Date   

Collis near Gera #germany

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I am looking at Collis near Gera, Thueringia, Germany as a possible origin
of my KOLISCH family. I see that there is a three-volume work by Werner
Simsohn (d. 2001) on the Jews of Gera. Has anyone seen this?

Randol Schoenberg Los Angeles, CA <randols@bslaw.net>


German SIG #Germany Collis near Gera #germany

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I am looking at Collis near Gera, Thueringia, Germany as a possible origin
of my KOLISCH family. I see that there is a three-volume work by Werner
Simsohn (d. 2001) on the Jews of Gera. Has anyone seen this?

Randol Schoenberg Los Angeles, CA <randols@bslaw.net>


Re: Mommsen Gymnasium #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Judith Diamond, in London wrote:
"My father studied at the Mommsen Gymnasium in Charlottenburg, Berlin until 1917.
Can anyone give me more information about it, its precise address,
and whether the building survives?"

If you search under google.de, you will get a few hits, including a
reference to a publication of the Berlin Mommsen-Gymnasium, but also a
few other genuine references, if you ignore the ones >from other German
towns like Leipzig or Flensburg where other Mommsen-Gymnasiums exist:

http://www.flb-gotha.de/schulschriften/charlottenburg/ch_mgym.html

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


German SIG #Germany Re: Mommsen Gymnasium #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Judith Diamond, in London wrote:
"My father studied at the Mommsen Gymnasium in Charlottenburg, Berlin until 1917.
Can anyone give me more information about it, its precise address,
and whether the building survives?"

If you search under google.de, you will get a few hits, including a
reference to a publication of the Berlin Mommsen-Gymnasium, but also a
few other genuine references, if you ignore the ones >from other German
towns like Leipzig or Flensburg where other Mommsen-Gymnasiums exist:

http://www.flb-gotha.de/schulschriften/charlottenburg/ch_mgym.html

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


SICHEL entries in public records -in England #germany

Alan Ehrlich
 

Werner Zimmt's posting, in turn, struck a note with me, regarding my
JOSUA / JOSHUA ancestors.

My great grandfather's brother John JOSHUA, born in Hamburg Germany 1 Dec
1814, moved to London UK. He first appears in the 1881 census, which lists
him as a stock jobber, and by which time there weren't (and wouldn't any longer
have been any children - if there were any - still living in his household).

The only other JOSHUA I find in the Census is Philip Joshua, also in
finance, married to Margarethe (Mary Sophie) SICHEL, though it appears that
Philip JOSHUA may be unrelated to "my" John JOSHUA. Margarethe (Mary Sophie)
SICHEL is the daughter of Gustav August SICHEL:born 8 May 1825 and Henriette
Moritz GOLDSCHMID, born 4 April 1830.

1861 Census
-----------
Priory Road, Hampstead (London)
Gustavas SICHEL, head, married, 36, Commission Merchant, b Frankfurt
Germany, Nat. British Subject
Henrietta 30, b Manchester
Mary Sophia 8, b London
Alice Isabella 4, b London
Martha Augusta 8m, b London
Plus 3 servants.
RG9/92/12/23

1881 Census
-----------
153 Abbey Rd, London, Middlesex, England
Gustavas SICHEL, age 55, Retired Broker, b Frankfurt Germany
Henriette SICHEL, wife, married, 50, b Frankfurt Germany
Alice J. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 24, b Hampstead Middlesex
Martha A. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 20, b Hampstead Middlesex
Lucy SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 16, b Hampstead Middlesex
Dora A. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 15, b Hampstead Middlesex
+ 3 servants
RG11/0172 / 30/4

Directories
-----------
Directory of Manchester & Salford, 1853
SICHEL Gustavus, 7 Port Street

Post Office Directory of Middlesex, 1874
SICHEL G. 153 Abbey Road, Kilburn

Court Directory
SICHEL G. 153 Abbey Road, Kilburn NW

Post Office London Directory, 1882. [Part 2: Commercial & Professional
Directory] SICHEL Gustavus, financial agent, 5 Angel court EC

Children of Gustavus and Henrietta
----------------------------------
Alice Isabella SICHEL
Marriage Sep 1885 to MODEL, Louis: Marylebone 1a 1219

1881 Census
-----------
4 Howland St, London, Middlesex, England
Louis MODEL, unmarried, 25, Nat B S, Germany, Manufacturer Emp 18 M 3 By
RG11/0186/21/2

