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Updates for Orla and Nasielsk Poland #general

Eli Rabinowitz
 

Hi all

I have recently returned >from a trip to Poland and have updated the Orla and
Nasielsk webpages with some photos of my visit.

The updated pages can be found at:
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/orla/Orla_2012.html and

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/nasielsk/Nasielsk_2012.html

Thanks

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Updates for Orla and Nasielsk Poland #general

Eli Rabinowitz
 

Hi all

I have recently returned >from a trip to Poland and have updated the Orla and
Nasielsk webpages with some photos of my visit.

The updated pages can be found at:
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/orla/Orla_2012.html and

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/nasielsk/Nasielsk_2012.html

Thanks

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


Seeking Information on the Lichtcyjer Family of Orla, Poland #general

Eli Rabinowitz
 

Hi all

I am looking for anyone with connections to or who knows the LICHTCYJER family from
Orla, Poland to contact me.

I am trying to update the records and to find out more specifically about the fate
of Gittle and Sima Rachel LICHTCYJER. They were both married. One of them was on a
train which was bombed.

Please visit the Orla Kehilalink page at:

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/orla/Lichtcyjer.html for the family tree.

For more information, please contact Eli Rabinowitz privately at: eli@elirab.com

Thanks

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Information on the Lichtcyjer Family of Orla, Poland #general

Eli Rabinowitz
 

Hi all

I am looking for anyone with connections to or who knows the LICHTCYJER family from
Orla, Poland to contact me.

I am trying to update the records and to find out more specifically about the fate
of Gittle and Sima Rachel LICHTCYJER. They were both married. One of them was on a
train which was bombed.

Please visit the Orla Kehilalink page at:

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/orla/Lichtcyjer.html for the family tree.

For more information, please contact Eli Rabinowitz privately at: eli@elirab.com

Thanks

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


Liesberg #galicia

Susan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I may have figured out what Liesberg referred to, though a town of this
spelling did not appear in the 1877 directory of place names organized
by Jewish districts published by the Austro-Hungarian government.
Skole was a subdistrict in the kehilla of Stryji. I found the town of
Kliniec under Skole. Another town listed under Skole was Liborchowa.

As we learned >from Cohen's book, The Shtetl Finder, Jews sometimes
gave towns names that never appeared on any official map. Like
Rzeszow was called "Raisha," Bukowsko never included the final "o,"
and Przemysl was pronounced "Shemish." In the same way, perhaps
Liborchowa was called "Liesberg."

This is the only possible place in the 1877 listing for Skole.

Suzan Wynne


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Liesberg #galicia

Susan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I may have figured out what Liesberg referred to, though a town of this
spelling did not appear in the 1877 directory of place names organized
by Jewish districts published by the Austro-Hungarian government.
Skole was a subdistrict in the kehilla of Stryji. I found the town of
Kliniec under Skole. Another town listed under Skole was Liborchowa.

As we learned >from Cohen's book, The Shtetl Finder, Jews sometimes
gave towns names that never appeared on any official map. Like
Rzeszow was called "Raisha," Bukowsko never included the final "o,"
and Przemysl was pronounced "Shemish." In the same way, perhaps
Liborchowa was called "Liesberg."

This is the only possible place in the 1877 listing for Skole.

Suzan Wynne


Re: Abraham BLUM (1808-1858) - find the death cert. #france

Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 

Pierre,
it is probably in the repository of Aix en Provence, where are all the vital
records for the colonies older than 100 years .

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/

Anne Lifshitz-Krams

CGJ - Paris
www.genealoj.org
www.paris2012.eu
contact@paris2012.eu


Re: Abraham BLUM (1808-1858) - find the death cert. #france

eve.line.blum@...
 

You can find that birth certificate online on the website
http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/resultats.php?territ=
oire=3DGUYANE&commune=3DILES-DU-SALUT&typeacte=3DAC_DE&theme=3D&annee=3D185=
8&debut=3D&fin=3D&vue=3Dnom&x=3D84&y=3D13
It's the image Nr 26, on the left.

Eve Line Blum
Besancon France


French SIG #France Re: Abraham BLUM (1808-1858) - find the death cert. #france

Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 

Pierre,
it is probably in the repository of Aix en Provence, where are all the vital
records for the colonies older than 100 years .

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/

Anne Lifshitz-Krams

CGJ - Paris
www.genealoj.org
www.paris2012.eu
contact@paris2012.eu


French SIG #France Re: Abraham BLUM (1808-1858) - find the death cert. #france

eve.line.blum@...
 

You can find that birth certificate online on the website
http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/resultats.php?territ=
oire=3DGUYANE&commune=3DILES-DU-SALUT&typeacte=3DAC_DE&theme=3D&annee=3D185=
8&debut=3D&fin=3D&vue=3Dnom&x=3D84&y=3D13
It's the image Nr 26, on the left.

