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Re: 21st. St. Cemetery revisited--not to worry! #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/11/2006 9:23:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mimisimon@att.net writes:

<< The article was about damage to tombstones in the 21st St. Cemetery in
New York City, a cemetery belonging to congregation Shearith Israel, also
known as the Spanish and Portuguese synagogue. >>

==Don't panic, folks. The damage apparently was not serious. Apparently
particles of cement and mortar in the air, settling down on moist, cold stones.
The article said extra precautions were being taken, and the
builders/developers of the condo conversion would take care of any repairs
at the direction of the synagogue's architect.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 21st. St. Cemetery revisited--not to worry! #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/11/2006 9:23:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mimisimon@att.net writes:

<< The article was about damage to tombstones in the 21st St. Cemetery in
New York City, a cemetery belonging to congregation Shearith Israel, also
known as the Spanish and Portuguese synagogue. >>

==Don't panic, folks. The damage apparently was not serious. Apparently
particles of cement and mortar in the air, settling down on moist, cold stones.
The article said extra precautions were being taken, and the
builders/developers of the condo conversion would take care of any repairs
at the direction of the synagogue's architect.

Michael Bernet, New York


Pending US federal legislation would cripple genealogical research #general

Dick Plotz
 

Proposed regulations stemming >from the Intelligence Reform and
Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 would bar virtually all access to
vital records in the US for up to 100 years. States would not be
"required" to operate according to these regulations, but residents of
states that didn't would be barred >from essential federal government
services, so in practice no state could refuse.

For further information, see the article "Information is Power,"
<http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488>. I don't know
any more about this than it says in the article, so if you want to
know more, don't ask me.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pending US federal legislation would cripple genealogical research #general

Dick Plotz
 

Proposed regulations stemming >from the Intelligence Reform and
Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 would bar virtually all access to
vital records in the US for up to 100 years. States would not be
"required" to operate according to these regulations, but residents of
states that didn't would be barred >from essential federal government
services, so in practice no state could refuse.

For further information, see the article "Information is Power,"
<http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488>. I don't know
any more about this than it says in the article, so if you want to
know more, don't ask me.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


JGS Sacramento June 19 Meeting - Making the Most of Cemetery Research #general

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento

Topic: Making the Most of Cemetery Research

When: Monday, June 19, 2006, 7 p.m.

Where: Albert Einstein Residence Center
1935 Wright St.
Sacramento, CA

Are you getting the most out of your cemetery
research? Join us as Pam Dallas tells us how to
conduct cemetery research >from home, prepare for a
cemetery visit and obtain more information during your
visit. Related records will be discussed as well as
how to understand and use all the clues >from your
research.

“A cemetery is more than just the final resting place
of our loved ones,” Pam says. “It’s where we
commemorate their lives, mourn their passing, pay
tribute to our heritage, reaffirm our faith, treasure
our memories and seek our history.“ Pam notes that
lifestyle, nationality, occupation and even
personality can be studied via cemetery and tombstone
research.

Pam Dallas is a longtime Sacramento area genealogist
and speaker at many local and national conferences.
All are welcome to attend June 19 at the Albert
Einstein Residence Center, 1935 Wright St.,
Sacramento. For more information about the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Sacramento, visit
www.jgss.org, e-mail the JGSS at
jgs_sacramento@yahoo.com or leave a message at
916-486-0906 ext. 361.

Bob Wascou


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Sacramento June 19 Meeting - Making the Most of Cemetery Research #general

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento

Topic: Making the Most of Cemetery Research

When: Monday, June 19, 2006, 7 p.m.

Where: Albert Einstein Residence Center
1935 Wright St.
Sacramento, CA

Are you getting the most out of your cemetery
research? Join us as Pam Dallas tells us how to
conduct cemetery research >from home, prepare for a
cemetery visit and obtain more information during your
visit. Related records will be discussed as well as
how to understand and use all the clues >from your
research.

“A cemetery is more than just the final resting place
of our loved ones,” Pam says. “It’s where we
commemorate their lives, mourn their passing, pay
tribute to our heritage, reaffirm our faith, treasure
our memories and seek our history.“ Pam notes that
lifestyle, nationality, occupation and even
personality can be studied via cemetery and tombstone
research.

