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help translation polish and Russian #poland

אברהם <avraham997@...>
 

I would appreciate getting connection with any polish or Russian translator,
I got record's in polish and Russian that its impossible to put it on
ViewMate and I need translation help,
if I can get any help directly I will appreciate
thank u
avraham lapa
Israel
please respond directly
avraham997@gmail.com

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or information about professional translators.


JRI Poland #Poland help translation polish and Russian #poland

אברהם <avraham997@...>
 

I would appreciate getting connection with any polish or Russian translator,
I got record's in polish and Russian that its impossible to put it on
ViewMate and I need translation help,
if I can get any help directly I will appreciate
thank u
avraham lapa
Israel
please respond directly
avraham997@gmail.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with any recommendations
or information about professional translators.


Posen City Registration Cards--they're up through R! (Take 3) #poland

Roger Lustig
 

[Slight revision of my previous post, with thanks to Joachim Mugdan
re: alphabetical order]

Dear all:

Last summer we learned of the existence of images of the residence
registration index cards >from the city of Posen/Poznan.

The date range for these cards is given as 1870-1931. They are of great
interest because they list all the members of a family and give birth
dates and places--and sometimes the names of parents too. Moves, both
within Posen/Poznan and from/to the city are noted.

The Polish State Archive image web site had uploaded images of the cards
alphabetized A through L and the first part of M.

I just noticed that the rest of M plus N through R have been uploaded.

==NEW==> The cards are supposed to be in alphabetical order. However,
this order is generally based on the Polish spelling of a particular
name: ALEKSANDR instead of ALEXANDER, RAJCH instead of REICH. To find
the Polish spelling of a name that interests you, do a Soundex search in
the Family Finder or at JRI-Poland and see what spellings come up under
Poland. If the name in question is an unusual one, search on one that
starts the same way. <==NEW==

The cards are cataloged in groups of 500 to 1000 images each. (Some
cards have info on both sides!)

As many have remarked, the site gives excellent images (and lots of
them) but is not particularly user-friendly, especially for us who don't
know much Polish. The collection in question (Posnan Archive 474:
Records of the City of Posen) is cataloged on the site in such a way to
make it nearly impossible to find what one wants among the 26,000+
items, all of which are listed although about 97% of them aren't on line
(yet). In fact, the only part of the collection that's available is this
set of cards.

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/str/1/100#tabJednostki

gets you to the alphabetical list of those groups.

That page and the next 10 link to a summary page for each group (click
on any column in the row you want). ==NEW==> The last 3 pages are
reserved for S through Z, so there's no need to look past page 8 for the
moment. <==NEW==

>from there, click on "Digital Copies" to the right of the red arrow
with the call number in it.

That will get you to a page of 15 thumbnails. You can set the page size
as high as 100 thumbnails.

Click on one of them to see a medium-sized image. You can page through
these fairly quickly. The image display has a feature that will give you
an enlarged version in a separate window.

The cards are supposed to be in alphabetical order, but this is not
always exactly the case, so if you're not sure you've found everything
you need, cast your net a little wider!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA
research coordinator, GerSIG
Prussian Poland coordinator, JRI-Poland


JRI Poland #Poland Posen City Registration Cards--they're up through R! (Take 3) #poland

Roger Lustig
 

[Slight revision of my previous post, with thanks to Joachim Mugdan
re: alphabetical order]

Dear all:

Last summer we learned of the existence of images of the residence
registration index cards >from the city of Posen/Poznan.

The date range for these cards is given as 1870-1931. They are of great
interest because they list all the members of a family and give birth
dates and places--and sometimes the names of parents too. Moves, both
within Posen/Poznan and from/to the city are noted.

The Polish State Archive image web site had uploaded images of the cards
alphabetized A through L and the first part of M.

I just noticed that the rest of M plus N through R have been uploaded.

