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Re: Prussians #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Stolp? What a lovely coincidence! familysearch.org just put their Stolp
films on line. They cover 1813-1875. They're in a mix of Gothic German
and Latin letters.

Suffice it to say that, if you'd like to transcribe some of these
records for JRI-Poland and the JewishGen Germany Database, you need but
say the word.

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/447109 -- click on the camera
icons next to the film numbers.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG

On 5/29/2017 Sharan Newman sharan@hevanet.com wrote:
I'm looking > for descendants of Judah Arnoldi and johanna Drucker.
Judah was married first to another Hannah and they had at least one
son, Lewin.
My line is through the second marriage. At least two of the children,
Henrietta (Fischer) and Eva (Lissman) b. 1856, come to America. The other
two, Samuel b. 1849, and Cecelia, stayed in Stettin (I thought) but Samuel's
son, Erich, also came in the early 1900s
I have Erichs address in Stetting, but now find that part of the family
might have come >from Stolp or Preußisch Friedland (Debrzno), Pomerania,
Germany (Poland)
If anyone knows of this family or how I can access and Jewish records from
these places, I would be very grateful. I read Gothic German, if I must and
the handwriting isn?t too awful. I can't read Yiddish.


New indexing project--very little German required! #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Dear all:

As I've been mentioning, Familysearch.org has put a large set of films
on line. Among them are several that contain the official 1808
surname-adoption records for Jews west of the Rhine.

In that region there are few specifically Jewish vital records. This is
because Napoleon instituted universal civil registration in 1798.
Accordingly, the surname-adoption records are important for matching
people's pre- and post-1808 names, among other things.

These surname-adoptions differ >from those already in the NALDEX
database. Here, each family member gets a separate entry. Those for
children tend to include date and place of birth. Also, the *given* name
was often changed, because France had a list of acceptable given names.
(This is why I have an ancestor named Christine.)

And, yes, the records are mostly in French. That means no German script,
among other things. Many of the records were entered on pre-printed
forms, which makes the useful information that much easier to find.

With a bit of practice, just about anyone who remembers their first-year
French should be able to work with these films. There are pages that
were photographed ineptly and others that were torn, but for the most
part this stuff is legible.

The films contain several thousand individual entries. This is by no
means the whole set of surname-adoption records for the region,
though--many of them are still bound into vital registers that sit in
registry offices, etc. Some, we're still looking for.

Please let me know if you'd like to tackle a piece of this project!
There are cities with hundreds of entries and villages with only a dozen
or so, and all need to be transcribed. As I mentioned, the images are on
line.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG


German SIG #Germany Re: Prussians #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Stolp? What a lovely coincidence! familysearch.org just put their Stolp
films on line. They cover 1813-1875. They're in a mix of Gothic German
and Latin letters.

Suffice it to say that, if you'd like to transcribe some of these
records for JRI-Poland and the JewishGen Germany Database, you need but
say the word.

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/447109 -- click on the camera
icons next to the film numbers.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG

On 5/29/2017 Sharan Newman sharan@hevanet.com wrote:
I'm looking > for descendants of Judah Arnoldi and johanna Drucker.
Judah was married first to another Hannah and they had at least one
son, Lewin.
My line is through the second marriage. At least two of the children,
Henrietta (Fischer) and Eva (Lissman) b. 1856, come to America. The other
two, Samuel b. 1849, and Cecelia, stayed in Stettin (I thought) but Samuel's
son, Erich, also came in the early 1900s
I have Erichs address in Stetting, but now find that part of the family
might have come >from Stolp or Preußisch Friedland (Debrzno), Pomerania,
Germany (Poland)
If anyone knows of this family or how I can access and Jewish records from
these places, I would be very grateful. I read Gothic German, if I must and
the handwriting isn?t too awful. I can't read Yiddish.


