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MOSS, MOSKOWITZ family from Homestead Pennsylvania #subcarpathia

ssroth@...
 

Hi all,
If any of this sounds familiar to anybody please email me.
I am looking for descendants of the family of Henry and Hannah MOSKOWITZ
(MOSS) >from Homestead, Pennsylvania. Henry died on April 7, 1912 and is
buried in West Mifflin, Pennsylvania.
Henry immigrated >from Hungary in 1887. >from the 1900 and 1910 census I have
that his children were:
Leo (Louis)
Morris
Rose
Ester
Marc (Max)
Joseph

Thanks for anything you can tell me,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA


Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia MOSS, MOSKOWITZ family from Homestead Pennsylvania #subcarpathia

ssroth@...
 

Hi all,
If any of this sounds familiar to anybody please email me.
I am looking for descendants of the family of Henry and Hannah MOSKOWITZ
(MOSS) >from Homestead, Pennsylvania. Henry died on April 7, 1912 and is
buried in West Mifflin, Pennsylvania.
Henry immigrated >from Hungary in 1887. >from the 1900 and 1910 census I have
that his children were:
Leo (Louis)
Morris
Rose
Ester
Marc (Max)
Joseph

Thanks for anything you can tell me,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA


Re: Turjajog, Kenngacy #subcarpathia

Vivian Kahn
 

Jeff,

What was the specific document you found that included the reference
to Kenngacy? When was it created? Was the word hand-written?

Nagyturjaszog (with an umlaut over the o) was the name of a place in
the Perecsenyi district of Ung megye. Nagyturicza was a previous
name. When the area was given back to Hungary in the Vienna Award the
name reverted to Nagyturica. It's now Turicski, Ukraine, which is
probably pronounced like Turitza. Also spelled Turytsia.

Possible that the word that looked like Kenngacy was a corrupted
version of Perecsenyi. Possible that the "P" looked like "K" and
letter "r " is often mistaken for "n"

Janos Bogardi has a posted several messages >from individuals
researching this place. You can find them at http://www.radixforum.com/places/turytsia/

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

On Aug 27, 2011, at 6:32 AM, Jeff Malka wrote:

Some of my wife's ancestors were Riederman who at the end of the
19th century lived in the village of Nagy-Turjaszog, sometimes
written just Turjajog. I have visited the village. Its modern name
is Turitza and it is in the Ung region of the Carpathian mountains
of the western Ukraine, not far >from Perecin. At the time they lived
there, Turjajog was still in Hungary.

I also found a possibly related person bearing the same surname,
also listed as Hungarian Jewish, coming >from Turjajog, Kenngacy. Has
anyone come across "Kenngacy" or know what it might refer to?

Thank you.

Jeff Malka
Researching: RIEDERMAN (Ung province, Serednye), ORNSTEIN
(Serednye), GELFAND (Cherven, Belarus)

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Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Re: Turjajog, Kenngacy #subcarpathia

Vivian Kahn
 

Jeff,

What was the specific document you found that included the reference
to Kenngacy? When was it created? Was the word hand-written?

Nagyturjaszog (with an umlaut over the o) was the name of a place in
the Perecsenyi district of Ung megye. Nagyturicza was a previous
name. When the area was given back to Hungary in the Vienna Award the
name reverted to Nagyturica. It's now Turicski, Ukraine, which is
probably pronounced like Turitza. Also spelled Turytsia.

Possible that the word that looked like Kenngacy was a corrupted
version of Perecsenyi. Possible that the "P" looked like "K" and
letter "r " is often mistaken for "n"

Janos Bogardi has a posted several messages >from individuals
researching this place. You can find them at http://www.radixforum.com/places/turytsia/

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

On Aug 27, 2011, at 6:32 AM, Jeff Malka wrote:

Some of my wife's ancestors were Riederman who at the end of the
19th century lived in the village of Nagy-Turjaszog, sometimes
written just Turjajog. I have visited the village. Its modern name
is Turitza and it is in the Ung region of the Carpathian mountains
of the western Ukraine, not far >from Perecin. At the time they lived
there, Turjajog was still in Hungary.

I also found a possibly related person bearing the same surname,
also listed as Hungarian Jewish, coming >from Turjajog, Kenngacy. Has
anyone come across "Kenngacy" or know what it might refer to?

Thank you.

