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Re: Research Experince at LBI #germany

Jane Vogel-Kohai & Ofer Kohai <vogelko@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: If other GerSIG members want to comment on research experiences
at the Leo Baeck Institute (LBI) in New York, please include information about
your ability to read printed and handwritten German. Messages which do not
include this information will not be accepted. MODERATOR=======>

Although I conducted my research at LBI before the conglomeration with
YIVO and the JHS, and at the previous premises, I had incredible
success. I must point out that I had a whole lot more luck than anything
else. My grandfather, who was interested in genealogy and had made
rather extensive notes, was involved with the LBI and at his death, his
papers were left to the LBI. I had the good fortune, while here in
Israel, to find that his papers were there, through one of Avotaynu's
reference books (can't recall the name now). A few months later, I was
in NY, showed up at LBI, and asked for the material. Staff (a woman by
the name of Leigh) was extremely helpful and friendly, and provided me
with a photocopy of all the material. Since it was a lot, and I was
about to return to Israel, they sent it to me. It was incredible seeing
my grandfather's handwritten notes! I also found his photograph hanging
on one of the walls, together with some of the other officers of LBI.
Last year, I was again there,** but then I was looking for material from
the Jewish Historical Society. Best regards -

Jane Vogel-Kohai Moshav Mesillat Zion, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: The LBI is now located at the Center for Jewish History (CJH) in
New York. Other Jewish history organizations are also located in the CJH include:

YIVO, the (NY) Jewish Genealogical Society, the American Jewish Historical Society
and others. For more information about the CJH please visit their website. MOD1


German SIG #Germany RE: Research Experince at LBI #germany

Jane Vogel-Kohai & Ofer Kohai <vogelko@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: If other GerSIG members want to comment on research experiences
at the Leo Baeck Institute (LBI) in New York, please include information about
your ability to read printed and handwritten German. Messages which do not
include this information will not be accepted. MODERATOR=======>

Although I conducted my research at LBI before the conglomeration with
YIVO and the JHS, and at the previous premises, I had incredible
success. I must point out that I had a whole lot more luck than anything
else. My grandfather, who was interested in genealogy and had made
rather extensive notes, was involved with the LBI and at his death, his
papers were left to the LBI. I had the good fortune, while here in
Israel, to find that his papers were there, through one of Avotaynu's
reference books (can't recall the name now). A few months later, I was
in NY, showed up at LBI, and asked for the material. Staff (a woman by
the name of Leigh) was extremely helpful and friendly, and provided me
with a photocopy of all the material. Since it was a lot, and I was
about to return to Israel, they sent it to me. It was incredible seeing
my grandfather's handwritten notes! I also found his photograph hanging
on one of the walls, together with some of the other officers of LBI.
Last year, I was again there,** but then I was looking for material from
the Jewish Historical Society. Best regards -

Jane Vogel-Kohai Moshav Mesillat Zion, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: The LBI is now located at the Center for Jewish History (CJH) in
New York. Other Jewish history organizations are also located in the CJH include:

YIVO, the (NY) Jewish Genealogical Society, the American Jewish Historical Society
and others. For more information about the CJH please visit their website. MOD1


Re: Unpublished phone no. Detroit, Michigan #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:51:33 UTC, scohen@thejnet.com (S. Cohen)
opined:

The search for the identity of a 'Hidden Child of the Holocaust' has led to
a BINDER family of Detroit, Michigan that has an unpublished phone number.
Any information on how to obtain an unpublished phone number would be
appreciated.

Sheindle Cohen
Sheindle...

The whole idea of having an unlisted telephone number is to prevent
strangers >from calling. What you are trying to do is to frustrate the
legitimate desire of bamily BINDER for privacy. The Hidden Child
evidently prefers to stay hidden as much as he can. There are, of
course, ways to get around your problem; none of them are legal.