1901 Census
-----------
105 Tellows (?) Rd Hampstead
Louis MODEL, head, 45, Stockbroker agent, employer, b Germany BS
Alice, wife, 42, b London Kilburn + 3 servants

Martha Augusta SICHEL, b Sep 1860, Hampstead 1a 468
Lucy SICHEL, Dora A. SICHEL, b Jun 1866, Hampstead 1a 570

Gustavus had 3 brothers and emigrated to Manchester with his father
Sylvestro Augustus Sichel. Sylvestro, his father and his son Julius were
all Honorary Vice Consul to Austria in Manchester and the family and its
descendants were all involved in the manufacturing of Wool, Cotton and
textiles in Manchester (Lancashire) and Bradford (West Riding in Yorkshire)
England. This was all part of a great change in the north of England as the
Industrial Revolution was taking hold and the Empire was at its strongest
during this time. Gustavus went to London to become a stock broker and is
the only member of the family who did not stay in the North during the first
two decades after they emigrated. Kind regards,

Alan Ehrlich Geneva Switzerland alan.ehrlich@ehrlich-online.com


German SIG #Germany SICHEL entries in public records -in England #germany

Alan Ehrlich
 

Werner Zimmt's posting, in turn, struck a note with me, regarding my
JOSUA / JOSHUA ancestors.

My great grandfather's brother John JOSHUA, born in Hamburg Germany 1 Dec
1814, moved to London UK. He first appears in the 1881 census, which lists
him as a stock jobber, and by which time there weren't (and wouldn't any longer
have been any children - if there were any - still living in his household).

The only other JOSHUA I find in the Census is Philip Joshua, also in
finance, married to Margarethe (Mary Sophie) SICHEL, though it appears that
Philip JOSHUA may be unrelated to "my" John JOSHUA. Margarethe (Mary Sophie)
SICHEL is the daughter of Gustav August SICHEL:born 8 May 1825 and Henriette
Moritz GOLDSCHMID, born 4 April 1830.

1861 Census
-----------
Priory Road, Hampstead (London)
Gustavas SICHEL, head, married, 36, Commission Merchant, b Frankfurt
Germany, Nat. British Subject
Henrietta 30, b Manchester
Mary Sophia 8, b London
Alice Isabella 4, b London
Martha Augusta 8m, b London
Plus 3 servants.
RG9/92/12/23

1881 Census
-----------
153 Abbey Rd, London, Middlesex, England
Gustavas SICHEL, age 55, Retired Broker, b Frankfurt Germany
Henriette SICHEL, wife, married, 50, b Frankfurt Germany
Alice J. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 24, b Hampstead Middlesex
Martha A. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 20, b Hampstead Middlesex
Lucy SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 16, b Hampstead Middlesex
Dora A. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 15, b Hampstead Middlesex
+ 3 servants
RG11/0172 / 30/4

Directories
-----------
Directory of Manchester & Salford, 1853
SICHEL Gustavus, 7 Port Street

Post Office Directory of Middlesex, 1874
SICHEL G. 153 Abbey Road, Kilburn

Court Directory
SICHEL G. 153 Abbey Road, Kilburn NW

Post Office London Directory, 1882. [Part 2: Commercial & Professional
Directory] SICHEL Gustavus, financial agent, 5 Angel court EC

Children of Gustavus and Henrietta
----------------------------------
Alice Isabella SICHEL
Marriage Sep 1885 to MODEL, Louis: Marylebone 1a 1219

1881 Census
-----------
4 Howland St, London, Middlesex, England
Louis MODEL, unmarried, 25, Nat B S, Germany, Manufacturer Emp 18 M 3 By
RG11/0186/21/2

1901 Census
-----------
105 Tellows (?) Rd Hampstead
Louis MODEL, head, 45, Stockbroker agent, employer, b Germany BS
Alice, wife, 42, b London Kilburn + 3 servants

Martha Augusta SICHEL, b Sep 1860, Hampstead 1a 468
Lucy SICHEL, Dora A. SICHEL, b Jun 1866, Hampstead 1a 570

Gustavus had 3 brothers and emigrated to Manchester with his father
Sylvestro Augustus Sichel. Sylvestro, his father and his son Julius were
all Honorary Vice Consul to Austria in Manchester and the family and its
descendants were all involved in the manufacturing of Wool, Cotton and
textiles in Manchester (Lancashire) and Bradford (West Riding in Yorkshire)
England. This was all part of a great change in the north of England as the
Industrial Revolution was taking hold and the Empire was at its strongest
during this time. Gustavus went to London to become a stock broker and is
the only member of the family who did not stay in the North during the first
two decades after they emigrated. Kind regards,

Alan Ehrlich Geneva Switzerland alan.ehrlich@ehrlich-online.com


Help - Deciphering town name (Viewmate) #romania

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

It would really be appreciated if anyone can help me identify the
town name listed in this Ohio death certificate as the birthplace of
the deceased and of both of his parents.