Jeff Malka
Researching: RIEDERMAN (Ung province, Serednye), ORNSTEIN
(Serednye), GELFAND (Cherven, Belarus)

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Collection of Books and Memoirs - Genealogy #germany

Gunther Steinberg <beagun27@...>
 

In the course of researching my ancestors and compiling a book about
the families of my parents and grandparents, as well as adding my own
memoirs, I have collected a number of books that may contain items
of interest to others. I am willing to check for information and in some
cases loan out an item for a month at a time (cost: for postage only).

* The first group will eventually be
offered/sent to the Leo Baeck Institute, NY or the Jewish Museum Berlin.
* Those they selected [-*] of the second
group will eventually go to the Judaica Library at Stanford University

==========================
Genealogy and Memoir Books -

1. The Hallos and the Rubensons by Gertrude Rubensohn Hallo
2. Family Relationships- Erwin Adler (Seattle)
to Zeev(Seev) Steinberg (in Israel)
3. The Neuberg - Aaron Family Chronicles
4. My Family and My Life - Family Chronicles - Gunther Steinberg
5. My Family History - by Klaus Oliven
(Brazil) [ Descendants of Ephraim Meyer, Hannover]
6. The Spiegelbergs - >from Hannover to Cheshire - William Spiegelberg
7. Chronicle of the Schuster Family - by Ernst Schuster
8. Zeev Steinberg - Genealogy of his Family
9. [Michael Rowe - Genealogy papers ] -private
10. Bleicherode Book by Dirk Schmidt
11. Geschichte der Alpener Juden (Peter Schmitter, Alpen)
12. Meyerhof (Hildesheim) - Family Tree by Otto Meyerhof (1931) plus
additions
13. Memoirs of Laura Falk nee DUX (Copy of original German and Translation)
14. Descendants of Wolf DUX and Henriette Ellrodt
(compiled by my cousin Charles Regan)
15. Isaak Kaufmann's Mohel Book - (>from "Carpena Judaica" by Gerd Friedt)
16. Lebenserinnerungen von Julius Kohsen
(Grandfather - Copy of original German)
[Translation included in {4} above]
17. Diary of Resi Regensburger nee Oppenheimer (First cousin, once removed)

====================================================
Books and Booklets on Genealogy and Related History

- "Insel der Geborgenheit - Kaliski
Schule..l" by Busemann, Daxner and Foelling
- "Zwischen deutscher und juedischer
Identitaet (Kaliski School students) by Werner Foelling
- Berlin - Hauptstadt fuer Deutschland (Dokumenation Berlin)
- ">from Berlin to New York " (Carl Neuberg,
Biochem Nobelist) by B.Lohff and H. Conrads
- "Stories of an Exhibition" (Jewish Museum Berlin)
- "The Warburgs" by Ron Chernow
- "M. Kempinski & Co." by Elfi Pracht
- "Juden in Geseke - Dokumentation der Friedhoefe und Geschichte
der Familien by Arbeitskreis: Jued.. Familien in Geseke
- "Family Portrait - History and Genealogy of
Gottschalk, Molling and Benjamin Families
>from Hannover, Germany" by Thomas Krakauer
- "My Family and My Life and Family Chronology " by Gunther Steinberg
- "The Memoirs of Glueckel fo Hameln" (Translated) by M. Lowenthal
- "Nazis, Women and Molecular Biology - Memoirs
of a Lucky Self-Hater" by Gunther Stent
- Fragen an die Deutsche Gechichte - Historical
Exhibition in the Berlin Reichstag Catalogue, 4th Edition
-* Reichsfuehrer durch das Juedische Deutschland by P. Hirsch & B.A. Lopez
-* Berliner Rathaus by R. Melzer
-* "..auf freiem Platze als freier Tempel befreiter Brueder"
- Aspekte juedischen Lebens in Hildesheim 1848-1938
-* Hildesheim 5/95 (Brochure)
-* Heinrich Stahl (1868-1942) [ a talk by Hermann Simon 4 November 1993]
- "Carpena Judaica" - Geschichte der Kerpener
Juden seit dem Mittelalter" by Gerd Friedt
- "Ich habe Koeln doch so geliebt -
Lebensgschichte juedischer Koelnerinnen und Koelner by Barbara Becker-Jakli
- "Hitler's Willing Executioners - Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust
by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen
- "The Warsaw Ghetto - A Photographic Record 1941-1944 by Joel J. Heydecker
-* "Die Brennende Stadt 27.3.1945 (Paderborn) byHermann Biekr
-* "Von ihren Leuten wohnt hier keener mehr" - Jueische Familien Paderborn in
der Ziet des Nazionalsocialismus by Margit Naarmann
- "Die Paderborner Juden 1802-1945" by Margit Naarman
-* 150 Jahre Harmonie-Gesellschaft Paderborn - 1828 - 1978
- Aus Geschichte und Leben der Juden in Westfalen - by Hans Ch. Meyer
-* plus 11 Misc. Books and booklets about Paderborn (in German)

