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Memorial Plaque Project Update #germany

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's Memorial Plaque Project
(http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/) will be at year-end and will
include all submissions made through November 30.

The Memorial Plaque Project database currently contains close to 30,000
records >from 46 synagogues/organizations in 3 countries. The database grows
through the efforts of our donors; Jewish Genealogical Societies,
individuals, Jewish day schools, and synagogues. If you are aware of Yizkor
lists or memorial plaques that are not currently in our database, we would
appreciate if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
the JewishGen Memorial Plaque Database" at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org

Thank you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman, Memorial Plaque Project Coordinator


German SIG #Germany Memorial Plaque Project Update #germany

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's Memorial Plaque Project
(http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/) will be at year-end and will
include all submissions made through November 30.

The Memorial Plaque Project database currently contains close to 30,000
records >from 46 synagogues/organizations in 3 countries. The database grows
through the efforts of our donors; Jewish Genealogical Societies,
individuals, Jewish day schools, and synagogues. If you are aware of Yizkor
lists or memorial plaques that are not currently in our database, we would
appreciate if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
the JewishGen Memorial Plaque Database" at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org

Thank you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman, Memorial Plaque Project Coordinator


SITE CITE - FindAGrave now has data on holocaust victims #germany

Barbara Algaze
 

The data on the free website at www.FindAGrave.com is courtesy of hundreds
of volunteers world wide who post information on cemeteries and the names
and (sometimes) photos of tombstones in these cemeteries all around the
world. It now also has data on some holocaust victims.

I have found 72,743 interments for Shoah Memorial in Ile-de-France
142,106 interments under Jews of Germany murdered in the Holocaust Mitte
Berlin Germany
161,600 interments for Dachau KZ - Dachau, Dachauer Landkreis Bavaria
(Bayern) Germany
985 interments for Theresienstadt Concentration Camp Terezin
(Theresienstadt) Ustecky Czech Republic
13,706 interments for Auschwitz Death Camp Also known as: Auschwitz
Concentration Camp Oswiecim Malopolskie Poland
I am sure that there are others. If anyone can find additional lists, please
share them with this group.

Most of the names have (>from what I can tell) accurate birth dates, but no
dates of death.

It looks as if the information was submitted by a group called,
"International Wargraves Photography Project"
You can read more about this group at
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=46770518
I do not know know >from where they obtained their data.

I found my grandmother under "Jews of Germany murdered in the Holocaust
Mitte Berlin Germany" even though she lived in Wilmersdorf, her last two
addresses were Lietzenburger Str. 29, and Johann Georg Str. 7 and she was
deported >from Berlin with the 10th transport to Riga, on Jan 25, 1942.

Barbara Algaze, Los Angeles, California, <Algaze3@gmail.com>


German SIG #Germany SITE CITE - FindAGrave now has data on holocaust victims #germany

Barbara Algaze
 

The data on the free website at www.FindAGrave.com is courtesy of hundreds
of volunteers world wide who post information on cemeteries and the names
and (sometimes) photos of tombstones in these cemeteries all around the
world. It now also has data on some holocaust victims.

I have found 72,743 interments for Shoah Memorial in Ile-de-France
142,106 interments under Jews of Germany murdered in the Holocaust Mitte
Berlin Germany
161,600 interments for Dachau KZ - Dachau, Dachauer Landkreis Bavaria
(Bayern) Germany
985 interments for Theresienstadt Concentration Camp Terezin
(Theresienstadt) Ustecky Czech Republic
13,706 interments for Auschwitz Death Camp Also known as: Auschwitz
Concentration Camp Oswiecim Malopolskie Poland
I am sure that there are others. If anyone can find additional lists, please
share them with this group.

Most of the names have (>from what I can tell) accurate birth dates, but no
dates of death.

It looks as if the information was submitted by a group called,
"International Wargraves Photography Project"
You can read more about this group at
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=46770518
I do not know know >from where they obtained their data.

I found my grandmother under "Jews of Germany murdered in the Holocaust
Mitte Berlin Germany" even though she lived in Wilmersdorf, her last two
addresses were Lietzenburger Str. 29, and Johann Georg Str. 7 and she was
deported >from Berlin with the 10th transport to Riga, on Jan 25, 1942.

