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Re: Movie on Ukraine Visit #general

ANNE FENDRICH <AFENDRICH@...>
 

Yes, the film is "Everything is Illuminated." It is partially fantasy, but
I found a good deal of truth in it and some inspiration. The hero of the
story is a "collector" who accumulates mementos as he goes through life.
Although some of his mementos are bizarre, I find that I'm a collector as
well having my father's doggerel poetry, my mother-in-law's Pioneer Days
costume, my aunt's oil portrait, etc. As genealogists we are all
collector's in hopes of recapturing the lives of our forebears. The humor
at the beginning of the movie contrasts starkly with the history of the
grandfather's shtetl and of the final revelation of his guide's identity.

The reviewers didn't like it nearly as well, but I hope this is helpful

Anne Fendrich
President, JGS of Colorado

FENDRICH, PRAGER, PERCHONIK, Galicia
CHASON, ...EN, ...IN, Ukraine
GILBERG, ELBLING, DZIEGECKI, YELLEN, etc., Sokolow Podlaski, Poland

----- Original Message -----
From: < JOECYP@aol.com >
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:36 AM
Subject: Movie on Ukraine Visit

Could anyone please inform me of the recent movie about someone who is
visiting his ancestral home in Ukraine. It is not a documentary.

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
MINOWITZKI, TOBIASZ - Belarus
HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM - Galicia


Land Records in 18th Century Lithuania/Prussia #lithuania

ANURICK@...
 

Are the land records of Lithuania and Prussia >from the late 1700s still in
existence and have any been translated and placed in the internet? I'm
researching a story in our family that an ancestor living in the Suwalk
gubernia of Lithuania/Prussia in the late 1700s was given a land grant by
Frederick the Great.

Rick Ford
West Palm Beach, FL
(aka Wilma's playground)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Movie on Ukraine Visit #general

ANNE FENDRICH <AFENDRICH@...>
 

Yes, the film is "Everything is Illuminated." It is partially fantasy, but
I found a good deal of truth in it and some inspiration. The hero of the
story is a "collector" who accumulates mementos as he goes through life.
Although some of his mementos are bizarre, I find that I'm a collector as
well having my father's doggerel poetry, my mother-in-law's Pioneer Days
costume, my aunt's oil portrait, etc. As genealogists we are all
collector's in hopes of recapturing the lives of our forebears. The humor
at the beginning of the movie contrasts starkly with the history of the
grandfather's shtetl and of the final revelation of his guide's identity.

The reviewers didn't like it nearly as well, but I hope this is helpful

Anne Fendrich
President, JGS of Colorado

FENDRICH, PRAGER, PERCHONIK, Galicia
CHASON, ...EN, ...IN, Ukraine
GILBERG, ELBLING, DZIEGECKI, YELLEN, etc., Sokolow Podlaski, Poland

----- Original Message -----
From: < JOECYP@aol.com >
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:36 AM
Subject: Movie on Ukraine Visit

Could anyone please inform me of the recent movie about someone who is
visiting his ancestral home in Ukraine. It is not a documentary.

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
MINOWITZKI, TOBIASZ - Belarus
HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM - Galicia


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Land Records in 18th Century Lithuania/Prussia #lithuania

ANURICK@...
 

Are the land records of Lithuania and Prussia >from the late 1700s still in
existence and have any been translated and placed in the internet? I'm
researching a story in our family that an ancestor living in the Suwalk
gubernia of Lithuania/Prussia in the late 1700s was given a land grant by
Frederick the Great.

Rick Ford
West Palm Beach, FL
(aka Wilma's playground)


Brest Litovsk records #lithuania

LJTRS@...
 

Can anyone tell me where I can find the old archival records for Brest
Litovsk and also Zelva? I have a college friend who lives in Minsk
who is willing to search the archives for me but I am unsure if Brest
or Zelva will be there. If they are, can anyone tell me how to help
him look? I am sure it won't be easy.

