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Shalom from Jerusalem #ukraine

ALMassion@...
 

The Ukraine Sig met today here at the International Jewish Genealogy Seminar with a good 70 people joining resources. Diane Goldman took minutes and we will share the most pertinent items later in the summer. Thank you for your patience.

Andrea Massion researching Massion&Smaltz in Ananiev UKR, Greenspoon and Tigay in Balta and Uman, Ourin(son) and Katznelson in Bobroisk. Asrican, Michaelson, Brevdy.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Shalom from Jerusalem #ukraine

ALMassion@...
 

The Ukraine Sig met today here at the International Jewish Genealogy Seminar with a good 70 people joining resources. Diane Goldman took minutes and we will share the most pertinent items later in the summer. Thank you for your patience.

Andrea Massion researching Massion&Smaltz in Ananiev UKR, Greenspoon and Tigay in Balta and Uman, Ourin(son) and Katznelson in Bobroisk. Asrican, Michaelson, Brevdy.


Fw: Kiliya and Vilkovo, research help ASAP #ukraine

Maxine Terner <publicmax@...>
 

I was referred to this SIG >from the Romania-SIG.

Hello- this is my first post. I will be traveling to Ukraine in a few weeks
to visit the towns of Kiliya and Vilkovo (Bessarabian towns on Ukraine side
of Danube delta) >from which my grandparents emigrated in 1913. My
grandfather's passport has a stamp >from Galati and Izmail. They spoke often
of Odesa & my grandmother attended a midwife gymnasia (school) there. I
would like to
make contact with a local genealogist who might be able to assist me in
doing some records research in Kiliya or perhaps Odesa. The family names
are KHAIMOVICH and
GAMSHIEVICH.

I have not found much information on Jewish settlements in this area, I am
confused about whether this area is Ukraine, Moldova, Bessarabia or Romania,
& would appreciate hearing >from anyone who can help me. I would also like
to know
if I am in the correct discussion group or should I be in the Ukrainian one?
Please advise.

Thank you for any assistance you may give,
Maxine Terner
California, USA
publicmax@comcast.net


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Fw: Kiliya and Vilkovo, research help ASAP #ukraine

Maxine Terner <publicmax@...>
 

I was referred to this SIG >from the Romania-SIG.

Hello- this is my first post. I will be traveling to Ukraine in a few weeks
to visit the towns of Kiliya and Vilkovo (Bessarabian towns on Ukraine side
of Danube delta) >from which my grandparents emigrated in 1913. My
grandfather's passport has a stamp >from Galati and Izmail. They spoke often
of Odesa & my grandmother attended a midwife gymnasia (school) there. I
would like to
make contact with a local genealogist who might be able to assist me in
doing some records research in Kiliya or perhaps Odesa. The family names
are KHAIMOVICH and
GAMSHIEVICH.

I have not found much information on Jewish settlements in this area, I am
confused about whether this area is Ukraine, Moldova, Bessarabia or Romania,
& would appreciate hearing >from anyone who can help me. I would also like
to know
if I am in the correct discussion group or should I be in the Ukrainian one?
Please advise.

Thank you for any assistance you may give,
Maxine Terner
California, USA
publicmax@comcast.net


Re: Seman as Polish Given Name #general

Julia Maria Koszewska <julia_koszewska@...>
 

Daniel,
the given name Seman sounds simmilar to the name: Simon (polish version: Szymon-
read like: shymon; when "y" is not exactly like "e")
Best regards- Julia

From: "Daniel Vangheluwe" <vangheluwe-smietan@wanadoo.fr>

Is it someone familiar with the given name Seman.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seman as Polish Given Name #general

Julia Maria Koszewska <julia_koszewska@...>
 

Daniel,
the given name Seman sounds simmilar to the name: Simon (polish version: Szymon-
read like: shymon; when "y" is not exactly like "e")
Best regards- Julia

From: "Daniel Vangheluwe" <vangheluwe-smietan@wanadoo.fr>

Is it someone familiar with the given name Seman.


Re: Dorothy PERRY marriage to Philip M DIAMOND 1930 #general

Adele Lester <alester@...>
 

"Kathryn Michael" <kathryn@michaels99.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
I discovered a wedding invitation. Mrs Amelia PERRY requests the honour of your
presence at the marriage of her daughter Dorothy to Mr Philip M DIAMOND Sunday
14th September 1930 at Pythian Temple 135W 70th St, City of New York
Do these names mean anything to anybody out there?
The Knights of Pythias are an American Jewish Fraternal group. I wasn't aware
of them having their own "Temple" but as far as I know the group is still in
existence and may have records on former members. I'm sure if you "google"
Knights of P. you'll get some information on how to reach them. If not, contact me
and I'll see what I can find.