Gunther Steinberg, Portola Valley CA 94028 beagun27@comcast.net


German SIG #Germany Collection of Books and Memoirs - Genealogy #germany

Gunther Steinberg <beagun27@...>
 

In the course of researching my ancestors and compiling a book about
the families of my parents and grandparents, as well as adding my own
memoirs, I have collected a number of books that may contain items
of interest to others. I am willing to check for information and in some
cases loan out an item for a month at a time (cost: for postage only).

* The first group will eventually be
offered/sent to the Leo Baeck Institute, NY or the Jewish Museum Berlin.
* Those they selected [-*] of the second
group will eventually go to the Judaica Library at Stanford University

==========================
Genealogy and Memoir Books -

1. The Hallos and the Rubensons by Gertrude Rubensohn Hallo
2. Family Relationships- Erwin Adler (Seattle)
to Zeev(Seev) Steinberg (in Israel)
3. The Neuberg - Aaron Family Chronicles
4. My Family and My Life - Family Chronicles - Gunther Steinberg
5. My Family History - by Klaus Oliven
(Brazil) [ Descendants of Ephraim Meyer, Hannover]
6. The Spiegelbergs - >from Hannover to Cheshire - William Spiegelberg
7. Chronicle of the Schuster Family - by Ernst Schuster
8. Zeev Steinberg - Genealogy of his Family
9. [Michael Rowe - Genealogy papers ] -private
10. Bleicherode Book by Dirk Schmidt
11. Geschichte der Alpener Juden (Peter Schmitter, Alpen)
12. Meyerhof (Hildesheim) - Family Tree by Otto Meyerhof (1931) plus
additions
13. Memoirs of Laura Falk nee DUX (Copy of original German and Translation)
14. Descendants of Wolf DUX and Henriette Ellrodt
(compiled by my cousin Charles Regan)
15. Isaak Kaufmann's Mohel Book - (>from "Carpena Judaica" by Gerd Friedt)
16. Lebenserinnerungen von Julius Kohsen
(Grandfather - Copy of original German)
[Translation included in {4} above]
17. Diary of Resi Regensburger nee Oppenheimer (First cousin, once removed)

====================================================
Books and Booklets on Genealogy and Related History

- "Insel der Geborgenheit - Kaliski
Schule..l" by Busemann, Daxner and Foelling
- "Zwischen deutscher und juedischer
Identitaet (Kaliski School students) by Werner Foelling
- Berlin - Hauptstadt fuer Deutschland (Dokumenation Berlin)
- ">from Berlin to New York " (Carl Neuberg,
Biochem Nobelist) by B.Lohff and H. Conrads
- "Stories of an Exhibition" (Jewish Museum Berlin)
- "The Warburgs" by Ron Chernow
- "M. Kempinski & Co." by Elfi Pracht
- "Juden in Geseke - Dokumentation der Friedhoefe und Geschichte
der Familien by Arbeitskreis: Jued.. Familien in Geseke
- "Family Portrait - History and Genealogy of
Gottschalk, Molling and Benjamin Families
>from Hannover, Germany" by Thomas Krakauer
- "My Family and My Life and Family Chronology " by Gunther Steinberg
- "The Memoirs of Glueckel fo Hameln" (Translated) by M. Lowenthal
- "Nazis, Women and Molecular Biology - Memoirs
of a Lucky Self-Hater" by Gunther Stent
- Fragen an die Deutsche Gechichte - Historical
Exhibition in the Berlin Reichstag Catalogue, 4th Edition
-* Reichsfuehrer durch das Juedische Deutschland by P. Hirsch & B.A. Lopez
-* Berliner Rathaus by R. Melzer
-* "..auf freiem Platze als freier Tempel befreiter Brueder"
- Aspekte juedischen Lebens in Hildesheim 1848-1938
-* Hildesheim 5/95 (Brochure)
-* Heinrich Stahl (1868-1942) [ a talk by Hermann Simon 4 November 1993]
- "Carpena Judaica" - Geschichte der Kerpener
Juden seit dem Mittelalter" by Gerd Friedt
- "Ich habe Koeln doch so geliebt -
Lebensgschichte juedischer Koelnerinnen und Koelner by Barbara Becker-Jakli
- "Hitler's Willing Executioners - Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust
by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen
- "The Warsaw Ghetto - A Photographic Record 1941-1944 by Joel J. Heydecker
-* "Die Brennende Stadt 27.3.1945 (Paderborn) byHermann Biekr
-* "Von ihren Leuten wohnt hier keener mehr" - Jueische Familien Paderborn in
der Ziet des Nazionalsocialismus by Margit Naarmann
- "Die Paderborner Juden 1802-1945" by Margit Naarman
-* 150 Jahre Harmonie-Gesellschaft Paderborn - 1828 - 1978
- Aus Geschichte und Leben der Juden in Westfalen - by Hans Ch. Meyer
-* plus 11 Misc. Books and booklets about Paderborn (in German)

