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Transcribed passenger lists on line (repeat) #germany

Elizabeth Levy <ealevygen@...>
 

I came across a great sight for those whose ancestors came to the US by
ship:
http://www.immigrantships.net/

A group of volunteers has transcribed passenger lists >from over 5,000
passenger ships coming to the New World. It lists the passengers' names,
nearest relatives and even their belongings. Check it out!

And a little humor as you search... there's a page of genealogy humor at:
http://www.wgbc.org/genhumor.htm
I loved "My ancestors must be in a witness protection program!"

Elizabeth Levy Mevassaret Zion, Israel

Ms. Levy is the author of "A Dream Come True", a memoir of her research
visit to Germany, which will be included in the next issue of "Stammbaum -
The Journal of German Jewish Genealogy". MOD1


German SIG #Germany Transcribed passenger lists on line (repeat) #germany

Elizabeth Levy <ealevygen@...>
 

I came across a great sight for those whose ancestors came to the US by
ship:
http://www.immigrantships.net/

A group of volunteers has transcribed passenger lists >from over 5,000
passenger ships coming to the New World. It lists the passengers' names,
nearest relatives and even their belongings. Check it out!

And a little humor as you search... there's a page of genealogy humor at:
http://www.wgbc.org/genhumor.htm
I loved "My ancestors must be in a witness protection program!"

Elizabeth Levy Mevassaret Zion, Israel

Ms. Levy is the author of "A Dream Come True", a memoir of her research
visit to Germany, which will be included in the next issue of "Stammbaum -
The Journal of German Jewish Genealogy". MOD1


The ROSENBERGER branch. #germany

adamandlopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Hello again! I am as ever trying to trace branches of
my SELIGMANN family >from Ichenhausen.

Claeri SELIGMANN(1847-1928)married twice;
i. with Nathan ROSENBERGER
ii. with Marum WEIL

Her 3 children, all ROSENBERGER, were:

a. Moritz (lived in Montreal ?) - he married Sarah
KRUPP -
Children of Moritz and Sarah were:
1 Nathan who married Fanni - they had children Peter
David ROSENBERGER and Ethel.
2 Alfred ROSENBERGER
3 Rudolf ROSENBERGER
4 Eric ROSENBERGER
5 Helen ROSENBERGER

b. Jeanette -married Willy APPEL (lived Upington,
South Africa)

c. Isak...."verschollen"

If anyone has any more information about these people
this would be of great interest to me.

Thanks.

Adam Yamey, London, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


German SIG #Germany The ROSENBERGER branch. #germany

adamandlopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Hello again! I am as ever trying to trace branches of
my SELIGMANN family >from Ichenhausen.

Claeri SELIGMANN(1847-1928)married twice;
i. with Nathan ROSENBERGER
ii. with Marum WEIL

Her 3 children, all ROSENBERGER, were:

a. Moritz (lived in Montreal ?) - he married Sarah
KRUPP -
Children of Moritz and Sarah were:
1 Nathan who married Fanni - they had children Peter
David ROSENBERGER and Ethel.
2 Alfred ROSENBERGER
3 Rudolf ROSENBERGER
4 Eric ROSENBERGER
5 Helen ROSENBERGER

b. Jeanette -married Willy APPEL (lived Upington,
South Africa)

c. Isak...."verschollen"

If anyone has any more information about these people
this would be of great interest to me.

Thanks.

Adam Yamey, London, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Re: Kotsk #rabbinic

philapple@...
 

Yesterday, I wrote:

I am thinking of tracing the descendants of the Kotsker Rebbe, Rabbi
Menachem Mendel MORGENSTERN (1787-1859). [...]

Before consulting Polish civil records, I'm looking at various
published genealogical sources. [...]

I am aware of Sefer Kotsk by Yehuda Leib Levin published in Israel
some years ago, but have not yet seen it. I would like to ask those
who have used this book what they think of it. Did Levin consult
original sources? How accurate and reliable is the book?
In my recently posted message (see above) I made reference to a
book, Sefer Kotsk by Yehuda Leib Levin. I now realize I made a
mistake. The name of the book is not Sefer Kotsk, but Beit Kotsk
(or Beis Kotsk, if you like). The author still is Yehuda Leib
Levin.

Phillip Applebaum
Oak Park, Michigan
USA


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Kotsk #rabbinic

philapple@...
 

Yesterday, I wrote:

I am thinking of tracing the descendants of the Kotsker Rebbe, Rabbi
Menachem Mendel MORGENSTERN (1787-1859). [...]

Before consulting Polish civil records, I'm looking at various
published genealogical sources. [...]

