Date   

Las Vegas July 10-15th #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

Dear all,

If you have not yet registered for the 25th annual conference being held
in Las Vegas during July 10-15th, there are only 14 days left to register
online (as of Saturday June 11, 2005)

The conference program is available online at the following page:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/lv2005/program.htm >.

In the Resource Room, there will be special databases, translators and
Guests available only during the conference.

One of the "perks" of registering online before June 15th is you
can be assured that up to 6 of the surnames you are looking for will be
included in the Family Finder, distributed to all conference attendees.

If you register after June 15th, we will include your names on a separate
sheet to be distributed during the conference.

Shelly Weiner
LV2005 web g-ddess / LV2005 Resource Room Coordinator
Conference website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/home.htm


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Las Vegas July 10-15th #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

Dear all,

If you have not yet registered for the 25th annual conference being held
in Las Vegas during July 10-15th, there are only 14 days left to register
online (as of Saturday June 11, 2005)

The conference program is available online at the following page:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/lv2005/program.htm >.

In the Resource Room, there will be special databases, translators and
Guests available only during the conference.

One of the "perks" of registering online before June 15th is you
can be assured that up to 6 of the surnames you are looking for will be
included in the Family Finder, distributed to all conference attendees.

If you register after June 15th, we will include your names on a separate
sheet to be distributed during the conference.

Shelly Weiner
LV2005 web g-ddess / LV2005 Resource Room Coordinator
Conference website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/home.htm


Book of Residents #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

The Books of Residents are wonderful sources of information for all of us.
However, raising the amount of money needed to purchase all the volumes for
Lodz would take a very long time, if ever. Another crucial issue is
having the Cyrillic translated into English. It seems to make more sense to
hire a researcher to sit in the archives and do the translations without
purchasing copies of the volumes. Even this would be very, very expensive
for a city the size of Lodz with so many Jewish families.

As an alternative approach, perhaps people researching the same surnames
within Lodz could raise funds for a researcher to extract the data for
their surnames. At least this way the funding would be more manageable,
data would target personal interests, and results would be received in a
more timely manner.

I would hope that eventually the information obtained would be donated to
the SIG, compiled/organized into a presenatble format, and shared with all
Lodz researchers.

Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York


Lodz Books of Residents #lodz #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

Subject: Books of Residents

Indexing all the Lodz Books of Residents in Lodz would be a fantastic
project, but it is an enormous enormous task.

I have just talked to Stanley Diamond about it. He estimates that there are
180 volumes, 1440 households, and perhaps 200,000 entries. It could only be
done by professional archivists in Poland and would cost between $30,000 and
$50,000.


Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Book of Residents #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

The Books of Residents are wonderful sources of information for all of us.
However, raising the amount of money needed to purchase all the volumes for
Lodz would take a very long time, if ever. Another crucial issue is
having the Cyrillic translated into English. It seems to make more sense to
hire a researcher to sit in the archives and do the translations without
purchasing copies of the volumes. Even this would be very, very expensive
for a city the size of Lodz with so many Jewish families.

As an alternative approach, perhaps people researching the same surnames
within Lodz could raise funds for a researcher to extract the data for
their surnames. At least this way the funding would be more manageable,
data would target personal interests, and results would be received in a
more timely manner.

I would hope that eventually the information obtained would be donated to
the SIG, compiled/organized into a presenatble format, and shared with all
Lodz researchers.

Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Lodz Books of Residents #lodz #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

Subject: Books of Residents

Indexing all the Lodz Books of Residents in Lodz would be a fantastic
project, but it is an enormous enormous task.

I have just talked to Stanley Diamond about it. He estimates that there are
180 volumes, 1440 households, and perhaps 200,000 entries. It could only be
done by professional archivists in Poland and would cost between $30,000 and
$50,000.


Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA


Introduction; New book... #romania

Gzsuzsi@...
 

Hello Rom-Siggers,

I am new to your SIG, although a subscriber for ages at H-SIG.
Born in Oradea, my family's background rests mostly within that
area - at least that of the few members I knew.