Posted on Viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9453

Or a shorter version (if the above URL splits on more than one line) :

http://tinyurl.com/36svy3

The subject of this death certificate lived after his marriage in
Szeleslonka (also known as Leh or as Shirukiy Lug), Marmaros,
Austro-Hungary, which is currently located in southwestern Ukraine
near the Romainian border, between the cities Chust and Sziget.

This place name doesn't seem to resemble any of the place names
in the entire surrounding region of Marmaros, Austro-Hungary! See:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/maramures/mar901.html>

for a list of the town names in the Marmaros region. Perhaps this
town is >from one of the surrounding Counties?)

Thanking you in advance,

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem


Romania SIG #Romania Help - Deciphering town name (Viewmate) #romania

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

It would really be appreciated if anyone can help me identify the
town name listed in this Ohio death certificate as the birthplace of
the deceased and of both of his parents.

Posted on Viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9453

Or a shorter version (if the above URL splits on more than one line) :

http://tinyurl.com/36svy3

The subject of this death certificate lived after his marriage in
Szeleslonka (also known as Leh or as Shirukiy Lug), Marmaros,
Austro-Hungary, which is currently located in southwestern Ukraine
near the Romainian border, between the cities Chust and Sziget.

This place name doesn't seem to resemble any of the place names
in the entire surrounding region of Marmaros, Austro-Hungary! See:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/maramures/mar901.html>

for a list of the town names in the Marmaros region. Perhaps this
town is >from one of the surrounding Counties?)

Thanking you in advance,

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem


Re: Unusual Occupation #unitedkingdom

Stein Lewis
 

Some fifty-five years ago, during services at our tiny synagogue in
Ardmore, Oklahoma (17 families), a group of tramps came in and sat in
the last two rows. One of them was Jewish, and he needed to say
kaddish. They stayed for a bit of wine and left.

Lewis Stein
Boynton Beach, FL

MODERATOR NOTE: Whilst this has no bearing on UK research it has been allowed through
for posting as it responds to Harold Pollins email.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Unusual Occupation #unitedkingdom

Stein Lewis
 

Some fifty-five years ago, during services at our tiny synagogue in
Ardmore, Oklahoma (17 families), a group of tramps came in and sat in
the last two rows. One of them was Jewish, and he needed to say
kaddish. They stayed for a bit of wine and left.

Lewis Stein
Boynton Beach, FL

MODERATOR NOTE: Whilst this has no bearing on UK research it has been allowed through
for posting as it responds to Harold Pollins email.


Re: Halevi Benveniste/Halevi Epstein connection #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/12/2007 5:27:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
meepstein@insightbb.com writes:

<< Has anyone ever followed the families of Pincus and Aaron Halevi
Benveniste?
These brothers left Portugal with their families at the end of the 13
century. They separated and Pincus changed his family name to Horowitz and
Aaron changed his family name to Epstein. We are trying to see if there is a
connection between our Halevi Epstein family and that of Aarons.>>

==That is one version of a common story that is probably largely true. But
there is much dispute over which geographic Epstein location they were named
after. The common version has the Benvenistes coming out of Spain in 1492, two
centuries later. In the family's split, it's usually reported, one half went
to Greece, the other to Austria.

==Horowitz took their name >from a town in Bohemia. They too are Levites.
That may be the only link they have to the Epsteins.

==I suggest you do a thorough search on these two families and their
accepted histories and establish for yourself whether a search for your Portuguese
roots is worth the effort. It may be much easier to trace your way back >from
your parents, generation by generation. You may quite possibly find direct
links for 4 centuries. Anything beyond that is pure gravy.

