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Offering for Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn NY
#general
A. E. Jordan
I think I am going to visit Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and if I do I would
be happy to do research for people. The earliest I would go is September 10th and of course that is weather dependent. I maybe a little crazy but let's see how many people are looking for help at Washington Cemetery. It is very large encompassing four separate areas as I recall. I have not been there in a long time now. And when I go I don't have helpers with me at the cemeteries. Washington does not have a database as I recall either so everything has to be done with the office which might mean I can not do as much as I have done at some of the other cemeteries. It will be dependent on the information I have and the kindness of the office. If you want to make a request maybe you could do a little of the leg work and call the cemetery office (if you do not have the information) and get the exact location of the grave. I need to know which cemetery -- they are numbered -- the plot name and location and any information they can give about the grave. If you are sending me a request, **please**, be specific. Recently someone sent me a family name and a society name and no date of death, no first name, etc. for the person. I checked and rechecked at the cemetery office and there was no one with that spelling and the society had four plots encompassing a few hundred graves. I felt bad but I could not help the person because they had not given me enough information. I am pretty good at location and photographing graves. My biggest problem is when all the stones are in Hebrew because it is hard for me to hunt for the single person then. I do appreciate a few dollars >from each person who makes the request to help offset the expenses. Unfortunately the gasoline alone is adding up on these trips so it helps me to keep doing this for everyone. Allan Jordan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Offering for Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn NY
#general
A. E. Jordan
I think I am going to visit Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and if I do I would
be happy to do research for people. The earliest I would go is September 10th and of course that is weather dependent. I maybe a little crazy but let's see how many people are looking for help at Washington Cemetery. It is very large encompassing four separate areas as I recall. I have not been there in a long time now. And when I go I don't have helpers with me at the cemeteries. Washington does not have a database as I recall either so everything has to be done with the office which might mean I can not do as much as I have done at some of the other cemeteries. It will be dependent on the information I have and the kindness of the office. If you want to make a request maybe you could do a little of the leg work and call the cemetery office (if you do not have the information) and get the exact location of the grave. I need to know which cemetery -- they are numbered -- the plot name and location and any information they can give about the grave. If you are sending me a request, **please**, be specific. Recently someone sent me a family name and a society name and no date of death, no first name, etc. for the person. I checked and rechecked at the cemetery office and there was no one with that spelling and the society had four plots encompassing a few hundred graves. I felt bad but I could not help the person because they had not given me enough information. I am pretty good at location and photographing graves. My biggest problem is when all the stones are in Hebrew because it is hard for me to hunt for the single person then. I do appreciate a few dollars >from each person who makes the request to help offset the expenses. Unfortunately the gasoline alone is adding up on these trips so it helps me to keep doing this for everyone. Allan Jordan
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Sidney NASSENFELD Life / Descendants
#general
A. E. Jordan
I know this is a bit of a long shot but is there anyone researching or related
to Sidney NASSENFELD born in Przmysel in 1897? He arrived in the USA in 1913 as Samuel NASSENFELD, married Sadie ENTE in New York in the 1920s and had two daughter Lenore born circa 1922 and Ethel Ann born circa 1928. Sidney Nassenfeld died in 1965 in New York. Daughter Lenore appeared to have married names of Felder and Kelelrman and died in 1994. Daughter Ethel Ann appears to be married to a Meyrowitz later Morrow and died in 2002. Please contact me if you have information on Sidney NASSENFELD's life. Thank you. Allan Jordan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sidney NASSENFELD Life / Descendants
#general
A. E. Jordan
I know this is a bit of a long shot but is there anyone researching or related
to Sidney NASSENFELD born in Przmysel in 1897? He arrived in the USA in 1913 as Samuel NASSENFELD, married Sadie ENTE in New York in the 1920s and had two daughter Lenore born circa 1922 and Ethel Ann born circa 1928. Sidney Nassenfeld died in 1965 in New York. Daughter Lenore appeared to have married names of Felder and Kelelrman and died in 1994. Daughter Ethel Ann appears to be married to a Meyrowitz later Morrow and died in 2002. Please contact me if you have information on Sidney NASSENFELD's life. Thank you. Allan Jordan
