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Re: Researching SULZBERGER and EINSTEIN #germany

Stan Dub <stan.dub@...>
 

Thanks to all who responded to my previous post, copied below. There
were many useful and responsive posts.

Two people found the marriage record I was looking for, and it
provides support for my hypotheses that Sophia Einstein was born Siel
EINSTEIN, daughter of Leopold Joseph EINSTEIN, on July 11, 1811.
Portions of one response (containing links to German language
materials) are available >from me on request.

There still remains one mystery, as concerns the identity of Sophia's
mother. The marriage certificate apparently refers to her as Rechla
nee GUTMAN, but the family book page, as well as the page >from the
Taenzer reference book (copied to me by a JewishGen correspondent)
indicates the mother's name was Rosle Salomon Joseph.

This is really a puzzle, as the "Family page" reveals the birthdate of
Siel as July 11, 1811, which is the known birthdate of our Sophia
Einstein SULZBERGER, and also says she moved to America (which Sophia
did around 1848) but that page shows her mother was Rosle Salomon
Joseph. On the other hand, the marriage certificate was signed by
Sophia, and seemingly identifies her mother as Rechla nee Gutman.

This discrepancy puts the hypothesis to question, although it seems
fanciful to assume there could have been two different women born to
two different Leopold Einsteins in this area of Germany, both on July
11, 1811, who subsequently emigrated to America. So what could
explain the discrepancy in mother's name on these two records if they
both referenced the same person? Comments?

Stanley Dub, Cleveland, Ohio stan.dub@gmail.com

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German SIG #Germany Re:Researching SULZBERGER and EINSTEIN #germany

Stan Dub <stan.dub@...>
 

Thanks to all who responded to my previous post, copied below. There
were many useful and responsive posts.

Two people found the marriage record I was looking for, and it
provides support for my hypotheses that Sophia Einstein was born Siel
EINSTEIN, daughter of Leopold Joseph EINSTEIN, on July 11, 1811.
Portions of one response (containing links to German language
materials) are available >from me on request.

There still remains one mystery, as concerns the identity of Sophia's
mother. The marriage certificate apparently refers to her as Rechla
nee GUTMAN, but the family book page, as well as the page >from the
Taenzer reference book (copied to me by a JewishGen correspondent)
indicates the mother's name was Rosle Salomon Joseph.

This is really a puzzle, as the "Family page" reveals the birthdate of
Siel as July 11, 1811, which is the known birthdate of our Sophia
Einstein SULZBERGER, and also says she moved to America (which Sophia
did around 1848) but that page shows her mother was Rosle Salomon
Joseph. On the other hand, the marriage certificate was signed by
Sophia, and seemingly identifies her mother as Rechla nee Gutman.

This discrepancy puts the hypothesis to question, although it seems
fanciful to assume there could have been two different women born to
two different Leopold Einsteins in this area of Germany, both on July
11, 1811, who subsequently emigrated to America. So what could
explain the discrepancy in mother's name on these two records if they
both referenced the same person? Comments?

Stanley Dub, Cleveland, Ohio stan.dub@gmail.com

MODERATOR NOTES: Text containing accent marks is often garbled by
our list system. Please do not included accented letters in your
email to this list.

Contact Mr. Dub for URL links to the mentioned documents and for
more details. Last names (family names like EINSTEIN) should be
typed in all capital letters in email to this list.


Re: How do we access the new data #ukraine

Janette Silverman
 

Regretfully, although about 21,000 records were submitted in 2014 to
JewishGen, this is only one step in a long process. Once JewishGen
receives the records, they go through yet another proofreading and then
formatting before they can be uploaded to the JewishGen Ukraine
Database. They are not yet live and cannot be searched.

Dr. Janette Silverman
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator
ukrainesig.coordinator@gmail.com
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505

From: Peter Cohen <peter.cohen@outlook.com>
We have received message this past year that thousands of Priluki records
have been added to the JewishGen Ukraine database. To date, I have found no
new Priluki records. In fact, entering only "Priluki" as a search term, very
few records come up.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: How do we access the new data #ukraine

Janette Silverman
 

Regretfully, although about 21,000 records were submitted in 2014 to
JewishGen, this is only one step in a long process. Once JewishGen
receives the records, they go through yet another proofreading and then
formatting before they can be uploaded to the JewishGen Ukraine
Database. They are not yet live and cannot be searched.