Rishy Ruran Savin
Researching FIXEL, MINTZ, SEGALL in Mikulince, Tarnopol, Galicia
PERELMUTER, KAPLAN, KREINES in Zelva, Brest Litovsk,
Volkovysk,Lithuania

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Search Miriam Weiner's Routes to Routes Foundation
Archival Database at www.rtrfoundation.org to see what records exist
for a town and in what archive they are held. Since both Brest and
Zelva are in present-day Belarus, you should post your question about
research in the Minsk Archive on the Discussion Group of Belarus SIG.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Brest Litovsk records #lithuania

LJTRS@...
 

Can anyone tell me where I can find the old archival records for Brest
Litovsk and also Zelva? I have a college friend who lives in Minsk
who is willing to search the archives for me but I am unsure if Brest
or Zelva will be there. If they are, can anyone tell me how to help
him look? I am sure it won't be easy.

Rishy Ruran Savin
Researching FIXEL, MINTZ, SEGALL in Mikulince, Tarnopol, Galicia
PERELMUTER, KAPLAN, KREINES in Zelva, Brest Litovsk,
Volkovysk,Lithuania

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Search Miriam Weiner's Routes to Routes Foundation
Archival Database at www.rtrfoundation.org to see what records exist
for a town and in what archive they are held. Since both Brest and
Zelva are in present-day Belarus, you should post your question about
research in the Minsk Archive on the Discussion Group of Belarus SIG.


Re: Race. Questions 6 and 12. USCensusBureau http://www.census.gov/acs #general

Don Saklad <dsaklad@...>
 

I'm looking for what genealogical expertise would lend to a
question that I've not been able to get a good answer for
anywhere else yet...

For Jews what are the varied ways we might answer
the USCensusBureau http://www.census.gov/acs questions 6 and 12
at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/2fa3eb5c854878b2


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Race. Questions 6 and 12. USCensusBureau http://www.census.gov/acs #general

Don Saklad <dsaklad@...>
 

I'm looking for what genealogical expertise would lend to a
question that I've not been able to get a good answer for
anywhere else yet...

For Jews what are the varied ways we might answer
the USCensusBureau http://www.census.gov/acs questions 6 and 12
at
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/2fa3eb5c854878b2


Re: frenchsig digest: October 27, 2005 #france

William R. Alschuler <walschulr@...>
 

Dear Mr. Lebensold,

On 28 October you wrote:

Charles LEBENSOLD (as Karl) appears in the Auschwitz arrival
lists for 22
June 1942 as Prisoner #40947. He is listed as having been born
in Paris
6e, resided Paris XI.

My question is: Are there, somewhere, copies of birth
certificates for Paris
VI, that might provide me with - among other things - the names
of
Charles/Karl's parents? Or lists of residents of Paris XI?

Thank you.

Peter Lebensold
Toronto, Canada

There are birth certificates, available on microfilm, at the Archives de la
Seine, at 75 - SEINE / PARIS 18, Bd Sérurier, 75019 Paris, tel.
011-331-.53.72.41.23, at the northeast corner of Paris. You will need to
consult them yourself, or send a researcher. They are not available over the
internet. You will have to scan the films over the date range you estimate
unless you have an exact birth date. You may have to get an ID card, which
would require a passport type picture, so go prepared with one. There are
also wedding and death certificates. Normally a fair amount of information
is included, and sometimes even the witness list is of interest.

It may be that the records are too late to be there (see the website), in
which case they will be at the Mairie (little city hall) for the
appropriate arrondissement. In that case, thay may do a search based on a
mailed request.

Yours,

Bill Alschuler
50 Delano Ave.
San Francisco, Ca. 94112 tel 415-725-3800








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Digest for Thursday, October 27, 2005.<br><br>1. Paris Birth
Records<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Subject:
Paris Birth Records<br>From: &quot;Peter Lebensold&quot;
&lt;peter@lebensold.com&gt;<br>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:05:28
-0400<br>X-Message-Number: 1<br><br>Charles LEBENSOLD (as Karl) appears in
the Auschwitz arrival lists for 22<br>June 1942 as Prisoner #40947. He is
listed as having been born in Paris<br>6e, resided Paris XI.<br><br>My
question is: Are there, somewhere, copies of birth certificates for
Paris<br>VI, that might provide me with - among other things - the names
of<br>Charles/Karl's parents? Or lists of residents of Paris
XI?<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>Peter Lebensold<br>Toronto,
Canada<br><br><br><br><br><br>---<br><br>END OF
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Re: frenchsig digest: October 27, 2005 #france

laurphil@...
 

