polish, and "Krankheit und Todesart" in
German -- I'm assuming this is translated as "cause of death" or some
similar phrase. The term that is written in, as best as I can make it
out, is GRUZLICA. What might GRUZLICA be?


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Translation of Medical Term Needed - Google to the rescue. #poland

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Stephanie Weiner asks for a translation of the cause of death: "The term
that is written in, as best as I can make it
out, is GRUZLICA. What might GRUZLICA be?"

Please remember that Google is a very powerful search engine - I have no
knowledge of Polish, but in one second I found the following:

[Incidence of chronic cough and expectoration as well as obstructive
ventilatory disorders in patients with newly discovered pulmonary
tuberculosis]
Gruzlica. 1973 Jun;41(6):553-60. Polish. No abstract available.
PMID: 4727030 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Celia Male [UK}

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephanie Weiner" <laguna@sciti.com>
Subject: [jri-pl] Translation of Medical Term Needed

I have just received a death record, and would like to know what cause
of death was attributed to. The column heading is "Choroba i rodzaj
smierci" in what I assume is Polish, and "Krankheit und Todesart" in
German -- I'm assuming this is translated as "cause of death" or some
similar phrase. The term that is written in, as best as I can make it
out, is GRUZLICA. What might GRUZLICA be?


SITE CITE- New list for 2004 IAJGS Conference in Jerusalem #usa

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MODERATOR NOTE: This list will N O T post notices about the 2004
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To keep informed about the 2004 Conference in Jerusalem,
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The Israel Genealogical Society is delighted to invite you to the
IAJGS 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, which
will be held on July 4-9, 2004, in Jerusalem.

Jerusalem: home to unique archival and family history resources
including Yad VaShem, the Jewish National and University Library,
the Central Zionist Archives, the 3,000 year old Cemetery on
Mount of Olives, and more...

The hotel: The conveniently located Jerusalem Marriot Renaissance
offers a complete range of facilities and services--and special
rates for conference participants.

The program: a wide selection of lectures on family genealogy,
community studies, genealogy and DNA, Sephardic studies,
Holocaust research, genealogy for beginners and much more...

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2. Go down the page and choose JERUSALEM 2004* - A mailing list
devoted to questions and issues about the 24th IAJGS International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held in Jerusalem, July 2004
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3. Choose your subscription mode (individual mail, digest, etc.)
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Early American SIG #USA SITE CITE- New list for 2004 IAJGS Conference in Jerusalem #usa

JPLowens@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: This list will N O T post notices about the 2004
conference except those specific to Early American Research and
EA SIG meetings and events during the Jerusalem conference.
Other SIG discussion groups will probably not either.
To keep informed about the 2004 Conference in Jerusalem,
interested Early American SIG members should follow the instructions
below and subscribe to the Conference mailing list.
Questions about the conference can be posted to the list by subscribers.

=================================================================
This message is being posted on behalf of the Israel Genealogical
Society. If you have any questions or comments, please follow the
instructions below to subscribe to jerusalem2004, a mailing list
set up specifically for the conference.
=================================================================

The Israel Genealogical Society is delighted to invite you to the
IAJGS 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, which
will be held on July 4-9, 2004, in Jerusalem.

Jerusalem: home to unique archival and family history resources
including Yad VaShem, the Jewish National and University Library,
the Central Zionist Archives, the 3,000 year old Cemetery on
Mount of Olives, and more...

The hotel: The conveniently located Jerusalem Marriot Renaissance
offers a complete range of facilities and services--and special
rates for conference participants.

The program: a wide selection of lectures on family genealogy,
community studies, genealogy and DNA, Sephardic studies,
Holocaust research, genealogy for beginners and much more...

For more details, questions and discussion join our mailing list,
JERUSALEM 2004 ================================> Simply go to:

http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs_add.htm

1. Fill in your name and email

2. Go down the page and choose JERUSALEM 2004* - A mailing list
devoted to questions and issues about the 24th IAJGS International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held in Jerusalem, July 2004
[It is listed under "JewishGen Hosted Projects" along with JRI Poland]

3. Choose your subscription mode (individual mail, digest, etc.)
[The default is DIGEST - one email per day containing all the day's
messages >from this list.]