If you have a postal address, of course, you could mail them a letter.
Failing that, if it is important enough to you, you could place an
advertisement in a newspaper that you think they or their friends are
likely to read. If you can't think of an affordable, yet
non-telephonic, way to reach them, your search may have come to an
end. The pill may be bitter, but not all searches succeed.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unpublished phone no. Detroit, Michigan #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:51:33 UTC, scohen@thejnet.com (S. Cohen)
opined:

The search for the identity of a 'Hidden Child of the Holocaust' has led to
a BINDER family of Detroit, Michigan that has an unpublished phone number.
Any information on how to obtain an unpublished phone number would be
appreciated.

Sheindle Cohen
Sheindle...

The whole idea of having an unlisted telephone number is to prevent
strangers >from calling. What you are trying to do is to frustrate the
legitimate desire of bamily BINDER for privacy. The Hidden Child
evidently prefers to stay hidden as much as he can. There are, of
course, ways to get around your problem; none of them are legal.

If you have a postal address, of course, you could mail them a letter.
Failing that, if it is important enough to you, you could place an
advertisement in a newspaper that you think they or their friends are
likely to read. If you can't think of an affordable, yet
non-telephonic, way to reach them, your search may have come to an
end. The pill may be bitter, but not all searches succeed.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.


Re: Unpublished phone no. Detroit, Michigan #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

Try using www.zabasearch.com which uses public databases.

Zev Griner

S.Cohen wrote:

< snip >

Any information on how to obtain an unpublished phone number would be
appreciated.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unpublished phone no. Detroit, Michigan #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

Try using www.zabasearch.com which uses public databases.

Zev Griner

S.Cohen wrote:

< snip >

Any information on how to obtain an unpublished phone number would be
appreciated.


Re: Unpublished phone no. Detroit, Michigan #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

S. Cohen wrote on 23 aug 2005 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
The search for the identity of a 'Hidden Child of the Holocaust' has
led to a BINDER family of Detroit, Michigan that has an unpublished
phone number. Any information on how to obtain an unpublished phone
number would be appreciated.
Ask them.
They are the only ones authorized to give it to you.

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress)


Re: Unpublished phone no. Detroit, Michigan #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"S. Cohen" < scohen@thejnet.com > wrote:

The search for the identity of a 'Hidden Child of the Holocaust' has led
to a BINDER family of Detroit, Michigan that has an unpublished phone number.
Any information on how to obtain an unpublished phone number would be
appreciated.
Write to them by snailmail (I presume that you have an address for them) and
ask them to reply to you, with a phone number saying that it would be nice
to speak to them.

Before you try to obtain their phone number, I would suggest that you put
yourself in the position of the person that you are trying to contact - an
unknown person contacts them by phone when they have specifically requested
that their number be not published.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unpublished phone no. Detroit, Michigan #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

S. Cohen wrote on 23 aug 2005 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
The search for the identity of a 'Hidden Child of the Holocaust' has
led to a BINDER family of Detroit, Michigan that has an unpublished
phone number. Any information on how to obtain an unpublished phone
number would be appreciated.
Ask them.
They are the only ones authorized to give it to you.

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unpublished phone no. Detroit, Michigan #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"S. Cohen" < scohen@thejnet.com > wrote:

The search for the identity of a 'Hidden Child of the Holocaust' has led
to a BINDER family of Detroit, Michigan that has an unpublished phone number.
Any information on how to obtain an unpublished phone number would be
appreciated.
Write to them by snailmail (I presume that you have an address for them) and
ask them to reply to you, with a phone number saying that it would be nice
to speak to them.