The French Civil Birth Records (as well as the Marriage Civil Records) of
less than 100 years are not freely available, excepted for the person
concerned by the record, his/her direct ascendants or descendants.
The other persons can only obtain an extract of the record without mention
of the names of the parents.

If the Birth Civil Record you are searching for dates of more than 100
years, there is no problem. The only problem is to find the precise date of
the birth.

There is no "lists of residents" for each "arrondissement" of Paris, but
there are populations censuses for 1926, 1931, 1936 and 1946. A research in
these records can be done if you know the address.

For more precision, you can contact me privately.

Sincerely,
Laurence Abensur-Hazan (Mrs)



Subject: Paris Birth Records
From: "Peter Lebensold" <peter@lebensold.com>
Charles LEBENSOLD (as Karl) appears in the Auschwitz arrival lists for 22
June 1942 as Prisoner #40947. He is listed as having been born in Paris
6e, resided Paris XI.

My question is: Are there, somewhere, copies of birth certificates for
Paris
VI, that might provide me with - among other things - the names of
Charles/Karl's parents? Or lists of residents of Paris XI?

Peter Lebensold
Toronto, Canada


French SIG #France RE: frenchsig digest: October 27, 2005 #france

William R. Alschuler <walschulr@...>
 

Dear Mr. Lebensold,

On 28 October you wrote:

Charles LEBENSOLD (as Karl) appears in the Auschwitz arrival
lists for 22
June 1942 as Prisoner #40947. He is listed as having been born
in Paris
6e, resided Paris XI.

My question is: Are there, somewhere, copies of birth
certificates for Paris
VI, that might provide me with - among other things - the names
of
Charles/Karl's parents? Or lists of residents of Paris XI?

Thank you.

Peter Lebensold
Toronto, Canada

There are birth certificates, available on microfilm, at the Archives de la
Seine, at 75 - SEINE / PARIS 18, Bd Sérurier, 75019 Paris, tel.
011-331-.53.72.41.23, at the northeast corner of Paris. You will need to
consult them yourself, or send a researcher. They are not available over the
internet. You will have to scan the films over the date range you estimate
unless you have an exact birth date. You may have to get an ID card, which
would require a passport type picture, so go prepared with one. There are
also wedding and death certificates. Normally a fair amount of information
is included, and sometimes even the witness list is of interest.

It may be that the records are too late to be there (see the website), in
which case they will be at the Mairie (little city hall) for the
appropriate arrondissement. In that case, thay may do a search based on a
mailed request.

Yours,

Bill Alschuler
50 Delano Ave.
San Francisco, Ca. 94112 tel 415-725-3800








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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>FRENCHSIG
Digest for Thursday, October 27, 2005.<br><br>1. Paris Birth
Records<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Subject:
Paris Birth Records<br>From: &quot;Peter Lebensold&quot;
&lt;peter@lebensold.com&gt;<br>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:05:28
-0400<br>X-Message-Number: 1<br><br>Charles LEBENSOLD (as Karl) appears in
the Auschwitz arrival lists for 22<br>June 1942 as Prisoner #40947. He is
listed as having been born in Paris<br>6e, resided Paris XI.<br><br>My
question is: Are there, somewhere, copies of birth certificates for
Paris<br>VI, that might provide me with - among other things - the names
of<br>Charles/Karl's parents? Or lists of residents of Paris
XI?<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>Peter Lebensold<br>Toronto,
Canada<br><br><br><br><br><br>---<br><br>END OF
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French SIG #France Re: frenchsig digest: October 27, 2005 #france

laurphil@...
 