Barbara Algaze, Los Angeles, California, <Algaze3@gmail.com>


Re: Accuracy of dates in public records & sources #germany

Jeff Lewy <airbair@...>
 

I would like to make one comment to amplify John Lowens' statement on
date conflicts in records of the same event. Keep in mind that there
may be a later request for the information of the event, which may
have a much later date than the event.

I saw one just yesterday - a "birth certificate" (Geburtsschein) from
8 Sep 1910, with an entry date of 10 Sep 1910, and a "witness of
birth" (Geburtskunde) for the same person, same birthdate, 8 Sep 1910,
and an entry date of 21 Jul 1938. This second record was basically a
notarized statement (made in a different place) by the father of his
son's birthdate, which was used by the son as part of his papers to
leave Germany for Palestine (just in time). (the father left, too.)

In my own family, seven children were born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
between 1860 and 1872. Birth records began there in 1872, but all
seven are in the records. When I actually went to Milwaukee and saw
the records books, I found that all seven were recorded on the same
day - just after the birth of the last of the seven!

In the US, delayed birth certificates were not uncommon. A midwife
might report all the births she assisted in the few times she went to
the county seat; a birth at home might not be reported, and then
recorded when the baby was an adult and needed another document (like
a passport) which required "proof of birth."

The moral of the story is that our current passion for accuracy and
detail is a product of our own times, and not always true for the past
(even when there wasn't a good reason to fudge the truth).

Jeff Lewy, San Francisco, CA USA [Reply off list to] <airbair@gmail.com>


German SIG #Germany Re: Accuracy of dates in public records & sources #germany

Jeff Lewy <airbair@...>
 

I would like to make one comment to amplify John Lowens' statement on
date conflicts in records of the same event. Keep in mind that there
may be a later request for the information of the event, which may
have a much later date than the event.

I saw one just yesterday - a "birth certificate" (Geburtsschein) from
8 Sep 1910, with an entry date of 10 Sep 1910, and a "witness of
birth" (Geburtskunde) for the same person, same birthdate, 8 Sep 1910,
and an entry date of 21 Jul 1938. This second record was basically a
notarized statement (made in a different place) by the father of his
son's birthdate, which was used by the son as part of his papers to
leave Germany for Palestine (just in time). (the father left, too.)

In my own family, seven children were born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
between 1860 and 1872. Birth records began there in 1872, but all
seven are in the records. When I actually went to Milwaukee and saw
the records books, I found that all seven were recorded on the same
day - just after the birth of the last of the seven!

In the US, delayed birth certificates were not uncommon. A midwife
might report all the births she assisted in the few times she went to
the county seat; a birth at home might not be reported, and then
recorded when the baby was an adult and needed another document (like
a passport) which required "proof of birth."

The moral of the story is that our current passion for accuracy and
detail is a product of our own times, and not always true for the past
(even when there wasn't a good reason to fudge the truth).

Jeff Lewy, San Francisco, CA USA [Reply off list to] <airbair@gmail.com>


Re: Accuracy of dates in public records & sources #germany

Sally Bruckheimer
 

Dates are inaccurate for many reasons. People might remember wrong (or changing
calendars, >from Jewish or Julian to Gregorian), but I think most of the time is simply
differences in rites.

The records >from Europe are usually civil registry dates. This couple married civilly
on a certain date. However, they may have married religiously long before.
Sometimes you see civil marriage records where a couple had already had 15 kids.
Sometimes this is because a widow and widower married, but if you look at the birth
records of the kids, often the kids were the biological children of the couple, and
the civil marriage presumably takes place many years after the religious marriage.
Why this happens is often a mystery, but it may have happened because of changes
in the tax on (civil) marriages, or there may have been some effort by the government
to get people to marry. Perhaps, as we have 'vow renewal' ceremonies today, a couple
might have married civilly after many years, just to celebrate and confirm their marriage
(this is a guess on my part, I don't know of any instance, but we often don't know why).

Since there was no reason to marry civilly to emigrate, that probably wasn't done.
A man and a woman with kids could leave just as legally (or illegally) as a family.
And, if the couple was going to America, they needed no papers at all to immigrate,
but they might have wanted to have a civil marriage record, perhaps if they had a
fire and their ketubah was destroyed.

