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Re: new york research
#general
A. E. Jordan
Phyllis Kramer offered some suggestions on things to research and how to maximize
time if you are visiting NYC. I am going to elaborate a bit base on experience to help everyone maximize their time. My suggestion to anyone like the person who asked the original question, I make a wish list of what you really want to learn and then maybe work with someone to help prioritize it based on what you want and what is available where in New York City. The first caveat is that research takes longer and travel takes longer than you think it will. Add in the idiosyncrasies of some of the NYC institutions and it will take twice as long as you expect. Phyllis suggested probate which is a very good idea but in a lot of cases it can not be done in a single visit. All of the depends on borough and time frame. For probate you need to know where the person's last legal residence was because probate is by borough and where the person lived, not died. So if they died in a hospital in Manhattan but lived in Brooklyn the probate is in Brooklyn not Manhattan. (And that is a good thing for your research.) Also knowing at least the year of death is critical. Each New York City probate court works differently. In Manhattan they index is now mostly computerized but only on site. Probates >from the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and even 1960s are off site so all you can do is look up the file number in the index and place a request. If it is a small file they will scan and email it to you if they are not too busy but if it is big you need to come back a few weeks later when they get it out of storage. Or if you get lucky the file is still at the court (mostly only newer ones) or it has been put on to the computer and then you can read it and take digital pictures or print it but it is 25 cents a page. Manhattan's probate records are in the same building as the Municipal Archives on the 4th floor -- that's convenient. (Also New York County naturalization is on the 7th floor.) In Brooklyn probate is all on site (that's why I said it is a good thing) but the record room has been having staffing problems and the older files are in the basement. If there is only one clerk in the room they can not go to the basement for the older files. So you wait or come back or give up. Never files are in the room or on the computers. The index up to the 1970s is on Family Search or in cards in the room and the newer one is on a computer in the room. Queens is the best because everything is on site and can be accessed in a single visit. The Bronx the newer files are in the room and the older ones in the basement but they only go to the basement once a week so you go, put in your request, and if it is in the basement have to come back the following week. For all probates check FamilySearch and Ancestry first. Both have bits and pieces from New York City which might save you a visit. Also remember probates only existwhen there were enough assets to prompt it either in land, buildings, cash, stocks, jewelry, etc. On marriage records anything older than 50 years is public record. The City Clerk's Marriage Bureau files through 1949 are now at the Municipal Archives and the later ones can be gotten if you go to the marriage bureau and put in a request. It takes 30 to 60 minutes generally, but you can see all the happy couples getting married. Don't bother going to the Health Department ... it is just a waste of time and will aggravate you. Nothing is available in person and you can not view any of their files or indexes if you go. Cemeteries are a very good idea but they require travel outside Manhattan. A few of them (Bayside in particular) are not in very nice areas and if you do not have a car some of them are difficult to get to. NARA has a lot but a lot of it is online these days. If you need something they have to retrieve they do that every 30 or 60 minutes and you have to wait. The NY State indexes to marriage, birth and death are there but none of the vital records so if you find them in the index you still have to deal with the local authority or NY State. The New York Public Library is another place to consider. The Genealogy Room is at the 42nd Street Main Library on 5th Avenue in Manhattan. They have New York City newspapers, directories, phone books, address directories, maps and more plus a separate Jewish room. Most everything is in closed stacks, including now most of the microfilm. and it takes 30 to 60 minutes to retrieve plus you need to have a library. You can get one if you are an out of towner -- read the website for information. Unfortunately they closed the main microfilm reading room so everything is slower now, and the new room is smaller and more crowded. Even if you do not do research it is a great building to see. Another thing to consider is visit to the Tenement Museum or the Museum of Jewish Heritage. If you go to the Tenement museum you can also walk the Lower East Side but parts of it are a lot more upscale than your ancestors experienced. YIVO also has an extensive library and research center available. There are also other court files to consider including naturalization, name changes, business records, ta and property records, property photos ...... the list is long. ... and that's just the core of the opportunities in New York City. I think you can see why I say make a wish list first and review it possibly with someone who has experience to determine what will work and what is going to lead to frustration. Also check institution's websites because hours change. The Municipal Archives for example currently is offering evening hours for the first time on Thursdays. Sorry it is a long message but I wanted to add some information/considerations not just for Elena who asked about this but for everyone considering a NYC research trip. Allan Jordan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: new york research