For those of you who are also researching family >from Oradea,
there is a new book that may be of interest to you - the English
version of Terez Mozes's memoirs, which includes a detailed
description of Oradea's pre-war life, as well as ghetto life,
deportations, her concentration camp experience along with other
Oradean women, and post liberation life in the city. The book
was published by the University of Calgary Press under the title,
"Staying Human Through the Holocaust" and is a translation of her
original book "Beverzett kotablak",previously published in Hungarian
and Romanian in Romania.

Susan Geroe
San Diego, CA

Researching: SIMONOVITS, AUERHAHN, SCHEINER(Nadworna, Bardejov, Bushtyna),
KLEIN (Pier, Marghita), CZEIGER (Wien, Pier, Marghita, Tasnad)


Romania SIG #Romania Introduction; New book... #romania

Gzsuzsi@...
 

Hello Rom-Siggers,

I am new to your SIG, although a subscriber for ages at H-SIG.
Born in Oradea, my family's background rests mostly within that
area - at least that of the few members I knew.

For those of you who are also researching family >from Oradea,
there is a new book that may be of interest to you - the English
version of Terez Mozes's memoirs, which includes a detailed
description of Oradea's pre-war life, as well as ghetto life,
deportations, her concentration camp experience along with other
Oradean women, and post liberation life in the city. The book
was published by the University of Calgary Press under the title,
"Staying Human Through the Holocaust" and is a translation of her
original book "Beverzett kotablak",previously published in Hungarian
and Romanian in Romania.

Susan Geroe
San Diego, CA

Researching: SIMONOVITS, AUERHAHN, SCHEINER(Nadworna, Bardejov, Bushtyna),
KLEIN (Pier, Marghita), CZEIGER (Wien, Pier, Marghita, Tasnad)


Thanks to Lars Menk on JewishGen Wall of Honor #germany

GerSig@...
 

On behalf of all GerSIG members I've posted a "thank you" to Lars Menk in
Berlin for his generous help to many of us in the GerSIG Forum and also by
private E-mail.

You can read it at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors0.html

I'm sure that many other GerSIG members owe special thanks to people like
Mr. Menk who have helped them make breakthroughs in family research.

Anyone can create a "Thank You" message on the "Wall of Honor" with a
small donation to JewishGen. It's a win win - you provide recognition to people
who have gone out of their way to help you **** a n d **** you also say
"thanks" to GerSIG and JewishGen for their websites and all the email forums
like the one you are reading now.

You can post a "Thanks" or "Congratulations" or "In Memory of" notice
for all the world to see for about the same cost as a drive to your local
card shop to buy & mail a paper greeting card. And our way is more
friendly to the environment.

Remember - This will remain a free service only as long as
users support us with tax-deductable donations.

http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC - Coordinator, GerSIG gersig@aol.com


German SIG #Germany Thanks to Lars Menk on JewishGen Wall of Honor #germany

GerSig@...
 

On behalf of all GerSIG members I've posted a "thank you" to Lars Menk in
Berlin for his generous help to many of us in the GerSIG Forum and also by
private E-mail.

You can read it at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors0.html

I'm sure that many other GerSIG members owe special thanks to people like
Mr. Menk who have helped them make breakthroughs in family research.

Anyone can create a "Thank You" message on the "Wall of Honor" with a
small donation to JewishGen. It's a win win - you provide recognition to people
who have gone out of their way to help you **** a n d **** you also say
"thanks" to GerSIG and JewishGen for their websites and all the email forums
like the one you are reading now.

You can post a "Thanks" or "Congratulations" or "In Memory of" notice
for all the world to see for about the same cost as a drive to your local
card shop to buy & mail a paper greeting card. And our way is more
friendly to the environment.

Remember - This will remain a free service only as long as
users support us with tax-deductable donations.

http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC - Coordinator, GerSIG gersig@aol.com


Re: Las Vegas Conference registration #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

The following is posted on behalf of the Las Vegas Conference committee:

Dear all,

If you have not yet registered for the 25th annual conference being
held in Las Vegas during July 10-15th, there are only 14 days left to
register online (as of Saturday June 11, 2005)

The conference program is available online at the following page:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/lv2005/program.htm >.