Adele SCHLAZER Lester
Riverdale, New York (formerly London)
Researching: SCHLAZER/SZLJAZJER/SZLJAHCIC -
Pultusk/Obritte/Wyszkow/Makow/London/NY
BERNSTEIN/BORENSTEJN - Wyszkow/Pultusk/London/Chicago
(D)ZIEMBA & P(B)UZNIAK - Pultusk/Wyszkow area
GOLDMAN/VICTOR(OVITCH) - London & Eastern Europe
SCHILLER - London & Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dorothy PERRY marriage to Philip M DIAMOND 1930 #general

Adele Lester <alester@...>
 

"Kathryn Michael" <kathryn@michaels99.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
I discovered a wedding invitation. Mrs Amelia PERRY requests the honour of your
presence at the marriage of her daughter Dorothy to Mr Philip M DIAMOND Sunday
14th September 1930 at Pythian Temple 135W 70th St, City of New York
Do these names mean anything to anybody out there?
The Knights of Pythias are an American Jewish Fraternal group. I wasn't aware
of them having their own "Temple" but as far as I know the group is still in
existence and may have records on former members. I'm sure if you "google"
Knights of P. you'll get some information on how to reach them. If not, contact me
and I'll see what I can find.

Adele SCHLAZER Lester
Riverdale, New York (formerly London)
Researching: SCHLAZER/SZLJAZJER/SZLJAHCIC -
Pultusk/Obritte/Wyszkow/Makow/London/NY
BERNSTEIN/BORENSTEJN - Wyszkow/Pultusk/London/Chicago
(D)ZIEMBA & P(B)UZNIAK - Pultusk/Wyszkow area
GOLDMAN/VICTOR(OVITCH) - London & Eastern Europe
SCHILLER - London & Poland


conference on German migration #germany

Alice Josephs
 

Those based in the UK may be interested to know about a free conference
to be held at the University of Greenwich, South East London.

German-Anglo Cultural Transfers and Encounters 1660-1918
Colloquium 19/20 July 2004
University of Greenwich
School of Humanities
Queen Anne Building 075

This includes a talk by Thomas Weber on the impact of German Jewish
immigrants on British Jewry and Society on the afternoon of 19 July.

For more information, go to
http://www.gre.ac.uk/~ms21/Migration&Transfer/colloqu04/progr04.htm

The conference is free but the organizer asks you contact him if you
wish to attend: S.Manz@gre.ac.uk

Alice Josephs London UK


German SIG #Germany conference on German migration #germany

Alice Josephs
 

Those based in the UK may be interested to know about a free conference
to be held at the University of Greenwich, South East London.

German-Anglo Cultural Transfers and Encounters 1660-1918
Colloquium 19/20 July 2004
University of Greenwich
School of Humanities
Queen Anne Building 075

This includes a talk by Thomas Weber on the impact of German Jewish
immigrants on British Jewry and Society on the afternoon of 19 July.

For more information, go to
http://www.gre.ac.uk/~ms21/Migration&Transfer/colloqu04/progr04.htm

The conference is free but the organizer asks you contact him if you
wish to attend: S.Manz@gre.ac.uk

Alice Josephs London UK


Help: Russia/Poland Towns - Multi-Names, Geography/Distance #general

Beyesn@...
 

Dear Group -

I am struggling with documents that list two different towns for my
great-grandmother, two different towns for my great-grandfather, and the family
story that despite marrying in New York they did indeed meet/court prior to their
separate immigration. I am hoping that someone can tell if indeed some
combination of her listed towns and his listed towns are in close proximity to
each other. It may get confusing, but here we go:

On my great-grandmother Sarah (Somie) KLIGER's 1907 ship manifest, it lists the
town of her last permanent residence as Brest in Russia. But she states on her
1941 naturalization papers that she was born in 1887 in Stuberchva, Russia (a
shtetl that I have not been able to find cited anywhere) and that this was also
her last place of foreign residence. This same document lists her spouses (my
great-grandfather Samuel UGER) place of birth as Klewan, Poland.

On my great-grandfather Samuel UGER's 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card, it lists
the place he was born in 1887 as Klevon, Russia. But on his 1919 naturalization
papers, it lists both his place of birth and his last foreign residence as Volin,
Russia. This same document cops out on listing his wife Sarah's place of birth by
just listing xxx, Russia.

Taking into consideration geography, shifts in national borders over time, town
name changes due to political change, and also human error/forgetfulness/
delibrate misinformation, does any of this make logical sense? Are her two listed
towns close enough to each other to explain her use of both? Same question for
his two stated towns? Finally, any of her places close enough to any of his
places to give merit to the legend that they met prior to coming to America?
Whew!
Thanks for reading to the end ...

Barry Eisenberg
Rockville, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help: Russia/Poland Towns - Multi-Names, Geography/Distance #general

Beyesn@...
 

Dear Group -

I am struggling with documents that list two different towns for my
great-grandmother, two different towns for my great-grandfather, and the family
story that despite marrying in New York they did indeed meet/court prior to their
separate immigration. I am hoping that someone can tell if indeed some
combination of her listed towns and his listed towns are in close proximity to
each other. It may get confusing, but here we go:

On my great-grandmother Sarah (Somie) KLIGER's 1907 ship manifest, it lists the
town of her last permanent residence as Brest in Russia. But she states on her
1941 naturalization papers that she was born in 1887 in Stuberchva, Russia (a
shtetl that I have not been able to find cited anywhere) and that this was also
her last place of foreign residence. This same document lists her spouses (my
great-grandfather Samuel UGER) place of birth as Klewan, Poland.