Dr. Janette Silverman
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator
ukrainesig.coordinator@gmail.com
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505

From: Peter Cohen <peter.cohen@outlook.com>
We have received message this past year that thousands of Priluki records
have been added to the JewishGen Ukraine database. To date, I have found no
new Priluki records. In fact, entering only "Priluki" as a search term, very
few records come up.


Lancut, Galicia/Poland: 1849 Cadastral Map in Gesher Galicia's Map Room #galicia

Pamela Weisberger
 

Come walk the streets of Lancut by viewing Gesher Galicia's newest
cadastral map for 2015: an 1849 beautiful, slightly worn, full color map
for Lancut (Lantzut, Landshut, Lancut) with the hamlet of Katy.

The richly-featured map includes a double market square, a castle, an
imperial hospital, a prominent synagogue and a large church, and both
Catholic and Jewish cemeteries; a second Jewish cemetery established
after the original survey is shown in the red-line additions, done at a
later date. Land parcels and houses are clearly numbered. The images
for this map were provided to Gesher Galicia by the Archiwum Panstwowe
w Przemyslu. The map can be viewed here:

http://maps.geshergalicia.org/cadastral/lancut-1849/

Located in the Rzeszow province, Jews had an organized Jewish
community with a wooden synagogue and a cemetery starting in the
17th century when they were joined by some Sephardi Jewish families
who had been invited to settle there. The town also has a rich rabbinic
history. The yizkor book for Lancut is here:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Lancut/Lancut.html

The full map room collection is here: http://maps.geshergalicia.org

Pamela Weisberger
President, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com
www.geshergalicia.org


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Lancut, Galicia/Poland: 1849 Cadastral Map in Gesher Galicia's Map Room #galicia

Pamela Weisberger
 

Come walk the streets of Lancut by viewing Gesher Galicia's newest
cadastral map for 2015: an 1849 beautiful, slightly worn, full color map
for Lancut (Lantzut, Landshut, Lancut) with the hamlet of Katy.

The richly-featured map includes a double market square, a castle, an
imperial hospital, a prominent synagogue and a large church, and both
Catholic and Jewish cemeteries; a second Jewish cemetery established
after the original survey is shown in the red-line additions, done at a
later date. Land parcels and houses are clearly numbered. The images
for this map were provided to Gesher Galicia by the Archiwum Panstwowe
w Przemyslu. The map can be viewed here:

http://maps.geshergalicia.org/cadastral/lancut-1849/

Located in the Rzeszow province, Jews had an organized Jewish
community with a wooden synagogue and a cemetery starting in the
17th century when they were joined by some Sephardi Jewish families
who had been invited to settle there. The town also has a rich rabbinic
history. The yizkor book for Lancut is here:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Lancut/Lancut.html

The full map room collection is here: http://maps.geshergalicia.org

Pamela Weisberger
President, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com
www.geshergalicia.org


looking for Max and Rae/Rebecca ELLENTUCH of New York #general

rayvenna@...
 

Hi,

I'm looking for descendants of the following family

Max and Rebecca (Rae/Ray) Ellentuch/Ellentuck/Ellentrich/Ellerbeck
children: Anna/Annie (b. abt. 1893 in New York)
Marion (b. abt. 1896 in New York)
Lawrence (b. abt. 1899 in New York)
Alex/Alexander (b. abt. 1902 in New York)
David (b. abt 1902 in New York)

They lived in Manhattan, New York during the 1905 and 1910 censuses.
They lived in the Bronx, New York during the 1920 census.

Max's name may have originally been Mendel; he may have been born in
Smorgon. I believe I have also located an 1886 Hamburg manifest
showing Mendel Ellentuch travelling to New York, which matches the
arrival year he gives in the 1910 census.

Can anyone help me locate descendants of this family?

Thanks,
Mindie Kaplan
Montgomery Village, Maryland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen looking for Max and Rae/Rebecca ELLENTUCH of New York #general

rayvenna@...
 

