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Re: Croatia #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

Croatia is part of Greater Hungary, which this sig
covers.

And I personally have ancestors who lived in
Csaktornya (now Èakovec, Croatia).

--- Danielle James <daniandw@chariot.net.au> wrote:

Dear H-Siggers,

Could someone please tell me which SIG I should look
onto to find
relatives >from Croatia.

Kindest wishes to all,

Danielle
South Australia
Moderator: The northern part of present-day Croatia
was part of pre-Trianon Hungary. It would be easier
for us to help if you identify specific towns and
cities that you are researching.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Croatia #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

Croatia is part of Greater Hungary, which this sig
covers.

And I personally have ancestors who lived in
Csaktornya (now Èakovec, Croatia).

--- Danielle James <daniandw@chariot.net.au> wrote:

Dear H-Siggers,

Could someone please tell me which SIG I should look
onto to find
relatives >from Croatia.

Kindest wishes to all,

Danielle
South Australia
Moderator: The northern part of present-day Croatia
was part of pre-Trianon Hungary. It would be easier
for us to help if you identify specific towns and
cities that you are researching.


Re: translation help - Vienna Evangelischer Cemetery #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Bob Lenk of Greeley, Colorado, wrote: I emailed the
"Evangelischer Friedhof in Wien-Simmering"
(Protestant cemetery in Vienna) to inquire about some
relatives (who intermarried) who are buried there. I
have a couple of questions about the reply I received:

Betrifft Grabstelle 4 - 279 Schubert folgende Personen
wurden in der Grabstelle Beigesetzt:

1. Beerdigt am: 09.05.1914 Marie Schubert
2. Beerdigt am: 03.09.1965 Helene Schubert
3. Beerdigt am: 09.10.1969 Ernst Schubert
4. Beerdigt am: 07.01.1971 Charlotte Schubert

Die Grabstelle 4 - 279 wurde am 12.07.2005 von
Frau Hilde Woinik aufgelassen.

Question 1: I assume these are four persons buried in
the same plot (4 - 279), as opposed to the only four
persons named SCHUBERT in the entire cemetery.
Is that correct?

Answer: We do not know >from the answer how many other
SCHUBERT are buried in the cemetery but these four are
definitely in the same grave.

Question 2: Do I understand correctly that this single
plot was re-used in 2005 (and Fr. Woinik is buried
there)?

Answer: No that is incorrect. Fr. Woinik used to look
after the grave [a payment must have been involved]
but now has relinquished it. I presume, unless action
is taken, the grave will be reused.

Unlike in the Jewish cemeteries, these graves have a
finite lifetime. When you walk around the Christian
section of the ZF or other cemeteries in Vienna, you
often see little notice stuck into graves telling you
that the use of the grave has expired. One can of
course renew the timespan on payment of the requisite
amount. If this is not done in time, the headstone is
removed and usually lost for ever.

If you look at the Municipal non-Jewish cemetery
database for Vienna [includes the crematorium at
Simmering and another Christian Simmering cemetery,
you can see the expiry dates clearly stated:

https://www.wien.gv.at/grabauskunft/internet/Suche.aspx
Here is a KOHN grave chosen at random:
Familienname: Kohn - Vorname: Leopoldine
Bestattungsdatum: 12.04.1960
Friedhof: Simmering
Teil: N Gruppe: 1 Reihe: 12 Nummer: 2
Grabnutzungsrecht bis: 05.03.2007
Friedhofsadresse: Unter der Kirche 5, 1110 Wien
E-Mail address given at the Magistrat Wien
Telefon: 767 31 70

and for my grandfather at the Simmering crematorium -
a permanent grave bought at death:

Familienname: Kerner
Vorname: Richard
Bestattungsdatum:19.11.1935
Friedhof: Feuerhalle Simmering
Abteilung: 8; Ring: 3; Gruppe: 3; Nummer: 132
Grabnutzungsrecht: auf Friedhofsdauer

Friedhofsadresse: Simmeringer Hauptstr. 337, 1110 Wien
E-Mail is given at the Magistrat Wien
Telefon: 760 41 - 97892

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: translation help - Vienna Evangelischer Cemetery #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Bob Lenk of Greeley, Colorado, wrote: I emailed the
"Evangelischer Friedhof in Wien-Simmering"
(Protestant cemetery in Vienna) to inquire about some
relatives (who intermarried) who are buried there. I
have a couple of questions about the reply I received:

Betrifft Grabstelle 4 - 279 Schubert folgende Personen
wurden in der Grabstelle Beigesetzt:

1. Beerdigt am: 09.05.1914 Marie Schubert
2. Beerdigt am: 03.09.1965 Helene Schubert
3. Beerdigt am: 09.10.1969 Ernst Schubert
4. Beerdigt am: 07.01.1971 Charlotte Schubert

Die Grabstelle 4 - 279 wurde am 12.07.2005 von
Frau Hilde Woinik aufgelassen.