Michael Bernet, New York
MBernet@aol.com


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: Halevi Benveniste/Halevi Epstein connection #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/12/2007 5:27:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
meepstein@insightbb.com writes:

<< Has anyone ever followed the families of Pincus and Aaron Halevi
Benveniste?
These brothers left Portugal with their families at the end of the 13
century. They separated and Pincus changed his family name to Horowitz and
Aaron changed his family name to Epstein. We are trying to see if there is a
connection between our Halevi Epstein family and that of Aarons.>>

==That is one version of a common story that is probably largely true. But
there is much dispute over which geographic Epstein location they were named
after. The common version has the Benvenistes coming out of Spain in 1492, two
centuries later. In the family's split, it's usually reported, one half went
to Greece, the other to Austria.

==Horowitz took their name >from a town in Bohemia. They too are Levites.
That may be the only link they have to the Epsteins.

==I suggest you do a thorough search on these two families and their
accepted histories and establish for yourself whether a search for your Portuguese
roots is worth the effort. It may be much easier to trace your way back >from
your parents, generation by generation. You may quite possibly find direct
links for 4 centuries. Anything beyond that is pure gravy.

Michael Bernet, New York
MBernet@aol.com


Revised Posting Isadore COHEN 1904 NYC #general

JSwilliams67362@...
 

It has been suggested that I add more information to my original posting.

My grandfather, Jacob (or Jack as he is shown on the ship's manifest)
ROSENTHAL, b 1873 in London, then married and residing in Manchester, travelled
to the States in 1904 to stay with his cousin Isadore COHEN at 312 E 91st, NYC I
had hoped that someone might recognise their Isadore >from this address.
Jacob only stayed there for a few years before returning to England.

I do not know of any Cohens on my grandfather's side of the family. Of
course, Isadore could have been the son of one of his father's or mother's
siblings - they were Lewis Rosenthal and Betsy SOLOMONS. However Jacob's mother
in law was born Adelaide Cohen in the 1840s in Poland and married Solomon CUKIER
(later anglicised to SUGAR) who was >from Novy Dvor, nr Warsaw. The family
came to the UK in the 1870s. Isadore could have been on her side of the family.

Judith Williams
Leeds
UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Revised Posting Isadore COHEN 1904 NYC #general

JSwilliams67362@...
 

It has been suggested that I add more information to my original posting.

My grandfather, Jacob (or Jack as he is shown on the ship's manifest)
ROSENTHAL, b 1873 in London, then married and residing in Manchester, travelled
to the States in 1904 to stay with his cousin Isadore COHEN at 312 E 91st, NYC I
had hoped that someone might recognise their Isadore >from this address.
Jacob only stayed there for a few years before returning to England.

I do not know of any Cohens on my grandfather's side of the family. Of
course, Isadore could have been the son of one of his father's or mother's
siblings - they were Lewis Rosenthal and Betsy SOLOMONS. However Jacob's mother
in law was born Adelaide Cohen in the 1840s in Poland and married Solomon CUKIER
(later anglicised to SUGAR) who was >from Novy Dvor, nr Warsaw. The family
came to the UK in the 1870s. Isadore could have been on her side of the family.

Judith Williams
Leeds
UK


Re: Burgenland Research #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Dear All,

Please understand that JewishGen does NOT control scheduling for the =20
IAJGS conference. I have been in contact with Henry Wellisch about =20
finding a time for him to meet at the conference with those who are =20
researching roots in Burgenland. If you are planning to attend the =20
conference in Salt Lake City and are interested in such a session, =20
please contact me or Henry.

Thanks for calling attention to the fact that the header on the H-SIG
website should probably be revised to make clear that H-SIG covers all
of pre-Trianon Hungary. Unfortunately, it takes time to maintain the
website and no one has volunteered for this assignment. Carol Robinson,
who spends many hours coordinating H-SIG research projects has also been
serving as acting webmeaster and trying to keep the website up to date because no one among the many H-
SIG subscribers has volunteered to for this assignment.

Sorry if anyone is offended by my comments, but this is a volunteer =20
operation and those of us who devote hours and hours would appreciate =20=

your support. Please don't complain unless you are willing to donate =20=

time or funds to support H-SIG activities. We would love to update =20
the website! Any volunteers with skills and willingness to help??

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

On Feb 11, 2007, at 9:05 PM, H-SIG digest wrote:

H-SIG Digest for Saturday, February 10, 2007.