#general
A. E. Jordan
Phyllis Kramer offered some suggestions on things to research and how to maximize
time if you are visiting NYC. I am going to elaborate a bit base on experience to help everyone maximize their time. My suggestion to anyone like the person who asked the original question, I make a wish list of what you really want to learn and then maybe work with someone to help prioritize it based on what you want and what is available where in New York City. The first caveat is that research takes longer and travel takes longer than you think it will. Add in the idiosyncrasies of some of the NYC institutions and it will take twice as long as you expect. Phyllis suggested probate which is a very good idea but in a lot of cases it can not be done in a single visit. All of the depends on borough and time frame. For probate you need to know where the person's last legal residence was because probate is by borough and where the person lived, not died. So if they died in a hospital in Manhattan but lived in Brooklyn the probate is in Brooklyn not Manhattan. (And that is a good thing for your research.) Also knowing at least the year of death is critical. Each New York City probate court works differently. In Manhattan they index is now mostly computerized but only on site. Probates >from the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and even 1960s are off site so all you can do is look up the file number in the index and place a request. If it is a small file they will scan and email it to you if they are not too busy but if it is big you need to come back a few weeks later when they get it out of storage. Or if you get lucky the file is still at the court (mostly only newer ones) or it has been put on to the computer and then you can read it and take digital pictures or print it but it is 25 cents a page. Manhattan's probate records are in the same building as the Municipal Archives on the 4th floor -- that's convenient. (Also New York County naturalization is on the 7th floor.) In Brooklyn probate is all on site (that's why I said it is a good thing) but the record room has been having staffing problems and the older files are in the basement. If there is only one clerk in the room they can not go to the basement for the older files. So you wait or come back or give up. Never files are in the room or on the computers. The index up to the 1970s is on Family Search or in cards in the room and the newer one is on a computer in the room. Queens is the best because everything is on site and can be accessed in a single visit. The Bronx the newer files are in the room and the older ones in the basement but they only go to the basement once a week so you go, put in your request, and if it is in the basement have to come back the following week. For all probates check FamilySearch and Ancestry first. Both have bits and pieces from New York City which might save you a visit. Also remember probates only existwhen there were enough assets to prompt it either in land, buildings, cash, stocks, jewelry, etc. On marriage records anything older than 50 years is public record. The City Clerk's Marriage Bureau files through 1949 are now at the Municipal Archives and the later ones can be gotten if you go to the marriage bureau and put in a request. It takes 30 to 60 minutes generally, but you can see all the happy couples getting married. Don't bother going to the Health Department ... it is just a waste of time and will aggravate you. Nothing is available in person and you can not view any of their files or indexes if you go. Cemeteries are a very good idea but they require travel outside Manhattan. A few of them (Bayside in particular) are not in very nice areas and if you do not have a car some of them are difficult to get to. NARA has a lot but a lot of it is online these days. If you need something they have to retrieve they do that every 30 or 60 minutes and you have to wait. The NY State indexes to marriage, birth and death are there but none of the vital records so if you find them in the index you still have to deal with the local authority or NY State. The New York Public Library is another place to consider. The Genealogy Room is at the 42nd Street Main Library on 5th Avenue in Manhattan. They have New York City newspapers, directories, phone books, address directories, maps and more plus a separate Jewish room. Most everything is in closed stacks, including now most of the microfilm. and it takes 30 to 60 minutes to retrieve plus you need to have a library. You can get one if you are an out of towner -- read the website for information. Unfortunately they closed the main microfilm reading room so everything is slower now, and the new room is smaller and more crowded. Even if you do not do research it is a great building to see. Another thing to consider is visit to the Tenement Museum or the Museum of Jewish Heritage. If you go to the Tenement museum you can also walk the Lower East Side but parts of it are a lot more upscale than your ancestors experienced. YIVO also has an extensive library and research center available. There are also other court files to consider including naturalization, name changes, business records, ta and property records, property photos ...... the list is long. ... and that's just the core of the opportunities in New York City. I think you can see why I say make a wish list first and review it possibly with someone who has experience to determine what will work and what is going to lead to frustration. Also check institution's websites because hours change. The Municipal Archives for example currently is offering evening hours for the first time on Thursdays. Sorry it is a long message but I wanted to add some information/considerations not just for Elena who asked about this but for everyone considering a NYC research trip. Allan Jordan