Sally Bruckheimer, Princeton, NJ sallybruc@yahoo.com

[Moderator note: "Civil" marriage in Germany is explained in the Expedia article
cited in this Forum yesterday. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standesamt


German SIG #Germany Re: Accuracy of dates in public records & sources #germany

Sally Bruckheimer
 

Dates are inaccurate for many reasons. People might remember wrong (or changing
calendars, >from Jewish or Julian to Gregorian), but I think most of the time is simply
differences in rites.

The records >from Europe are usually civil registry dates. This couple married civilly
on a certain date. However, they may have married religiously long before.
Sometimes you see civil marriage records where a couple had already had 15 kids.
Sometimes this is because a widow and widower married, but if you look at the birth
records of the kids, often the kids were the biological children of the couple, and
the civil marriage presumably takes place many years after the religious marriage.
Why this happens is often a mystery, but it may have happened because of changes
in the tax on (civil) marriages, or there may have been some effort by the government
to get people to marry. Perhaps, as we have 'vow renewal' ceremonies today, a couple
might have married civilly after many years, just to celebrate and confirm their marriage
(this is a guess on my part, I don't know of any instance, but we often don't know why).

Since there was no reason to marry civilly to emigrate, that probably wasn't done.
A man and a woman with kids could leave just as legally (or illegally) as a family.
And, if the couple was going to America, they needed no papers at all to immigrate,
but they might have wanted to have a civil marriage record, perhaps if they had a
fire and their ketubah was destroyed.

Sally Bruckheimer, Princeton, NJ sallybruc@yahoo.com

[Moderator note: "Civil" marriage in Germany is explained in the Expedia article
cited in this Forum yesterday. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standesamt


Yiddish or German Translation Needed - ViewMate #germany

Avraham Lapa <avraham997@...>
 

Thank you to all who have already helped me with translations of documents
and letter. I still have a few left on ViewMate that is awaiting
translation. It is located here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29747
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29748
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29749
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29746

If anyone has the ability to provide a translation for me, it would be much appreciated!
Thank you in advance

Avraham Lapa in Israel
Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen and
GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors0.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


German SIG #Germany Yiddish or German Translation Needed - ViewMate #germany

Avraham Lapa <avraham997@...>
 

Thank you to all who have already helped me with translations of documents
and letter. I still have a few left on ViewMate that is awaiting
translation. It is located here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29747
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29748
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29749
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29746

If anyone has the ability to provide a translation for me, it would be much appreciated!
Thank you in advance

Avraham Lapa in Israel
Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen and
GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors0.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Translation help - ViewMate File # 29783 1716 grave stone #germany

Michael Marx <mhmarx@...>
 

I have posted a picture of the gravestone of my 7th great grandmother
who died in 1716. The cemetery is in Hemsbach, Baden, Germany.
While some parts of the stone are worn away, it is still in remarkably good
shape after almost 300 years.

I would like a translation of the inscription. What I know is that her name was
Dina. She died 9 January 1716. She was married to David. They lived in
Schriesheim. The picture is on the ViewMate Image Gallery page with the number 29783.
Please reply via viewmate or off list. Thanks.

Michael Marx, Lexington, MA, USA mhmarx@alum.mit.edu


German SIG #Germany Translation help - ViewMate File # 29783 1716 grave stone #germany

Michael Marx <mhmarx@...>
 

I have posted a picture of the gravestone of my 7th great grandmother
who died in 1716. The cemetery is in Hemsbach, Baden, Germany.
While some parts of the stone are worn away, it is still in remarkably good
shape after almost 300 years.

I would like a translation of the inscription. What I know is that her name was
Dina. She died 9 January 1716. She was married to David. They lived in
Schriesheim. The picture is on the ViewMate Image Gallery page with the number 29783.
Please reply via viewmate or off list. Thanks.

Michael Marx, Lexington, MA, USA mhmarx@alum.mit.edu


Memorial Plaque Project Update #subcarpathia

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's Memorial Plaque Project
(http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/) will be at year-end and will
include all submissions made through November 30.