Before you try to obtain their phone number, I would suggest that you put
yourself in the position of the person that you are trying to contact - an
unknown person contacts them by phone when they have specifically requested
that their number be not published.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


MOSES family #general

Lawrence Blum
 

Hi,
While researching my maternal grandfather, Joseph FARBMAN, I found him
in the 1901 Census in London. The address is No. 56 Royal Mint St., WhiteChapel
He is signed in as Joe FARBMAN, age 22 born in Russia living with
cousin.
His brother Morris FARBMAN, age 28 , born in Russia, living with cousin
is also listed.
The cousin and family record follows:
Nathan MOSES is head of family, age 42 , born in Russia
The wife is Rebecca, age 37, also born in Russia
The children are in order: Fannie 19, Jennie 17, Meyer 11, Louis 8,
Victor 6, all were born in WhiteChapel.
Is any researcher familiar with this MOSES family? This branch of my
grandfather's family is a
complete mystery.
Thanks
Lawrence Blum >from Port Richey, Florida
lblum1@tampabay.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MOSES family #general

Lawrence Blum
 

Hi,
While researching my maternal grandfather, Joseph FARBMAN, I found him
in the 1901 Census in London. The address is No. 56 Royal Mint St., WhiteChapel
He is signed in as Joe FARBMAN, age 22 born in Russia living with
cousin.
His brother Morris FARBMAN, age 28 , born in Russia, living with cousin
is also listed.
The cousin and family record follows:
Nathan MOSES is head of family, age 42 , born in Russia
The wife is Rebecca, age 37, also born in Russia
The children are in order: Fannie 19, Jennie 17, Meyer 11, Louis 8,
Victor 6, all were born in WhiteChapel.
Is any researcher familiar with this MOSES family? This branch of my
grandfather's family is a
complete mystery.
Thanks
Lawrence Blum >from Port Richey, Florida
lblum1@tampabay.rr.com


Re: INTRO - Researching Elizabeth Babetta VOGEL SILVERFRIEND #germany

Lars E. Menk <Lmenk@...>
 

Patrick Joseph Fish wrote on GerSig:

My primary research goals now are to find out: exact birth and emigration
information on Babetta >from Germany. I believe she emigrated to Canada via USA
in 1861 or 1862 to marry Moses SILVERFRIEND. Babetta's sister (Mrs. David
HAMMEL)of Hamilton, Ontario, Canada was the match maker.

Lars Menk replies:

David HAMMEL of Hamilton was born on 26 Nov 1838 in Gemuenden im Hunsrueck,
Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany, son of the butcher and cattle dealer Loeb
HAMMEL (Gemuenden, 24 Apr 1803 - 09 Feb 1857, Gemuenden) and his wife
Friederica GAMIEL (Argenschwang near Bad Kreuznach, ca. 1798 - 1884, New
London, WI). He emigrated to the USA in ca. 1851/52 and was living in
Syracuse, NY (1851-53), in Ithaca, NY (1853/54), in Hamilton, Ontario
(1857-66), in Appleton, WI (1866-1907), in Austin, Minnesota (1907-20), in
Chicago, IL (1920-28). >from 1900 to 1906, he was the mayor of Appleton. He
died in Chicago on 13 Oct 1928. On 21 Jan 1861, he was married to Helena
VOGEL, b. 24 Jun 1840 in Hennweiler near Kirn in the Hunsrueck.

Most of the information concerning the emigration of Jewish families from
Gemuenden to the territory of the Great Lakes (Appleton; Milwaukee;
Syracuse) in the mid-19th century stems >from John Henry RICHTER z"l.

A VOGEL family was living in Hennweiler in 1824. - It is possible that
Helena VOGEL's father was born in nearby Gemuenden, one of the sons of the
musician Isaac Aaron VOGEL (b. 31 Oct 1791; 1808 -63 living in Gemuenden)
and his wife Etel "Elisabeth" Mauses. (There is no trace in Gemuenden of
their sons Jacob VOGEL, b. 24 Mar 1817; Michel VOGEL, b. 13 Jul 1819; Marcus
VOGEL, b. 04 Mar 1821, Ludwig VOGEL, b. 28 Oct 1822.)

The SILVERFRIEND - SILBERFREUND family might have come >from Kraków, Galicia
(today in Poland).

Good luck with the further research.