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(US) Free Access to ALL Pennsylvania Resources on American Ancestors Through May 23, 2017
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
American Ancestors by the New England Historic Genealogical Society is
offering free access to their entire Pennsylvania resources >from May 16-2, 2017. You are required to register-name, address, phone number, email, password-and it's free. To sign up go to: http://tinyurl.com/l7lv6sd Original url: https://www.americanancestors.org/join/?reg-type=free&return-url=features/pennsylvania-research Pennsylvania played an important role in American history. Tor read how to conduct research on Pennsylvania and access free educational resources go to: https://www.americanancestors.org/pennsylvania While on that page look at the various Pennsylvania Genealogy guides. Also search the Jewish Heritage's Center archives for Pennsylvania resources at: http://digitalcollections.americanancestors.org/cdm/ajhs/ On Thursday May 18 at 1:00 PM EDT American Ancestors is holding a webinar on resources for Pennsylvania Genealogy. To sign-up for the webinar go to: https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/8843237164247086338?source=website To search their Pennsylvania digital collections, go to: http://tinyurl.com/mccz4de Original url: http://digitalcollections.americanancestors.org/cdm/search/collection/p15869coll16!p15869coll20!p15869coll22!p15869coll23!p15869coll24!p15869coll14!p15869coll32/searchterm/Pennsylvania/order/nosort If you search other than the Pennsylvania records you may be invited to subscribe. I have no affiliation with American Ancestors. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US) Free Access to ALL Pennsylvania Resources on American Ancestors Through May 23, 2017
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
American Ancestors by the New England Historic Genealogical Society is
offering free access to their entire Pennsylvania resources >from May 16-2, 2017. You are required to register-name, address, phone number, email, password-and it's free. To sign up go to: http://tinyurl.com/l7lv6sd Original url: https://www.americanancestors.org/join/?reg-type=free&return-url=features/pennsylvania-research Pennsylvania played an important role in American history. Tor read how to conduct research on Pennsylvania and access free educational resources go to: https://www.americanancestors.org/pennsylvania While on that page look at the various Pennsylvania Genealogy guides. Also search the Jewish Heritage's Center archives for Pennsylvania resources at: http://digitalcollections.americanancestors.org/cdm/ajhs/ On Thursday May 18 at 1:00 PM EDT American Ancestors is holding a webinar on resources for Pennsylvania Genealogy. To sign-up for the webinar go to: https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/8843237164247086338?source=website To search their Pennsylvania digital collections, go to: http://tinyurl.com/mccz4de Original url: http://digitalcollections.americanancestors.org/cdm/search/collection/p15869coll16!p15869coll20!p15869coll22!p15869coll23!p15869coll24!p15869coll14!p15869coll32/searchterm/Pennsylvania/order/nosort If you search other than the Pennsylvania records you may be invited to subscribe. I have no affiliation with American Ancestors. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Visiting Starokonstantinov
#ukraine
philafrum
Dear Genners,
Both my maternal grandparents came >from Starokonstantinov. Before I consider traveling there, I'd appreciate knowing if there's anything tangibly Jewish there to see such as remnants of a cemetery, synagogue buildings now used for other purposes, etc. Where are the records for that town located? I assume NOT in S-K. Thanks. Evan Fishman, New Jersey, USA Mandelstein--Starokonstantinov Adelman--Krasilov Lisnitzer--Luchinets, Starokonstantinov, Izyaslav Udin--Kyiv Burstein--Radomyshl Presseisen--Ostrog MODERATOR'S NOTE: See the IAJGS Cemetery Project page at http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/starokonstantinov.html.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Visiting Starokonstantinov
#ukraine
philafrum
Dear Genners,
Both my maternal grandparents came >from Starokonstantinov. Before I consider traveling there, I'd appreciate knowing if there's anything tangibly Jewish there to see such as remnants of a cemetery, synagogue buildings now used for other purposes, etc. Where are the records for that town located? I assume NOT in S-K. Thanks. Evan Fishman, New Jersey, USA Mandelstein--Starokonstantinov Adelman--Krasilov Lisnitzer--Luchinets, Starokonstantinov, Izyaslav Udin--Kyiv Burstein--Radomyshl Presseisen--Ostrog MODERATOR'S NOTE: See the IAJGS Cemetery Project page at http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/starokonstantinov.html.