Gunther Steinberg, Portola Valley CA 94028 beagun27@comcast.net


WEXLER, SLOTNICK, seeking descendants of #general

bik <kooshb9341@...>
 

Seeking descendants of...

WEXLER Max, b. Turkey/Palestine 1880, spouse *Bessie nee SIMONSON.
Their children: Mayer, Gertrude, Max.

SLOTNICK Frank, b. Minsk, abt. 1880, spouse *Sarah nee SIMONSON.
Their children: Abraham, Julius (Dora), Shirley.

Resided Fallsburg NY, Brooklyn NY and ?

[*sisters]

Bernard I. Kouchel
kooshb9341@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WEXLER, SLOTNICK, seeking descendants of #general

bik <kooshb9341@...>
 

Seeking descendants of...

WEXLER Max, b. Turkey/Palestine 1880, spouse *Bessie nee SIMONSON.
Their children: Mayer, Gertrude, Max.

SLOTNICK Frank, b. Minsk, abt. 1880, spouse *Sarah nee SIMONSON.
Their children: Abraham, Julius (Dora), Shirley.

Resided Fallsburg NY, Brooklyn NY and ?

[*sisters]

Bernard I. Kouchel
kooshb9341@bellsouth.net


Re: NYC Municipal Archives Request (Delman-Ginandes Marriage License) #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 8/27/2011 11:45:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
sallybruc@yahoo.com writes:
I looked at the Italiangen.org site too, when the original query was made,

Prior to 1908 the Index was separated by borough but >from 1908 to 1937 is
in a single index for all of New York City.

The ItalianGen site covers Manhattan and Brooklyn prior to 1908 and All New
York City >from 1908 to 1937.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Municipal Archives Request (Delman-Ginandes Marriage License) #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 8/27/2011 11:45:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
sallybruc@yahoo.com writes:
I looked at the Italiangen.org site too, when the original query was made,

Prior to 1908 the Index was separated by borough but >from 1908 to 1937 is
in a single index for all of New York City.

The ItalianGen site covers Manhattan and Brooklyn prior to 1908 and All New
York City >from 1908 to 1937.

Allan Jordan


Re: NYC Municipal Archives request: Ginandes'/Genandes Marriage to DELMAN #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 8/26/2011 9:43:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
james.castellan@gmail.com writes:
You can search the NY Municipal Archive's most now public marriages and
deaths indexes online thanks to the hard work of the NY area Italian and
German genealogy groups: ....You can order a copy of the marriage
certificate >from the NY Municipal archives. It might confirm it's a second
marriage for Harry.


A few points everyone should keep in mind on the question of New York City
marriage records.

A few replies said maybe the marriage was outside New York City ... always
a good point to consider. Marriages often took place where the bride was
from and it was not uncommon for people >from New York to marry in New
Jersey or New Jersey people to marry in New York.

Within New York, first off while the online indexes are great they are not
absolute. Errors always creep into anything so no denigration on the
work done by those groups.

The Municipal Archives (and the Family History Centers) also have the paper
copies of the indexes which some time frames have both groom and bride and
other years only groom indexes.

All of these records though are the Department of Health records and only
open through 1937.

Also for copies a lot of people have mentioned that you can mail order via
the Family History Centers and off the LDS website I believe. They are
less expensive because they are not certificated copies but generally work
just fine for genealogy purposes.