Hi,

I'm looking for descendants of the following family

Max and Rebecca (Rae/Ray) Ellentuch/Ellentuck/Ellentrich/Ellerbeck
children: Anna/Annie (b. abt. 1893 in New York)
Marion (b. abt. 1896 in New York)
Lawrence (b. abt. 1899 in New York)
Alex/Alexander (b. abt. 1902 in New York)
David (b. abt 1902 in New York)

They lived in Manhattan, New York during the 1905 and 1910 censuses.
They lived in the Bronx, New York during the 1920 census.

Max's name may have originally been Mendel; he may have been born in
Smorgon. I believe I have also located an 1886 Hamburg manifest
showing Mendel Ellentuch travelling to New York, which matches the
arrival year he gives in the 1910 census.

Can anyone help me locate descendants of this family?

Thanks,
Mindie Kaplan
Montgomery Village, Maryland


(Slovakia) Do You Know This Family--Possessions Found in Family Attic 70 Years After Deportation #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Do you know the survivors of this family >from Presov Slovakia: Samuel
GOTTSCHALL born in 1878? Family photographs and other family reassures were
found stashed away in an attic. They were found by a handyman who was fixing
his neighbor's leaking roof. Mr. Gottschall and family were deported to
concentration camps in 1942 the year the deportation of the city's Jews
started. Part of the items found were apparently looted over time- such as
a jewelry box that is now empty. But newspaper clippings and family photos
may be of interest to surviving family members.

The items were given to the city's Museum of Jewish Culture with the hope
the family could be identified and relatives located. The head of the
Presov Jewish Museum said they went through material and compared the photos
with the Museum's historic archival photographs. >from that comparison the
Museum believes the materials belonged to the family of the Jewish Neolog
cantor Samuel Gottschall. The items were found in a house next to the
building that was the Neolog Synagogue.

Before WW 2 there were 136,000 Jews, today Slovakia has about 4,000 Jews.
Between 1942-1945 about 6,000 Jews were deported >from Presov. After the war
about 800 persons returned to Presov and then relocated to Australia, North
America, Israel and the United Kingdom.

Mr. Gottschall may have had a son who survived the war: Benjamin Bela
Vojtech - who became a rabbi. After the war he immigrated to Australia and
died in Sydney in 1978.

Any relatives who get in touch with the museum can claim the items

To read the story and see photos go to: http://tinyurl.com/ntcvmyg

Original url:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2891431/Haunting-images-grave-Chilling-family-photographs-treasured-possessions-left-Jewish-family-sent-Nazi-concentration-camp-discovered-hidden-attic-70-years-later.html

Presov is one of my ancestral towns.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Slovakia) Do You Know This Family--Possessions Found in Family Attic 70 Years After Deportation #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Do you know the survivors of this family >from Presov Slovakia: Samuel
GOTTSCHALL born in 1878? Family photographs and other family reassures were
found stashed away in an attic. They were found by a handyman who was fixing
his neighbor's leaking roof. Mr. Gottschall and family were deported to
concentration camps in 1942 the year the deportation of the city's Jews
started. Part of the items found were apparently looted over time- such as
a jewelry box that is now empty. But newspaper clippings and family photos
may be of interest to surviving family members.

The items were given to the city's Museum of Jewish Culture with the hope
the family could be identified and relatives located. The head of the
Presov Jewish Museum said they went through material and compared the photos
with the Museum's historic archival photographs. >from that comparison the
Museum believes the materials belonged to the family of the Jewish Neolog
cantor Samuel Gottschall. The items were found in a house next to the
building that was the Neolog Synagogue.

Before WW 2 there were 136,000 Jews, today Slovakia has about 4,000 Jews.
Between 1942-1945 about 6,000 Jews were deported >from Presov. After the war
about 800 persons returned to Presov and then relocated to Australia, North
America, Israel and the United Kingdom.

Mr. Gottschall may have had a son who survived the war: Benjamin Bela
Vojtech - who became a rabbi. After the war he immigrated to Australia and
died in Sydney in 1978.