==NEW==> The cards are supposed to be in alphabetical order. However,
this order is generally based on the Polish spelling of a particular
name: ALEKSANDR instead of ALEXANDER, RAJCH instead of REICH. To find
the Polish spelling of a name that interests you, do a Soundex search in
the Family Finder or at JRI-Poland and see what spellings come up under
Poland. If the name in question is an unusual one, search on one that
starts the same way. <==NEW==

The cards are cataloged in groups of 500 to 1000 images each. (Some
cards have info on both sides!)

As many have remarked, the site gives excellent images (and lots of
them) but is not particularly user-friendly, especially for us who don't
know much Polish. The collection in question (Posnan Archive 474:
Records of the City of Posen) is cataloged on the site in such a way to
make it nearly impossible to find what one wants among the 26,000+
items, all of which are listed although about 97% of them aren't on line
(yet). In fact, the only part of the collection that's available is this
set of cards.

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/str/1/100#tabJednostki

gets you to the alphabetical list of those groups.

That page and the next 10 link to a summary page for each group (click
on any column in the row you want). ==NEW==> The last 3 pages are
reserved for S through Z, so there's no need to look past page 8 for the
moment. <==NEW==

>from there, click on "Digital Copies" to the right of the red arrow
with the call number in it.

That will get you to a page of 15 thumbnails. You can set the page size
as high as 100 thumbnails.

Click on one of them to see a medium-sized image. You can page through
these fairly quickly. The image display has a feature that will give you
an enlarged version in a separate window.

The cards are supposed to be in alphabetical order, but this is not
always exactly the case, so if you're not sure you've found everything
you need, cast your net a little wider!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA
research coordinator, GerSIG
Prussian Poland coordinator, JRI-Poland


Polish reader sought #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

If you can read Polish fluently and would be willing to read/skim up
to 85 pages of an online book related to Bialystok history, please
contact me privately. No transcription will be involved, I just want
to know whether the book contains certain information that should be
shared with the list. Thanks.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Polish reader sought #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

If you can read Polish fluently and would be willing to read/skim up
to 85 pages of an online book related to Bialystok history, please
contact me privately. No transcription will be involved, I just want
to know whether the book contains certain information that should be
shared with the list. Thanks.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Searching Ruchel LIEBERMAN #belarus

Rachelle Berliner <rlberliner@...>
 

from Sislevitz/Swislowitz/Zvistrich/Swisloch, Russia/Belarus
I have just learned a first cousin by the given name of Ruth has the Hebrew
name, Ruchel. She believes she was named after one of her dad's sisters who
stayed behind in Swislowitz with a sister and their parents, Samson/Shimshon
and Neome Alta AIN LIEBERMAN.

There is the possibility >from a different search that turned up the name
Noda LIEBERMAN >from Swislowitz is the other sister. I never knew either
one's given name but have pictures of both. According to Bad Arolsen, and
they are still searching additional avenues, Noda LIEBERMAN was liberated
from Bergen Belsen camp in 1947. She was born in 1922.
Is this information familiar and/or does anyone have pictures that could
possibly be related to this family. My Dad, Samuel Isaiah/Shmuel Yishaiah is
the oldest of 3 brothers - Morris and Max. The family name LIEBERMAN was
changed by Dad and Max to LEAF due to the cousin who sponsored them using
this surname. Uncle Morris retained LIEBERMAN.

The U.S. cities are Savannah, GA, Brooklyn, NY and New York, New York. Other
possibly related surnames, through a great-uncle, is LIFSCHITZ and JASELOV.
Uncle Max LEAF was listed on the ship's list as Mendel LOW.

Please reply privately.

Thank you.

Rachelle LEAF BERLINER
rlberliner@comcast.net
Searching: LIEBERMAN/LEAF/LIFSCHITZ/LOW/AIN/JASELOV


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching Ruchel LIEBERMAN #belarus

Rachelle Berliner <rlberliner@...>
 

from Sislevitz/Swislowitz/Zvistrich/Swisloch, Russia/Belarus
I have just learned a first cousin by the given name of Ruth has the Hebrew
name, Ruchel. She believes she was named after one of her dad's sisters who
stayed behind in Swislowitz with a sister and their parents, Samson/Shimshon
and Neome Alta AIN LIEBERMAN.