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Ancestry Free Access to Occupation Records Through Monday September 4
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Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry is offering free access to their occupation records to honor Labor
Day. This includes US census records that include occupations. Free access is through Monday September 4 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time. To view the list of records in the featured collections go to: http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/labor_day You will be required to register. No credit card information will be requested. To search go to http://www.ancestry.com/cs/labor-day If you try to access the featured collection after the cut off time or try to access any non-featured collection you will be invited to subscribe. The results page will have green free access buttons. When you click on that the record will open. If you want to save it to your computer do a print screen to your computer's photography program. If you click on any other "sign up to save this record", or "discover your family story with a FREE trial" you will be invited to subscribe. I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ancestry Free Access to Occupation Records Through Monday September 4
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry is offering free access to their occupation records to honor Labor
Day. This includes US census records that include occupations. Free access is through Monday September 4 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time. To view the list of records in the featured collections go to: http://search.ancestry.com/search/group/labor_day You will be required to register. No credit card information will be requested. To search go to http://www.ancestry.com/cs/labor-day If you try to access the featured collection after the cut off time or try to access any non-featured collection you will be invited to subscribe. The results page will have green free access buttons. When you click on that the record will open. If you want to save it to your computer do a print screen to your computer's photography program. If you click on any other "sign up to save this record", or "discover your family story with a FREE trial" you will be invited to subscribe. I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Passenger lists for Royal Holland Lloyd ship company 1923
#general
Alberto Guido Chester
Dear Genners
Does anyone know of the existance of list of passengers or other files of the Royal Holland LLoyd or Koninklijke Hollandsche Lloyd ? They owned the ship Oranias which travelled since 1922 >from Cherbourg, Southampton to South America. I do have pictures of the ship, its fares and its sinking. I am looking for the possibilities of finding a passenger who embarked in Cherbourg, probay in Dec. 1923. Thanks in advance. Alberto Guido Chester Buenos Aires, Argentina
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger lists for Royal Holland Lloyd ship company 1923
#general
Alberto Guido Chester
Dear Genners
Does anyone know of the existance of list of passengers or other files of the Royal Holland LLoyd or Koninklijke Hollandsche Lloyd ? They owned the ship Oranias which travelled since 1922 >from Cherbourg, Southampton to South America. I do have pictures of the ship, its fares and its sinking. I am looking for the possibilities of finding a passenger who embarked in Cherbourg, probay in Dec. 1923. Thanks in advance. Alberto Guido Chester Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Problems uploading 23andMe to Gedmatch
#dna
Linda Berkowitz
I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22 chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with three different kits. Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have already deleted and uploaded the kits. Linda Berkowitz Deerfield, IL
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DNA Research #DNA Problems uploading 23andMe to Gedmatch
#dna
Linda Berkowitz
I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22 chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with three different kits. Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have already deleted and uploaded the kits. Linda Berkowitz Deerfield, IL
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OPPENHEIMERs of 16-17th century Worms
#germany
David Dubin <davidmdubin@...>
Hi all,
Please help with some stumbling blocks in two families >from which many of us are descended: the OPPENHEIMERs and the BALLINs of Worms, Germany. Please help me understand the following about the OPPENHEIMERs: 1- Ettlinger's Ele Toldot, a fantastic source of information about Frankfurt Jewry of the 12th -18th centuries, has two contemporary listings for Loeb OPPENHEIMER, one (died 1574) who was the son of Majer & Gutlin and who became an apostate named Paulus Renatus, and one (died 1572 or 1573) without parents listed who was married to Sorle. All OPPENHEIMER trees that I have come across seem to conflate the two, making one person, married to Sorle and son of Majer & Gutlin, thereby extending the ancestor tree a few more generations. Where is the source for doing so? 2- In the Gruener buch >from Worms (Rosenthal's transcription), two major figures named (Simon) Wolf OPPENHEIM appear. Both are lauded in the highest terms. One died in 1596, and one was likely born in about that year (his parents Josef Jehuda and Frumet married in the 1590s) and died in 1664. The latter is the grandfather of his namesake of even greater renown, the banker who died in Hanover in 1726. It stands to reason that there was a family connection between the two earlier Simon Wolfs, and it even is likely that the second was named for the first. Yet I see no listing of the earlier Simon Wolf in any OPPENHEIMER tree. Does anyone know where he belongs in the family? Thank you for your help. I will ask about my BALLIN issues in a subsequent post. David Dubin, Teaneck, NJ davidmdubin@gmail.com