On my great-grandfather Samuel UGER's 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card, it lists
the place he was born in 1887 as Klevon, Russia. But on his 1919 naturalization
papers, it lists both his place of birth and his last foreign residence as Volin,
Russia. This same document cops out on listing his wife Sarah's place of birth by
just listing xxx, Russia.

Taking into consideration geography, shifts in national borders over time, town
name changes due to political change, and also human error/forgetfulness/
delibrate misinformation, does any of this make logical sense? Are her two listed
towns close enough to each other to explain her use of both? Same question for
his two stated towns? Finally, any of her places close enough to any of his
places to give merit to the legend that they met prior to coming to America?
Whew!
Thanks for reading to the end ...

Barry Eisenberg
Rockville, MD


Seman as Polish Given Name #general

Daniel Vangheluwe <vangheluwe-smietan@...>
 

Dear genners

Is it someone familiar with the given name Seman ( one occured people born
in Wolanizna Poland circa 1865, given name used in 1904 in Ellis Island; the
second people was jewish and born in Warsaw 1895, given name used in 1914 in
Ellis Island)

Many thanks

Daniel Vangheluwe


Kate KUTZNITZKY in London #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,
My search for the KOENIGSBUCH brothers >from the Kindertransport continues. Just
discovered that they listed sometime in the 1940s that they had a second cousin
called Kate KUTZNITZKY who lived at XXX Hurlingham Road London SW6.
No such listing in today's Londonn telephone directory.The spelling might be
different of course(KUZNITSKY like in JGFF).
Do email me if you know Kate Kutznitzky or her family.
Thanks.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
***
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your own listings up to date.


Rivka SHUSTER #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

Seeking information on Rivka SHUSTER of Lod, Israel who filled out a page of
testimony for her father Chaim SHVARTZBERG of Rokiskis, Lithuania.

Steven Weiss
from the Jerusalem conference
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seman as Polish Given Name #general

Daniel Vangheluwe <vangheluwe-smietan@...>
 

Dear genners

Is it someone familiar with the given name Seman ( one occured people born
in Wolanizna Poland circa 1865, given name used in 1904 in Ellis Island; the
second people was jewish and born in Warsaw 1895, given name used in 1914 in
Ellis Island)

Many thanks

Daniel Vangheluwe


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kate KUTZNITZKY in London #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,
My search for the KOENIGSBUCH brothers >from the Kindertransport continues. Just
discovered that they listed sometime in the 1940s that they had a second cousin
called Kate KUTZNITZKY who lived at XXX Hurlingham Road London SW6.
No such listing in today's Londonn telephone directory.The spelling might be
different of course(KUZNITSKY like in JGFF).
Do email me if you know Kate Kutznitzky or her family.
Thanks.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
***
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JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more and
more frequently. If you have not already done so, please log onto
www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter and register
all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more
names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep
your own listings up to date.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rivka SHUSTER #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

Seeking information on Rivka SHUSTER of Lod, Israel who filled out a page of
testimony for her father Chaim SHVARTZBERG of Rokiskis, Lithuania.

Steven Weiss
from the Jerusalem conference
***
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JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more and
more frequently. If you have not already done so, please log onto
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all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more
names and places of origin, they can always be added, but
only **you** can keep your own listings up to date.


Searching KIOSZE -- Lithuania and East Prussia (Tilsit) #general

Marx, Jonathan Schreiner <John@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I am looking for the KIOSZE family. Rare name! They were originally >from
Lithuania, possibly the village of Kiutsi about 128 kil. >from Vilna. The name
might originally have been Kiotsinsky. But as they went into East Prussia, the
insky may have been dropped. My great-grandfather was Michael Kiosze. He died in
Dusseldorf or Essen of double pneumonia in 1911-12. Younger brother was David
Kiosze. Anybody with KIOSZE names in their families, please contact me. They lived
near Alt-Strehmenen near Tilsit by the Memel (or Niemen) river right on the
border.

Thanks

Jonathan Schreiner Marx
Elk Grove, CA
Respond to dom@cwo.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching KIOSZE -- Lithuania and East Prussia (Tilsit) #general

Marx, Jonathan Schreiner <John@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I am looking for the KIOSZE family. Rare name! They were originally >from
Lithuania, possibly the village of Kiutsi about 128 kil. >from Vilna. The name
might originally have been Kiotsinsky. But as they went into East Prussia, the
insky may have been dropped. My great-grandfather was Michael Kiosze. He died in
Dusseldorf or Essen of double pneumonia in 1911-12. Younger brother was David
Kiosze. Anybody with KIOSZE names in their families, please contact me. They lived
near Alt-Strehmenen near Tilsit by the Memel (or Niemen) river right on the
border.

Thanks

Jonathan Schreiner Marx
Elk Grove, CA
Respond to dom@cwo.com
***
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all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more
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