The Memorial Plaque Project database currently contains close to 30,000
records >from 46 synagogues/organizations in 3 countries. The database grows
through the efforts of our donors; Jewish Genealogical Societies,
individuals, Jewish day schools, and synagogues. If you are aware of Yizkor
lists or memorial plaques that are not currently in our database, we would
appreciate if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
the JewishGen Memorial Plaque Database" at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org

Thank you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
Memorial Plaque Project Coordinator


Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #subcarpathia

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR Database (JewishGen's Online Worldwide
Burial Registry) (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be at
year-end and will include all submissions made through November 30. Per
JOWBR's requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or
cemetery sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 2 million Jewish burial records >from 81
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of cemetery
records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate if you
could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates, at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org

Thank you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JOWBR Coordinator


Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Memorial Plaque Project Update #subcarpathia

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's Memorial Plaque Project
(http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/) will be at year-end and will
include all submissions made through November 30.

The Memorial Plaque Project database currently contains close to 30,000
records >from 46 synagogues/organizations in 3 countries. The database grows
through the efforts of our donors; Jewish Genealogical Societies,
individuals, Jewish day schools, and synagogues. If you are aware of Yizkor
lists or memorial plaques that are not currently in our database, we would
appreciate if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
the JewishGen Memorial Plaque Database" at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org

Thank you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
Memorial Plaque Project Coordinator


Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #subcarpathia

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR Database (JewishGen's Online Worldwide
Burial Registry) (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be at
year-end and will include all submissions made through November 30. Per
JOWBR's requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or
cemetery sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 2 million Jewish burial records >from 81
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of cemetery
records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate if you
could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates, at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org

Thank you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JOWBR Coordinator


2014 Heritage Trip to Lithuania with side trips to Belarus #belarus

Peggy Freedman <peggyf@...>
 

Howard Margol and I are organizing another group trip to Lithuania -
June 17 to June 27, 2014.

If you are interested in tracing your roots in Lithuania, Belarus ,
Latvia, or
Eastern Poland close to Lithuania, now is the time to sign up because
we will be limiting the group size to 25.

Included - visits to the various Archives, synagogues, ghettos, Holocaust
sites, meetings with Jewish leaders, sight-seeing, guide/interpreters, and
two days to visit and spend time in your shtetl, or shtetlach of interest.
All meals are included (except for one dinner and two lunches), the finest
hotels (new & modern), modern buses, and much more.

Howard and I are very familiar with the Archives, the archivists, Lithuania
and the main places of Jewish interest. Our previous trip participants can
be contacted if references are desired.

For details and a full itinerary of the trip, check our web site at:
www.litvaktrip.peggyspage.org

or contact Howard Margol or Peggy Freedman, E-mail: litvaktrip@gmail.com

Please do not respond to the discussion group.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Howard Margol


Belarus SIG #Belarus 2014 Heritage Trip to Lithuania with side trips to Belarus #belarus

Peggy Freedman <peggyf@...>
 

Howard Margol and I are organizing another group trip to Lithuania -
June 17 to June 27, 2014.

If you are interested in tracing your roots in Lithuania, Belarus ,
Latvia, or
Eastern Poland close to Lithuania, now is the time to sign up because
we will be limiting the group size to 25.

Included - visits to the various Archives, synagogues, ghettos, Holocaust
sites, meetings with Jewish leaders, sight-seeing, guide/interpreters, and
two days to visit and spend time in your shtetl, or shtetlach of interest.
All meals are included (except for one dinner and two lunches), the finest
hotels (new & modern), modern buses, and much more.

Howard and I are very familiar with the Archives, the archivists, Lithuania
and the main places of Jewish interest. Our previous trip participants can
be contacted if references are desired.

For details and a full itinerary of the trip, check our web site at:
www.litvaktrip.peggyspage.org

or contact Howard Margol or Peggy Freedman, E-mail: litvaktrip@gmail.com

Please do not respond to the discussion group.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Howard Margol


Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #belarus

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR Database (JewishGen's Online Worldwide
Burial Registry) (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be at
year-end and will include all submissions made through November 30. Per
JOWBR's requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or
cemetery sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 2 million Jewish burial records >from 81
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of cemetery
records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate if you
could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates, at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org

Thank you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JOWBR Coordinator


Belarus SIG #Belarus Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #belarus

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR Database (JewishGen's Online Worldwide
Burial Registry) (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be at
year-end and will include all submissions made through November 30. Per
JOWBR's requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or
cemetery sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 2 million Jewish burial records >from 81
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of cemetery
records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate if you
could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates, at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org

Thank you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JOWBR Coordinator

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