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Information and photos required to Update Jekabpils kehilalink #latvia

Arlene Beare
 

I have not updated my Jekabpils Kehilalink for a number of years. If you
have any family connections to Jekabpils I would love to hear >from you. I
would be happy to put photos of Ancestors on the Ancestors photos page. The
photos should be in jpg format and not of living persons. If you have
travelled to Jekabpils and have photos or information about your trip please
send them to me.
Prior to the 1917 Russian revolution, Kreutzburg (Krustpils), a small
shtetl, was located in the Latvian part of the Pale of Settlement and
Jekabpils, a large town, was outside the Pale. They were separated by the
Daugava River. Jekabpils fell under Courland and Krustspils under Vitebsk.
After 1917, the Pale was done away with and Kreutzburg (Krustpils) became
part of Jekabpils. I am happy to include photos or information relating to
Krustpils on the Jekabpils page.

Arlene Beare UK
Dorfman (born Birzai Lithuania and then lived in Riga)
Scher/Blum(born Pandelys Lithuania and then lived in Riga)
Berman (born Lygumai Lithuania and then lived in Jekabpils Latvia
Samuels - Benjamin and brother Joseph Poland Krakow and Zychlin
Dembinski Zychlin
Ring Poland
Latvia SIG #Latvia Information and photos required to Update Jekabpils kehilalink #latvia

Arlene Beare
 

I have not updated my Jekabpils Kehilalink for a number of years. If you
have any family connections to Jekabpils I would love to hear >from you. I
would be happy to put photos of Ancestors on the Ancestors photos page. The
photos should be in jpg format and not of living persons. If you have
travelled to Jekabpils and have photos or information about your trip please
send them to me.
Prior to the 1917 Russian revolution, Kreutzburg (Krustpils), a small
shtetl, was located in the Latvian part of the Pale of Settlement and
Jekabpils, a large town, was outside the Pale. They were separated by the
Daugava River. Jekabpils fell under Courland and Krustspils under Vitebsk.
After 1917, the Pale was done away with and Kreutzburg (Krustpils) became
part of Jekabpils. I am happy to include photos or information relating to
Krustpils on the Jekabpils page.

Arlene Beare UK
Dorfman (born Birzai Lithuania and then lived in Riga)
Scher/Blum(born Pandelys Lithuania and then lived in Riga)
Berman (born Lygumai Lithuania and then lived in Jekabpils Latvia
Samuels - Benjamin and brother Joseph Poland Krakow and Zychlin
Dembinski Zychlin
Ring Poland
RE Problems uploading 23andMe to Gedmatch #dna

Adam Cherson
 

Dear Linda,

I just heard that 23andme has a new test chip so this may have something
to do with the snafu. Check with gedmatch for guidance on uploading from
the new chip.

Best,
Adam Cherson

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Berkowitz <e-berkowitz@live.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 19:15:28 +0000

I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot
be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22
chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think
there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with
three different kits.

Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have
already deleted and uploaded the kits.
DNA Research #DNA RE Problems uploading 23andMe to Gedmatch #dna

Adam Cherson
 

Dear Linda,

I just heard that 23andme has a new test chip so this may have something
to do with the snafu. Check with gedmatch for guidance on uploading from
the new chip.

Best,
Adam Cherson

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Berkowitz <e-berkowitz@live.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 19:15:28 +0000

I have twice uploaded three family kits >from 23andMe to Gedmatch. Each
time there is a problem during the tokenization process The kits cannot
be completely processed because of problems on the 17, 19, 21, and 22
chromosomes. If this was a problem with just one kit I might think
there was a problem with the sample but this is the same problem with
three different kits.

Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions on how to handle this? I have
already deleted and uploaded the kits.
Re: proving a close relationship #dna

Arnold Chamove <arnoldchamove@...>
 

In Scotland, it is not uncommon for a grandmother (or an aunt) to be given a
child to raise (in the cases I knew, where the mother was very young), and
the child never knew or only discovered when an adult that her older sister
was her mother.
Arnold Chamove
Palmerston North, NZ
---
After all, with the wars and epidemics that were prevalent in Europe, there
must have been many cases of informal adoption.[asc] Michael Goldsmith[asc]
Michaelg32@comcast.net
DNA Research #DNA Re: proving a close relationship #dna