German SIG #Germany New indexing project--very little German required! #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Dear all:

As I've been mentioning, Familysearch.org has put a large set of films
on line. Among them are several that contain the official 1808
surname-adoption records for Jews west of the Rhine.

In that region there are few specifically Jewish vital records. This is
because Napoleon instituted universal civil registration in 1798.
Accordingly, the surname-adoption records are important for matching
people's pre- and post-1808 names, among other things.

These surname-adoptions differ >from those already in the NALDEX
database. Here, each family member gets a separate entry. Those for
children tend to include date and place of birth. Also, the *given* name
was often changed, because France had a list of acceptable given names.
(This is why I have an ancestor named Christine.)

And, yes, the records are mostly in French. That means no German script,
among other things. Many of the records were entered on pre-printed
forms, which makes the useful information that much easier to find.

With a bit of practice, just about anyone who remembers their first-year
French should be able to work with these films. There are pages that
were photographed ineptly and others that were torn, but for the most
part this stuff is legible.

The films contain several thousand individual entries. This is by no
means the whole set of surname-adoption records for the region,
though--many of them are still bound into vital registers that sit in
registry offices, etc. Some, we're still looking for.

Please let me know if you'd like to tackle a piece of this project!
There are cities with hundreds of entries and villages with only a dozen
or so, and all need to be transcribed. As I mentioned, the images are on
line.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG


TRANSLATEUR #germany

Hank Lobbenberg
 

Dear Gersiggers,

Perhaps I'll see you at Orlando Conference in July!

I have a second cousin once removed, who lives in Cali, Colombia.
She is married to Sigfredo TRANSLATEUR, b. 1951 in Cali. I have no idea of
his parents.

I have been curious for some time about the origin of his surname without
any solid evidence.

This got me on the hunt for other TRANSLATEUR names of which I have quite a
number originating either in Poland or Germany.
If anyone can help me fill in the gaps and possibly connect Sigfredo to
others, I would be very thankful. Contact me at hank.lobben@rogers.com

Cheers, Henry Lobbenberg Toronto, ON, Canada


German SIG #Germany TRANSLATEUR #germany

Hank Lobbenberg
 

Dear Gersiggers,

Perhaps I'll see you at Orlando Conference in July!

I have a second cousin once removed, who lives in Cali, Colombia.
She is married to Sigfredo TRANSLATEUR, b. 1951 in Cali. I have no idea of
his parents.

I have been curious for some time about the origin of his surname without
any solid evidence.

This got me on the hunt for other TRANSLATEUR names of which I have quite a
number originating either in Poland or Germany.
If anyone can help me fill in the gaps and possibly connect Sigfredo to
others, I would be very thankful. Contact me at hank.lobben@rogers.com

Cheers, Henry Lobbenberg Toronto, ON, Canada


Genealogist #ukraine

bsculptor@...
 

Hi,
I am looking for a genealogist to do some family research in Kirovograd
(Elizabethgrad)in the Ukraine. I would also like to get an idea of the
cost of the initial basic research.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you
Mike

Moderator's comment: Please check out the following link
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Researchers.htm
All the information you need is in there.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Genealogist #ukraine

bsculptor@...
 

Hi,
I am looking for a genealogist to do some family research in Kirovograd
(Elizabethgrad)in the Ukraine. I would also like to get an idea of the
cost of the initial basic research.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you
Mike

Moderator's comment: Please check out the following link
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Researchers.htm
All the information you need is in there.


Photo detective help please #ukraine

Ezra Magid
 

Dear Fellow Searchers,
Please contact me if you are able to analyze a formal portrait style photo
of my wife's grandfather, Arsen MELNIK, together with 3 unidentified people.
The photo is presumed to be >from Bessarabia c. 1930.
Especially interested to know whether the cylindrical, flat top kippah worn
by Arsen MELNIK in that era suggests a particular sect or tradition.
Also useful to know whether photo was in a communal building or home.
Thank you very much!

