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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bad Kudowa puzzle 1922 #general

Sue Clamp <clamp@...>
 

I have a photograph on my web site of a large group, taken at Bad Kudowa
in 1922:

http://www.clamp.dsl.pipex.com/gen20.html

My grandmother was staying at the Hotel Austria and is in the
photograph, towards the back. There may have been another (female) guest
there by the name of RAPAPORT, to whom my great uncle refers in one of
his postcards to my grandmother while she was there.

I have had these cards a long time and it has always puzzled me that my
grandmother would have gone to such a place all the way >from her home in
London. The main puzzle is that the cards, although sent to the hotel
and clearly marked "fir Frau Rosenberg", were addressed to Hern POLAK.
Would this have been the hotel owner? Why would he have addressed the
cards in this way?

>from what he writes, we are beginning to suspect that there might have
been a relative in Kudowa, maybe the wife of Herr Polak? We know that
there was a sister even though we do not know her name. The postcards,
in Yiddish (I have translations of these), are linked to >from the same
page. If you recognise anybody in the picture, or know how I might
discover more about the Polaks, please let me know.

Many thanks,

Sue Clamp
Cambridgeshire, UK

Searching: ROSENBERG (Warsaw and Serock), SKOWRONEK, HERSZENKRUG,
CHENCINER, DRUSZN, KRIGSMAN, KRIEGSMAN (Warsaw)


Bad Kudowa puzzle 1922 #general

Sue Clamp <clamp@...>
 

I have a photograph on my web site of a large group, taken at Bad Kudowa
in 1922:

http://www.clamp.dsl.pipex.com/gen20.html

My grandmother was staying at the Hotel Austria and is in the
photograph, towards the back. There may have been another (female) guest
there by the name of RAPAPORT, to whom my great uncle refers in one of
his postcards to my grandmother while she was there.

I have had these cards a long time and it has always puzzled me that my
grandmother would have gone to such a place all the way >from her home in
London. The main puzzle is that the cards, although sent to the hotel
and clearly marked "fir Frau Rosenberg", were addressed to Hern POLAK.
Would this have been the hotel owner? Why would he have addressed the
cards in this way?

>from what he writes, we are beginning to suspect that there might have
been a relative in Kudowa, maybe the wife of Herr Polak? We know that
there was a sister even though we do not know her name. The postcards,
in Yiddish (I have translations of these), are linked to >from the same
page. If you recognise anybody in the picture, or know how I might
discover more about the Polaks, please let me know.

Many thanks,

Sue Clamp
Cambridgeshire, UK

Searching: ROSENBERG (Warsaw and Serock), SKOWRONEK, HERSZENKRUG,
CHENCINER, DRUSZN, KRIGSMAN, KRIEGSMAN (Warsaw)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Marriage outside NYC, 1930s -- where to look? #general

Hilary Henkin
 

And I have a problem related to this related problem.

My great-uncle lived in New York City his whole life after
immigrating. Unable to find his record of marriage to his first wife
(circa 1911), I sent in a request for his divorce file, with a
handwritten note that I was hoping to learn the date and place of his
marriage. The clerk wrote back that the file was sealed by law, but
that my great-uncle had married in Philadelphia on a certain date.

He didn't.

I had Philadelphia genners physically go to the indexes without
success, and I have used whatever online resources are
available. Neither he nor his first wife are listed under any name
variation I can think of.

Ah, well.

Hilary Henkin
Los Angeles, California

At 11:49 AM 12/22/2008, Don Solomon wrote:
I have a related problem. I am looking for the marriage record of
two NYC residents who I know were married in the 1930s. I can find
no record of either spouse in the Brides' and Grooms' indexes and
suspect they went out of town to get married without their famlies'
knowledge. Does anyone have any idea if there was a popular
destination for this?

Thanks,
Don
Don Solomon <dsolomon@...>

Marc DVer <mdver@...> wrote:
I have read that people living in Manhattan frequently went to New
Jersey to get divorced as it was easier to do so there than in New York.


Re: Marriage outside NYC, 1930s -- where to look? #general

Hilary Henkin
 

And I have a problem related to this related problem.