There's a second source as well called the City Clerk's records and the
Municipal Archives has them >from 1909-1929. They are only on microfilm and
the indexes are harder because they are handwritten which can be difficult to
read and they are sorted by month and year and the first letters of the
surname. Their is a separate section for brides and grooms. While it was
more common to have the Department of Heart records the City Clerk was a
second option and in some cases records exist at both the Clerk's files and the
Department of Health certificate. (There are articles about all of this
on JewishGen.)

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Municipal Archives request: Ginandes'/Genandes Marriage to DELMAN #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 8/26/2011 9:43:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
james.castellan@gmail.com writes:
You can search the NY Municipal Archive's most now public marriages and
deaths indexes online thanks to the hard work of the NY area Italian and
German genealogy groups: ....You can order a copy of the marriage
certificate >from the NY Municipal archives. It might confirm it's a second
marriage for Harry.


A few points everyone should keep in mind on the question of New York City
marriage records.

A few replies said maybe the marriage was outside New York City ... always
a good point to consider. Marriages often took place where the bride was
from and it was not uncommon for people >from New York to marry in New
Jersey or New Jersey people to marry in New York.

Within New York, first off while the online indexes are great they are not
absolute. Errors always creep into anything so no denigration on the
work done by those groups.

The Municipal Archives (and the Family History Centers) also have the paper
copies of the indexes which some time frames have both groom and bride and
other years only groom indexes.

All of these records though are the Department of Health records and only
open through 1937.

Also for copies a lot of people have mentioned that you can mail order via
the Family History Centers and off the LDS website I believe. They are
less expensive because they are not certificated copies but generally work
just fine for genealogy purposes.

There's a second source as well called the City Clerk's records and the
Municipal Archives has them >from 1909-1929. They are only on microfilm and
the indexes are harder because they are handwritten which can be difficult to
read and they are sorted by month and year and the first letters of the
surname. Their is a separate section for brides and grooms. While it was
more common to have the Department of Heart records the City Clerk was a
second option and in some cases records exist at both the Clerk's files and the
Department of Health certificate. (There are articles about all of this
on JewishGen.)

Allan Jordan


Cross-border money transfer #general

Shaul Sharoni
 

Dear All,

Following the recent thread re wiring funds to archives in Europe, I would
like to note that according to EU regulations, all cross-border money
transfers within the EU, denomintaed in Euros, are free of any charge.

Best Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cross-border money transfer #general

Shaul Sharoni
 

Dear All,

Following the recent thread re wiring funds to archives in Europe, I would
like to note that according to EU regulations, all cross-border money
transfers within the EU, denomintaed in Euros, are free of any charge.

Best Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


New book #hungary

andrew-s@...
 

Apropos Gabor Hirsch's new book about Bekescsaba, I should bring to the
group's attention my own recent book (in English) about my research and
findings of my family, covering the last 200 years or so. This branch
originated in Moravia, moved to the Nyitra area in what is now Slovakia,
later to Rimaszombat (Rimavska Svobota) and eventually to Budapest. Another
branch came >from the Szeged and Bekes area. I think the book covers a
significant portion of the history of at least one half (the western origin)
of Hungarian Jewry. Its title is "Conversations with my Ancestors",
published by Gefen, available in Jewish bookstores, as well as through
Amazon and Barnes and Noble. I have, just last week, written a brief "coda"
to the book, entitled "A Gravestone in Kiev", available at the website
http://forced-labour.blogspot.com/2011/08/gravestone-in-kiev. I also have
information about Hungarian forced laborers buried in a Kiev cemetery; for
details about that subject, contact me off-list.

Andrew Sanders

Moderator: This is a one-time announcement of a product for sale. Please continue discussion w. Andrew
off-list if you have questions.


Hungary SIG #Hungary New book #hungary

andrew-s@...
 

Apropos Gabor Hirsch's new book about Bekescsaba, I should bring to the
group's attention my own recent book (in English) about my research and
findings of my family, covering the last 200 years or so. This branch
originated in Moravia, moved to the Nyitra area in what is now Slovakia,
later to Rimaszombat (Rimavska Svobota) and eventually to Budapest. Another
branch came >from the Szeged and Bekes area. I think the book covers a
significant portion of the history of at least one half (the western origin)
of Hungarian Jewry. Its title is "Conversations with my Ancestors",
published by Gefen, available in Jewish bookstores, as well as through
Amazon and Barnes and Noble. I have, just last week, written a brief "coda"
to the book, entitled "A Gravestone in Kiev", available at the website
http://forced-labour.blogspot.com/2011/08/gravestone-in-kiev. I also have
information about Hungarian forced laborers buried in a Kiev cemetery; for
details about that subject, contact me off-list.