I am aware of Sefer Kotsk by Yehuda Leib Levin published in Israel
some years ago, but have not yet seen it. I would like to ask those
who have used this book what they think of it. Did Levin consult
original sources? How accurate and reliable is the book?
In my recently posted message (see above) I made reference to a
book, Sefer Kotsk by Yehuda Leib Levin. I now realize I made a
mistake. The name of the book is not Sefer Kotsk, but Beit Kotsk
(or Beis Kotsk, if you like). The author still is Yehuda Leib
Levin.

Phillip Applebaum
Oak Park, Michigan
USA


STRELLETSKIE and BOAM #scandinavia

June Greenough <june.greenough@...>
 

listers,

Looking to find a Samuel STRELLETSKIE he was born in 1833 in
Holland.Amsterdam. I am looking for parents of this person too.

Samuel came to England and married a girl named Hannah BOAM, her
parents were Jacob Boam born 1765 in Groningen, Amsterdam, and
her mother was born Amelia (Minnie) SAMUELS born 1796 in Holland.
They too came over to England and settled here.

Is there anyone who maybe researching the names of STRELLETSKIE
and BOAM, would appreciate any information you may have on these.
I have information on both when in London and of their children,
but no information before they entered Englanmd.

Regards
June Greenough


MODERATOR NOTE:
---------------
Although the persons mentioned lived in Holland and England and
that the above message could seem to have been posted on the wrong
list, it is sent out because there were often close connections
between families in Holland, England and Scandinavia.
---------------


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia STRELLETSKIE and BOAM #scandinavia

June Greenough <june.greenough@...>
 

listers,

Looking to find a Samuel STRELLETSKIE he was born in 1833 in
Holland.Amsterdam. I am looking for parents of this person too.

Samuel came to England and married a girl named Hannah BOAM, her
parents were Jacob Boam born 1765 in Groningen, Amsterdam, and
her mother was born Amelia (Minnie) SAMUELS born 1796 in Holland.
They too came over to England and settled here.

Is there anyone who maybe researching the names of STRELLETSKIE
and BOAM, would appreciate any information you may have on these.
I have information on both when in London and of their children,
but no information before they entered Englanmd.

Regards
June Greenough


MODERATOR NOTE:
---------------
Although the persons mentioned lived in Holland and England and
that the above message could seem to have been posted on the wrong
list, it is sent out because there were often close connections
between families in Holland, England and Scandinavia.
---------------


Jakob SELIGMANN, Chicago #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

I have on my family tree a Jakob SELIGMANN, born 1846 in Ichenhausen, died
1900. It appears that he went to Rouxville in South Africa before going to
Chicago, USA.

He married Hendrina HENDRICKS and they had children named:
Ralph,Frederick,Arthur, Percy and Max. I do not
know whether there were any more descendants of Jakob and Hendrina.

The only other information that I have that may relate to this branch of
the family is a letter >from Arthur dated Nov.1905 in which he mentions
that his mother sent best wishes. The letter is on the headed note-paper
of the Potter Watch Co., 98 East Madison Street, Chicago, where he was
general manager.

If anyone can shed any more light on this branch of my mother's extended
and extensive family I would be very happy and grateful.

Adam Yamey, london, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


German SIG #Germany Jakob SELIGMANN, Chicago #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

I have on my family tree a Jakob SELIGMANN, born 1846 in Ichenhausen, died
1900. It appears that he went to Rouxville in South Africa before going to
Chicago, USA.

He married Hendrina HENDRICKS and they had children named:
Ralph,Frederick,Arthur, Percy and Max. I do not
know whether there were any more descendants of Jakob and Hendrina.

The only other information that I have that may relate to this branch of
the family is a letter >from Arthur dated Nov.1905 in which he mentions
that his mother sent best wishes. The letter is on the headed note-paper
of the Potter Watch Co., 98 East Madison Street, Chicago, where he was
general manager.

If anyone can shed any more light on this branch of my mother's extended
and extensive family I would be very happy and grateful.

Adam Yamey, london, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Re: RINDSKOPF - Fuerth #germany

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

I have a marriage on 07 Jan. 1831 in Fuerth of
Adelheid WEINSCHENK (1810-1831) with
Bernhard RINDSKOPF (1800-1836) son of
Juda son of Lippmann RINDSKOPF.

The other RINDSKOPF I have were in Frankfurt.

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France asso.genami@free.fr
Site GenAmi : http://asso.genami.free.fr


German SIG #Germany Re: RINDSKOPF - Fuerth #germany

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

I have a marriage on 07 Jan. 1831 in Fuerth of
Adelheid WEINSCHENK (1810-1831) with
Bernhard RINDSKOPF (1800-1836) son of
Juda son of Lippmann RINDSKOPF.

The other RINDSKOPF I have were in Frankfurt.

