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Obtaining Israeli death certificates #general

apollo <apollo@...>
 

Clive CALLMAN asks how to go about obtaining a death certificate or other
information about his grandmother, who died in Israel around 1940 and was
buried at the Mount of Olives cemetery. The answer may be relevant to other
JewishGenners, so I'm posting publicly.

Firstly, there is an online guide to the Mount of Olives cemetery at:
http://www.mountofolives.co.il.

Secondly, anyone can order a death certificate (or birth certificate or
certain other certificates) >from the Population Registry section of the
Israeli Ministry of the Interior online at:

http://www.piba.gov.il/SUBJECT/REGISTRYANDPASSPORTS/DIFFERENTCERTIFICATE/Pages/TeudatPtira.aspx
http://tinyurl.com/6n2u5nj [MOD]
Please note that the website is in Hebrew so if you can't read the language
you'll need the help of someone who can. If you can manage that, it's quite
straightforward.

Because Clive's grandmother died before Israeli statehood (1948), his
request would likely be referred to the State Archives. I received a death
certificate in this way for a relative who died in Tel Aviv in 1930 without
any problems, but unfortunately the certificate didn't contain the
information I'd been hoping for, namely the names of his parents.

If anyone is interested in ordering documents for a person >from after 1948,
you will most likely need their Israeli ID number to succeed. If you know
where the person is buried you can obtain this >from the Chevra Kadisha
attached to that cemetery. Some of the bigger Chevrot Kadisha have online
databases (I have previously posted a list of them in this discussion
group); for the smaller ones you will have to Google them and find an
address\phone no. and then write to them or call them. However you can still
try your luck even without an ID number.

Hope all the above helps,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.

Researching: BULWAR (Lodz, Krakow); FRENKIEL, FELIPITER (Belz, Krakow);
KALUSZYNER, KUSMIERSKI, (Kaluszyn, Lodz); KUZKA, ASZKIET, RZETELNY, WROBEL
(Kaluszyn); KRYSKA, LICHTENSZTAJN (Sieradz, Lodz); WAKS, BEKER, ENGEL (Nowe
Miasto nad Pilica).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Obtaining Israeli death certificates #general

apollo <apollo@...>
 

Clive CALLMAN asks how to go about obtaining a death certificate or other
information about his grandmother, who died in Israel around 1940 and was
buried at the Mount of Olives cemetery. The answer may be relevant to other
JewishGenners, so I'm posting publicly.

Firstly, there is an online guide to the Mount of Olives cemetery at:
http://www.mountofolives.co.il.

Secondly, anyone can order a death certificate (or birth certificate or
certain other certificates) >from the Population Registry section of the
Israeli Ministry of the Interior online at:

http://www.piba.gov.il/SUBJECT/REGISTRYANDPASSPORTS/DIFFERENTCERTIFICATE/Pages/TeudatPtira.aspx
http://tinyurl.com/6n2u5nj [MOD]
Please note that the website is in Hebrew so if you can't read the language
you'll need the help of someone who can. If you can manage that, it's quite
straightforward.

Because Clive's grandmother died before Israeli statehood (1948), his
request would likely be referred to the State Archives. I received a death
certificate in this way for a relative who died in Tel Aviv in 1930 without
any problems, but unfortunately the certificate didn't contain the
information I'd been hoping for, namely the names of his parents.

If anyone is interested in ordering documents for a person >from after 1948,
you will most likely need their Israeli ID number to succeed. If you know
where the person is buried you can obtain this >from the Chevra Kadisha
attached to that cemetery. Some of the bigger Chevrot Kadisha have online
databases (I have previously posted a list of them in this discussion
group); for the smaller ones you will have to Google them and find an
address\phone no. and then write to them or call them. However you can still
try your luck even without an ID number.

Hope all the above helps,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.

Researching: BULWAR (Lodz, Krakow); FRENKIEL, FELIPITER (Belz, Krakow);
KALUSZYNER, KUSMIERSKI, (Kaluszyn, Lodz); KUZKA, ASZKIET, RZETELNY, WROBEL
(Kaluszyn); KRYSKA, LICHTENSZTAJN (Sieradz, Lodz); WAKS, BEKER, ENGEL (Nowe
Miasto nad Pilica).