In the Resource Room, there will be special databases, translators and
Guests available only during the conference.

One of the "perks" of registering online before June 15th is you
can be assured that up to 6 of the surnames you are looking for will
be included in the Family Finder, distributed to all conference
attendees.

If you register after June 15th, we will include your names on a
separate sheet to be distributed during the conference.

Shelly Weiner
LV2005 web g-ddess / LV2005 Resource Room Coordinator
Conference website:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/home.htm >


Romania SIG #Romania RE: Las Vegas Conference registration #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

The following is posted on behalf of the Las Vegas Conference committee:

Dear all,

If you have not yet registered for the 25th annual conference being
held in Las Vegas during July 10-15th, there are only 14 days left to
register online (as of Saturday June 11, 2005)

The conference program is available online at the following page:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/lv2005/program.htm >.

In the Resource Room, there will be special databases, translators and
Guests available only during the conference.

One of the "perks" of registering online before June 15th is you
can be assured that up to 6 of the surnames you are looking for will
be included in the Family Finder, distributed to all conference
attendees.

If you register after June 15th, we will include your names on a
separate sheet to be distributed during the conference.

Shelly Weiner
LV2005 web g-ddess / LV2005 Resource Room Coordinator
Conference website:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/home.htm >


Re: Las Vegas Conference registration #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

The following is posted on behalf of the Las Vegas Conference committee:

Dear all,

If you have not yet registered for the 25th annual conference being
held in Las Vegas during July 10-15th, there are only 14 days left to
register online (as of Saturday June 11, 2005)

The conference program is available online at the following page:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/lv2005/program.htm >.

In the Resource Room, there will be special databases, translators and
Guests available only during the conference.

One of the "perks" of registering online before June 15th is you
can be assured that up to 6 of the surnames you are looking for will
be included in the Family Finder, distributed to all conference
attendees.

If you register after June 15th, we will include your names on a
separate sheet to be distributed during the conference.

Shelly Weiner
LV2005 web g-ddess / LV2005 Resource Room Coordinator
Conference website:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/home.htm >


French SIG #France RE: Las Vegas Conference registration #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

The following is posted on behalf of the Las Vegas Conference committee:

Dear all,

If you have not yet registered for the 25th annual conference being
held in Las Vegas during July 10-15th, there are only 14 days left to
register online (as of Saturday June 11, 2005)

The conference program is available online at the following page:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/lv2005/program.htm >.

In the Resource Room, there will be special databases, translators and
Guests available only during the conference.

One of the "perks" of registering online before June 15th is you
can be assured that up to 6 of the surnames you are looking for will
be included in the Family Finder, distributed to all conference
attendees.

If you register after June 15th, we will include your names on a
separate sheet to be distributed during the conference.

Shelly Weiner
LV2005 web g-ddess / LV2005 Resource Room Coordinator
Conference website:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/home.htm >


Need info on Kalvarija & Liubavas FHL records or others #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

Has anyone checked FHL films: Evangelical Reform Church records of Kalvarija
1844-1894 to see if they contain any Jewish records?

I need records >from Lubow - Lubowo which is present day Liubavas, Lithuania
5422-2303. Family came to NYC 1869-72, so need earlier yrs.
Thank you,
Ellen Barbieri - Researcher #8682
San Diego, CA
elsal@cox.net

Researching: KAPLAN, GOLDBERG, KANOWICZ/COHN, KRAMARSKY/GRAMARSKY,
ZYMAN/SIMON - SUWALKI, LUBOW, NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need info on Kalvarija & Liubavas FHL records or others #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

Has anyone checked FHL films: Evangelical Reform Church records of Kalvarija
1844-1894 to see if they contain any Jewish records?