The French Civil Birth Records (as well as the Marriage Civil Records) of
less than 100 years are not freely available, excepted for the person
concerned by the record, his/her direct ascendants or descendants.
The other persons can only obtain an extract of the record without mention
of the names of the parents.

If the Birth Civil Record you are searching for dates of more than 100
years, there is no problem. The only problem is to find the precise date of
the birth.

There is no "lists of residents" for each "arrondissement" of Paris, but
there are populations censuses for 1926, 1931, 1936 and 1946. A research in
these records can be done if you know the address.

For more precision, you can contact me privately.

Sincerely,
Laurence Abensur-Hazan (Mrs)



Subject: Paris Birth Records
From: "Peter Lebensold" <peter@lebensold.com>
Charles LEBENSOLD (as Karl) appears in the Auschwitz arrival lists for 22
June 1942 as Prisoner #40947. He is listed as having been born in Paris
6e, resided Paris XI.

My question is: Are there, somewhere, copies of birth certificates for
Paris
VI, that might provide me with - among other things - the names of
Charles/Karl's parents? Or lists of residents of Paris XI?

Peter Lebensold
Toronto, Canada


JGSGB (Boston) next meeting #galicia

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston (JGSGB)
website: http://jgsgb.org


Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston

presents

Researching My Family in Europe: Successes and Failures

Thomas F. Weiss

Sunday, November 6, 2005
1:30-4:30 PM
Gann Academy, 333 Forest Street, Waltham

This talk will describe the saga of the fascinating family
history research project Tom Weiss has undertaken, with its
many twists and turns. Born in Prague, he escaped with his
parents five months after the German occupation began. Weiss
returned for the first time 59 years later and found many
landmarks important to his family-in Prague and Vienna and,
on later trips, in Buchach and Rozhnyatov. His talk will
describe the results of his research and the methods and
resources used.

Tom Weiss, a retired MIT professor, serves as JGSGB's
program chair. At the national level, he is webmaster for
the JewishGen Rozhnyatov ShtetLinks page, coordinator for
translation of the Yizkor Book for Rozhnyatov, and an active
member of the JewishGen Suchostav Region Research Group. He
is currently writing a book about his family's history.

Directions to Gann Academy: Take Route 128/95 to Exit 28
east. Follow Trapelo Road 2.3 mi. east (toward Belmont) and
turn right onto Forest Street. The entrance to Gann Academy
is 0.4 mi. further down the road on the left. >from the east,
take Trapelo Road to Forest St., which is the 3rd street on
left past the National Archives. For maps and detailed
directions, visit our web page at gann.jgsgb.org (note: our
meeting space is not in the building shown in the photo but
in a building to its right).

Admission is free for members, $5 for non-members.
Refreshments will be served.

Upcoming programs:

Dec. 11 "Footsteps of the Jewish Fusgeyers"
by Jill Culiner

Jan. 8 "Getting More >from JewishGen"
by Michael Marx


--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia JGSGB (Boston) next meeting #galicia

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston (JGSGB)
website: http://jgsgb.org


Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston

presents

Researching My Family in Europe: Successes and Failures

Thomas F. Weiss

Sunday, November 6, 2005
1:30-4:30 PM
Gann Academy, 333 Forest Street, Waltham

This talk will describe the saga of the fascinating family
history research project Tom Weiss has undertaken, with its
many twists and turns. Born in Prague, he escaped with his
parents five months after the German occupation began. Weiss
returned for the first time 59 years later and found many
landmarks important to his family-in Prague and Vienna and,
on later trips, in Buchach and Rozhnyatov. His talk will
describe the results of his research and the methods and
resources used.

Tom Weiss, a retired MIT professor, serves as JGSGB's
program chair. At the national level, he is webmaster for
the JewishGen Rozhnyatov ShtetLinks page, coordinator for
translation of the Yizkor Book for Rozhnyatov, and an active
member of the JewishGen Suchostav Region Research Group. He
is currently writing a book about his family's history.