INTRO Looking for leads to family of Gustav Edward Walter KOCH/Clara Hedwig Freida SCHULZ #germany

T <teezr1@...>
 

I am looking to track down any information about my gr-grandfather,
gr-grandmother and family in Germany. I have no idea if he was Jewish
or not, I do know he was German by birth. I believe she was Jewish but
have yet to find proof. =I *finally* tracked down his US Immigration
paperwork, so I have some data, but it is mostly handwritten and badly
scanned >from early in the 1900's.

his name: Gustav Edward Walter KOCH born: 23 April 1881, Wittenberge,
Germany, according to the immigration paperwork.

Gustav married Clara Hedwig Freida SCHULZ born: 03 Dec 1883 in either
Posen, Prussia, or Schwerin, Germany (immigration papers say Germany,
US Census says Posen, my grandmother said Poland). Somewhere in
Clara's family line is a Dumbrowski or Dombrowski and a Polish
connection--according to my grandmother.

I know Gustav and Clara married sometime in 1905, I believe late in
1905, somewhere in Germany.

They had two children, Hedwig Freida in 1906 in Cuxhaven, Germany and
Harry George (or Gustav) 22 Feb 1909 in Hamburg, Germany.

In December 1909, they left >from Hamburg, Germany to New York, US on
the President Grant ship, arriving 16 Dec 1909. The manifest says they
were being sponsored by Clara's uncle or father, Wilhelm SCHULZ, in
New York. However, I have no record for that connection and I have no
record of the family staying in New York after they arrived. All
Wilhelm Schulz connections I have tried to make have turned out not to
be a connection or a dead end.

I am hoping someone here has a connection or information about
Gustav's family, or Clara's family. Thank you,

Trish McCauley, Northern California, USA trish@...


German SIG #Germany INTRO Looking for leads to family of Gustav Edward Walter KOCH/Clara Hedwig Freida SCHULZ #germany

T <teezr1@...>
 

I am looking to track down any information about my gr-grandfather,
gr-grandmother and family in Germany. I have no idea if he was Jewish
or not, I do know he was German by birth. I believe she was Jewish but
have yet to find proof. =I *finally* tracked down his US Immigration
paperwork, so I have some data, but it is mostly handwritten and badly
scanned >from early in the 1900's.

his name: Gustav Edward Walter KOCH born: 23 April 1881, Wittenberge,
Germany, according to the immigration paperwork.

Gustav married Clara Hedwig Freida SCHULZ born: 03 Dec 1883 in either
Posen, Prussia, or Schwerin, Germany (immigration papers say Germany,
US Census says Posen, my grandmother said Poland). Somewhere in
Clara's family line is a Dumbrowski or Dombrowski and a Polish
connection--according to my grandmother.

I know Gustav and Clara married sometime in 1905, I believe late in
1905, somewhere in Germany.

They had two children, Hedwig Freida in 1906 in Cuxhaven, Germany and
Harry George (or Gustav) 22 Feb 1909 in Hamburg, Germany.

In December 1909, they left >from Hamburg, Germany to New York, US on
the President Grant ship, arriving 16 Dec 1909. The manifest says they
were being sponsored by Clara's uncle or father, Wilhelm SCHULZ, in
New York. However, I have no record for that connection and I have no
record of the family staying in New York after they arrived. All
Wilhelm Schulz connections I have tried to make have turned out not to
be a connection or a dead end.

I am hoping someone here has a connection or information about
Gustav's family, or Clara's family. Thank you,

Trish McCauley, Northern California, USA trish@...


IIJG - Call for Genealogical Research Proposals #lodz #poland

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy in Jerusalem (IIJG) has
issued its annual "Call for Research Proposals" for original research in
the field of Jewish Genealogy, to be carried out in the academic year of
2012-13.

Successful applicants will be awarded grants of up to $10,000.

Proposals are requested by 31 May, 2012. Proposals meeting strict
standards of academic excellence will be judged by the extent to which
they broaden the horizons of Jewish genealogical research and/or create
innovative tools or technologies to assist Jewish genealogists and family
historians in their work.

The CFRP and "Instructions to Applicants" are to be found on the
Institute's website: www.iijg.org - under "RESEARCH"/ "Research Grants".
These Instructions should be followed carefully, as only applications
in correct form will be considered.

Successful applicants will be announced on 1 September, 2012.

On the behalf of IIJG,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland IIJG - Call for Genealogical Research Proposals #lodz #poland

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy in Jerusalem (IIJG) has
issued its annual "Call for Research Proposals" for original research in
the field of Jewish Genealogy, to be carried out in the academic year of
2012-13.

Successful applicants will be awarded grants of up to $10,000.