There is the possibility >from a different search that turned up the name
Noda LIEBERMAN >from Swislowitz is the other sister. I never knew either
one's given name but have pictures of both. According to Bad Arolsen, and
they are still searching additional avenues, Noda LIEBERMAN was liberated
from Bergen Belsen camp in 1947. She was born in 1922.
Is this information familiar and/or does anyone have pictures that could
possibly be related to this family. My Dad, Samuel Isaiah/Shmuel Yishaiah is
the oldest of 3 brothers - Morris and Max. The family name LIEBERMAN was
changed by Dad and Max to LEAF due to the cousin who sponsored them using
this surname. Uncle Morris retained LIEBERMAN.

The U.S. cities are Savannah, GA, Brooklyn, NY and New York, New York. Other
possibly related surnames, through a great-uncle, is LIFSCHITZ and JASELOV.
Uncle Max LEAF was listed on the ship's list as Mendel LOW.

Please reply privately.

Thank you.

Rachelle LEAF BERLINER
rlberliner@comcast.net
Searching: LIEBERMAN/LEAF/LIFSCHITZ/LOW/AIN/JASELOV


Re: Travel tips for Belarus #belarus

Larry Gaum
 

Make sure the food you consume is not radioactive as the result of
the Chernobyl disaster, such as Cecium levels.
Stay away >from mushrooms.
Dr. Larry Gaum

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Sent >from my iPad

On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:02 PM, JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@yahoo.com> wrote:
=20
Dear All,
For those of you who have plans to travel to Belarus in the first half of
May.The world hockey championship will be held in Minsk in May
lMore than 20,000 visitors are expected to come to Minsk during that time.=
Almost all hotels in Minsk are already booked for those dates.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Travel tips for Belarus #belarus

Larry Gaum
 

Make sure the food you consume is not radioactive as the result of
the Chernobyl disaster, such as Cecium levels.
Stay away >from mushrooms.
Dr. Larry Gaum

MODERATOR NOTE: List members:
Yuri's message is for informational purposes only
and will not be the start of a thread. Thank you



Sent >from my iPad

On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:02 PM, JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@yahoo.com> wrote:
=20
Dear All,
For those of you who have plans to travel to Belarus in the first half of
May.The world hockey championship will be held in Minsk in May
lMore than 20,000 visitors are expected to come to Minsk during that time.=
Almost all hotels in Minsk are already booked for those dates.


Translation from Latvian #latvia

Coral
 

Hello,

With the generous help of Rita Bogdanova at the Latvian Archives, I have
been able to obtain some documents that relate to my Grandfather's return to
Latvia in 1922 after his family was deported to the Ukraine during World War
1 and his departure >from Latvia to Canada in 1925.

There are 5 documents, including Interrogation and Refugee forms as well as
passport applications. I am hopeful someone might be able to assist with the
translation of these forms (word for word). The forms are posted on
ViewMate:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32013
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32014
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32015
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32016
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32017

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Coral Grant
Sooke, BC, Canada

Researching:

Friedrichstadt/ Jaunjelgava, Latvia: JACOBSON, FRIEDMAN
Glazmanka/Gostini, Latvia: GRUZIN


Latvia SIG #Latvia Translation from Latvian #latvia

Coral
 

Hello,

With the generous help of Rita Bogdanova at the Latvian Archives, I have
been able to obtain some documents that relate to my Grandfather's return to
Latvia in 1922 after his family was deported to the Ukraine during World War
1 and his departure >from Latvia to Canada in 1925.

There are 5 documents, including Interrogation and Refugee forms as well as
passport applications. I am hopeful someone might be able to assist with the
translation of these forms (word for word). The forms are posted on
ViewMate:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32013
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32014
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32015
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32016
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32017

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Coral Grant
Sooke, BC, Canada

Researching:

Friedrichstadt/ Jaunjelgava, Latvia: JACOBSON, FRIEDMAN
Glazmanka/Gostini, Latvia: GRUZIN


KOHN family of Baiersdorf -- info from an LDS film #germany

Ellen Barnett Cleary
 

I am researching my KOHN family >from Baiersdorf.