My great-uncle lived in New York City his whole life after
immigrating. Unable to find his record of marriage to his first wife
(circa 1911), I sent in a request for his divorce file, with a
handwritten note that I was hoping to learn the date and place of his
marriage. The clerk wrote back that the file was sealed by law, but
that my great-uncle had married in Philadelphia on a certain date.

He didn't.

I had Philadelphia genners physically go to the indexes without
success, and I have used whatever online resources are
available. Neither he nor his first wife are listed under any name
variation I can think of.

Ah, well.

Hilary Henkin
Los Angeles, California

At 11:49 AM 12/22/2008, Don Solomon wrote:
I have a related problem. I am looking for the marriage record of
two NYC residents who I know were married in the 1930s. I can find
no record of either spouse in the Brides' and Grooms' indexes and
suspect they went out of town to get married without their famlies'
knowledge. Does anyone have any idea if there was a popular
destination for this?

Thanks,
Don
Don Solomon <dsolomon@...>

Marc DVer <mdver@...> wrote:
I have read that people living in Manhattan frequently went to New
Jersey to get divorced as it was easier to do so there than in New York.


Seek Henny LORSCH born in 1898 in Ortenberg #germany

LJTRS@...
 

Hello all,
I am hoping that someone can help me find the maiden name of a relative.
Her married name was Henny LORSCH and she was born in 1898 in Ortenberg, Germany.
She married her husband, Bernard LORSCH, born in Leusel, Germany and had a
child, Helmuth, born around 1922 in Ortenberg. My guess is she married
in Ortenberg around 1920 since she was born there and had her child there a
year later. All three family members left Germany in March of 1934 for America.
They eventually settled in Chicago where I think Henny died (I do not know
the death year or exact location) and then her husband, Bernard, remarried
a woman named Margaret.

I would really appreciate any suggestions how to find Henny's maiden name.
I have already searched the Cook County records and found nothing on her. I
looked at the immigration papers but no maiden name mentioned there either.
I might need some help in asking the archives for Ortenberg. Does anyone
know which archives would have Ortenberg records? Thanks again.

Rishy Savin Aventura, FL LJTRS@...


German SIG #Germany Seek Henny LORSCH born in 1898 in Ortenberg #germany

LJTRS@...
 

Hello all,
I am hoping that someone can help me find the maiden name of a relative.
Her married name was Henny LORSCH and she was born in 1898 in Ortenberg, Germany.
She married her husband, Bernard LORSCH, born in Leusel, Germany and had a
child, Helmuth, born around 1922 in Ortenberg. My guess is she married
in Ortenberg around 1920 since she was born there and had her child there a
year later. All three family members left Germany in March of 1934 for America.
They eventually settled in Chicago where I think Henny died (I do not know
the death year or exact location) and then her husband, Bernard, remarried
a woman named Margaret.

I would really appreciate any suggestions how to find Henny's maiden name.
I have already searched the Cook County records and found nothing on her. I
looked at the immigration papers but no maiden name mentioned there either.
I might need some help in asking the archives for Ortenberg. Does anyone
know which archives would have Ortenberg records? Thanks again.

Rishy Savin Aventura, FL LJTRS@...


Seek burial site for Emil POHL d. Berlin, Sept. 29, 1942 #germany

Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Hi list,
I am trying to find out where Emil POHL (born Prague Sept. 6, 1870)
might be buried. He died in the Jewish Hospital in Berlin Sept. 29,
1942. He is not buried on the Berlin Weissensee Cemetery. The Jewish Comunity
Berlin had no further information for me. Where might Emil POHL be buried?

Thank you Peter Zimmer Muenster, Germany


German SIG #Germany Seek burial site for Emil POHL d. Berlin, Sept. 29, 1942 #germany

Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Hi list,
I am trying to find out where Emil POHL (born Prague Sept. 6, 1870)
might be buried. He died in the Jewish Hospital in Berlin Sept. 29,
1942. He is not buried on the Berlin Weissensee Cemetery. The Jewish Comunity
Berlin had no further information for me. Where might Emil POHL be buried?