Question 1: I assume these are four persons buried in
the same plot (4 - 279), as opposed to the only four
persons named SCHUBERT in the entire cemetery.
Is that correct?

Answer: We do not know >from the answer how many other
SCHUBERT are buried in the cemetery but these four are
definitely in the same grave.

Question 2: Do I understand correctly that this single
plot was re-used in 2005 (and Fr. Woinik is buried
there)?

Answer: No that is incorrect. Fr. Woinik used to look
after the grave [a payment must have been involved]
but now has relinquished it. I presume, unless action
is taken, the grave will be reused.

Unlike in the Jewish cemeteries, these graves have a
finite lifetime. When you walk around the Christian
section of the ZF or other cemeteries in Vienna, you
often see little notice stuck into graves telling you
that the use of the grave has expired. One can of
course renew the timespan on payment of the requisite
amount. If this is not done in time, the headstone is
removed and usually lost for ever.

If you look at the Municipal non-Jewish cemetery
database for Vienna [includes the crematorium at
Simmering and another Christian Simmering cemetery,
you can see the expiry dates clearly stated:

https://www.wien.gv.at/grabauskunft/internet/Suche.aspx
Here is a KOHN grave chosen at random:
Familienname: Kohn - Vorname: Leopoldine
Bestattungsdatum: 12.04.1960
Friedhof: Simmering
Teil: N Gruppe: 1 Reihe: 12 Nummer: 2
Grabnutzungsrecht bis: 05.03.2007
Friedhofsadresse: Unter der Kirche 5, 1110 Wien
E-Mail address given at the Magistrat Wien
Telefon: 767 31 70

and for my grandfather at the Simmering crematorium -
a permanent grave bought at death:

Familienname: Kerner
Vorname: Richard
Bestattungsdatum:19.11.1935
Friedhof: Feuerhalle Simmering
Abteilung: 8; Ring: 3; Gruppe: 3; Nummer: 132
Grabnutzungsrecht: auf Friedhofsdauer

Friedhofsadresse: Simmeringer Hauptstr. 337, 1110 Wien
E-Mail is given at the Magistrat Wien
Telefon: 760 41 - 97892

Celia Male [U.K.]


Family KUCHER bERDICHEV/Yad Vashem. #ukraine

Sandra Bergman <sandrabergman@...>
 

I would like to contact Leonid Gitelman who gave testimony to Yad Vashem of
Yakov KUCHER and his mother Khasia KUCHER of Berdichev, G.R.T.S. Their
husband and father's name was Moshe.

Sandra Bergman
Melbourne
Australia.

Researching: KUTCHER-KUCHER-MICHOLITZ-MICHAELOVITCH-ETTINGER-TINGER-CANTOR-
MOSKAL-MONSKALL-PURCELL-PUCHINKSY-GOOBLAR-TOMPOVSKY-THOMPSON-SHERWIN
(UK & SOUTH AFRICA)-BERGMAN-BERKMAN-SMULLIAN-SMULLEN-REITMAN


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Family KUCHER bERDICHEV/Yad Vashem. #ukraine

Sandra Bergman <sandrabergman@...>
 

I would like to contact Leonid Gitelman who gave testimony to Yad Vashem of
Yakov KUCHER and his mother Khasia KUCHER of Berdichev, G.R.T.S. Their
husband and father's name was Moshe.

Sandra Bergman
Melbourne
Australia.

Researching: KUTCHER-KUCHER-MICHOLITZ-MICHAELOVITCH-ETTINGER-TINGER-CANTOR-
MOSKAL-MONSKALL-PURCELL-PUCHINKSY-GOOBLAR-TOMPOVSKY-THOMPSON-SHERWIN
(UK & SOUTH AFRICA)-BERGMAN-BERKMAN-SMULLIAN-SMULLEN-REITMAN


Re: Sending money home to Galicia #galicia

Peter Bein <thinkbig@...>
 

Anita and Karen:

I have Postal Telegraph receipts indicating that my father sent zlotys from
NYC to his mother in Gorlice, Poland between 1938 and 1940. Her return
letters >from Gorlice at that time indicate that she did receive at least
some of the money.