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German SIG #Germany OPPENHEIMERs of 16-17th century Worms
#germany
David Dubin <davidmdubin@...>
Hi all,
Please help with some stumbling blocks in two families >from which many of us are descended: the OPPENHEIMERs and the BALLINs of Worms, Germany. Please help me understand the following about the OPPENHEIMERs: 1- Ettlinger's Ele Toldot, a fantastic source of information about Frankfurt Jewry of the 12th -18th centuries, has two contemporary listings for Loeb OPPENHEIMER, one (died 1574) who was the son of Majer & Gutlin and who became an apostate named Paulus Renatus, and one (died 1572 or 1573) without parents listed who was married to Sorle. All OPPENHEIMER trees that I have come across seem to conflate the two, making one person, married to Sorle and son of Majer & Gutlin, thereby extending the ancestor tree a few more generations. Where is the source for doing so? 2- In the Gruener buch >from Worms (Rosenthal's transcription), two major figures named (Simon) Wolf OPPENHEIM appear. Both are lauded in the highest terms. One died in 1596, and one was likely born in about that year (his parents Josef Jehuda and Frumet married in the 1590s) and died in 1664. The latter is the grandfather of his namesake of even greater renown, the banker who died in Hanover in 1726. It stands to reason that there was a family connection between the two earlier Simon Wolfs, and it even is likely that the second was named for the first. Yet I see no listing of the earlier Simon Wolf in any OPPENHEIMER tree. Does anyone know where he belongs in the family? Thank you for your help. I will ask about my BALLIN issues in a subsequent post. David Dubin, Teaneck, NJ davidmdubin@gmail.com
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Re: proving a close relationship
#dna
Michael Goldsmith <michaelg32@...>
Israel Pickholtz shows one unique way that a false positive might occur.
This emphasizes why an approach based on the statistically expected amount of shared DNA can never give a certain answer. I've also been surprised with negative DNA results in cases where lots of circumstantial evidence seems to show a definite relationship. I suspect that a lot of that may be due to orphans gratefully adopting the surnames of the family that took them in. After all, with the wars and epidemics that were prevalent in Europe, there must have been many cases of informal adoption. Michael Goldsmith Michaelg32@comcast.net
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DNA Research #DNA Re:proving a close relationship
#dna
Michael Goldsmith <michaelg32@...>
Israel Pickholtz shows one unique way that a false positive might occur.
This emphasizes why an approach based on the statistically expected amount of shared DNA can never give a certain answer. I've also been surprised with negative DNA results in cases where lots of circumstantial evidence seems to show a definite relationship. I suspect that a lot of that may be due to orphans gratefully adopting the surnames of the family that took them in. After all, with the wars and epidemics that were prevalent in Europe, there must have been many cases of informal adoption. Michael Goldsmith Michaelg32@comcast.net
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BECKER Family Tree
#general
WALTER SPECTOR
Hello Genners,
I am trying to make a connection with Michele whose maiden name is Becker and her husband's name is Scott. She made a contact with my second cousin who is a Becker. His grandfather and my grandmother were brother and sister. Our great grandfather had a brother who was Max or Michael. That might be the link to Michele. I have many brick wall questions about Michael's family. I have posted a message to Michele via Ancestry's message function but have not yet received a response. All assistance is greatly appreciated, Walter Spector Philadelphia
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BECKER Family Tree
#general
WALTER SPECTOR
Hello Genners,
I am trying to make a connection with Michele whose maiden name is Becker and her husband's name is Scott. She made a contact with my second cousin who is a Becker. His grandfather and my grandmother were brother and sister. Our great grandfather had a brother who was Max or Michael. That might be the link to Michele. I have many brick wall questions about Michael's family. I have posted a message to Michele via Ancestry's message function but have not yet received a response. All assistance is greatly appreciated, Walter Spector Philadelphia
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Kehilalinks sites under development
#ukraine
mirnmike@...