Pam Dallas is a longtime Sacramento area genealogist
and speaker at many local and national conferences.
All are welcome to attend June 19 at the Albert
Einstein Residence Center, 1935 Wright St.,
Sacramento. For more information about the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Sacramento, visit
www.jgss.org, e-mail the JGSS at
jgs_sacramento@yahoo.com or leave a message at
916-486-0906 ext. 361.

Bob Wascou


JGS - Hamilton (Ontario, Canada) & Area -AGM & Ellen Scheinberg - Wednesday, June 14, 2006 at 7:30 p.m. #general

HamiltonJewishGen <jgsh@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area Meeting
Wednesday, June 14, 2006
7:30 PM to 10:00 PM
AGM +
Speaker: Ellen Scheinberg - Ontario Jewish Archives
Location: Temple Anshe Sholom
215 Cline Avenue North, Hamilton, ON

We are happy to welcome Ellen Scheinberg as our speaker. Ms Scheinberg is
Director of The Ontario Jewish Archives, a department of the UJA Federation
of Greater Toronto which was established in 1973. The Archives is
responsible for acquiring, preserving and making available documentary
sources related to the Ontario Jewish community. Ms Scheinberg will acquaint
us with holdings which may be useful for our genealogical searches.

We will also hold our Annual General Meeting prior to introducing Ms.
Scheinberg. Please remember that only current members (those who have
renewed or are new members) will be able to vote. If you would like to join
us you can do so at this Wednesday's meeting. We are working on plans which
we hope will create a very exciting year for all our members.

We hope to see you all on Wednesday.

Hazel Boon
President
Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area
www.jgsh.org
jgsh@cogeco.ca
president@jgsh.org

The Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area (JGS - H&A) is a
non-profit organization that is run by members for members. Membership in
JGS - H&A is open to all regardless of religious affiliation or level of
experience. We have members who are just beginning their journeys as well as
some who are published genealogists. Membership fees are only $25 for the
year (May 1, 2006 - April 30, 2007). Admission for non - members is $5
which will be applied when joining in the same membership year. These fees
help to defray the costs of running our meetings.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS - Hamilton (Ontario, Canada) & Area -AGM & Ellen Scheinberg - Wednesday, June 14, 2006 at 7:30 p.m. #general

HamiltonJewishGen <jgsh@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area Meeting
Wednesday, June 14, 2006
7:30 PM to 10:00 PM
AGM +
Speaker: Ellen Scheinberg - Ontario Jewish Archives
Location: Temple Anshe Sholom
215 Cline Avenue North, Hamilton, ON

We are happy to welcome Ellen Scheinberg as our speaker. Ms Scheinberg is
Director of The Ontario Jewish Archives, a department of the UJA Federation
of Greater Toronto which was established in 1973. The Archives is
responsible for acquiring, preserving and making available documentary
sources related to the Ontario Jewish community. Ms Scheinberg will acquaint
us with holdings which may be useful for our genealogical searches.

We will also hold our Annual General Meeting prior to introducing Ms.
Scheinberg. Please remember that only current members (those who have
renewed or are new members) will be able to vote. If you would like to join
us you can do so at this Wednesday's meeting. We are working on plans which
we hope will create a very exciting year for all our members.

We hope to see you all on Wednesday.

Hazel Boon
President
Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area
www.jgsh.org
jgsh@cogeco.ca
president@jgsh.org

The Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area (JGS - H&A) is a
non-profit organization that is run by members for members. Membership in
JGS - H&A is open to all regardless of religious affiliation or level of
experience. We have members who are just beginning their journeys as well as
some who are published genealogists. Membership fees are only $25 for the
year (May 1, 2006 - April 30, 2007). Admission for non - members is $5
which will be applied when joining in the same membership year. These fees
help to defray the costs of running our meetings.


Post WW1 Polish citizenship #galicia

Peter Barber <peter_barber@...>
 

I hope I might be allowed to add a little 'hard' information. My family
originated in Galicia, but moved to Austrian Silesia (now in the Czech
Republic) in 1880 when my grandfather and his younger brother were still
quite small. Officially, though, they remained registered ('zustaendig') in
Dankowice in what in 1918 became Poland.