Thank you Peter Zimmer Muenster, Germany


Re: ETTINGHAUSEN family and Aschaffenburg presentation: Thank you #germany

Otto Schiff <oschiff@...>
 

I would like to to say thank you to all the members who have responded
to my requests regarding the ETTINGHAUSENs. Their help was extremely useful.

I would like to express my thanks and admiration to Werner Hirsch on his
description and movie about the reunion in Aschaffenburg.
It so happens that my grandparents lived in Aschaffenburg and my mother
and her sibling were born there. I used to visit there and remember the
Synagogue real well.

My uncle Otto STERN (after whom I am named) fell in the first world war
and his name is on the memorial to Jewish solders in Aschaffenburg.
Gersig is a great program and I am a dilliigend reader.

Otto Schiff Carmel, CA oschiff@...


German SIG #Germany Re: ETTINGHAUSEN family and Aschaffenburg presentation: Thank you #germany

Otto Schiff <oschiff@...>
 

I would like to to say thank you to all the members who have responded
to my requests regarding the ETTINGHAUSENs. Their help was extremely useful.

I would like to express my thanks and admiration to Werner Hirsch on his
description and movie about the reunion in Aschaffenburg.
It so happens that my grandparents lived in Aschaffenburg and my mother
and her sibling were born there. I used to visit there and remember the
Synagogue real well.

My uncle Otto STERN (after whom I am named) fell in the first world war
and his name is on the memorial to Jewish solders in Aschaffenburg.
Gersig is a great program and I am a dilliigend reader.

Otto Schiff Carmel, CA oschiff@...


Tombstone maker, Southern New Jersey, 1891 #general

Steve Pickoltz
 

I'm trying to find the name of a Tombstone company, that would have
made stones for the Jewish community in and around the Alliance
cemetery in 1891. Alliance cemetery is located in Pittsgrove,
Salem county, New Jersey. This company or another may have taken
them over and are still in existence. By finding out who made the
stone, I am hoping to learn who ordered it, there connection to the
deceased, and who know what else those records can tell. Just for
the record, there are *no* cemetery, Temple, Township, nor State
death records for this person Iam searching for. All I know is it
is my great grandmother-- Sara PICKHOLTZ, and she is buried at
Alliance and I have been to her grave.

Steve Pickholtz
New Jersey

searching-- PICKHOLTZ (all spellings), WINITSKY (all spellings) and
KLEIN?KLINE (of the Phila., Pa. Northeast JCC).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tombstone maker, Southern New Jersey, 1891 #general

Steve Pickoltz
 

I'm trying to find the name of a Tombstone company, that would have
made stones for the Jewish community in and around the Alliance
cemetery in 1891. Alliance cemetery is located in Pittsgrove,
Salem county, New Jersey. This company or another may have taken
them over and are still in existence. By finding out who made the
stone, I am hoping to learn who ordered it, there connection to the
deceased, and who know what else those records can tell. Just for
the record, there are *no* cemetery, Temple, Township, nor State
death records for this person Iam searching for. All I know is it
is my great grandmother-- Sara PICKHOLTZ, and she is buried at
Alliance and I have been to her grave.

Steve Pickholtz
New Jersey

searching-- PICKHOLTZ (all spellings), WINITSKY (all spellings) and
KLEIN?KLINE (of the Phila., Pa. Northeast JCC).


Re: Marriage outside NYC, 1930s -- where to look? #general

Don Solomon
 

Apart >from garden-variety suggestions (e.g., get correct maiden name
from SS-5, passenger list, etc.; get vital records clerk to review
all licenses for the week of the supposed marriage), it occurs to me
that Pennsylvania at one time (and perhaps still) recognized
common-law marriages. Perhaps Uncle made up an approximate date and
the court let it go at that.

Don

At 6:51 AM -0800 12/23/2008, hilary@... wrote:
And I have a problem related to this related problem.

My great-uncle lived in New York City his whole life after
immigrating. Unable to find his record of marriage to his first
wife (circa 1911), I sent in a request for his divorce file, with a
handwritten note that I was hoping to learn the date and place of
his marriage. The clerk wrote back that the file was sealed by law,
but that my great-uncle had married in Philadelphia on a certain
date.