4. Click on the box at the bottom of the page that says:
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[5. You will receive a listserver generated email asking you to CONFIRM
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to any JewishGen list you must reply to this "PLEASE CONFIRM" email.
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voided. MOD1]

See you in Jerusalem in July 2004!
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24th IAJGS Conference Co-Chairs

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Jews Free School Records - Website #unitedkingdom

Jgsgbccc@...
 

Johnathan Bourchard asked about the website for the Jews Free School records.


The online images can be found by using the search facility on the Moving
Here website at
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/

The registers at the London Metropolitan Archives go up to about 1939.
However, only certain years have been digitised and indexed by pupil name and put
on the Moving Here website:
- boys admissions 1869-1893
-girls admissions 1868-1900

Wishing all a Healthy, Happy and Peaceful New Year

Sincerely

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Jews Free School Records - Website #unitedkingdom

Jgsgbccc@...
 

Johnathan Bourchard asked about the website for the Jews Free School records.


The online images can be found by using the search facility on the Moving
Here website at
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/

The registers at the London Metropolitan Archives go up to about 1939.
However, only certain years have been digitised and indexed by pupil name and put
on the Moving Here website:
- boys admissions 1869-1893
-girls admissions 1868-1900

Wishing all a Healthy, Happy and Peaceful New Year

Sincerely

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex


Re: Verifying information #hungary

Robert Neu
 

I don't follow your maths.
1. You say Rosie Klein was born in Bereg Munkacs March 10, 1862 - That
makes her 33 in 1895 when she married.

What is the source of the info? Birth records? Marriage record?

2. The 1880 Census lists her as age 28 - which doesn't match with an
1862 birth record. However she can't be in the 1880 census with that
age if she came to the States in either 1878 or 1887.

3. I don't understand the 1895 marriage date if she is listed with
children in the 1880 Census, especially without a single child match?

4. The so called age "8" on the declaration of intention sounds more
length of time in the U.S.A. (1895-1887=8.)

5. Yes, it sounds that it isn't the same family. In French we say there
is more than one donkey named "Martin".

However, they should be on the 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930 Census(es).

Robert Neu
--- milton braslow <mbraslow@stny.rr.com> wrote:

Dear HSig members:
L'shona Tova to one and all.
I am starting the New Year doubting my sanity. Information I have
about my
f/g/m ROSIE KLEIN is that she was born to Moritz and Fany (Heisler)
Klein
in Bereg Munkacs Hungary on 3/10/1862. She came to US on 6/11/1887.
She
married Marcus Merling on 11/28/1895 and had 3 children. Rachel
(1896)
Emanuel (who died as a baby) and my Dad Morris Merling (1906).
I found them in the 1880 census. They are listed as Moritz Klein,
38, wife
Fany Klein, 28, Mary dtr,15, Ignatz, son, 13, Amelia, dtr, 8,
Leopold, son,
6, Rosie, dtr, 2.
That makes her born in 1878 and about 8 yrs old when she married. I
don't
know any of her siblings names, and this could be the wrong family,
but what
are the chances
of Moritz Merling, marrying a Fany and having a child Rosie....and it
not
being the family you are researching?
I canot find the ship that is listed on her " intent" papers. SS
Varrows.
I even looked in 1878 and looked for Nov 6 because I thought an
American
might get the "Yiddish" backward....
but absolutely nothing found.
Any advice. Any help, any suggestions would be very greatly
appreciated.
The group has helped me on this before. They translated the "Berwich
Munich" to Bereg Munkacs. Such a tale!
Sincerely,
Maxine Potchinsky
Binghamton NY
Researching: HEISLER
Bereg,
Munkacs, Hungary, Romania
GALI
Bereg, Munkacs, Hungary,Romania
KLEIN
Bereg Munkacs Hungary/Romania
MERLING
Bokowina
AXELROD
Molodechno, Belarus
ZARETSKY (SARETSKY) "
"
ZALTSBERG (SALTSBERG) Kaunas,
Lithuania
POTCHINSKY (POCHINKA) Berdechiv,
Ukraine
LERNER
"
"
MALERSTEIN
Bokowina
GHYET
Berdichev, Ukraine
SNYDER
Urah? Russia/Romania
SWADE
" "
WALDENBERG
Kaunas,
Lithuania