I suspect that the details of the provisions relating to nationality change
in the Versailles treaties did not receive much publicity in the area of the
former monarchy and that decisions about nationality were not taken when
there was the opportunity. It was only some years later that both
brothers became aware of the consequences of having acquired or been
allocated Polish citizenship. They had both lost their livelihoods in the
wake of the fall of the Monarchy (my grandfather's Tabaktrafik was handed
over to a Czech and a Czech replaced his brother as manager of a state
enterprise). >from the early 1920s onwards both desperately and repeatedly
tried to obtain Czech citizenship in order to be better placed when trying
to find jobs, but to no avail. My father, who had been born in Moravia, had
a fairly hard time obtaining Czech nationality too, but he did eventually
succeed.

One might conclude:

1. After 1918 your nationality was determined not be where you actuallly
lived but by where your family was registered unless within a relatively
short period you exercised your option to select another nationality.
2. Little information was passed on to the numerous people affected who
found themselves living in countries of which they were not citizens.
3. Bureaucrats sometimes took advantage of the situation to be spiteful.

Peter Barber

London, UK


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Post WW1 Polish citizenship #galicia

Peter Barber <peter_barber@...>
 

I hope I might be allowed to add a little 'hard' information. My family
originated in Galicia, but moved to Austrian Silesia (now in the Czech
Republic) in 1880 when my grandfather and his younger brother were still
quite small. Officially, though, they remained registered ('zustaendig') in
Dankowice in what in 1918 became Poland.

I suspect that the details of the provisions relating to nationality change
in the Versailles treaties did not receive much publicity in the area of the
former monarchy and that decisions about nationality were not taken when
there was the opportunity. It was only some years later that both
brothers became aware of the consequences of having acquired or been
allocated Polish citizenship. They had both lost their livelihoods in the
wake of the fall of the Monarchy (my grandfather's Tabaktrafik was handed
over to a Czech and a Czech replaced his brother as manager of a state
enterprise). >from the early 1920s onwards both desperately and repeatedly
tried to obtain Czech citizenship in order to be better placed when trying
to find jobs, but to no avail. My father, who had been born in Moravia, had
a fairly hard time obtaining Czech nationality too, but he did eventually
succeed.

One might conclude:

1. After 1918 your nationality was determined not be where you actuallly
lived but by where your family was registered unless within a relatively
short period you exercised your option to select another nationality.
2. Little information was passed on to the numerous people affected who
found themselves living in countries of which they were not citizens.
3. Bureaucrats sometimes took advantage of the situation to be spiteful.

Peter Barber

London, UK


Polish Passport post WW1 #galicia

Eleanor Platt QC <ateu54@...>
 

The Polish passport of my father-in law saved my husband his brothers and
probably his parents too. They remained in Berlin until August 1939, his
father having been tipped off about the Polish repatriation in 1938 and was
absent >from home.
The brothers arrived in England on the 23 August 1939 and the parents made
it a week later.
Eleanor Lind
London


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Polish Passport post WW1 #galicia

Eleanor Platt QC <ateu54@...>
 

The Polish passport of my father-in law saved my husband his brothers and
probably his parents too. They remained in Berlin until August 1939, his
father having been tipped off about the Polish repatriation in 1938 and was
absent >from home.
The brothers arrived in England on the 23 August 1939 and the parents made
it a week later.
Eleanor Lind
London


4 SALE: Pinkas Pruzany 1983 #belarus

jay Lenefsky <hotdog@...>
 

Dear One and All:

Just passing on something I thought you'd find interesting.

Anyone with an interest in the Pruzany District (today in Belarus) might be interested to know
that a number of copies of this book are being offered for sale by the Pruzany Landshaft Association in Israel.

For more information you can contact Avraham Harshalom [Moderator Note: Please contact
Jay for contact information.JG rules prohibit publication of this. This is allowed as a one-time commercial notice. ]

All the best,

Jay Lenefsky -Israel


Researching: Luria, Linevski, Alexandrowski -Belarus / Poland
Kuczer, Kutcher, Kutsher, Mahl, Gelb - Galicia
Skolnik, Berkowitz, Einbinder, Klaz, Anolik and Zagoren -Lithuainia


Name change #poland

Laurence Morrell <emorrell@...>
 

Name Change:

My great grandfather came to the US >from Bialystok. His 1876 marriage
license has him as Zelman. The JRI-Poland information has him listed as
Zalmen Marel. In the US, he was known as Solomon Morrell. His son, my
grandfather came to the US as an adult at a much later date. He was
listed on the ships manifest as Henry Morrell, not Marel. I can only
assume that when the purser was writing down the names for the manifest,
with the strong Polish accent and an English purser, it became
Anglicized to Solomon Morrell. Morrell is a common British name.
Who knows for sure. But I believe, in many cases the purser couldn't
understand the "Jewish " name and made it easier for himself.