Ezra Zalman MAGID
Mitzpe Ramon, Israel

Searching: AIDOV, CUSNIR, DOBRIANSKY, KUSHNER, MELNIK, & SHMIELOVA in
Bessarabia, Bukovina, Poland, and Ukraine.


Kerch, Crimea (Ukraine) and Novorossiysk, Russia #ukraine

Steve Stein
 

I am researching an individual who was born in Kerch, Crimea (Taurida
Guberniya) in the 1870s and is believed to have been orphaned shortly
thereafter. There is strong evidence that his children were born in
Novorossiysk, Russia between 1900 and 1905, across the Kerch Strait into
Krasnodar Krai and out of the Pale of Settlement, at least according to the
maps I have seen on Jewish Virtual Library and elsewhere. There is also a
family legend that he had some business dealings with the Czar.

What types of things would allow him to live outside the Pale at that time?
I have heard about "court Jews" who may have lived with special permission
in St. Petersburg or Moscow but not a far-flung place such as Novorossiysk.
Though it is listed as a Jewish community on JewishGen Town Finder, there is
precious little available about any Jews who may have lived there. Perhaps
there was an orphanage?

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Photo detective help please #ukraine

Ezra Magid
 

Dear Fellow Searchers,
Please contact me if you are able to analyze a formal portrait style photo
of my wife's grandfather, Arsen MELNIK, together with 3 unidentified people.
The photo is presumed to be >from Bessarabia c. 1930.
Especially interested to know whether the cylindrical, flat top kippah worn
by Arsen MELNIK in that era suggests a particular sect or tradition.
Also useful to know whether photo was in a communal building or home.
Thank you very much!

Ezra Zalman MAGID
Mitzpe Ramon, Israel

Searching: AIDOV, CUSNIR, DOBRIANSKY, KUSHNER, MELNIK, & SHMIELOVA in
Bessarabia, Bukovina, Poland, and Ukraine.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kerch, Crimea (Ukraine) and Novorossiysk, Russia #ukraine

Steve Stein
 

I am researching an individual who was born in Kerch, Crimea (Taurida
Guberniya) in the 1870s and is believed to have been orphaned shortly
thereafter. There is strong evidence that his children were born in
Novorossiysk, Russia between 1900 and 1905, across the Kerch Strait into
Krasnodar Krai and out of the Pale of Settlement, at least according to the
maps I have seen on Jewish Virtual Library and elsewhere. There is also a
family legend that he had some business dealings with the Czar.

What types of things would allow him to live outside the Pale at that time?
I have heard about "court Jews" who may have lived with special permission
in St. Petersburg or Moscow but not a far-flung place such as Novorossiysk.
Though it is listed as a Jewish community on JewishGen Town Finder, there is
precious little available about any Jews who may have lived there. Perhaps
there was an orphanage?

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ


(Russia and Ukraine) Database Includes Information on Rebels of the Russian Revolution #ukraine

Jan Meisels Allen
 

For those whose ancestors fought in the Russian Revolution you might find
this database of 106,000 men and women of interest. These people were
considered enemies of the new Communist government and were also considered
enemies of the state when they escaped by emigrating out of Russia and the
Ukraine. The database has full names, birth dates, birthplaces, death dates,
places of residents, title within the White Army, military experience and
more! The database is only Russian, but using Google translate
https://translate.google.com/ will help those who are not familiar with the
Russian language. See:
http://swolkov.org/2_baza_beloe_dvizhenie/2_baza_beloe_dvizhenie_abc-01.htm

The information on this database came >from a blog posting by Vera Miller in
Lost Russian Family, and communist era records. She provides suggestions on
how to search the Russian database, using Wikipedia for the Russian alphabet
and finding the surnames before putting them into Google Translate.

Ms. Miller also suggests using the Russian search engine Yandex for keywords
on your family.