Directions to Gann Academy: Take Route 128/95 to Exit 28
east. Follow Trapelo Road 2.3 mi. east (toward Belmont) and
turn right onto Forest Street. The entrance to Gann Academy
is 0.4 mi. further down the road on the left. >from the east,
take Trapelo Road to Forest St., which is the 3rd street on
left past the National Archives. For maps and detailed
directions, visit our web page at gann.jgsgb.org (note: our
meeting space is not in the building shown in the photo but
in a building to its right).

Admission is free for members, $5 for non-members.
Refreshments will be served.

Upcoming programs:

Dec. 11 "Footsteps of the Jewish Fusgeyers"
by Jill Culiner

Jan. 8 "Getting More >from JewishGen"
by Michael Marx


--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)


Re: Movie on Ukraine Visit #general

Elise
 

-----Original Message-----
Could anyone please inform me of the recent movie about someone who is
visiting his ancestral home in Ukraine. It is not a documentary.

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
You're probabaly referring to "Everything is Illuminated." It's based on a
book, of the same name, written by Jonathan Safran Foer. I read the book
earlier this year, but have not seen the movie yet.

Elise Friedman
Baltimore, Maryland

KMIOTEK/FRIEDMAN/LEWIS, SCHENDEROWITZ, EMBER (Makow Maz./Przasnysz, Poland);
EISNER, TAUB, WAHRHAFTIG, TUNIS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol, Ukraine);
MILLER/MEHLER, TAUB (Byblo/Staryy Sambor/Nizankowice/Dobromil, Ukraine);
PALEVSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN, DAITCH, GRUSHEWSKY (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIFSHITZ (Brest-Litovsk, Belarus);
CHESIN, EHUDIN (Mstislavl, Belarus); CHERNOCK, EPSTEIN (Novozybkov, Russia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Movie on Ukraine Visit #general

Elise
 

-----Original Message-----
Could anyone please inform me of the recent movie about someone who is
visiting his ancestral home in Ukraine. It is not a documentary.

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
You're probabaly referring to "Everything is Illuminated." It's based on a
book, of the same name, written by Jonathan Safran Foer. I read the book
earlier this year, but have not seen the movie yet.

Elise Friedman
Baltimore, Maryland

KMIOTEK/FRIEDMAN/LEWIS, SCHENDEROWITZ, EMBER (Makow Maz./Przasnysz, Poland);
EISNER, TAUB, WAHRHAFTIG, TUNIS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol, Ukraine);
MILLER/MEHLER, TAUB (Byblo/Staryy Sambor/Nizankowice/Dobromil, Ukraine);
PALEVSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN, DAITCH, GRUSHEWSKY (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIFSHITZ (Brest-Litovsk, Belarus);
CHESIN, EHUDIN (Mstislavl, Belarus); CHERNOCK, EPSTEIN (Novozybkov, Russia)


Movie on Ukraine Visit #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

Could anyone please inform me of the recent movie about someone who is
visiting his ancestral home in Ukraine. It is not a documentary.

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
MINOWITZKI, TOBIASZ - Belarus
HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM - Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Movie on Ukraine Visit #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

Could anyone please inform me of the recent movie about someone who is
visiting his ancestral home in Ukraine. It is not a documentary.

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
MINOWITZKI, TOBIASZ - Belarus
HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM - Galicia


Re: Privacy on the internet #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

With the mapping programs available today, anyone with your address can type
it in and get a map that points to your location. (Google merely automated
that process for the convenience of your friends.) Anyone who has your
phone number can enter it in a reverse directory (several are on-line) hand
have a good chance of finding your address.

And *anyone* who puts their name on a web site or in an email sent to a
mailing list will find that a search engine will list them. Messages on
lists are archived and available, like web sites, for the programs that
harvest and index information for inclusion in the search engines. That is
how, and part of why, search engines are such useful things.

If you don't like this, you had best, move to a different address, get a new
phone number, and stay off the internet in all its forms.

Should you be concerned? If you lived in a small town even 50 years ago,
the others in the town would know more about you than has been revealed by
the above described sources. Would you have been concerned?