I am beginning the process to develop Kehilalinks sites for two towns in the
Ukraine: Shepetivka (which our ancestors knew as Shepetovka), and Bilohirya (which our ancestors knew as Lechovitz). Please contact me if you have any pertinent information. Examples would include photos taken in these towns (including family photos), travelogs, directories, articles, letters or postcards sent >from these towns, and brief family histories. You can reach me at mirkir59@gmail.com. Thanks! Miriam Kirshner San Diego Researching NOVOSELSKY >from Shepetova, CHEICHENITZ >from Lechovitz, GELLMAN from Sudilkov, KIRSHNER >from Kishinev and/or ZHITOMER, and WALZER fromMielnica.
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The September issue of the "Galitzianer"
#ukraine
Gesher Galicia SIG
Gesher Galicia is pleased to release the September 2017 issue of the
"Galitzianer." The featured articles in the current issue are: from the Editor's Desk by Andrew ZalewskiResearch Corner (Vital Records, Holocaust and Jewish Taxpayers Projects) by Tony Kahane Project Updates (Josephine & Franciscan Surveys and Jewish Marriage Permissions 1807) by Andrew Zalewski Brody's Memorial Books by Boerries Kuzmany World War II in the Interview with Julian Bussgang Synagogues of Galicia and Bukovina by Sergey Kravtsov Map Corner by Jay Osborn Gesher Galicia-AGAD Symposium by Tony Kahane 38th Jewish Genealogy Conference by Michal Majewski We hope you will enjoy the new issue of the journal. The "Galitzianer" is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia. Andrew Zalewski Editor, the Galitzianer The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS. Send all inquiries to info@geshergalicia.org
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kehilalinks sites under development
#ukraine
mirnmike@...
I am beginning the process to develop Kehilalinks sites for two towns in the
Ukraine: Shepetivka (which our ancestors knew as Shepetovka), and Bilohirya (which our ancestors knew as Lechovitz). Please contact me if you have any pertinent information. Examples would include photos taken in these towns (including family photos), travelogs, directories, articles, letters or postcards sent >from these towns, and brief family histories. You can reach me at mirkir59@gmail.com. Thanks! Miriam Kirshner San Diego Researching NOVOSELSKY >from Shepetova, CHEICHENITZ >from Lechovitz, GELLMAN from Sudilkov, KIRSHNER >from Kishinev and/or ZHITOMER, and WALZER fromMielnica.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine The September issue of the "Galitzianer"
#ukraine
Gesher Galicia SIG
Gesher Galicia is pleased to release the September 2017 issue of the
"Galitzianer." The featured articles in the current issue are: from the Editor's Desk by Andrew ZalewskiResearch Corner (Vital Records, Holocaust and Jewish Taxpayers Projects) by Tony Kahane Project Updates (Josephine & Franciscan Surveys and Jewish Marriage Permissions 1807) by Andrew Zalewski Brody's Memorial Books by Boerries Kuzmany World War II in the Interview with Julian Bussgang Synagogues of Galicia and Bukovina by Sergey Kravtsov Map Corner by Jay Osborn Gesher Galicia-AGAD Symposium by Tony Kahane 38th Jewish Genealogy Conference by Michal Majewski We hope you will enjoy the new issue of the journal. The "Galitzianer" is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia. Andrew Zalewski Editor, the Galitzianer The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS. Send all inquiries to info@geshergalicia.org
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