My father was also able to send packages of food to his mother, which she
did receive. The logistics of that transaction also puzzles me.

Peter Bein
Atlanta, GA

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Sending money home to Galicia #galicia

Peter Bein <thinkbig@...>
 

Anita and Karen:

I have Postal Telegraph receipts indicating that my father sent zlotys from
NYC to his mother in Gorlice, Poland between 1938 and 1940. Her return
letters >from Gorlice at that time indicate that she did receive at least
some of the money.

My father was also able to send packages of food to his mother, which she
did receive. The logistics of that transaction also puzzles me.

Peter Bein
Atlanta, GA

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Is anyone trying to contact Dorothy Dellar Kohanski? #general

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I have been having correspondence with several researchers and notes from
FTJP, but since about May 4, my computer crashed. So everything was lost.
Please recontact me if you have reason to do so. Note my new email below.
Happy hunting.
Dorothy Dellar Kohanski

Dorothy Kohanski
dkohanski@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Is anyone trying to contact Dorothy Dellar Kohanski? #general

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I have been having correspondence with several researchers and notes from
FTJP, but since about May 4, my computer crashed. So everything was lost.
Please recontact me if you have reason to do so. Note my new email below.
Happy hunting.
Dorothy Dellar Kohanski

Dorothy Kohanski
dkohanski@earthlink.net


Questions about the name Shmaryahu #poland

roe kard
 

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Some subscribers to individual messages received
this as a blank message the first time around, so we are reposting
it in a different format. Digest readers: sorry for the duplication!

I grew up with the information that my father was Chaim Yaakov ben
Shmaryahu, Chaim Yaakov the son of Shmaryahu. The thing is, there is
only one other Shmaryahu listed in all of JRI-Poland and that one has a
question mark after his name. There are other names that come up when I
list it in the "sounds like" category: Shmerke, Szmerko, Szmerek,
Szmerka, Szmerkow, Shmerko, Szmerke, Szmirek, Szmerech, and Szimko.

Does anyone know anything about this name "Shmaryahu"? Is there a
biblical personage with this name? Is it an abbreviated name or a stand
in for a different name e.g. Chaykala for Chaia? Should I assume that
the names that I listed are the Polish versions of this name and that
no one who had this name chose to list themselves for a birth, death or
marriage register as having this name?

Thank you.
B'shalom, Karen Rosenfeld Roekard
Berkeley, Ca.


JRI Poland #Poland Questions about the name Shmaryahu #poland

roe kard
 

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Some subscribers to individual messages received
this as a blank message the first time around, so we are reposting
it in a different format. Digest readers: sorry for the duplication!

I grew up with the information that my father was Chaim Yaakov ben
Shmaryahu, Chaim Yaakov the son of Shmaryahu. The thing is, there is
only one other Shmaryahu listed in all of JRI-Poland and that one has a
question mark after his name. There are other names that come up when I
list it in the "sounds like" category: Shmerke, Szmerko, Szmerek,
Szmerka, Szmerkow, Shmerko, Szmerke, Szmirek, Szmerech, and Szimko.

Does anyone know anything about this name "Shmaryahu"? Is there a
biblical personage with this name? Is it an abbreviated name or a stand
in for a different name e.g. Chaykala for Chaia? Should I assume that
the names that I listed are the Polish versions of this name and that
no one who had this name chose to list themselves for a birth, death or
marriage register as having this name?

Thank you.
B'shalom, Karen Rosenfeld Roekard
Berkeley, Ca.


Translation from Polish to English - Viewmate Listing VM7849 #poland

Herbert Huebscher <huebsch@...>
 

I would appreciate it if the JRI-PL record of the death of my grand aunt's
daughter could be translated >from Polish to English. The areas of
particular interest are the description of the parents, names, where they
are from, etc., and the comments sections.

Please go to Viewmate VM 7849 at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Thank you very much. Herb Huebscher
Herbert Huebscher huebsch@optonline.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Translation from Polish to English - Viewmate Listing VM7849 #poland

Herbert Huebscher <huebsch@...>
 

I would appreciate it if the JRI-PL record of the death of my grand aunt's
daughter could be translated >from Polish to English. The areas of
particular interest are the description of the parents, names, where they
are from, etc., and the comments sections.