1. Burgenland Research

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Burgenland Research
From: "Carole G. Vogel" <carolevogel@rcn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:35:52 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Group,

I was in Germany near the end of January and have spent the past =20
week at
home playing catch up so I am late in responding to some topics =20
that were
previously posted.

First of all I would like to thank Omri Arnon for identifying the =20
source of
my 1738 Household Inventory >from Mattersdorf as the Magyar-Zsido =20
Oklevetar.
A friend of mine went to the Leo Baeck Institute and confirmed for =20
himself
that this source indeed contains the same information as my inventory,
although as Omri already noted, the pagination is different. My =20
friend was
disappointed to find, however, that there were no similar listings =20
for the
other Jewish communities in Esterhazy lands.

Second, I would like to thank Traude Triebel for providing the contact
information for the Esterhazy archive in Forchtenstein. I have been =20=
wanting
to contact the archive about the existence of the =93Spanish Room.=94 =
I =20
was told
that the Jews of Mattersdorf had occasionally sold to the Esterhazy =20=
princes
silver and gold artifacts that they had brought >from Spain in order =20=
to pay
taxes. The Esterhazy princes supposedly collected these artifacts =20
at the
Forchtenstein Castle in a special room called the =93Spanish Room.=94 =20=
It would
be exceedingly interesting to find out if this true and to examine the
objects. Perhaps an expert in Spanish artifacts would be able to =20
identify
the region where the artifacts were produced. Has anyone else on =20
this list
ever heard of the Spanish Room?

Third, like Maureen Tighe-Brown I was alarmed by the suggestion that
discussion of the =93Seven Communities=94 of the Esterhazy estate =
lands =20
should
be taken off list. It feels in general like the Jewish communities of
Burgenland are the unwanted stepchildren of the H-Sig. This is most =20=
evident
if you go to the H-Sig=92s home page. In the top right hand corner the
description of H-SIG says that it =93covers all those areas that were =20=
once
predominantly Hungarian-speaking.=94 Well, the Jews of Burgenland were
primarily German-speaking. Except for the term =93pre-Trianon, =20
Hungary=94 (which
is rather obscure to begin with) and the word =93Austria=94 there is =20=
nothing on
the homepage and little elsewhere on the website that signals =20
Burgenland
researchers that the H-Sig is their support group. This is the =20
reason it
took me so long to join the H-Sig even though I have been actively
researching Burgenland communities for more than 25 years.

Fourth, the SLC Program Committee=92s rejection of Henry Wellisch=92s
presentation on the Jews of Burgenland underscores the lack of =20
support that
Burgenland researchers are receiving in general. How can =93overall =20=
interest
in the subject=94 be demonstrated if there is no platform on which to =20=
present
it?

Griping aside, I would like to thank this group for the warm =20
welcome you
have given me.

Carole G. Vogel
Lexington, Massachusetts


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Burgenland Research #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Dear All,

Please understand that JewishGen does NOT control scheduling for the =20
IAJGS conference. I have been in contact with Henry Wellisch about =20
finding a time for him to meet at the conference with those who are =20
researching roots in Burgenland. If you are planning to attend the =20
conference in Salt Lake City and are interested in such a session, =20
please contact me or Henry.

Thanks for calling attention to the fact that the header on the H-SIG
website should probably be revised to make clear that H-SIG covers all
of pre-Trianon Hungary. Unfortunately, it takes time to maintain the
website and no one has volunteered for this assignment. Carol Robinson,
who spends many hours coordinating H-SIG research projects has also been
serving as acting webmeaster and trying to keep the website up to date because no one among the many H-
SIG subscribers has volunteered to for this assignment.

Sorry if anyone is offended by my comments, but this is a volunteer =20
operation and those of us who devote hours and hours would appreciate =20=

your support. Please don't complain unless you are willing to donate =20=

time or funds to support H-SIG activities. We would love to update =20
the website! Any volunteers with skills and willingness to help??

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

On Feb 11, 2007, at 9:05 PM, H-SIG digest wrote:

H-SIG Digest for Saturday, February 10, 2007.

1. Burgenland Research

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Burgenland Research
From: "Carole G. Vogel" <carolevogel@rcn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:35:52 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Group,

I was in Germany near the end of January and have spent the past =20
week at
home playing catch up so I am late in responding to some topics =20
that were
previously posted.