I need records >from Lubow - Lubowo which is present day Liubavas, Lithuania
5422-2303. Family came to NYC 1869-72, so need earlier yrs.
Thank you,
Ellen Barbieri - Researcher #8682
San Diego, CA
elsal@cox.net

Researching: KAPLAN, GOLDBERG, KANOWICZ/COHN, KRAMARSKY/GRAMARSKY,
ZYMAN/SIMON - SUWALKI, LUBOW, NYC


ARTICLE - JTA more on Ashkenazi intelligence and genetics #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear genners,

A JTA article gives more information on the topic and more
comments >from researchers and interested personalities.

http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=15509&intcategoryid=5

(remember to copy and paste the entire URL into your browser)

While the study proposes that occupations "allowed" to Jews
during medieval times account for improved genetic mental
agility, those quoted in this updated story note that at the same
time the Christian majority were selecting against an
intelligence gene due to celibacy of priests and monks,
preventing the most learned >from reproducing, Jews, on the other
hand, with historical devotion to learning, believed that the
best marriage partners were intellectually advanced students.
Jews who were economically better off had more children who lived
longer and who tended to marry others in the same "class."
Combined with very low intermarriage until contemporary times,
this tended to concentrate both good (e.g. intelligence) and bad
(e.g. genetic disease) genes.

There is some interesting information on a Gaucher's clinic at
Shaare Zedek Hospital (Jerusalem) whose patients are in high-IQ
professions.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@allrelative.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ARTICLE - JTA more on Ashkenazi intelligence and genetics #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear genners,

A JTA article gives more information on the topic and more
comments >from researchers and interested personalities.

http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=15509&intcategoryid=5

(remember to copy and paste the entire URL into your browser)

While the study proposes that occupations "allowed" to Jews
during medieval times account for improved genetic mental
agility, those quoted in this updated story note that at the same
time the Christian majority were selecting against an
intelligence gene due to celibacy of priests and monks,
preventing the most learned >from reproducing, Jews, on the other
hand, with historical devotion to learning, believed that the
best marriage partners were intellectually advanced students.
Jews who were economically better off had more children who lived
longer and who tended to marry others in the same "class."
Combined with very low intermarriage until contemporary times,
this tended to concentrate both good (e.g. intelligence) and bad
(e.g. genetic disease) genes.

There is some interesting information on a Gaucher's clinic at
Shaare Zedek Hospital (Jerusalem) whose patients are in high-IQ
professions.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@allrelative.net


re Were they from Poland or Russia? #general

Alice Josephs
 

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@earthlink.net> writes on Fri, 03 Jun 2005
03:27:51 -0700

<<Last time I was in Poland I had a very interesting conversation with
very well educated, very nice, English speaking Polish guy who expressed
to me his belief that much of the "anti-Jewish" feeling in Poland stem
from the "fact" that Jews had a different attitude and feeling toward
Russians. Another guy in Eastern Poland who was ethnic Belorussian
Orthodox insisted that members of his Belorussian Orthodox minority in
Eastern Poland had a much better attitude toward Jews and had a much
better relationship with Jews before the war than Polish Catholics
did.>>

Well, as far as I can tell - I don't pretend to be an expert and have
only relatively recently started researching the Polish (Russian
Polish) side of my family - such a discussion is a small part of the
complex, and often in the past, tortured jigsaw which makes up the
relations between - shall I call it Poles and Jews? Or non-Jewish Poles
and Jewish Poles?

This question of vocabulary is part of irresolvable questions through
the ages. Whether the questions of whether Jews were or were not
"Polish" or for that matter natives of other central and Eastern
European countries should have been posed at all is of course another
matter. But Poland has always been made up of what was defined as
"minorities" - Jews being among them, non Jewish Belorussians another
and Ukrainians another and so on. There has always of course been the
influence of the Catholic church for better or for worse and then
Communism.

I recently lent a book called The River Remembers by S L Shneiderman ,
a Yiddish journalist born in Poland ( ISBN 0-8180-0821-0), to a
university graduate Polish Catholic who grew up during the Communist
era. When she returned it to me, she told me she had made lots of notes
from it and said she had no idea the Jewish population had played such
an active part in Polish mainstream life. The Communist party in
Poland, as far as I can tell, had always tried to suppress the role of
religion and, along with some opponent Polish nationalist groups, also
suppressed the nuanced history of the Jews in Poland. Economic peaks
and troughs and political jockeying all played their part in attitudes
towards "the Jews" (who of course varied and vary as much as any other
group of people including non Jewish Poles).