To read her post go to:
https://lostrussianfamily.wordpress.com/category/communist-era-records-2/

Also included are other free databases on political terror, military
databases, national database of repressed of Ukraine, Soviet POW database,
Ukraine's Memory Book of soldiers and civilians who died during WW11 and a
database of over 400,000 passengers who arrived in the US >from 1834-1897 who
identified their country of original as Russian, Russian Poles, Armenians,
Finnish, Galician, Lithuanian, Polish and Ukrainian. See:
https://lostrussianfamily.wordpress.com/free-databases/

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine (Russia and Ukraine) Database Includes Information on Rebels of the Russian Revolution #ukraine

Jan Meisels Allen
 

For those whose ancestors fought in the Russian Revolution you might find
this database of 106,000 men and women of interest. These people were
considered enemies of the new Communist government and were also considered
enemies of the state when they escaped by emigrating out of Russia and the
Ukraine. The database has full names, birth dates, birthplaces, death dates,
places of residents, title within the White Army, military experience and
more! The database is only Russian, but using Google translate
https://translate.google.com/ will help those who are not familiar with the
Russian language. See:
http://swolkov.org/2_baza_beloe_dvizhenie/2_baza_beloe_dvizhenie_abc-01.htm

The information on this database came >from a blog posting by Vera Miller in
Lost Russian Family, and communist era records. She provides suggestions on
how to search the Russian database, using Wikipedia for the Russian alphabet
and finding the surnames before putting them into Google Translate.

Ms. Miller also suggests using the Russian search engine Yandex for keywords
on your family.

To read her post go to:
https://lostrussianfamily.wordpress.com/category/communist-era-records-2/

Also included are other free databases on political terror, military
databases, national database of repressed of Ukraine, Soviet POW database,
Ukraine's Memory Book of soldiers and civilians who died during WW11 and a
database of over 400,000 passengers who arrived in the US >from 1834-1897 who
identified their country of original as Russian, Russian Poles, Armenians,
Finnish, Galician, Lithuanian, Polish and Ukrainian. See:
https://lostrussianfamily.wordpress.com/free-databases/

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura County Meeting June 4-Jan Meisels Allen Speaker on How to Begin Your Genealogy #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County
(JGSCV) will meet Sunday, June 4 >from 1:30-3:30 pm at Temple Adat Elohim
2420 E Hillcrest Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA 91362.

Note: we have extended the time for the schmoozing corner to 30 minutes and
it will begin earlier at 1:00 PM

Program: How To Begin Your Genealogy

Have you been wondering how to begin your genealogy? Have you been working
on your genealogy for a while and need some ideas of where to focus next?
Whether you are new to genealogy or a seasoned genealogist there is
something for everyone to learn in this program covering family documents,
time lines, census records, immigration and naturalization records, family
photos, interviewing techniques, newspaper research.and more!

Speaker: Jan Meisels Allen is the President of the Jewish Genealogical
Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV). Jan is the
chairperson of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies (IAJGS) Public Records Access Monitoring Committee (PRAMC) since
2003. She served on the IAJGS Board of Directors >from 2004-2013, and since
2004 represents IAJGS on the Records Preservation and Access Committee
(RPAC). In 2015 she was awarded the IAJGS Volunteer of the Year award. In
2013, the National Genealogical Society (NGS) awarded Jan the President's
Citation. She speaks on records access at national genealogical conferences
and has spoken at a number of organizations on Jewish genealogy. She has
been researching her Polish, Hungarian and Galician roots for over 19 years.

Schmoozing Corner: Marion Werle will facilitate the schmoozing corner
starting at 1:00PM. This is a great opportunity to ask questions to help
direct your personal genealogy.

Traveling Library: Categories A and C books will available starting at
1:00PM. To see which books that will be at the meeting, see the JGSCV
website at: www.JGSCV.org Library, traveling.

Membership: Please renew or join JGSCV for 2017. Membership forms are on
our website, www.JGSCV.org under "about" and will be available at the
meeting. Anyone may join JGSCV. Annual dues are $25 for an individual and
$30 for a family.