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France asso.genami@free.fr
Site GenAmi : http://asso.genami.free.fr


BELEGRODSKY, BELGRADSKY, BELGRADE, BELGROD #ukraine

Wanda Alter <litlwolf@...>
 

Seeking info on anyone with surnames BELEGRODSKY, BELGRADSKY, BELGRADE,
BELGROD. My husband's line came >from Kiev, Ukraine (as far back as I've
gotten). In the US his line changed the original Belegrodsky to Belgrade
and Belgrod. His line settled in New London, CT. I have found reference to
others by this name who came >from Kiev and settled in Chicago - again, most
took the name Belgrade here. Another line also changing the name to
Belgrade >from Belgradsky settled in Red Bank, NJ. That line is said to have
come >from Vowydwor, Russia (where ever that is).

Elihu Belegrodsky aka Louis Belgrade immigrated in mid to late 1899. Others
seemed to immigrate within the twenty years that followed.

Wanda Alter
Altamonte Springs, FL


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Consider Nowy Dwor as a possibility. There are three
listings in Where Once We Walked with that name, all in Poland, today.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine BELEGRODSKY, BELGRADSKY, BELGRADE, BELGROD #ukraine

Wanda Alter <litlwolf@...>
 

Seeking info on anyone with surnames BELEGRODSKY, BELGRADSKY, BELGRADE,
BELGROD. My husband's line came >from Kiev, Ukraine (as far back as I've
gotten). In the US his line changed the original Belegrodsky to Belgrade
and Belgrod. His line settled in New London, CT. I have found reference to
others by this name who came >from Kiev and settled in Chicago - again, most
took the name Belgrade here. Another line also changing the name to
Belgrade >from Belgradsky settled in Red Bank, NJ. That line is said to have
come >from Vowydwor, Russia (where ever that is).

Elihu Belegrodsky aka Louis Belgrade immigrated in mid to late 1899. Others
seemed to immigrate within the twenty years that followed.

Wanda Alter
Altamonte Springs, FL


MODERATOR'S NOTE: Consider Nowy Dwor as a possibility. There are three
listings in Where Once We Walked with that name, all in Poland, today.


France - Wanted poster for children? #general

Don and Debby Painter <painter@...>
 

Today I learned that there had been a wanted
poster issued for my Mother and her 3 sisters
(ages, 3, 7, 11, & 17) in Pont-a-Mousson, France after
the deportation of the French Jews had begun.
I know that there were such posters for those
in the resistance and others, but I was wondering
if any oneout there had ever heard of such a thing
about children or is this a rare case?

Want to add that their parents had been
deported months before as they were
considered stateless, the 4 sisters had gone
into hiding and then been denounced. They remained
in hiding the duration of the war.

Debby Gincig Painter
Searching Klinger (Lodz), Gincig/Ginzig (Germany)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen France - Wanted poster for children? #general

Don and Debby Painter <painter@...>
 

Today I learned that there had been a wanted
poster issued for my Mother and her 3 sisters
(ages, 3, 7, 11, & 17) in Pont-a-Mousson, France after
the deportation of the French Jews had begun.
I know that there were such posters for those
in the resistance and others, but I was wondering
if any oneout there had ever heard of such a thing
about children or is this a rare case?

Want to add that their parents had been
deported months before as they were
considered stateless, the 4 sisters had gone
into hiding and then been denounced. They remained
in hiding the duration of the war.

Debby Gincig Painter
Searching Klinger (Lodz), Gincig/Ginzig (Germany)


VM3233/4 gggg-gf's missing daughters?? #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Hi,

I may have found a rosetta stone (or two) to a
big chunk of missing family. The ZYLBERMAN >from
Chorzele and Przasnysz are all related and go
back to my gggggg-gf Aron Z who was born around 1700.

My gggg-gf Iciek Nosen ZYLBERMAN (Iciek ben Nosek)
died in 1827 in Przasnysz and left 5 children.
The 3 boys Aron, Nosek and Wigdor (my ggg-gf)
were easy to trace and the family tree is now a full
10 pages with family all over the world. The 2
girls were only listed as Sura Izraelowa and
Haia Moshowa, i.e. first names and their
husbands' first names.

Working with the incomparably essential JRI-Poland
index, I searched for early 19th century women
of the correct first name with the correct
father (Iciek/Icko), then went to the LDS films
and checked each record out individually.

I found the following two death records that
look like perfect matches, giving correct first names
(Sura and Haia respectively), husbands (Izrael and
Moshe respectively) and most important, the father
in both cases was Iciek Nosenowicz. Their ages also
fit the expected time periods (the two girls
were a bit older than their brothers,
putting the years of their marriages in the
period just before the patrynomic records started in
1808.....darn!)

These two records can be see directly at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3232
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3233

What I have not been able to do is identify all
of the survivors listed nor determine if their
spouses were still alive.