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Seek fate of Franziska JAHN nee JACOBSOHN & Fritz JAHN living in Berlin 1938
#germany
Harry Birnbrey
I have completed my family search with one exception: I have been
unable to find anything on my mother's sister Franziska (Fraenzche) JAHN geb. Jacobsohn. Her husband Fritz JAHN was not Jewish and they lived in Berlin. I know she was still alive in 1938 and I am trying to find out if she died a natural death or became a victim of the Shoah. Any help would be appreciated as this will complete my family research. Any help would be greatly appreciated by: Henry Birnbrey, Atlanta, Georgia hbirnbrey@cs.com JGID 5746
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German SIG #Germany Seek fate of Franziska JAHN nee JACOBSOHN & Fritz JAHN living in Berlin 1938
#germany
Harry Birnbrey
I have completed my family search with one exception: I have been
unable to find anything on my mother's sister Franziska (Fraenzche) JAHN geb. Jacobsohn. Her husband Fritz JAHN was not Jewish and they lived in Berlin. I know she was still alive in 1938 and I am trying to find out if she died a natural death or became a victim of the Shoah. Any help would be appreciated as this will complete my family research. Any help would be greatly appreciated by: Henry Birnbrey, Atlanta, Georgia hbirnbrey@cs.com JGID 5746
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Re: Relatives from Kupel, Russia
#general
Janette Silverman
Steve Stein wrote:
--- During the 2015 IAJGS conference in Jerusalem, I spent two days examining a decade's worth of birth records >from Starokonstantinov that had been scanned onto CDs held by the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP)in Jerusalem, looking for the births of my grandfather (ca. 1891) and my grandmother (ca. 1895). During the search, it became apparent that the records were for Starokonstantinov City, not Starokonstantinov District (Kupel would be included in the latter, not the former) --- I have been working with the leadership of Ukraine SIG to motivate CAHJP, one of their primary data sources, to locate and prioritize any such vital records or revision lists. To date, that effort has not borne any fruit. Dear Researchers: I want to add something very important to what Steve wrote so that some of the process for data acquisition becomes a little clearer. Ukraine SIG works very closely with the CAHJP and other sources to acquire records pertaining to the Jewish communities all over the area covered by the SIG (please see the Ukraine SIG website for the map of coverage -- (http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp ). Records in the archival repositories are not digitized yet. When we find out that there is a possibility of acquiring documents >from any of the archives (this depends on contracts negotiated with the archives) the general SIG response is to get anything and everything pertaining to the Jewish community >from that repository. Once the arrangements have been made with the archive, we wait. Sometimes we wait for years until the archivists have an opportunity to digitize the records and make them available. This is especially true of the data from the Zhitomir archives. We first began trying to get data >from theremany years ago. It was only 3 years ago that we began to get documents from there. We get several hundred or thousand pages at a time, which ofcourse is just a small part of what we hope to eventually acquire, translate and index for searches in the JewishGen Ukraine databases. As data becomes available, we make arrangements to acquire it. Each year, we access more records. Recently the JewishGen Discussion Group published in 3 parts a list of the towns >from which we are arranging to acquire 41,000 pages of documents. This acquisition will cost the SIG over $8,000 - we have raised approximately half of that amount already. If you would like to assist in this effort, please make a donation through JewishGen to Ukraine SIG's Digital Documents Acquisition Project. These 41,000 pages come >from the archives in Kiev, Vinnitsa, and Khmelnitskii. Last year's data set came >from Kiev, Ternopil and Zhitomir. In 2015 we received records >from Zhitomir, Khmelnitskii, Nikolaev, Ternopil and Riwne. Janette -- Dr. Janette Silverman JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator ukrainesig.coordinator@gmail.com http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Relatives from Kupel, Russia
#ukraine
Janette Silverman
Steve Stein wrote:
--- During the 2015 IAJGS conference in Jerusalem, I spent two days examining a decade's worth of birth records >from Starokonstantinov that had been scanned onto CDs held by the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP)in Jerusalem, looking for the births of my grandfather (ca. 1891) and my grandmother (ca. 1895). During the search, it became apparent that the records were for Starokonstantinov City, not Starokonstantinov District (Kupel would be included in the latter, not the former) --- I have been working with the leadership of Ukraine SIG to motivate CAHJP, one of their primary data sources, to locate and prioritize any such vital records or revision lists. To date, that effort has not borne any fruit. Dear Researchers: I want to add something very important to what Steve wrote so that some of the process for data acquisition becomes a little clearer. Ukraine SIG works very closely with the CAHJP and other sources to acquire records pertaining to the Jewish communities all over the area covered by the SIG (please see the Ukraine SIG website for the map of coverage -- (http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp ). Records in the archival repositories are not digitized yet. When we find out that there is a possibility of acquiring documents >from any of the archives (this depends on contracts negotiated with the archives) the general SIG response is to get anything and everything pertaining to the Jewish community >from that repository. Once the arrangements have been made with the archive, we wait. Sometimes we wait for years until the archivists have an opportunity to digitize the records and make them available. This is especially true of the data from the Zhitomir archives. We first began trying to get data >from theremany years ago. It was only 3 years ago that we began to get documents from there. We get several hundred or thousand pages at a time, which ofcourse is just a small part of what we hope to eventually acquire, translate and index for searches in the JewishGen Ukraine databases. As data becomes available, we make arrangements to acquire it. Each year, we access more records. Recently the JewishGen Discussion Group published in 3 parts a list of the towns >from which we are arranging to acquire 41,000 pages of documents. This acquisition will cost the SIG over $8,000 - we have raised approximately half of that amount already. If you would like to assist in this effort, please make a donation through JewishGen to Ukraine SIG's Digital Documents Acquisition Project. These 41,000 pages come >from the archives in Kiev, Vinnitsa, and Khmelnitskii. Last year's data set came >from Kiev, Ternopil and Zhitomir. In 2015 we received records >from Zhitomir, Khmelnitskii, Nikolaev, Ternopil and Riwne. Janette -- Dr. Janette Silverman JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator ukrainesig.coordinator@gmail.com http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505
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Wurtzburger family in Montreal
#rabbinic
Neil@...
Trying to make contact with family of Mirl Wurtzburger, died in 1999,
about her rabbinic ancestry through her father Isaac Grunfeld of Michalovce son of Abraham Shlomo Grunfeld -- Neil Rosenstein MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Wurtzburger family in Montreal
#rabbinic
Neil@...
Trying to make contact with family of Mirl Wurtzburger, died in 1999,
about her rabbinic ancestry through her father Isaac Grunfeld of Michalovce son of Abraham Shlomo Grunfeld -- Neil Rosenstein MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
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Re: identifying maternal vs paternal matches
#dna
Raina Accardi <rainaraina@...>
June,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
The Y-DNA test only identifies men who match your cousin through his father and all the fathers before him. Women can't pass the Y chromosome down to their children so there are no matches who are related to your cousin >from his maternal line. However, it is very possible for a match to be related to your cousin multiple ways which you may discover if you have tested his autosomal DNA. The autosomal DNA is passed down >from both the paternal and maternal lines. The reason your cousin has Y matches with different haplogroups or different subgroups is that a mutation that changes the DNA in a paternal line happens roughly every 100 years, I think, so those matches may be related very far back in time. The GD or genetic distance estimate can give you an idea of how far back in time that might be. Some of the matches may also be false matches. Hope this helps, Raina Accardi
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DNA Research #DNA Re: identifying maternal vs paternal matches
#dna
Raina Accardi <rainaraina@...>
June,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
The Y-DNA test only identifies men who match your cousin through his father and all the fathers before him. Women can't pass the Y chromosome down to their children so there are no matches who are related to your cousin >from his maternal line. However, it is very possible for a match to be related to your cousin multiple ways which you may discover if you have tested his autosomal DNA. The autosomal DNA is passed down >from both the paternal and maternal lines. The reason your cousin has Y matches with different haplogroups or different subgroups is that a mutation that changes the DNA in a paternal line happens roughly every 100 years, I think, so those matches may be related very far back in time. The GD or genetic distance estimate can give you an idea of how far back in time that might be. Some of the matches may also be false matches. Hope this helps, Raina Accardi