Eve Line Blum
Besancon France


Re: NY Records #general

Penny k
 

I did this 2 years ago. If the records are more than 50 years old, they are
considered public records and you do not need any death or birth certificates. Find
out the method of payment required before you go. After a short wait you'll get the
printed certificate. Certified copies cost more than copies. When I went through
this process the clerks were helpful and even one volunteered historical data.

Good luck.
Penny Kornstein

From: Jan Fine <janrandyfine@gmail.com>
I am going to be in NYC June during the week of the 18th and wish to obtain a copy
of my great grandparents marriage certificate.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NY Records #general

Penny k
 

I did this 2 years ago. If the records are more than 50 years old, they are
considered public records and you do not need any death or birth certificates. Find
out the method of payment required before you go. After a short wait you'll get the
printed certificate. Certified copies cost more than copies. When I went through
this process the clerks were helpful and even one volunteered historical data.

Good luck.
Penny Kornstein

From: Jan Fine <janrandyfine@gmail.com>
I am going to be in NYC June during the week of the 18th and wish to obtain a copy
of my great grandparents marriage certificate.


Please help me identify Bernard & Tessa HOFFMAN #general

msalzbank
 

I turn to my Gen Friends for ideas on identifying the exact relationship of
Bernard & Tessa HOFFMAN to my family.

As I sort through genealogical documents of the 1940s it is quite clear that this
couple were related to my family. I am guessing more so through Tessa than Bernard
(but that is just an educated guess).

This what I know:
They lived in New Jersey and the address for them in the mid 1940s-through at least
1951 was ** W. State Street, Trenton, NJ - no doubt about it,,

In a note sent to my grandparents, Joseph & Rose (JORRISCH) FREIMAN she refers to
attending the Bar Mitzvah of Arnold Horowitz and disaapointed thet she did not get
to see them there as well as another cousin, Henrietta DENKER.

The connections here are as cousins...Henrietta, Rose and Arnold Horowitz's father,
Murray were all first cousins...through the common JORRISCH name. Rose's father
was Max JORRISCH Henrietta's father was Alter JORRISCH and Murray's mother was
Tessie JORRISCH HOROWITZ..

Max, Alter and Tessie were siblings...They may have had a brother named Abraham...
but I have no confirmation of that.. I vaguely remember seeing another note talking
that the Hoffmans had children in Ohio....but not sure My guess is that Tessa
Hoffman was also a cousin... but have nothing to go on...Finding her in a census
would be a good start - even a headstone...anything....
Thanks for your advice on how to proceed

Michael SALZBANK
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Please help me identify Bernard & Tessa HOFFMAN #general

msalzbank
 

I turn to my Gen Friends for ideas on identifying the exact relationship of
Bernard & Tessa HOFFMAN to my family.

As I sort through genealogical documents of the 1940s it is quite clear that this
couple were related to my family. I am guessing more so through Tessa than Bernard
(but that is just an educated guess).

This what I know:
They lived in New Jersey and the address for them in the mid 1940s-through at least
1951 was ** W. State Street, Trenton, NJ - no doubt about it,,

In a note sent to my grandparents, Joseph & Rose (JORRISCH) FREIMAN she refers to
attending the Bar Mitzvah of Arnold Horowitz and disaapointed thet she did not get
to see them there as well as another cousin, Henrietta DENKER.

The connections here are as cousins...Henrietta, Rose and Arnold Horowitz's father,
Murray were all first cousins...through the common JORRISCH name. Rose's father
was Max JORRISCH Henrietta's father was Alter JORRISCH and Murray's mother was
Tessie JORRISCH HOROWITZ..

Max, Alter and Tessie were siblings...They may have had a brother named Abraham...
but I have no confirmation of that.. I vaguely remember seeing another note talking
that the Hoffmans had children in Ohio....but not sure My guess is that Tessa
Hoffman was also a cousin... but have nothing to go on...Finding her in a census
would be a good start - even a headstone...anything....
Thanks for your advice on how to proceed

Michael SALZBANK
New York


Re: The male name Poona #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Jeffrey Kingsley wrote
Has anyone ever heard of the name Poona? My mother's first cousin has
been told to me that was his name.
The Poona, India, [75 mi. S.E. of Bombay], Jewish community was established in the
middle of the 19th century. Family names consisting of the name of a city of
origin are common.

Read the Jewish Virtual Library:

<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0016_0_15972.html>

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The male name Poona #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Jeffrey Kingsley wrote
Has anyone ever heard of the name Poona? My mother's first cousin has
been told to me that was his name.
The Poona, India, [75 mi. S.E. of Bombay], Jewish community was established in the
middle of the 19th century. Family names consisting of the name of a city of
origin are common.

Read the Jewish Virtual Library:

<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0016_0_15972.html>

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


NY Records #general

Jan Fine
 

I am going to be in NYC June during the week of the 18th and wish to obtain a copy
of my great grandparents marriage certificate. I have the record numbers >from a
search on the both the bride and groom indexes thru stevemorse.org. Do I need to
have a copy of either of their death certificates in order to obtain a copy of
their marriage certificate? I have the death index record number for my great
grandmother (Sonie Persky) but not my great grandfather (Israel Siegel).