There is some information about this family on LDS film 1190988 or
1190989, titled 1826 Matrikel, Jüdische Gemeinde Ansbach
(Mittelfranken). The number AS 1368 appears on the relevant portion of
the film.

I just thought it couldn't hurt to ask if some kind person has easy
access to these films and could check the listing of this family for me.
I don't know if it's possible to take either a digital or photocopy
photo of this list, but if so, I would so greatly appreciate it.

The list I'm interested in contains
926 Benjamin Michael KOHN's widow 1768
Sussman KOHN 1818

I am almost certain the number after Sussman Kohn may be misread and is
1808. That is what I am trying to verify.

Please contact me off list.

Ellen Barnett Cleary, San Francisco CA USA ellencleary@comcast.net


German SIG #Germany KOHN family of Baiersdorf -- info from an LDS film #germany

Ellen Barnett Cleary
 

I am researching my KOHN family >from Baiersdorf.

There is some information about this family on LDS film 1190988 or
1190989, titled 1826 Matrikel, Jüdische Gemeinde Ansbach
(Mittelfranken). The number AS 1368 appears on the relevant portion of
the film.

I just thought it couldn't hurt to ask if some kind person has easy
access to these films and could check the listing of this family for me.
I don't know if it's possible to take either a digital or photocopy
photo of this list, but if so, I would so greatly appreciate it.

The list I'm interested in contains
926 Benjamin Michael KOHN's widow 1768
Sussman KOHN 1818

I am almost certain the number after Sussman Kohn may be misread and is
1808. That is what I am trying to verify.

Please contact me off list.

Ellen Barnett Cleary, San Francisco CA USA ellencleary@comcast.net


List of Jewish residents in the German Reich 1933 - 1945 #germany

Nancy Korn <nakorn@...>
 

Hello all,

On the bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch website I read about a project
entitled "List of Jewish residents in the German Reich 1933-1945"
(Die Liste der juedischen Einwohner im Deutschen Reich 1933 - 1945).

"The main objective is to compile a list, as completely and precisely
as possible, of the approximately 600,000 Jewish residents, who had
been residing in Germany anytime between 1933 - 1945 - borders of the
Reich as outlined on 31 December 1937 - and who had been persecuted
because of their Jewish origin or Jewish belief by the National
Socialist regime."

Below is the link for a full description of the different stages
of the project (in German): http://tinyurl.com/kfzjb5k

http://www.bundesarchiv.de/imperia/md/content/abteilungen/abtr/internet_zu_residentenliste_1_.pdf

Since my German is limited, I was hoping for some clarification.
Does anyone know about this project, if/when it will be completed
and how the information will be made available?

Thanks, Nancy Korn Boston, Mass. nakorn@comcast.net


German SIG #Germany List of Jewish residents in the German Reich 1933 - 1945 #germany

Nancy Korn <nakorn@...>
 

Hello all,

On the bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch website I read about a project
entitled "List of Jewish residents in the German Reich 1933-1945"
(Die Liste der juedischen Einwohner im Deutschen Reich 1933 - 1945).

"The main objective is to compile a list, as completely and precisely
as possible, of the approximately 600,000 Jewish residents, who had
been residing in Germany anytime between 1933 - 1945 - borders of the
Reich as outlined on 31 December 1937 - and who had been persecuted
because of their Jewish origin or Jewish belief by the National
Socialist regime."

Below is the link for a full description of the different stages
of the project (in German): http://tinyurl.com/kfzjb5k

http://www.bundesarchiv.de/imperia/md/content/abteilungen/abtr/internet_zu_residentenliste_1_.pdf

Since my German is limited, I was hoping for some clarification.
Does anyone know about this project, if/when it will be completed
and how the information will be made available?

Thanks, Nancy Korn Boston, Mass. nakorn@comcast.net


Re: Posen City Registration Cards--they're up through R! #general

Roger Lustig
 

André:
I don't think that's the case. The authorities kept registration books
long before then and probably transferred the information to cards in 1870.