Any relatives who get in touch with the museum can claim the items

To read the story and see photos go to: http://tinyurl.com/ntcvmyg

Original url:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2891431/Haunting-images-grave-Chilling-family-photographs-treasured-possessions-left-Jewish-family-sent-Nazi-concentration-camp-discovered-hidden-attic-70-years-later.html

Presov is one of my ancestral towns.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


post-Ottoman business directories with wide coverage now searchable #sephardic

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Seven business directories >from 1924-1948 that largely continue an
Ottoman-era series, Annuaire Oriental, are now searchable at
http://genealogyindexer.org . Geographic coverage varies by year and
may include any of the following: Albania, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Egypt,
Greece, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Romania, Syria, Turkey, Yugoslavia,
and, to a much lesser extent, other European countries and the U.S.
These directories, as well as thirteen Ottoman directories added
earlier, and 1800+ other sources will be searched simultaneously with
the default search options. To see results >from these directories and
other recent additions first, change the "Regular Sort" option below
the search box to "New Matches First." Search results link directly
to scans of the corresponding pages on the website of SALT Research,
Istanbul.

To browse the directories, instead of searching, visit the links
listed under "Multinational," near the beginning of
http://genealogyindexer.org/directories . That list of links also
shows the geographic coverage of each directory.

Thanks to Rose Feldman for alerting me to the existence of these
directories on the SALT Research website.

Logan Kleinwaks
near Washington, D.C.
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim post-Ottoman business directories with wide coverage now searchable #sephardic

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Seven business directories >from 1924-1948 that largely continue an
Ottoman-era series, Annuaire Oriental, are now searchable at
http://genealogyindexer.org . Geographic coverage varies by year and
may include any of the following: Albania, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Egypt,
Greece, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Romania, Syria, Turkey, Yugoslavia,
and, to a much lesser extent, other European countries and the U.S.
These directories, as well as thirteen Ottoman directories added
earlier, and 1800+ other sources will be searched simultaneously with
the default search options. To see results >from these directories and
other recent additions first, change the "Regular Sort" option below
the search box to "New Matches First." Search results link directly
to scans of the corresponding pages on the website of SALT Research,
Istanbul.

To browse the directories, instead of searching, visit the links
listed under "Multinational," near the beginning of
http://genealogyindexer.org/directories . That list of links also
shows the geographic coverage of each directory.

Thanks to Rose Feldman for alerting me to the existence of these
directories on the SALT Research website.

Logan Kleinwaks
near Washington, D.C.
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu


Seeking NYC court records from 1896 #general

David W. Perle
 

Hi again, all. I found the following information about a
great-great-great-grandfather of mine, Morris SMOLEY, and was wondering if
someone might be able to direct me toward a particular New York City/County
court or other agency which might have further information about what might
have developed >from this?

New York Herald, 12/22/1896, pg 18, second column under "Business Troubles"

"The Sheriff has received three writs of replevin against Morris Smoley, who
did business as M. Smoley & Co., dealer in leather and findings at No. 62
Allen street >from Davis & Kaufman, aggregating $1,200. It was said that Mr.
Smoley has given a bill of sale of the business to his wife and transferred
a half interest in a tenement house at No. 236 Delancey street to Samuel
Nardel, of Newark.'

Thank you!

David Perle
Washington, DC
Researching PRZEGRODA, PERLE, BLUM (Cleveland), ARONOWSKY, SMOLEY/SMOLA...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking NYC court records from 1896 #general

David W. Perle
 

Hi again, all. I found the following information about a
great-great-great-grandfather of mine, Morris SMOLEY, and was wondering if
someone might be able to direct me toward a particular New York City/County
court or other agency which might have further information about what might
have developed >from this?

New York Herald, 12/22/1896, pg 18, second column under "Business Troubles"

"The Sheriff has received three writs of replevin against Morris Smoley, who
did business as M. Smoley & Co., dealer in leather and findings at No. 62
Allen street >from Davis & Kaufman, aggregating $1,200. It was said that Mr.
Smoley has given a bill of sale of the business to his wife and transferred
a half interest in a tenement house at No. 236 Delancey street to Samuel
Nardel, of Newark.'

Thank you!

David Perle
Washington, DC
Researching PRZEGRODA, PERLE, BLUM (Cleveland), ARONOWSKY, SMOLEY/SMOLA...