I don't know of course whether her reaction is "representative". But
her received imagery had probably mostly been through the media and
perhaps lacking the depth and nuances which are needed when talking
about any group of people. It is true, as far as I have found out,
that many Jews found the ideals of Communism very attractive but others
were not interested and embraced the ideals of Polish independence
until they were ejected >from the nationalist cause.

>from what I can tell, Romantic Polish literature played no small part
in Polish nationalism and many Jews were influenced in their early
education by this as much as anyone else in Poland. Canadian Morris
Macarz who has written a biography Staying Ahead (ISBN 0-8158-0522-5)
writes that in his home town of Pultusk before Polish independence
Jews had lived relatively peacefully for centuries but after
independence, after the First World War, the Jewish population was
buffeted by a boycott movement and anti-Semitism - in no small part due
I suppose to the economic circumstances of the time.

Small wonder that many turned to Communism and, being a cross section
of the human race, some Jewish Poles and Jewish Russians found
themselves put in a position of power, and may not have acted in an
ethical way whether because of a bad convergeance of circumstances or
because of their own personalities or a mixture of both. Yet in the
Stalinist era the Jews found themselves still a target, although it is
a matter of debate whether many of those murdered and imprisoned were
targetted for being Jewish or just because so many of them were in
positions of authority in the USSR and therefore prime targets for
purges in the political infighting or a mixture of both.

I have recently heard that in Hollywood there has arisen a difficult
situation regarding a monument to fallen Soviet soldiers. What I have
heard is that former Soviet mostly Jewish army veterans in Los Angeles
wanted to put up the monument - a slab of red granite with lines >from
a Russian poet rather than a representation of soldiers and videos of
soldiers relating their experiences - but this immediately raised the
hackles of many Polish Catholic Americans who saw this not in terms of
the liberation of the camps but a vindication of how the former USSR
was allowed to take over Poland after the German National Socialist
invasion.

A symbol can mean different things to different people. This has to be
put alongside the present day politics in Poland itself and how Poland
is still redefining and negotiating how it deals with the states at the
heart of the former Soviet Union. I don't know whether the Hollywood
situation has now been resolved and I hope I have accurately defined
the situation. These are problems not to be carelessly written or
talked about.

This is only a small part of what I have learnt and I hope interpret in
a realistic way since tentatively treading the tangled path of Polish
Jewish genealogy and I am sure I have much else to learn, not least as
more and more literature is published by Polish Jews >from families who
have never left Poland.

Alice Josephs UK
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/ Jewish Pultusk
website : http://J-Pultusk.tripod.com
JABLUSZKO ROZENBERG Ciechanow DON GOLDMACHER GURMAN Pultusk, Poland.
STERN (STARR) Heppenheim HERZ Kochendorf MARKUS Otterstadt, Hainchen,
Roedelheim GRUEN GRUENEWALD Roedelheim HOCHSCHILD Gross Rohrheim
MAYERFELD Biebesheim, Germany.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re Were they from Poland or Russia? #general

Alice Josephs
 

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@earthlink.net> writes on Fri, 03 Jun 2005
03:27:51 -0700

<<Last time I was in Poland I had a very interesting conversation with
very well educated, very nice, English speaking Polish guy who expressed
to me his belief that much of the "anti-Jewish" feeling in Poland stem
from the "fact" that Jews had a different attitude and feeling toward
Russians. Another guy in Eastern Poland who was ethnic Belorussian
Orthodox insisted that members of his Belorussian Orthodox minority in
Eastern Poland had a much better attitude toward Jews and had a much
better relationship with Jews before the war than Polish Catholics
did.>>

Well, as far as I can tell - I don't pretend to be an expert and have
only relatively recently started researching the Polish (Russian
Polish) side of my family - such a discussion is a small part of the
complex, and often in the past, tortured jigsaw which makes up the
relations between - shall I call it Poles and Jews? Or non-Jewish Poles
and Jewish Poles?