Re: NEW BOOK "When Angels Fooled the World" #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Charles Fenyvesi: When angels fooled the world: Sources

Amazon.Com carries it in original English, and "Europa Kiado" (in Hungary)
in Hungarian translation

Leslie Eloed
California


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Verifying information #hungary

Robert Neu
 

I don't follow your maths.
1. You say Rosie Klein was born in Bereg Munkacs March 10, 1862 - That
makes her 33 in 1895 when she married.

What is the source of the info? Birth records? Marriage record?

2. The 1880 Census lists her as age 28 - which doesn't match with an
1862 birth record. However she can't be in the 1880 census with that
age if she came to the States in either 1878 or 1887.

3. I don't understand the 1895 marriage date if she is listed with
children in the 1880 Census, especially without a single child match?

4. The so called age "8" on the declaration of intention sounds more
length of time in the U.S.A. (1895-1887=8.)

5. Yes, it sounds that it isn't the same family. In French we say there
is more than one donkey named "Martin".

However, they should be on the 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930 Census(es).

Robert Neu
--- milton braslow <mbraslow@stny.rr.com> wrote:

Dear HSig members:
L'shona Tova to one and all.
I am starting the New Year doubting my sanity. Information I have
about my
f/g/m ROSIE KLEIN is that she was born to Moritz and Fany (Heisler)
Klein
in Bereg Munkacs Hungary on 3/10/1862. She came to US on 6/11/1887.
She
married Marcus Merling on 11/28/1895 and had 3 children. Rachel
(1896)
Emanuel (who died as a baby) and my Dad Morris Merling (1906).
I found them in the 1880 census. They are listed as Moritz Klein,
38, wife
Fany Klein, 28, Mary dtr,15, Ignatz, son, 13, Amelia, dtr, 8,
Leopold, son,
6, Rosie, dtr, 2.
That makes her born in 1878 and about 8 yrs old when she married. I
don't
know any of her siblings names, and this could be the wrong family,
but what
are the chances
of Moritz Merling, marrying a Fany and having a child Rosie....and it
not
being the family you are researching?
I canot find the ship that is listed on her " intent" papers. SS
Varrows.
I even looked in 1878 and looked for Nov 6 because I thought an
American
might get the "Yiddish" backward....
but absolutely nothing found.
Any advice. Any help, any suggestions would be very greatly
appreciated.
The group has helped me on this before. They translated the "Berwich
Munich" to Bereg Munkacs. Such a tale!
Sincerely,
Maxine Potchinsky
Binghamton NY
Researching: HEISLER
Bereg,
Munkacs, Hungary, Romania
GALI
Bereg, Munkacs, Hungary,Romania
KLEIN
Bereg Munkacs Hungary/Romania
MERLING
Bokowina
AXELROD
Molodechno, Belarus
ZARETSKY (SARETSKY) "
"
ZALTSBERG (SALTSBERG) Kaunas,
Lithuania
POTCHINSKY (POCHINKA) Berdechiv,
Ukraine
LERNER
"
"
MALERSTEIN
Bokowina
GHYET
Berdichev, Ukraine
SNYDER
Urah? Russia/Romania
SWADE
" "
WALDENBERG
Kaunas,
Lithuania


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: NEW BOOK "When Angels Fooled the World" #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Charles Fenyvesi: When angels fooled the world: Sources

Amazon.Com carries it in original English, and "Europa Kiado" (in Hungary)
in Hungarian translation

Leslie Eloed
California


Re: Sources of Hungarian / Hebrew printed works, music, spoken CDs, e... #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Dear Marilyn,

In a message dated 10/1/03 11:29:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
marilyns@dakotacom.net writes:
"...after my tour of the
magnificent Dohany Synagogue last week, I did not have time to examine the
items available in their little shop.