I would greatly appreciate translations to
identify all the individuals mentioned including
children and spouses, towns, occupations and
anything that would help me track down their
families in later periods.

For Sura Izraelowa, it seems she was survived by
(please check me) Basia in Janowa, Rywka in Makow,
Gitte in Przasnysz (but who are Iciek Dawid and Lei
mentioned later?). Was Sura survived by Izrael
or was he already dead? Is there any hint of a
surname lurking in this document?

For Haia Moshowa, it seems she was survived
(if I read this correctly) by Moshe Dawidowcz KOZY/KOZIC??
---was KOZIC or KOZY her surname?.....were
there any children?

If both of these pan out, I will have an opportunity
to increase the size of the ZYLBERMAN family tree
by up to 2/3 more to cover the female side of
Iciek Nosen's family.

Please reply privately to meyers01@comcast.net

Thanks in advance,

Marty Meyers

researching:
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN/ALLENSTEJN/BRZYSKIER >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
BORDOWITZ/(WICZ) >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk/Wyszkow
MEYEROWITZ/POROSHKIN >from Bolshaya Berestovitsa (Belarus)
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN/BAILIN >from Slavuta/Volhynia/Ukraine
LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN >from Vilna
ZELMANOVICH/ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz/Mlawa area?)


Abraham Richmond #ukraine

Rachel <rahel_ia@...>
 

Hello,
I'm looking for the family of ABRAHAM RICHMOND (RACHMAN at first)
was born in 1896 in Ukraine, moved to the US continent, at the early 20th
century.
was a soldier in the WW1.
due to Ancestry.com records he use to live in Antelope, LA,CA.
dose it mean to somebody?
Kindly Regards,
Rachel Asherovitz
rahel_ia@bezeqint.net


Odessa records #ukraine

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

Regarding Art Blustein's note - where can one access the Jewish records for
Odessa? What kind of records? My relatives left there in 1882 or perhaps
1881, and I have not been able to find any records in Ukraine, but did pick
them up >from Liverpool to the US on a passenger list. SS Ohio, landing in
Philadelphia. But nothing before that.
Dorothy Dellar Kohanski


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM3233/4 gggg-gf's missing daughters?? #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Hi,

I may have found a rosetta stone (or two) to a
big chunk of missing family. The ZYLBERMAN >from
Chorzele and Przasnysz are all related and go
back to my gggggg-gf Aron Z who was born around 1700.

My gggg-gf Iciek Nosen ZYLBERMAN (Iciek ben Nosek)
died in 1827 in Przasnysz and left 5 children.
The 3 boys Aron, Nosek and Wigdor (my ggg-gf)
were easy to trace and the family tree is now a full
10 pages with family all over the world. The 2
girls were only listed as Sura Izraelowa and
Haia Moshowa, i.e. first names and their
husbands' first names.

Working with the incomparably essential JRI-Poland
index, I searched for early 19th century women
of the correct first name with the correct
father (Iciek/Icko), then went to the LDS films
and checked each record out individually.

I found the following two death records that
look like perfect matches, giving correct first names
(Sura and Haia respectively), husbands (Izrael and
Moshe respectively) and most important, the father
in both cases was Iciek Nosenowicz. Their ages also
fit the expected time periods (the two girls
were a bit older than their brothers,
putting the years of their marriages in the
period just before the patrynomic records started in
1808.....darn!)

These two records can be see directly at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3232
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3233

What I have not been able to do is identify all
of the survivors listed nor determine if their
spouses were still alive.

I would greatly appreciate translations to
identify all the individuals mentioned including
children and spouses, towns, occupations and
anything that would help me track down their
families in later periods.

For Sura Izraelowa, it seems she was survived by
(please check me) Basia in Janowa, Rywka in Makow,
Gitte in Przasnysz (but who are Iciek Dawid and Lei
mentioned later?). Was Sura survived by Izrael
or was he already dead? Is there any hint of a
surname lurking in this document?

For Haia Moshowa, it seems she was survived
(if I read this correctly) by Moshe Dawidowcz KOZY/KOZIC??
---was KOZIC or KOZY her surname?.....were
there any children?

If both of these pan out, I will have an opportunity
to increase the size of the ZYLBERMAN family tree
by up to 2/3 more to cover the female side of
Iciek Nosen's family.

Please reply privately to meyers01@comcast.net

Thanks in advance,

Marty Meyers

researching:
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN/ALLENSTEJN/BRZYSKIER >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
BORDOWITZ/(WICZ) >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk/Wyszkow
MEYEROWITZ/POROSHKIN >from Bolshaya Berestovitsa (Belarus)
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN/BAILIN >from Slavuta/Volhynia/Ukraine
LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN >from Vilna
ZELMANOVICH/ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz/Mlawa area?)