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Journal of Genetic Genealogy First Issue Free Online
#dna
Jan Meisels Allen
The first issue (Vol 8 #1) of the newly relaunched Journal of Genetic
Genealogy (JoGG) Is available online. "JOGG is a free open access peer reviewed journal which provides a much-needed platform for publication of articles on all aspects of genetic genealogy." Included in this issue are articles by renowned genealogy genetic experts, Blaine T. Bettinger, Ph.D., J.D. and CeCe Moore. Of special interest to Jewish genealogists is the article entitled," Evidence of early gene flow between Ashkenazi Jews and non-Jewish European in mitochondrial DNA haplogroup H7, By: Doron Yacobi and Felice L. Bedford, Ph.D.; pages 21-34, in PDF. To access the journal see: http://jogg.info/pages/current-issue.html Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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DNA Research #DNA Journal of Genetic Genealogy First Issue Free Online
#dna
Jan Meisels Allen
The first issue (Vol 8 #1) of the newly relaunched Journal of Genetic
Genealogy (JoGG) Is available online. "JOGG is a free open access peer reviewed journal which provides a much-needed platform for publication of articles on all aspects of genetic genealogy." Included in this issue are articles by renowned genealogy genetic experts, Blaine T. Bettinger, Ph.D., J.D. and CeCe Moore. Of special interest to Jewish genealogists is the article entitled," Evidence of early gene flow between Ashkenazi Jews and non-Jewish European in mitochondrial DNA haplogroup H7, By: Doron Yacobi and Felice L. Bedford, Ph.D.; pages 21-34, in PDF. To access the journal see: http://jogg.info/pages/current-issue.html Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Warning: Holocaust denier book: BOOK CITE- Jewish Emigration from the Third Reich [free download]
#germany
Yvonne Stern
MODERATOR NOTE: This book _Jewish Emigration >from the Third Reich_
is >from a Holocaust denier. You probably should *** not *** download the file. If you do, read the book with the understanding of what it is. --------------->> Dear GerSIG, The author of the book Ingrid Weckert is a Holocaust denier. I am very, very sorry for this terrible misunderstanding. I was searching for the original in German and found the following biography of Mrs. Weckert in Wikipedia. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Weckert This is very embarrassing and I'm very sorry. With my profound apologies, Yvonne Yvonne Stern, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil I apologize to GerSig Members for having sent information of a book of a Holocaust denier today.Considering the title and the subject and having browsed through the book It didn't occur to me that it could be the opposite of what I first thought. It was an unintentional mistake and for this I apologize once more. Yvonne Stern Rio de Janeiro
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German SIG #Germany Warning: Holocaust denier book: BOOK CITE- Jewish Emigration from the Third Reich [free download]
#germany
Yvonne Stern
MODERATOR NOTE: This book _Jewish Emigration >from the Third Reich_
is >from a Holocaust denier. You probably should *** not *** download the file. If you do, read the book with the understanding of what it is. --------------->> Dear GerSIG, The author of the book Ingrid Weckert is a Holocaust denier. I am very, very sorry for this terrible misunderstanding. I was searching for the original in German and found the following biography of Mrs. Weckert in Wikipedia. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Weckert This is very embarrassing and I'm very sorry. With my profound apologies, Yvonne Yvonne Stern, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil I apologize to GerSig Members for having sent information of a book of a Holocaust denier today.Considering the title and the subject and having browsed through the book It didn't occur to me that it could be the opposite of what I first thought. It was an unintentional mistake and for this I apologize once more. Yvonne Stern Rio de Janeiro
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Kupel
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Kenneth Ryesky <kenneth.ryesky@...>
In response to Steve and Marilynn's dialog on Kupel, there was a
Kapulier Synagogue in Omaha. Perhaps the Nebraska Jewish Historical Society may have some info [www.nebraskajhs.com]. Ken Ryesky
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kupel
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Kenneth Ryesky <kenneth.ryesky@...>
In response to Steve and Marilynn's dialog on Kupel, there was a
Kapulier Synagogue in Omaha. Perhaps the Nebraska Jewish Historical Society may have some info [www.nebraskajhs.com]. Ken Ryesky
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