This question of vocabulary is part of irresolvable questions through
the ages. Whether the questions of whether Jews were or were not
"Polish" or for that matter natives of other central and Eastern
European countries should have been posed at all is of course another
matter. But Poland has always been made up of what was defined as
"minorities" - Jews being among them, non Jewish Belorussians another
and Ukrainians another and so on. There has always of course been the
influence of the Catholic church for better or for worse and then
Communism.

I recently lent a book called The River Remembers by S L Shneiderman ,
a Yiddish journalist born in Poland ( ISBN 0-8180-0821-0), to a
university graduate Polish Catholic who grew up during the Communist
era. When she returned it to me, she told me she had made lots of notes
from it and said she had no idea the Jewish population had played such
an active part in Polish mainstream life. The Communist party in
Poland, as far as I can tell, had always tried to suppress the role of
religion and, along with some opponent Polish nationalist groups, also
suppressed the nuanced history of the Jews in Poland. Economic peaks
and troughs and political jockeying all played their part in attitudes
towards "the Jews" (who of course varied and vary as much as any other
group of people including non Jewish Poles).

I don't know of course whether her reaction is "representative". But
her received imagery had probably mostly been through the media and
perhaps lacking the depth and nuances which are needed when talking
about any group of people. It is true, as far as I have found out,
that many Jews found the ideals of Communism very attractive but others
were not interested and embraced the ideals of Polish independence
until they were ejected >from the nationalist cause.

>from what I can tell, Romantic Polish literature played no small part
in Polish nationalism and many Jews were influenced in their early
education by this as much as anyone else in Poland. Canadian Morris
Macarz who has written a biography Staying Ahead (ISBN 0-8158-0522-5)
writes that in his home town of Pultusk before Polish independence
Jews had lived relatively peacefully for centuries but after
independence, after the First World War, the Jewish population was
buffeted by a boycott movement and anti-Semitism - in no small part due
I suppose to the economic circumstances of the time.

Small wonder that many turned to Communism and, being a cross section
of the human race, some Jewish Poles and Jewish Russians found
themselves put in a position of power, and may not have acted in an
ethical way whether because of a bad convergeance of circumstances or
because of their own personalities or a mixture of both. Yet in the
Stalinist era the Jews found themselves still a target, although it is
a matter of debate whether many of those murdered and imprisoned were
targetted for being Jewish or just because so many of them were in
positions of authority in the USSR and therefore prime targets for
purges in the political infighting or a mixture of both.

I have recently heard that in Hollywood there has arisen a difficult
situation regarding a monument to fallen Soviet soldiers. What I have
heard is that former Soviet mostly Jewish army veterans in Los Angeles
wanted to put up the monument - a slab of red granite with lines >from
a Russian poet rather than a representation of soldiers and videos of
soldiers relating their experiences - but this immediately raised the
hackles of many Polish Catholic Americans who saw this not in terms of
the liberation of the camps but a vindication of how the former USSR
was allowed to take over Poland after the German National Socialist
invasion.

A symbol can mean different things to different people. This has to be
put alongside the present day politics in Poland itself and how Poland
is still redefining and negotiating how it deals with the states at the
heart of the former Soviet Union. I don't know whether the Hollywood
situation has now been resolved and I hope I have accurately defined
the situation. These are problems not to be carelessly written or
talked about.

This is only a small part of what I have learnt and I hope interpret in
a realistic way since tentatively treading the tangled path of Polish
Jewish genealogy and I am sure I have much else to learn, not least as
more and more literature is published by Polish Jews >from families who
have never left Poland.

Alice Josephs UK
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/ Jewish Pultusk
website : http://J-Pultusk.tripod.com
JABLUSZKO ROZENBERG Ciechanow DON GOLDMACHER GURMAN Pultusk, Poland.
STERN (STARR) Heppenheim HERZ Kochendorf MARKUS Otterstadt, Hainchen,
Roedelheim GRUEN GRUENEWALD Roedelheim HOCHSCHILD Gross Rohrheim
MAYERFELD Biebesheim, Germany.