Can anyone provide a web address or other source for Hungarian or Hungarian
/ Hebrew information?

I realize this is slightly off-topic for genealogy, so I hope the moderator
will allow this one-time request."

Below, you will find a few WEB addresses, they represent organizations or
auction / shop for a variety of Judaica materials, printed etc.

If you visit them, you will find most of them are multilingual.

http://www.judaika.hu/catalog.htm
http://www.judaica.hu/index_hu.htm
http://www.makkabi.hu/judaica/index_hu.htm (you will find him on E-Bay
auctions as well)
http://www.interdnet.hu/zsido/makkabi
http://www.zsido.hu/makkabi/antikjud.htm

Leslie Eloed
California


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Sources of Hungarian / Hebrew printed works, music, spoken CDs, e... #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Dear Marilyn,

In a message dated 10/1/03 11:29:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
marilyns@dakotacom.net writes:
"...after my tour of the
magnificent Dohany Synagogue last week, I did not have time to examine the
items available in their little shop.

Can anyone provide a web address or other source for Hungarian or Hungarian
/ Hebrew information?

I realize this is slightly off-topic for genealogy, so I hope the moderator
will allow this one-time request."

Below, you will find a few WEB addresses, they represent organizations or
auction / shop for a variety of Judaica materials, printed etc.

If you visit them, you will find most of them are multilingual.

http://www.judaika.hu/catalog.htm
http://www.judaica.hu/index_hu.htm
http://www.makkabi.hu/judaica/index_hu.htm (you will find him on E-Bay
auctions as well)
http://www.interdnet.hu/zsido/makkabi
http://www.zsido.hu/makkabi/antikjud.htm

Leslie Eloed
California


Re: From Stropkov to Jerusalem #hungary

Robert Neu
 

I don't know specifics. Though my general understanding is that you did
not need any passport or visa prior to 1914. I would also direct the
question to the JRS and other Jewish societies in Israel.

That doesn't mean that you did not need to meet residency requirements.

Robert Neu
<snip>

----- Original Message -----
From: "alex p miller" <alex-miller@juno.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: 23 September 2003 2:26 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Re: >from Stropkov to Jerusalem


My GGM came to (then Turkish/Ottoman) Jerusalem in 1907 to die.
1)Would she have needed a Hungarian/Austrian passport or other
travel > document?
Shalom Avi,

Did you ever get an answer to this question? I often wondered about
this,
what where the regulations for travel prior to 1914!

The MOrmons have films on passports of Austrian subjects, but there
is no
sorting of any kind and is not by religion. So it is a r e
a l
haystack

Best Regards,

Alex Miller, Reading, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: From Stropkov to Jerusalem #hungary

Robert Neu
 

I don't know specifics. Though my general understanding is that you did
not need any passport or visa prior to 1914. I would also direct the
question to the JRS and other Jewish societies in Israel.

That doesn't mean that you did not need to meet residency requirements.

Robert Neu
<snip>

----- Original Message -----
From: "alex p miller" <alex-miller@juno.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: 23 September 2003 2:26 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Re: >from Stropkov to Jerusalem


My GGM came to (then Turkish/Ottoman) Jerusalem in 1907 to die.
1)Would she have needed a Hungarian/Austrian passport or other
travel > document?
Shalom Avi,

Did you ever get an answer to this question? I often wondered about
this,
what where the regulations for travel prior to 1914!

The MOrmons have films on passports of Austrian subjects, but there
is no
sorting of any kind and is not by religion. So it is a r e
a l
haystack

Best Regards,

Alex Miller, Reading, PA