Laurence Morrell
Maitland, Florida
searching: Morrell, Marel, Patt, Oruszkes, Rosen, Levinger


Belarus SIG #Belarus 4 SALE: Pinkas Pruzany 1983 #belarus

jay Lenefsky <hotdog@...>
 

Dear One and All:

Just passing on something I thought you'd find interesting.

Anyone with an interest in the Pruzany District (today in Belarus) might be interested to know
that a number of copies of this book are being offered for sale by the Pruzany Landshaft Association in Israel.

For more information you can contact Avraham Harshalom [Moderator Note: Please contact
Jay for contact information.JG rules prohibit publication of this. This is allowed as a one-time commercial notice. ]

All the best,

Jay Lenefsky -Israel


Researching: Luria, Linevski, Alexandrowski -Belarus / Poland
Kuczer, Kutcher, Kutsher, Mahl, Gelb - Galicia
Skolnik, Berkowitz, Einbinder, Klaz, Anolik and Zagoren -Lithuainia


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Name change #poland

Laurence Morrell <emorrell@...>
 

Name Change:

My great grandfather came to the US >from Bialystok. His 1876 marriage
license has him as Zelman. The JRI-Poland information has him listed as
Zalmen Marel. In the US, he was known as Solomon Morrell. His son, my
grandfather came to the US as an adult at a much later date. He was
listed on the ships manifest as Henry Morrell, not Marel. I can only
assume that when the purser was writing down the names for the manifest,
with the strong Polish accent and an English purser, it became
Anglicized to Solomon Morrell. Morrell is a common British name.
Who knows for sure. But I believe, in many cases the purser couldn't
understand the "Jewish " name and made it easier for himself.

Laurence Morrell
Maitland, Florida
searching: Morrell, Marel, Patt, Oruszkes, Rosen, Levinger


Re: Meaning of Fruchthaendler ohne #germany

reuven mor <mor@...>
 

Shalom to verybody concerned about Niederlage.
As a German speaker >from the South I did not even think that about "defeat"
in this context. To me it was clearly used as a synonym to "Niederlassung"
But if it needs experts, I hope the online Grimm dictionary is enough.
http://germazope.uni-trier.de/Projects/WBB/woerterbuecher/dwb/wbgui?lemid=GN
05230

Reuven Mohr Israel <mor@cbs.gov.il>


German SIG #Germany RE: Meaning of Fruchthaendler ohne #germany

reuven mor <mor@...>
 

Shalom to verybody concerned about Niederlage.
As a German speaker >from the South I did not even think that about "defeat"
in this context. To me it was clearly used as a synonym to "Niederlassung"
But if it needs experts, I hope the online Grimm dictionary is enough.
http://germazope.uni-trier.de/Projects/WBB/woerterbuecher/dwb/wbgui?lemid=GN
05230

Reuven Mohr Israel <mor@cbs.gov.il>


Re: Niederlassung #germany

Otto Schiff <oschiff@...>
 

The discussion of the term "Niederlassung" is a little odd.
The term Niederlage is ahead of the term Niederlassung in the
Langenscheid dictionary. and is beside the point. The word Niederlassung
is explained as follows. It means 1 establishment, 2 settlement, 3 place
of business.4 branch, agency.

All of these terms could apply to the fruchthandler's business. Regards,

Otto Schiff Schiff Carmel, California <oschiff@earthlink.net>


German SIG #Germany Re: Niederlassung #germany

Otto Schiff <oschiff@...>
 

The discussion of the term "Niederlassung" is a little odd.
The term Niederlage is ahead of the term Niederlassung in the
Langenscheid dictionary. and is beside the point. The word Niederlassung
is explained as follows. It means 1 establishment, 2 settlement, 3 place
of business.4 branch, agency.

All of these terms could apply to the fruchthandler's business. Regards,

Otto Schiff Schiff Carmel, California <oschiff@earthlink.net>