Kind regards & Shalom,

Lars Menk Berlin, Germany Lmenk@gmx.net


German SIG #Germany Re: INTRO - Researching Elizabeth Babetta VOGEL SILVERFRIEND #germany

Lars E. Menk <Lmenk@...>
 

Patrick Joseph Fish wrote on GerSig:

My primary research goals now are to find out: exact birth and emigration
information on Babetta >from Germany. I believe she emigrated to Canada via USA
in 1861 or 1862 to marry Moses SILVERFRIEND. Babetta's sister (Mrs. David
HAMMEL)of Hamilton, Ontario, Canada was the match maker.

Lars Menk replies:

David HAMMEL of Hamilton was born on 26 Nov 1838 in Gemuenden im Hunsrueck,
Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany, son of the butcher and cattle dealer Loeb
HAMMEL (Gemuenden, 24 Apr 1803 - 09 Feb 1857, Gemuenden) and his wife
Friederica GAMIEL (Argenschwang near Bad Kreuznach, ca. 1798 - 1884, New
London, WI). He emigrated to the USA in ca. 1851/52 and was living in
Syracuse, NY (1851-53), in Ithaca, NY (1853/54), in Hamilton, Ontario
(1857-66), in Appleton, WI (1866-1907), in Austin, Minnesota (1907-20), in
Chicago, IL (1920-28). >from 1900 to 1906, he was the mayor of Appleton. He
died in Chicago on 13 Oct 1928. On 21 Jan 1861, he was married to Helena
VOGEL, b. 24 Jun 1840 in Hennweiler near Kirn in the Hunsrueck.

Most of the information concerning the emigration of Jewish families from
Gemuenden to the territory of the Great Lakes (Appleton; Milwaukee;
Syracuse) in the mid-19th century stems >from John Henry RICHTER z"l.

A VOGEL family was living in Hennweiler in 1824. - It is possible that
Helena VOGEL's father was born in nearby Gemuenden, one of the sons of the
musician Isaac Aaron VOGEL (b. 31 Oct 1791; 1808 -63 living in Gemuenden)
and his wife Etel "Elisabeth" Mauses. (There is no trace in Gemuenden of
their sons Jacob VOGEL, b. 24 Mar 1817; Michel VOGEL, b. 13 Jul 1819; Marcus
VOGEL, b. 04 Mar 1821, Ludwig VOGEL, b. 28 Oct 1822.)

The SILVERFRIEND - SILBERFREUND family might have come >from Kraków, Galicia
(today in Poland).

Good luck with the further research.

Kind regards & Shalom,

Lars Menk Berlin, Germany Lmenk@gmx.net


Translation od death certificate of WW1 soldier #germany

Neustaedter David <davidn@...>
 

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tell us the original language and the language of the requested translation. MOD1

Hello to all,
I received this document about an uncle that died in WW1.
Would someone be so kind as to translate this doc.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3D6697

Please respond privately. Thank you for your assistance.

David Neustaedter Nazareth Illit, Israel


German SIG #Germany Translation od death certificate of WW1 soldier #germany

Neustaedter David <davidn@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: When you request help with language translation please
tell us the original language and the language of the requested translation. MOD1

Hello to all,
I received this document about an uncle that died in WW1.
Would someone be so kind as to translate this doc.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3D6697

Please respond privately. Thank you for your assistance.

David Neustaedter Nazareth Illit, Israel


Biography of Oscar WASSERMANN #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Today's "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" (August 23, 2005) which is
published daily in Frankfurt am Main printed a review of the following title:

Barkai, Avraham: Oscar Wassermann und die Deutsche Bank. Munich:
publisher C.H. Beck, 2005. 181 pages. Euro 22,90.

>from the text the following dates are accessible:

WASSERMANN, Oscar, born 1869 as one of nine children of the banker Emil
WASSERMANN in Bamberg. A brother Max WASSERMANN is also mentioned. Oscar
became banker, too, was a leading manager of the Deutsche Bank >from 1912
until 1933 when the bank dismissed him even before it had to. He died 1934.