He didn't.

I had Philadelphia genners physically go to the indexes without
success, and I have used whatever online resources are available.
Neither he nor his first wife are listed under any name variation I
can think of.
--
Don Solomon <dsolomon@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Marriage outside NYC, 1930s -- where to look? #general

Don Solomon
 

Apart >from garden-variety suggestions (e.g., get correct maiden name
from SS-5, passenger list, etc.; get vital records clerk to review
all licenses for the week of the supposed marriage), it occurs to me
that Pennsylvania at one time (and perhaps still) recognized
common-law marriages. Perhaps Uncle made up an approximate date and
the court let it go at that.

Don

At 6:51 AM -0800 12/23/2008, hilary@... wrote:
And I have a problem related to this related problem.

My great-uncle lived in New York City his whole life after
immigrating. Unable to find his record of marriage to his first
wife (circa 1911), I sent in a request for his divorce file, with a
handwritten note that I was hoping to learn the date and place of
his marriage. The clerk wrote back that the file was sealed by law,
but that my great-uncle had married in Philadelphia on a certain
date.

He didn't.

I had Philadelphia genners physically go to the indexes without
success, and I have used whatever online resources are available.
Neither he nor his first wife are listed under any name variation I
can think of.
--
Don Solomon <dsolomon@...>


Contact information for Rabbi Bernard GOLDSMITH, San Diego area #general

Joan Rosen <jgrosen@...>
 

Can anyone help me obtain an email or postal address for Rabbi Bernard
GOLDSMITH who may live in the San Diego area? He may be a relative..
Thank you.

Joan
Joan Rosen
jgrosen@...
Elkins Park, PA, outside Philadelphia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Contact information for Rabbi Bernard GOLDSMITH, San Diego area #general

Joan Rosen <jgrosen@...>
 

Can anyone help me obtain an email or postal address for Rabbi Bernard
GOLDSMITH who may live in the San Diego area? He may be a relative..
Thank you.

Joan
Joan Rosen
jgrosen@...
Elkins Park, PA, outside Philadelphia


Searching Anna SILBERSPITZ nee NUSSBAUM of Brooklyn #general

Nancy & Randy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Dear Genners, I have tried to contact by mail and telephone the Holocaust
survivor Anna SILBERSPITZ nee NUSSBAUM of Brooklyn, New York, and also her
family members (Arthur S. of New Jersey, etc.) scattered throughout the USA.
My last contact with her on the phone was December 2006. Does anyone in
Brooklyn know of her? Her husband Ignacy SILBERSPITZ z"l was one of the
Schindler survivors.

Thank you!

Chag Chanukah Sameach,
Nancy Fox
Franklin, Tennessee, USA
<jessefox7@...>
Searching: SILBERSPITZ, ZIMMERSPITZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Anna SILBERSPITZ nee NUSSBAUM of Brooklyn #general

Nancy & Randy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Dear Genners, I have tried to contact by mail and telephone the Holocaust
survivor Anna SILBERSPITZ nee NUSSBAUM of Brooklyn, New York, and also her
family members (Arthur S. of New Jersey, etc.) scattered throughout the USA.
My last contact with her on the phone was December 2006. Does anyone in
Brooklyn know of her? Her husband Ignacy SILBERSPITZ z"l was one of the
Schindler survivors.

Thank you!

Chag Chanukah Sameach,
Nancy Fox
Franklin, Tennessee, USA
<jessefox7@...>
Searching: SILBERSPITZ, ZIMMERSPITZ


why go to Bad Kudowa? #general

Barbara Zimmer
 

Bad Kudowa was a well-known spa, where people would "take the waters"
so it could make sense for someone to go there for a rest cure. Or
the photo seems to show such a large intergenerational group that I
wonder if the reason for going was a family reunion.

Barbara Zimmer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen why go to Bad Kudowa? #general

Barbara Zimmer
 

Bad Kudowa was a well-known spa, where people would "take the waters"
so it could make sense for someone to go there for a rest cure. Or
the photo seems to show such a large intergenerational group that I
wonder if the reason for going was a family reunion.

Barbara Zimmer