Proposals are requested by 31 May, 2012. Proposals meeting strict
standards of academic excellence will be judged by the extent to which
they broaden the horizons of Jewish genealogical research and/or create
innovative tools or technologies to assist Jewish genealogists and family
historians in their work.

The CFRP and "Instructions to Applicants" are to be found on the
Institute's website: www.iijg.org - under "RESEARCH"/ "Research Grants".
These Instructions should be followed carefully, as only applications
in correct form will be considered.

Successful applicants will be announced on 1 September, 2012.

On the behalf of IIJG,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


IGS Meeting in Jerusalem #poland

Israel P
 

I shall be speaking at the meeting of the Israel Genealogical Society next
Wednesday evening, 15 February, at seven forty-five. (The meeting begins
at seven-thirty.)

I shall be presenting my talk >from the DC Conference last summer, but in
Hebrew: "Beyond a Doubt: What We Know vs. What We Can Prove"

The meeting will be held at Bet Frankfurter, 80 Derech Bet Lehem and there
is a charge of NIS 20 for non-members.

Israel Pickholtz


JRI Poland #Poland IGS Meeting in Jerusalem #poland

Israel P
 

I shall be speaking at the meeting of the Israel Genealogical Society next
Wednesday evening, 15 February, at seven forty-five. (The meeting begins
at seven-thirty.)

I shall be presenting my talk >from the DC Conference last summer, but in
Hebrew: "Beyond a Doubt: What We Know vs. What We Can Prove"

The meeting will be held at Bet Frankfurter, 80 Derech Bet Lehem and there
is a charge of NIS 20 for non-members.

Israel Pickholtz


IIJG - Call for Genealogical Research Proposals #poland

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy in Jerusalem (IIJG)
has issued its annual "Call for Research Proposals" for original research
in the field of Jewish Genealogy, to be carried out in the academic
year of 2012-13.

Successful applicants will be awarded grants of up to $10,000.

Proposals are requested by 31 May, 2012. Proposals meeting strict
standards of academic excellence will be judged by the extent to which
they broaden the horizons of Jewish genealogical research and/or create
innovative tools or technologies to assist Jewish genealogists and family
historians in their work.

The CFRP and "Instructions to Applicants" are to be found on the
Institute's website: www.iijg.org - under "RESEARCH"/ "Research Grants".
These Instructions should be followed carefully, as only applications in
correct form will be considered.

Successful applicants will be announced on 1 September, 2012.

On the behalf of IIJG,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


JRI Poland #Poland IIJG - Call for Genealogical Research Proposals #poland

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy in Jerusalem (IIJG)
has issued its annual "Call for Research Proposals" for original research
in the field of Jewish Genealogy, to be carried out in the academic
year of 2012-13.

Successful applicants will be awarded grants of up to $10,000.

Proposals are requested by 31 May, 2012. Proposals meeting strict
standards of academic excellence will be judged by the extent to which
they broaden the horizons of Jewish genealogical research and/or create
innovative tools or technologies to assist Jewish genealogists and family
historians in their work.

The CFRP and "Instructions to Applicants" are to be found on the
Institute's website: www.iijg.org - under "RESEARCH"/ "Research Grants".
These Instructions should be followed carefully, as only applications in
correct form will be considered.

Successful applicants will be announced on 1 September, 2012.

On the behalf of IIJG,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


Success with a Translation #poland

MAGICWIES@...
 

For a great number of years I had been trying, unsuccessfully, to have a
letter written in Yiddish translated. No one had been able to even
translate it a little so that I would know who it was sent to and who
wrote it. I posted the letter on ViewMate and received a few suggestions.
Fortunately, Beate S. saw the request and supplied the first and only
complete and thorough translation. I also would like to take this
opportunity to publicly thank her, and the others who also responded.
Their assistance was invaluable in this project.

Jerome D. Wiesenberg


JRI Poland #Poland Success with a Translation #poland

MAGICWIES@...
 

For a great number of years I had been trying, unsuccessfully, to have a
letter written in Yiddish translated. No one had been able to even
translate it a little so that I would know who it was sent to and who
wrote it. I posted the letter on ViewMate and received a few suggestions.
Fortunately, Beate S. saw the request and supplied the first and only
complete and thorough translation. I also would like to take this
opportunity to publicly thank her, and the others who also responded.
Their assistance was invaluable in this project.

Jerome D. Wiesenberg


Surname of Ipp. #lithuania

Mark London <mrl@...>
 

Does anyone know the derivation of the surname of Ipp? I was helping a
family member to research their ancestors >from Slobodka, and they asked
me if I could find out where the name came from. Thanks.