The complication is that my great grandfather was married three times - the first
two marriages rendered him a widower and I know that the second wife was the sister
of the first wife. I have the file number for the second wife's death certificate.
These certificates (marriage and death) should provide me with much needed
information on their parents names and perhaps birth places. I have not been able
to locate the death record for Israel's first wife (Mamie Sigel, variation of
spelling) or the marriage certificate for my last great grandmother (Anna Siegel)
who was my maternal grandmother's (Temmy Siegel) mother.

Can anyone advise me as to what to expect >from both the County Clerk's office and
or the Marriage license bureau in NYC? Time, costs, etc.?
Thank you,

Jan

Jan R. Fine
JGS Greater Washington - Editor, Mishpacha

researching:
Fine (Minsk) and New York City, possible connections in Detroit and Ontario
Forman (Kozan Haroduk, Mountaindale NY, and Brooklyn, NY)
Siegel (unsure of town near Minsk or Vilna) - Brooklyn (carpentry)
Paver (Neshvis) - New York, Windsor Ontario, includes variations -
Pauer (or similar spelling), Parver (Atlanta)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY Records #general

Jan Fine
 

I am going to be in NYC June during the week of the 18th and wish to obtain a copy
of my great grandparents marriage certificate. I have the record numbers >from a
search on the both the bride and groom indexes thru stevemorse.org. Do I need to
have a copy of either of their death certificates in order to obtain a copy of
their marriage certificate? I have the death index record number for my great
grandmother (Sonie Persky) but not my great grandfather (Israel Siegel).

The complication is that my great grandfather was married three times - the first
two marriages rendered him a widower and I know that the second wife was the sister
of the first wife. I have the file number for the second wife's death certificate.
These certificates (marriage and death) should provide me with much needed
information on their parents names and perhaps birth places. I have not been able
to locate the death record for Israel's first wife (Mamie Sigel, variation of
spelling) or the marriage certificate for my last great grandmother (Anna Siegel)
who was my maternal grandmother's (Temmy Siegel) mother.

Can anyone advise me as to what to expect >from both the County Clerk's office and
or the Marriage license bureau in NYC? Time, costs, etc.?
Thank you,

Jan

Jan R. Fine
JGS Greater Washington - Editor, Mishpacha

researching:
Fine (Minsk) and New York City, possible connections in Detroit and Ontario
Forman (Kozan Haroduk, Mountaindale NY, and Brooklyn, NY)
Siegel (unsure of town near Minsk or Vilna) - Brooklyn (carpentry)
Paver (Neshvis) - New York, Windsor Ontario, includes variations -
Pauer (or similar spelling), Parver (Atlanta)


The name Ergiel #general

Howard Coupland <how.jacque@...>
 

I just found out recently that my gg-grandfather was called Ergiel . I looked at
the documentation in Polish and Yiddish and his name is definitely spelt Hay,Ayin,
Raysh,Gimel,Lamed. My great uncle (his grandson) was called Israel-Hirsch and I
thought perhaps he was named after him. I would be interested to know if anyone
has ever heard of this name?

Thanks in advance

Howard Coupland
Leeds, England

RESEARCHING:-
CAPLAN (Vilnius, Lithuania),DREIER (Durban & Johannesburg, South Africa),
FINKIELSZTEJN (Marijampole, Lithuania) ,GRYNWALD (Marijampole & Liudvinavas,
Lithuania),KLEPPER / CLAPER (Iasi, Romania),LEIBOVICI (Iasi, Romania),PLOTKIN
(Stary Bykhov, Mogilev gubernia),PRENSKY (Aakiai, Lithuania),RENTZLER (Roman,
Romania and Manchester, England),SMOLENSKI (Roman,Romania)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The name Ergiel #general

Howard Coupland <how.jacque@...>
 

I just found out recently that my gg-grandfather was called Ergiel . I looked at
the documentation in Polish and Yiddish and his name is definitely spelt Hay,Ayin,
Raysh,Gimel,Lamed. My great uncle (his grandson) was called Israel-Hirsch and I
thought perhaps he was named after him. I would be interested to know if anyone
has ever heard of this name?

Thanks in advance

Howard Coupland
Leeds, England

RESEARCHING:-
CAPLAN (Vilnius, Lithuania),DREIER (Durban & Johannesburg, South Africa),
FINKIELSZTEJN (Marijampole, Lithuania) ,GRYNWALD (Marijampole & Liudvinavas,
Lithuania),KLEPPER / CLAPER (Iasi, Romania),LEIBOVICI (Iasi, Romania),PLOTKIN
(Stary Bykhov, Mogilev gubernia),PRENSKY (Aakiai, Lithuania),RENTZLER (Roman,
Romania and Manchester, England),SMOLENSKI (Roman,Romania)

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