I'm looking at a card for a family of 6, where the youngest was born in
1866. The original address (Judenstrasse 16!) is dated 30 Oct 1855, and
is the only one in the same handwriting as the names of the family
members. The first updates (1877 and 1879) are for 2 sons moving away
and one of them returning. The family address does not change until
1881, so the creation of the card cannot be the the result of a move.
Here it is:

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/14854/str/1/2/100/yA1IVjM_BOFs8q2_
NdK03A/#tabSkany

( MOD: http://tinyurl.com/naowzu3 )

In any event, people moved often in those days--and in the early 1920s
almost all the German Jews moved away and Polish ones moved in.

Best regards,
Roger

On 1/26/2014 7:38 AM, André Günther wrote:
Hi Roger,

you should have mentioned, that the person must have MOVED in this period
- otherwise it´s logical that he/she is missing.
snip...............


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Posen City Registration Cards--they're up through R! #general

Roger Lustig
 

André:
I don't think that's the case. The authorities kept registration books
long before then and probably transferred the information to cards in 1870.

I'm looking at a card for a family of 6, where the youngest was born in
1866. The original address (Judenstrasse 16!) is dated 30 Oct 1855, and
is the only one in the same handwriting as the names of the family
members. The first updates (1877 and 1879) are for 2 sons moving away
and one of them returning. The family address does not change until
1881, so the creation of the card cannot be the the result of a move.
Here it is:

http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/14854/str/1/2/100/yA1IVjM_BOFs8q2_
NdK03A/#tabSkany

( MOD: http://tinyurl.com/naowzu3 )

In any event, people moved often in those days--and in the early 1920s
almost all the German Jews moved away and Polish ones moved in.

Best regards,
Roger

On 1/26/2014 7:38 AM, André Günther wrote:
Hi Roger,

you should have mentioned, that the person must have MOVED in this period
- otherwise it´s logical that he/she is missing.
snip...............


Blucher passenger lists? (Also, World Family Tree update) #general

David W. Perle
 

RE: WORLD FAMILY TREE:

Hi, all. First, thanks to those who've already responded re: my World
Family Tree question. The consensus is that the data on there is not to be
depended on too strictly, particularly when you have conflicting
documentation. Basically, take it all with a grain of salt. Thank you to
one member who actually sent me the data for the branch that I was looking
for. It turns out that it doesn't seem to offer anything new than I already
had found online, but it's good to at least know that there was nothing else
there that I was missing out on? (You know, I wondered for example if maybe
it gave names of contributors whom I might be able to find and talk to...)

RE: BLUCHER PASSENGER LISTS

New questions, re: a different branch of my family, concerning my
great-grandfather William David Perle of New Jersey, born in Kalisz, Poland.
THE UPSHOT MINUS THE FOLLOWING LONG-WINDED INFO: I want to know if there
are transcribed or otherwise browsable passenger records for the German ship
Blucher which may have arrived in New York in December of 1901.

THE LONG-WINDED BACKGROUND: I recently obtained my great-grandfather
William Perle's original, ultimately rejected petition to naturalize from
when the family first lived in New York City 110 years ago (about a block
from the northeast corner of Central Park--SEEMS very impressive, but I have
no idea what the neighborhood was like back then!). It was rejected because
they then moved out of the jurisdiction, into New Jersey. But here's the
thing: It very helpfully shows that he arrived in New York in December 1901
on the German ship Blucher. Now, through Ancestry when looking up my
great-grandfather, I found a December *1902* passenger listing, on the same
ship, for a David Perle of Kalisz (he was originally Dawid Wolf Perle in
Poland), of the same age as my great-grandfather. I'm faaairly certain that
has got to be my great-grandfather. That's too many coincidences!