Arnold Chamove <arnoldchamove@...>
 

In Scotland, it is not uncommon for a grandmother (or an aunt) to be given a
child to raise (in the cases I knew, where the mother was very young), and
the child never knew or only discovered when an adult that her older sister
was her mother.
Arnold Chamove
Palmerston North, NZ
---
After all, with the wars and epidemics that were prevalent in Europe, there
must have been many cases of informal adoption.[asc] Michael Goldsmith[asc]
Michaelg32@comcast.net
Pronunciation: 'Tch' or 'K'? E.g., Charles or Karl? Chausmer, Zausmer or Kazimerz? #general

Joyaa Antares
 

Hi All,

JewishGen's Town Finder gives just ONE option for "Zausmer" - Sandomierz.
The Finder says this was "Tsoyzmer" in Yiddish, so the match seems good.
The Jewish Encyclopedia refers to "Jacob David ben Isaac", a Polish Masorite
of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries; "rabbi of Zausmer, near Cracow".
Sandomierz is nowhere near Cracow.

The Town Finder gives **four** options for "Causmer", including Sandomierz,
Kazimierz, Kazmierz Dolny and Kazmierza Wielka. Kazmierz is very close to
Cracow. It is about 125 miles or 200 km >from Sandomierz.

How could a town name be both Kazmierz and Zausmer? Does this have
something to do with whether the town is named in German, Russian or
Yiddish? (The answer is not immediately apparent >from the Town Finder,
because it doesn't list "Kazmierz" as an option for Zausmer).

Many thanks, Joyaa ANTARES

Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia

Researching ZAUSMER, ZOUSMER, ZESMER, CHOUSMER, CHAUSMER, TSOUZMER etc,
MARCUS, DAVIDOFF in Polangen, Kretinga, Darbenai, Libau, Riga, Memel

MODERATOR NOTE: The Town Finder is now known as the Communities Database.
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pronunciation: 'Tch' or 'K'? E.g., Charles or Karl? Chausmer, Zausmer or Kazimerz? #general

Joyaa Antares
 

Hi All,

JewishGen's Town Finder gives just ONE option for "Zausmer" - Sandomierz.
The Finder says this was "Tsoyzmer" in Yiddish, so the match seems good.
The Jewish Encyclopedia refers to "Jacob David ben Isaac", a Polish Masorite
of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries; "rabbi of Zausmer, near Cracow".
Sandomierz is nowhere near Cracow.

The Town Finder gives **four** options for "Causmer", including Sandomierz,
Kazimierz, Kazmierz Dolny and Kazmierza Wielka. Kazmierz is very close to
Cracow. It is about 125 miles or 200 km >from Sandomierz.

How could a town name be both Kazmierz and Zausmer? Does this have
something to do with whether the town is named in German, Russian or
Yiddish? (The answer is not immediately apparent >from the Town Finder,
because it doesn't list "Kazmierz" as an option for Zausmer).

Many thanks, Joyaa ANTARES

Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia

Researching ZAUSMER, ZOUSMER, ZESMER, CHOUSMER, CHAUSMER, TSOUZMER etc,
MARCUS, DAVIDOFF in Polangen, Kretinga, Darbenai, Libau, Riga, Memel

MODERATOR NOTE: The Town Finder is now known as the Communities Database.
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp
GRUENHUT Quest - Thank you! #germany

Hank Lobbenberg
 

I want to thank all those who responded to my request for GRUENHUT family
names. I have succeeded in adding quite a few more families.
To my astonishment, there is a connection to another rabbinical lineage:
LURIA.

An early Shanah Tova and All the very best, Henry Lobbenberg, Toronto
ViewMate translation request - German #germany

Tony Chakurian
 

Dear Friends,

I've posted a vital record for the Wolfsbruck family in German for which I
need a complete translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM59007

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >
Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen
and GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors/
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp

Tony Chakurian Roseville, California
German SIG #Germany GRUENHUT Quest - Thank you! #germany

Hank Lobbenberg
 

I want to thank all those who responded to my request for GRUENHUT family
names. I have succeeded in adding quite a few more families.
To my astonishment, there is a connection to another rabbinical lineage:
LURIA.

An early Shanah Tova and All the very best, Henry Lobbenberg, Toronto
German SIG #Germany ViewMate translation request - German #germany

Tony Chakurian
 

Dear Friends,

I've posted a vital record for the Wolfsbruck family in German for which I
need a complete translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM59007

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >
Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen
and GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors/
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp

Tony Chakurian Roseville, California
Searching for lost cousins, PICARD, Germany to Palestine #germany

Ruth & Bruce Lynn <lynn33@...>
 

Hello,

I've recently discovered that one of my father's cousins
and her family did not die in the Holocaust, but escaped Germany to
Palestine around 1936, but we haven=E2=80=99t been able to trace the
since the 1950s.