The Jewish Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County is
dedicated to sharing genealogical information, techniques and research tools
with anyone interested in genealogy and family history. The meeting is
open, without charge, to anyone interested in attending.

For information on JGSCV including directions, please visit our website at:
www.jgscv.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura County Meeting June 4-Jan Meisels Allen Speaker on How to Begin Your Genealogy #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County
(JGSCV) will meet Sunday, June 4 >from 1:30-3:30 pm at Temple Adat Elohim
2420 E Hillcrest Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA 91362.

Note: we have extended the time for the schmoozing corner to 30 minutes and
it will begin earlier at 1:00 PM

Program: How To Begin Your Genealogy

Have you been wondering how to begin your genealogy? Have you been working
on your genealogy for a while and need some ideas of where to focus next?
Whether you are new to genealogy or a seasoned genealogist there is
something for everyone to learn in this program covering family documents,
time lines, census records, immigration and naturalization records, family
photos, interviewing techniques, newspaper research.and more!

Speaker: Jan Meisels Allen is the President of the Jewish Genealogical
Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV). Jan is the
chairperson of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies (IAJGS) Public Records Access Monitoring Committee (PRAMC) since
2003. She served on the IAJGS Board of Directors >from 2004-2013, and since
2004 represents IAJGS on the Records Preservation and Access Committee
(RPAC). In 2015 she was awarded the IAJGS Volunteer of the Year award. In
2013, the National Genealogical Society (NGS) awarded Jan the President's
Citation. She speaks on records access at national genealogical conferences
and has spoken at a number of organizations on Jewish genealogy. She has
been researching her Polish, Hungarian and Galician roots for over 19 years.

Schmoozing Corner: Marion Werle will facilitate the schmoozing corner
starting at 1:00PM. This is a great opportunity to ask questions to help
direct your personal genealogy.

Traveling Library: Categories A and C books will available starting at
1:00PM. To see which books that will be at the meeting, see the JGSCV
website at: www.JGSCV.org Library, traveling.

Membership: Please renew or join JGSCV for 2017. Membership forms are on
our website, www.JGSCV.org under "about" and will be available at the
meeting. Anyone may join JGSCV. Annual dues are $25 for an individual and
$30 for a family.

The Jewish Genealogical Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County is
dedicated to sharing genealogical information, techniques and research tools
with anyone interested in genealogy and family history. The meeting is
open, without charge, to anyone interested in attending.

For information on JGSCV including directions, please visit our website at:
www.jgscv.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV


New Articles on IGRA website "Theatrical_Ancestor?" by Daniel Wagner? #general

Elena Bazes
 

IGRA (Israel Genealogy Research Association) has posted a new article
on its website entitled "Theatrical Ancestors" by Daniel Wagner

In this article, Daniel writes about the various challenges he faced
researching his family. Many of his relatives were actors who changed
their names, both first and last, and ages on several occasions, as
was common in the theatrical world. These changes occurred in Europe,
the United States and in Israel.

Daniel Wagner is a professor of Materials Science at the Weizmann
Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel. He has been researching his
family since 1995.

Before viewing the article, please register for free on the IGRA website

http://genealogy.org.il/

The article is available for free for approximately one week, after
which time it can only be accessed by IGRA members.

To view the article go to:

http://genealogy.org.il/2017/05/28/theatrical-ancestors-daniel-wagner/

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chairperson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Articles on IGRA website "Theatrical_Ancestor?" by Daniel Wagner? #general

Elena Bazes
 

IGRA (Israel Genealogy Research Association) has posted a new article
on its website entitled "Theatrical Ancestors" by Daniel Wagner

In this article, Daniel writes about the various challenges he faced
researching his family. Many of his relatives were actors who changed
their names, both first and last, and ages on several occasions, as
was common in the theatrical world. These changes occurred in Europe,
the United States and in Israel.