Mark London
Natick, MA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Surname of Ipp. #lithuania

Mark London <mrl@...>
 

Does anyone know the derivation of the surname of Ipp? I was helping a
family member to research their ancestors >from Slobodka, and they asked
me if I could find out where the name came from. Thanks.

Mark London
Natick, MA


Volatile Family Name Use in 18th Century Hamburg... Why? #germany

Alan Ehrlich
 

Hello,

I've encountered a puzzling thing regarding my DELLEVIE ancestors, and would
appreciate any explanation you might offer.

Prior to moving to Hamburg in the mid 18th century, the family lived in
Rendsburg for a period of two or three generations.Upon their arrival in
Hamburg, on those occasions where they used a civil (family) name, it's
believed they were called RENDSBURG.

After that, public records show that by latest 1781 they began exclusively
going by the family name DELLEVIE in most if not all areas of their lives,
since >from this date onward DELLEVIE appears in all wedding and birth
entries, as well as in the 1st edition of the Hamburg Address Book (idem
subsequent editions), etc. Additionally, they were well known
Jewelers/silversmiths; and I've quite often come upon 18th century examples
of their production at Christie's, Sotheby's or in other auction houses.
ALWAYS signed DELLEVIE.

HOWEVER, up until circa 1820, when one of the family members died, the
Hamburg death records "very unsystematically" show the family name as either
DELLEVIE, LEVY or RENDSBURG. BUT the family name inscribed on all the
tombstones (Jewish cemeteries in Altona and Grindel) always exclusively is
RENDSBURG.

I realize that the name DELLEVIE only was officially "officialized" in 1810.
But why all the volatility in the name they used. and why always RENDSBURG
on their headstones? Friendly regards,

Alan Ehrlich, Geneva Switzerland alan.ehrlich@...


German SIG #Germany Volatile Family Name Use in 18th Century Hamburg... Why? #germany

Alan Ehrlich
 

Hello,

I've encountered a puzzling thing regarding my DELLEVIE ancestors, and would
appreciate any explanation you might offer.

Prior to moving to Hamburg in the mid 18th century, the family lived in
Rendsburg for a period of two or three generations.Upon their arrival in
Hamburg, on those occasions where they used a civil (family) name, it's
believed they were called RENDSBURG.

After that, public records show that by latest 1781 they began exclusively
going by the family name DELLEVIE in most if not all areas of their lives,
since >from this date onward DELLEVIE appears in all wedding and birth
entries, as well as in the 1st edition of the Hamburg Address Book (idem
subsequent editions), etc. Additionally, they were well known
Jewelers/silversmiths; and I've quite often come upon 18th century examples
of their production at Christie's, Sotheby's or in other auction houses.
ALWAYS signed DELLEVIE.

HOWEVER, up until circa 1820, when one of the family members died, the
Hamburg death records "very unsystematically" show the family name as either
DELLEVIE, LEVY or RENDSBURG. BUT the family name inscribed on all the
tombstones (Jewish cemeteries in Altona and Grindel) always exclusively is
RENDSBURG.

I realize that the name DELLEVIE only was officially "officialized" in 1810.
But why all the volatility in the name they used. and why always RENDSBURG
on their headstones? Friendly regards,

Alan Ehrlich, Geneva Switzerland alan.ehrlich@...


Zimbabwe Jewish Community (corrected URL) #southafrica

Saul Issroff
 

Corrected link
http://www.zjc.org.il/showpage.php?pageid=53

Kind regards,

Saul


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Zimbabwe Jewish Community (corrected URL) #southafrica

Saul Issroff
 

Corrected link
http://www.zjc.org.il/showpage.php?pageid=53

Kind regards,

Saul


Zimbabwe Jewish Community #southafrica

Saul Issroff
 

Dave Bloom has a number of photo album pages on the ZJC website
http://www.zjc.org.il/showpage.php?pageid=53

www.zjc.org.il is a web-based history celebrating over 110 years of Jewish
Communities in Zimbabwe

Kind regards,

Saul


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Zimbabwe Jewish Community #southafrica

Saul Issroff
 

Dave Bloom has a number of photo album pages on the ZJC website
http://www.zjc.org.il/showpage.php?pageid=53

www.zjc.org.il is a web-based history celebrating over 110 years of Jewish
Communities in Zimbabwe

Kind regards,

Saul

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