First of all I would like to thank Omri Arnon for identifying the =20
source of
my 1738 Household Inventory >from Mattersdorf as the Magyar-Zsido =20
Oklevetar.
A friend of mine went to the Leo Baeck Institute and confirmed for =20
himself
that this source indeed contains the same information as my inventory,
although as Omri already noted, the pagination is different. My =20
friend was
disappointed to find, however, that there were no similar listings =20
for the
other Jewish communities in Esterhazy lands.

Second, I would like to thank Traude Triebel for providing the contact
information for the Esterhazy archive in Forchtenstein. I have been =20=
wanting
to contact the archive about the existence of the =93Spanish Room.=94 =
I =20
was told
that the Jews of Mattersdorf had occasionally sold to the Esterhazy =20=
princes
silver and gold artifacts that they had brought >from Spain in order =20=
to pay
taxes. The Esterhazy princes supposedly collected these artifacts =20
at the
Forchtenstein Castle in a special room called the =93Spanish Room.=94 =20=
It would
be exceedingly interesting to find out if this true and to examine the
objects. Perhaps an expert in Spanish artifacts would be able to =20
identify
the region where the artifacts were produced. Has anyone else on =20
this list
ever heard of the Spanish Room?

Third, like Maureen Tighe-Brown I was alarmed by the suggestion that
discussion of the =93Seven Communities=94 of the Esterhazy estate =
lands =20
should
be taken off list. It feels in general like the Jewish communities of
Burgenland are the unwanted stepchildren of the H-Sig. This is most =20=
evident
if you go to the H-Sig=92s home page. In the top right hand corner the
description of H-SIG says that it =93covers all those areas that were =20=
once
predominantly Hungarian-speaking.=94 Well, the Jews of Burgenland were
primarily German-speaking. Except for the term =93pre-Trianon, =20
Hungary=94 (which
is rather obscure to begin with) and the word =93Austria=94 there is =20=
nothing on
the homepage and little elsewhere on the website that signals =20
Burgenland
researchers that the H-Sig is their support group. This is the =20
reason it
took me so long to join the H-Sig even though I have been actively
researching Burgenland communities for more than 25 years.

Fourth, the SLC Program Committee=92s rejection of Henry Wellisch=92s
presentation on the Jews of Burgenland underscores the lack of =20
support that
Burgenland researchers are receiving in general. How can =93overall =20=
interest
in the subject=94 be demonstrated if there is no platform on which to =20=
present
it?

Griping aside, I would like to thank this group for the warm =20
welcome you
have given me.

Carole G. Vogel
Lexington, Massachusetts


Inclusion of SSecurity #s in Family Trees? #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

The Social Security Death Index, available at several on-line sites,
gives the SS # of the deceased, plus a few more bits of information.
As to recording that information in the notes for our dear deceased,
do you consider it necessary, unethical, dangerous...? I love to copy
down information, as do all of us, but I suddernly wondered of what
use the number would be to a family historian. Such findings would
likely appear in the sort of family books we publish for our relatives.

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


BEERS and BERKSCHNEIDER #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cynthia,

I don't know if this will be of any help to you, but a gentile
acquaintance told me the story that his grandmother's side of the
family was rumored to have been Jewish, but it had been kept a secret
for years. Once, on a trip to his small hometown in Texas, he visited
the cemetery where his grandmother was buried, and sure enough, there
was a Star of David on the stone!

I write this because you didn't mention whether or not the family was
Jewish, and as an avenue of research for others who are unsure of
their Jewish heritage.

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Inclusion of SSecurity #s in Family Trees? #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

The Social Security Death Index, available at several on-line sites,
gives the SS # of the deceased, plus a few more bits of information.
As to recording that information in the notes for our dear deceased,
do you consider it necessary, unethical, dangerous...? I love to copy
down information, as do all of us, but I suddernly wondered of what
use the number would be to a family historian. Such findings would
likely appear in the sort of family books we publish for our relatives.

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BEERS and BERKSCHNEIDER #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cynthia,

I don't know if this will be of any help to you, but a gentile
acquaintance told me the story that his grandmother's side of the
family was rumored to have been Jewish, but it had been kept a secret
for years. Once, on a trip to his small hometown in Texas, he visited
the cemetery where his grandmother was buried, and sure enough, there
was a Star of David on the stone!

I write this because you didn't mention whether or not the family was
Jewish, and as an avenue of research for others who are unsure of
their Jewish heritage.

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