Daniel Wagner is a professor of Materials Science at the Weizmann
Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel. He has been researching his
family since 1995.

Before viewing the article, please register for free on the IGRA website

http://genealogy.org.il/

The article is available for free for approximately one week, after
which time it can only be accessed by IGRA members.

To view the article go to:

http://genealogy.org.il/2017/05/28/theatrical-ancestors-daniel-wagner/

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chairperson


Re: Need help finding 1909-1910 passenger manifest - Thanks #general

Barry Broude <broudeb@...>
 

Wow, you Jewishgenners are so good. I am amazed at all the help I received.
Thank you, thank you.

It seems there are secret ways to use wild cards. I put too many consonants
in the name field, the actual manifest was Lirel MORGENSTER. There was no
final "n." She sailed >from Antwerp February 22, 1910, age 18 >from Greiding,
Russia originally-- to St. John West, New Brunswick. There is an Alien
Registration card for her also >from where she entered the US at Sault Ste.
Marie, Michigan.

She basically came the same route as my grandma and was living in the same
town when they were orphaned and moved in with cousins in Greiding, which
is 20 miles or so West of their home town of Touste, Galicia. Grandma told
me they lived on the Russian border, but now of course it is the middle of
Ukraine. New mystery now is who are the relatives she lived with in
Greiding? Grandma lived with first cousins Perl and Sam Furman who brought
her to Minneapolis in 1906.

In addition, somebody found the naturalization papers for her husband with
the certificate of arrival and Nathan HASELNUS was Chune on the ship. Well,
not exactly. It may be correct but Ancestry has him as something else to
be found but I have the name of the ship and the port and the date of
arrival: August 2, 1913 SS Brandenberg, Bremen to Philadelphia.

Couldn't find this today but I know how since I have date, port and ship.
Stevemorse.org of course.

Anyway I am writing to thank all the people who put in such generous
support and help. Someone found them all in the 1915 Poughkeepsie Census
with Celia spelled "Sla" .

So my hard earned lesson is don't give up, the record exists but you just
don't know how the name is spelled in the database.

I think I have thanked everyone individually. If I have missed anyone,
then Todah, thank you with all my heart.

Barry Broude


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need help finding 1909-1910 passenger manifest - Thanks #general

Barry Broude <broudeb@...>
 

Wow, you Jewishgenners are so good. I am amazed at all the help I received.
Thank you, thank you.

It seems there are secret ways to use wild cards. I put too many consonants
in the name field, the actual manifest was Lirel MORGENSTER. There was no
final "n." She sailed >from Antwerp February 22, 1910, age 18 >from Greiding,
Russia originally-- to St. John West, New Brunswick. There is an Alien
Registration card for her also >from where she entered the US at Sault Ste.
Marie, Michigan.

She basically came the same route as my grandma and was living in the same
town when they were orphaned and moved in with cousins in Greiding, which
is 20 miles or so West of their home town of Touste, Galicia. Grandma told
me they lived on the Russian border, but now of course it is the middle of
Ukraine. New mystery now is who are the relatives she lived with in
Greiding? Grandma lived with first cousins Perl and Sam Furman who brought
her to Minneapolis in 1906.

In addition, somebody found the naturalization papers for her husband with
the certificate of arrival and Nathan HASELNUS was Chune on the ship. Well,
not exactly. It may be correct but Ancestry has him as something else to
be found but I have the name of the ship and the port and the date of
arrival: August 2, 1913 SS Brandenberg, Bremen to Philadelphia.

Couldn't find this today but I know how since I have date, port and ship.
Stevemorse.org of course.

Anyway I am writing to thank all the people who put in such generous
support and help. Someone found them all in the 1915 Poughkeepsie Census
with Celia spelled "Sla" .

So my hard earned lesson is don't give up, the record exists but you just
don't know how the name is spelled in the database.

I think I have thanked everyone individually. If I have missed anyone,
then Todah, thank you with all my heart.

Barry Broude

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