I have not seen the book. The review is accessible through the address
(in one line)

http://www.faz.net/IN/INtemplates/faznet/default.asp?term=Wassermann&tpl=common%2F
suche_erg.asp&cboTxtPrt=1&chkRubAll=1&chkRubPolitik=0&chkRubGesellschaft=0&chkRub
Wirtschaft=0&chkRubFinanzen=0&chkRubSport=0&chkRubFeuilleton=0&chkRubReiseWissen
Technik=0&suchzeitraum=3&txtFromDate=&txtToDate=

or through the address

www.faz.net

and "Suche".
I also have a paper copy.

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer Bielefeld, Germany


German SIG #Germany Biography of Oscar WASSERMANN #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Today's "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" (August 23, 2005) which is
published daily in Frankfurt am Main printed a review of the following title:

Barkai, Avraham: Oscar Wassermann und die Deutsche Bank. Munich:
publisher C.H. Beck, 2005. 181 pages. Euro 22,90.

>from the text the following dates are accessible:

WASSERMANN, Oscar, born 1869 as one of nine children of the banker Emil
WASSERMANN in Bamberg. A brother Max WASSERMANN is also mentioned. Oscar
became banker, too, was a leading manager of the Deutsche Bank >from 1912
until 1933 when the bank dismissed him even before it had to. He died 1934.

I have not seen the book. The review is accessible through the address
(in one line)

http://www.faz.net/IN/INtemplates/faznet/default.asp?term=Wassermann&tpl=common%2F
suche_erg.asp&cboTxtPrt=1&chkRubAll=1&chkRubPolitik=0&chkRubGesellschaft=0&chkRub
Wirtschaft=0&chkRubFinanzen=0&chkRubSport=0&chkRubFeuilleton=0&chkRubReiseWissen
Technik=0&suchzeitraum=3&txtFromDate=&txtToDate=

or through the address

www.faz.net

and "Suche".
I also have a paper copy.

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer Bielefeld, Germany


Re: LBI - The Charles Stanton Family Tree collection (mostly Franconia) #germany

paulaz@...
 

Although I have only "title page" German (as one of my library school professors
called it), LBI is rich in English language materials! Most notable is the Charles
Stanton collection of family histories which included some of my Cincinnati
forebears. Not only was there any early version of a family tree (I have
contributed the latest version) but it included correspondence >from and to
Mr. Stanton. I had heard of an extensive tree of another branch which is also
there and it was interesting to note that my ancestor was an afterthought for
the person who did the tree! Staff is wonderful and Karen Franklin knows it all!

Paula Zieselman New York city paulaz@ix.netcom.com

MODERATOR COMMENT - Many of us owe thanks to Charles Stanton for the + /- 2,000
family tree charts which he constructed by hand and shared generously with all.
Likewise to the Stanton family for donating this collection to the LBI.

It would be wonderful if these trees could be made available via the Internet but
this would be a very expensive project. MegaMillion Lottery winners who are
also GerSIG members - please keep this in mind. MOD1


German SIG #Germany Re: LBI - The Charles Stanton Family Tree collection (mostly Franconia) #germany

paulaz@...
 

Although I have only "title page" German (as one of my library school professors
called it), LBI is rich in English language materials! Most notable is the Charles
Stanton collection of family histories which included some of my Cincinnati
forebears. Not only was there any early version of a family tree (I have
contributed the latest version) but it included correspondence >from and to
Mr. Stanton. I had heard of an extensive tree of another branch which is also
there and it was interesting to note that my ancestor was an afterthought for
the person who did the tree! Staff is wonderful and Karen Franklin knows it all!

Paula Zieselman New York city paulaz@ix.netcom.com

MODERATOR COMMENT - Many of us owe thanks to Charles Stanton for the + /- 2,000
family tree charts which he constructed by hand and shared generously with all.
Likewise to the Stanton family for donating this collection to the LBI.

It would be wonderful if these trees could be made available via the Internet but
this would be a very expensive project. MegaMillion Lottery winners who are
also GerSIG members - please keep this in mind. MOD1