But there's the year discrepancy. One explanation is that the year was
written wrong on his original petition to naturalize, that it should have
stated December 1902 instead of December 1901. I do feel like he did
originally come here in 1901, though. There's even a reporter-written
obituary after he passed away in which it says that he arrived in 1900. It
seems more likely that was just one year off rather than two. Now, another
explanation--particularly with what one of his very-very elderly daughters
(now deceased) said just last year, that he had originally come to the U.S.
on holiday and then angered his parents/family when he decided to stay: I'm
thinking that perhaps the petition to naturalize accurately states that he
first arrived in December 1901, but then perhaps he WENT HOME to either wrap
things up with the intent to permanently move back to the U.S., or perhaps
it was after going home that he made the decision to move to the U.S.
full-time. Either way, it seems likely that the 1902 passenger entry that I
found was his *second* voyage to the U.S. It seems coincidental that it
would have theoretically been exactly one year after his original voyage,
but I suppose if the ship kept regular schedules >from year to year...why
not?

So, what I want to know: Ancestry didn't turn up any 1901 entry for
David Perle on the ship Blucher arriving in NY in December 1901, but are
there any other records (preferably transcribed, or otherwise scanned if
not), which I might scan looking for my great-grandfather?

I'm still working on trying to find their eventually approved petition to
naturalize, after they moved to NJ...

David Perle
Washington, DC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Blucher passenger lists? (Also, World Family Tree update) #general

David W. Perle
 

RE: WORLD FAMILY TREE:

Hi, all. First, thanks to those who've already responded re: my World
Family Tree question. The consensus is that the data on there is not to be
depended on too strictly, particularly when you have conflicting
documentation. Basically, take it all with a grain of salt. Thank you to
one member who actually sent me the data for the branch that I was looking
for. It turns out that it doesn't seem to offer anything new than I already
had found online, but it's good to at least know that there was nothing else
there that I was missing out on? (You know, I wondered for example if maybe
it gave names of contributors whom I might be able to find and talk to...)

RE: BLUCHER PASSENGER LISTS

New questions, re: a different branch of my family, concerning my
great-grandfather William David Perle of New Jersey, born in Kalisz, Poland.
THE UPSHOT MINUS THE FOLLOWING LONG-WINDED INFO: I want to know if there
are transcribed or otherwise browsable passenger records for the German ship
Blucher which may have arrived in New York in December of 1901.

THE LONG-WINDED BACKGROUND: I recently obtained my great-grandfather
William Perle's original, ultimately rejected petition to naturalize from
when the family first lived in New York City 110 years ago (about a block
from the northeast corner of Central Park--SEEMS very impressive, but I have
no idea what the neighborhood was like back then!). It was rejected because
they then moved out of the jurisdiction, into New Jersey. But here's the
thing: It very helpfully shows that he arrived in New York in December 1901
on the German ship Blucher. Now, through Ancestry when looking up my
great-grandfather, I found a December *1902* passenger listing, on the same
ship, for a David Perle of Kalisz (he was originally Dawid Wolf Perle in
Poland), of the same age as my great-grandfather. I'm faaairly certain that
has got to be my great-grandfather. That's too many coincidences!

But there's the year discrepancy. One explanation is that the year was
written wrong on his original petition to naturalize, that it should have
stated December 1902 instead of December 1901. I do feel like he did
originally come here in 1901, though. There's even a reporter-written
obituary after he passed away in which it says that he arrived in 1900. It
seems more likely that was just one year off rather than two. Now, another
explanation--particularly with what one of his very-very elderly daughters
(now deceased) said just last year, that he had originally come to the U.S.
on holiday and then angered his parents/family when he decided to stay: I'm
thinking that perhaps the petition to naturalize accurately states that he
first arrived in December 1901, but then perhaps he WENT HOME to either wrap
things up with the intent to permanently move back to the U.S., or perhaps
it was after going home that he made the decision to move to the U.S.
full-time. Either way, it seems likely that the 1902 passenger entry that I
found was his *second* voyage to the U.S. It seems coincidental that it
would have theoretically been exactly one year after his original voyage,
but I suppose if the ship kept regular schedules >from year to year...why
not?

So, what I want to know: Ancestry didn't turn up any 1901 entry for
David Perle on the ship Blucher arriving in NY in December 1901, but are
there any other records (preferably transcribed, or otherwise scanned if
not), which I might scan looking for my great-grandfather?

I'm still working on trying to find their eventually approved petition to
naturalize, after they moved to NJ...

David Perle
Washington, DC

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