The major concern these days is identity theft. For that you want to
control your social security number and perhaps your date of birth and
signature. Your phone number is likely of little value in that regard.
These thieves work at long distance and are, in my opinion, unlikely to want
to visit your home.


--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Dorothy Harper" < dorothyharper17@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:BAY103-F388EC6600532270C966EA6A6690@phx.gbl...

I have been reading through my Jewishgen digests and noticed some people
concerned about privacy with our families on the internet.

I have Family Tree Maker, with a Home Page and I am just beginning to putmy
"book" on my home page.

I went to google. com and typed in: " Kaplan Dorothy"

The second article was me: (apparently there are other famous Dorothy
Kaplans, not me)

"Kaplan Family Genealogy ForumEzra Kaplan & Fanny Cohen, Russia to Conn. to
Canada - Dorothy Kaplan/Hochberg/Harper 11/02/02. Re: Ezra Kaplan & Fanny
Cohen, Russia to Conn. to Canada ...
genforum.genealogy.com/kaplan/ - 26k - Cached - Similar pages "

I then clicked and got several other Kaplan researchers.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kaplan+Dorothy&btnG=Google+Search

I don't know why, but this disturbs me. Obviously my family hasn't been
harrased since I started my genealogy, I am wondering what others think of
this. I have a feeling that if I typed in all my family names I would come
up with my Family Tree.

I remember that years ago I notified Google to delete my home phone number,
when clicked on it gave not only my address but a map on how to get to my
house.

We are all on the internet. This is a fact of life. Should we be
concerned?

Dorothy Kaplan Hochberg (Harper)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Privacy on the internet #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

With the mapping programs available today, anyone with your address can type
it in and get a map that points to your location. (Google merely automated
that process for the convenience of your friends.) Anyone who has your
phone number can enter it in a reverse directory (several are on-line) hand
have a good chance of finding your address.

And *anyone* who puts their name on a web site or in an email sent to a
mailing list will find that a search engine will list them. Messages on
lists are archived and available, like web sites, for the programs that
harvest and index information for inclusion in the search engines. That is
how, and part of why, search engines are such useful things.

If you don't like this, you had best, move to a different address, get a new
phone number, and stay off the internet in all its forms.

Should you be concerned? If you lived in a small town even 50 years ago,
the others in the town would know more about you than has been revealed by
the above described sources. Would you have been concerned?

The major concern these days is identity theft. For that you want to
control your social security number and perhaps your date of birth and
signature. Your phone number is likely of little value in that regard.
These thieves work at long distance and are, in my opinion, unlikely to want
to visit your home.


--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Dorothy Harper" < dorothyharper17@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:BAY103-F388EC6600532270C966EA6A6690@phx.gbl...

I have been reading through my Jewishgen digests and noticed some people
concerned about privacy with our families on the internet.

I have Family Tree Maker, with a Home Page and I am just beginning to putmy
"book" on my home page.

I went to google. com and typed in: " Kaplan Dorothy"

The second article was me: (apparently there are other famous Dorothy
Kaplans, not me)

"Kaplan Family Genealogy ForumEzra Kaplan & Fanny Cohen, Russia to Conn. to
Canada - Dorothy Kaplan/Hochberg/Harper 11/02/02. Re: Ezra Kaplan & Fanny
Cohen, Russia to Conn. to Canada ...
genforum.genealogy.com/kaplan/ - 26k - Cached - Similar pages "

I then clicked and got several other Kaplan researchers.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kaplan+Dorothy&btnG=Google+Search

I don't know why, but this disturbs me. Obviously my family hasn't been
harrased since I started my genealogy, I am wondering what others think of
this. I have a feeling that if I typed in all my family names I would come
up with my Family Tree.

I remember that years ago I notified Google to delete my home phone number,
when clicked on it gave not only my address but a map on how to get to my
house.

We are all on the internet. This is a fact of life. Should we be
concerned?

Dorothy Kaplan Hochberg (Harper)
MODERATOR NOTE: Current messages to the JGDG are not archived by
http://groups.google.com/