Please go to Viewmate VM 7849 at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Thank you very much. Herb Huebscher
Herbert Huebscher huebsch@optonline.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


naturalisaton,friendly allies and ship lists #general

kisses@...
 

Hello,I have 3 questions which if anyone could answer either 1,2 or all of
them id be very appreciative.

First,my maternal grandpa and his family came to England,i have a copy of
the naturalisation papers.How long would they have had to have lived in
England before becoming naturalised?

Another ggf and his wife entered the Poor Jewish Shelter in London on
February 08 1910,on the record it says they came >from Dresden.What port?
Are there lists of ships and passengers >from Dresden?
I know about Hamburg but not Dresden.

My last question is;My ggf was supposedly a cook in the war as a friendly
alien,his name was David Ball,his brother S Bell,was also classed as a
friendly alien but was in the army on The Isle Of Man,in Douglas.
Is there a way to find out any more info about this.

Any help or advice would be great .
Michele Downes.England.

Please reply to kisses@blueyonder.co.uk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen naturalisaton,friendly allies and ship lists #general

kisses@...
 

Hello,I have 3 questions which if anyone could answer either 1,2 or all of
them id be very appreciative.

First,my maternal grandpa and his family came to England,i have a copy of
the naturalisation papers.How long would they have had to have lived in
England before becoming naturalised?

Another ggf and his wife entered the Poor Jewish Shelter in London on
February 08 1910,on the record it says they came >from Dresden.What port?
Are there lists of ships and passengers >from Dresden?
I know about Hamburg but not Dresden.

My last question is;My ggf was supposedly a cook in the war as a friendly
alien,his name was David Ball,his brother S Bell,was also classed as a
friendly alien but was in the army on The Isle Of Man,in Douglas.
Is there a way to find out any more info about this.

Any help or advice would be great .
Michele Downes.England.

Please reply to kisses@blueyonder.co.uk


Aufbau Obituaries #germany

Helen
 

I would be most grateful if someone who has access to back issues of Aufbau
could check two obituaries - 14 Feb 1986 for Lotte JONAS nee WOLLHEIM
and 30 May 2002 for Lotte STERN nee FRIEDE. Thank you.

Helen Hill Perth, Western Australia <bloomhill@iprimus.com.au>


German SIG #Germany Aufbau Obituaries #germany

Helen
 

I would be most grateful if someone who has access to back issues of Aufbau
could check two obituaries - 14 Feb 1986 for Lotte JONAS nee WOLLHEIM
and 30 May 2002 for Lotte STERN nee FRIEDE. Thank you.

Helen Hill Perth, Western Australia <bloomhill@iprimus.com.au>


Laws Mandating Fixed Surnames #germany

P. S. Wyant <p.wyant@...>
 

On 9 May, Sandi GOLDSMITH posted a partial list of European
jurisdictions and the dates (or years) in which fixed surnames were
mandated. The moderator asked if anyone knew the source of this list.

A list very similar to this list was published in Avotaynu, Vol. XII,
No. 2 (Summer, 1996), p. 34, by George ARNSTEIN, titled "Mandated Family
Names in Central Europe". If George is a subscriber to this list,
perhaps he can shed some further light on its origin.

I, too, have used this very useful list over the years and whenever a
new date/jurisdiction comes to light, have added to it.

Peter Wyant Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada <p.wyant@sasktel.net>

MOD NOTE: The list is available at JewishGen:
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/de-1.txt ( Exhibit 1 )


German SIG #Germany Laws Mandating Fixed Surnames #germany

P. S. Wyant <p.wyant@...>
 

On 9 May, Sandi GOLDSMITH posted a partial list of European
jurisdictions and the dates (or years) in which fixed surnames were
mandated. The moderator asked if anyone knew the source of this list.

A list very similar to this list was published in Avotaynu, Vol. XII,
No. 2 (Summer, 1996), p. 34, by George ARNSTEIN, titled "Mandated Family
Names in Central Europe". If George is a subscriber to this list,
perhaps he can shed some further light on its origin.

I, too, have used this very useful list over the years and whenever a
new date/jurisdiction comes to light, have added to it.

Peter Wyant Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada <p.wyant@sasktel.net>

MOD NOTE: The list is available at JewishGen:
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/de-1.txt ( Exhibit 1 )