Andrew Sanders

Moderator: This is a one-time announcement of a product for sale. Please continue discussion w. Andrew
off-list if you have questions.


Geographical changes in Jewish population in rural settlements in Szolnok-Doboka county between 1891 - 1930 #hungary

irisgr@...
 

Subject: Geographical changes in Jewish population in rural settlements in
Szolnok-Doboka county between 1891 - 1930
From: irisgr@smile.net.il

Dear friends,
In the Yiskor book of Dej I find statistical information about the size of
Jewish population in 304 settlements in Szolnok-Doboka county around Dej for
the years 1857 - 1946. (pp 178 - 186).
There are a few interesting points I don't know to explain:
1. There is a great fall in numbers , sometimes even disappearing, of Jews
in the villages between 1891-1930. Only in 38 out of 304 settlements there
is still Jewish population living in 1930 ,but in much less numbers.
2. There is a significant growth in numbers of Jews in the greater towns and
cities: Nagyilonda grew in 280%, Dej in 300%, Magyarlapos in 61% ,
Szamosujvar in 500%.
3. The whole county,also, lost nearly third of its jewish population >from
9579 in 1891 to 6924 in 1930.
I read in some place that till the end of the 19th centuary Jews were not
aloud to settle in cities ( in Dej for example), Is there any connection to
this great immigration >from rural Szolnok-Doboka to the urban settlements at
the beginning of the 20th century? Or maybe its all because of lack of
Data?
Is there any book or article that I can read about these demographic changes
of the period ?

Dr. Iris Graicer,
Ramat-Gan, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Geographical changes in Jewish population in rural settlements in Szolnok-Doboka county between 1891 - 1930 #hungary

irisgr@...
 

Subject: Geographical changes in Jewish population in rural settlements in
Szolnok-Doboka county between 1891 - 1930
From: irisgr@smile.net.il

Dear friends,
In the Yiskor book of Dej I find statistical information about the size of
Jewish population in 304 settlements in Szolnok-Doboka county around Dej for
the years 1857 - 1946. (pp 178 - 186).
There are a few interesting points I don't know to explain:
1. There is a great fall in numbers , sometimes even disappearing, of Jews
in the villages between 1891-1930. Only in 38 out of 304 settlements there
is still Jewish population living in 1930 ,but in much less numbers.
2. There is a significant growth in numbers of Jews in the greater towns and
cities: Nagyilonda grew in 280%, Dej in 300%, Magyarlapos in 61% ,
Szamosujvar in 500%.
3. The whole county,also, lost nearly third of its jewish population >from
9579 in 1891 to 6924 in 1930.
I read in some place that till the end of the 19th centuary Jews were not
aloud to settle in cities ( in Dej for example), Is there any connection to
this great immigration >from rural Szolnok-Doboka to the urban settlements at
the beginning of the 20th century? Or maybe its all because of lack of
Data?
Is there any book or article that I can read about these demographic changes
of the period ?

Dr. Iris Graicer,
Ramat-Gan, Israel


Re: Szterkocz, Sztankocz -- same town or different? #hungary

steinsteve@...
 

Liz,

I agree with Vivian. My DAVIDOWICZ family came >from Sterkocz, I've seen =
the
film >from 1869. There were about 4 Jewish families. The town was so =
small
that it was absorbed by the neighboring town, Csabal=F3cz, which is why =
you'll
have difficulty finding it, but check out
http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/settlements/SL_sterkovce.htm. The =
current
names are Sterkovce and Cabalovce, respectively. They are very close to
Medzilaborce. If you're looking at another town with any number of Jews,
this is not it.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Szterkocz, Sztankocz -- same town or different? #hungary

steinsteve@...
 

Liz,

I agree with Vivian. My DAVIDOWICZ family came >from Sterkocz, I've seen =
the
film >from 1869. There were about 4 Jewish families. The town was so =
small
that it was absorbed by the neighboring town, Csabal=F3cz, which is why =
you'll
have difficulty finding it, but check out
http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/settlements/SL_sterkovce.htm. The =
current
names are Sterkovce and Cabalovce, respectively. They are very close to
Medzilaborce. If you're looking at another town with any number of Jews,
this is not it.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ

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