Overbrook Hospital in Newark, NJ area -- connected cemetery? #general

David W. Perle
 

Hi, all--I'd posted more than a year ago about my search for a
great-great-grandfather, Henry GOTTLIEB, whose 1950 death certificate shows
that he'd died at this hospital. Unfortuantely, I discovered that this was
a mental institution. He'd been there for two months. In any case, I've
been trying to find his final resting place. There are marvelous records of
Jewish burials in the Newark area, but he unfortunately is not listed among
them.

When I'd originally posted, it was suggested that the death certificate
notation of him being buried at "Hebrew-Cem" (which I've been unable to
identify in any records, by calling the modern incarnation of the funeral
home that handled his burial, and by consulting with a business that
oversees a number of Jewish cemeteries in the area today) might have
potentially referred to a section of a cemetery on the old Overbrook
Hospital grounds.

I've called the hospital and was told that there was no such cemetery.
That very well may be the case, but I thought that I might post here one
last time about this in case anyone knows that to be untrue or might have
any other insight.

Thank you!

David Perle
Washington, DC
Researching PRZEGRODA, PERLE, BLUM (Cleveland), ARONOWSKY, SMOLEY/SMOLA...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Overbrook Hospital in Newark, NJ area -- connected cemetery? #general

David W. Perle
 

Hi, all--I'd posted more than a year ago about my search for a
great-great-grandfather, Henry GOTTLIEB, whose 1950 death certificate shows
that he'd died at this hospital. Unfortuantely, I discovered that this was
a mental institution. He'd been there for two months. In any case, I've
been trying to find his final resting place. There are marvelous records of
Jewish burials in the Newark area, but he unfortunately is not listed among
them.

When I'd originally posted, it was suggested that the death certificate
notation of him being buried at "Hebrew-Cem" (which I've been unable to
identify in any records, by calling the modern incarnation of the funeral
home that handled his burial, and by consulting with a business that
oversees a number of Jewish cemeteries in the area today) might have
potentially referred to a section of a cemetery on the old Overbrook
Hospital grounds.

I've called the hospital and was told that there was no such cemetery.
That very well may be the case, but I thought that I might post here one
last time about this in case anyone knows that to be untrue or might have
any other insight.

Thank you!

David Perle
Washington, DC
Researching PRZEGRODA, PERLE, BLUM (Cleveland), ARONOWSKY, SMOLEY/SMOLA...


New Montefiore Cemetery pictures needed #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for a volunteer to take pictures of stone in a family circle
of some 10-15 graves in one area at the New Montefiore, West Babylon,
NY.

--
Neil Rosenstein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Montefiore Cemetery pictures needed #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for a volunteer to take pictures of stone in a family circle
of some 10-15 graves in one area at the New Montefiore, West Babylon,
NY.

--
Neil Rosenstein


Family Finder Success Story #general

Michael Trapunsky
 

Hi all,

I just wanted to share a FamilyFinder success story I had (the latest of
many over the years).

I recently received an email >from someone in Russia looking for his Kowarski
family >from Vilna. After going back and forth to get more information about
his family it turns out that his mother was my grandmother's 1st cousin. She
(the cousin) was one of 6 siblings and had thought she was the only one to
survive the Holocaust. It turns out that a sister and brother had also
survived and I am in touch with both their families. Unfortunately all 3
siblings have already passed away but now the first cousins are going to
meet for the first time. All because of a posting on JGFF.

Truly amazing.

Michael Trapunsky
trapunsky@verizon.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family Finder Success Story #general

Michael Trapunsky
 

Hi all,

I just wanted to share a FamilyFinder success story I had (the latest of
many over the years).

I recently received an email >from someone in Russia looking for his Kowarski
family >from Vilna. After going back and forth to get more information about
his family it turns out that his mother was my grandmother's 1st cousin. She
(the cousin) was one of 6 siblings and had thought she was the only one to
survive the Holocaust. It turns out that a sister and brother had also
survived and I am in touch with both their families. Unfortunately all 3
siblings have already passed away but now the first cousins are going to
meet for the first time. All because of a posting on JGFF.

Truly amazing.

Michael Trapunsky
trapunsky@verizon.net

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