Dr. Ernst Jakob PICARD (born 1887 in Konstanz, Germany) and his wife,
Minna Edith RUSS PICARD (born 1891 in Berlin), and their children, Heinz
Helmuth (b. 1914) and C. W. (I don't know his or her name),
lived in Tel Aviv in the late 1930s, 1940s, and the
1950s. The father was visiting London when he died in 1959,
and C.W. signed the death certificate.

Is there any way to discover whether there are any living descendants of
these cousins?

Thanks very much for any suggestions.

Ruth Nadelman Lynn, Lexington, Mass. lynn33@rcn.com
German SIG #Germany Searching for lost cousins, PICARD, Germany to Palestine #germany

Ruth & Bruce Lynn <lynn33@...>
 

Hello,

I've recently discovered that one of my father's cousins
and her family did not die in the Holocaust, but escaped Germany to
Palestine around 1936, but we haven=E2=80=99t been able to trace the
since the 1950s.

Dr. Ernst Jakob PICARD (born 1887 in Konstanz, Germany) and his wife,
Minna Edith RUSS PICARD (born 1891 in Berlin), and their children, Heinz
Helmuth (b. 1914) and C. W. (I don't know his or her name),
lived in Tel Aviv in the late 1930s, 1940s, and the
1950s. The father was visiting London when he died in 1959,
and C.W. signed the death certificate.

Is there any way to discover whether there are any living descendants of
these cousins?

Thanks very much for any suggestions.

Ruth Nadelman Lynn, Lexington, Mass. lynn33@rcn.com
Re: OPPENHEIMERs of 16-17th century Worms #germany

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer
 

Please answer to the list about this. As David says, there are many
others of us who are interested.

As for his first question, based on Ele Toldot, it seems pretty clear
that there are two men named Loeb OPPENHEIMER (with some variations
for both of them). I'm afraid that the genealogies that conflate the
two come >from people not paying attention to all the details of the
men and working on the unreliable principle of "same name, must be
same person" (sigh.....).

Peace, Christine Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer, Hyde Park, NY

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Davidm Dubin davidmdubin@gmail.com wrote:
Please help with some stumbling blocks in two families >from which many
of us are descended: the OPPENHEIMERs and the BALLINs of Worms,
Germany. Please help me understand the following about the
OPPENHEIMERs:
1- Ettlinger's Ele Toldot, a fantastic source of information about
Frankfurt Jewry of the 12th -18th centuries, has two contemporary
listings for Loeb OPPENHEIMER, one (died 1574) who was the son of
Majer & Gutlin and who became an apostate named Paulus Renatus, and
one (died 1572 or 1573) without parents listed who was married to
Sorle. All OPPENHEIMER trees that I have come across seem to conflate
the two, making one person, married to Sorle and son of Majer &
Gutlin, thereby extending the ancestor tree a few more generations.
Where is the source for doing so?

2- In the Gruener buch >from Worms (Rosenthal's transcription), two
major figures named (Simon) Wolf OPPENHEIM appear. Both are lauded in
the highest terms. One died in 1596, and one was likely born in about
that year (his parents Josef Jehuda and Frumet married in the 1590s)
and died in 1664. The latter is the grandfather of his namesake of
even greater renown, the banker who died in Hanover in 1726. It stands
to reason that there was a family connection between the two earlier
Simon Wolfs, and it even is likely that the second was named for the
first. Yet I see no listing of the earlier Simon Wolf in any
OPPENHEIMER tree. Does anyone know where he belongs in the family?
German SIG #Germany Re: OPPENHEIMERs of 16-17th century Worms #germany

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer
 

Please answer to the list about this. As David says, there are many
others of us who are interested.

As for his first question, based on Ele Toldot, it seems pretty clear
that there are two men named Loeb OPPENHEIMER (with some variations
for both of them). I'm afraid that the genealogies that conflate the
two come >from people not paying attention to all the details of the
men and working on the unreliable principle of "same name, must be
same person" (sigh.....).

Peace, Christine Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer, Hyde Park, NY

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Davidm Dubin davidmdubin@gmail.com wrote:
Please help with some stumbling blocks in two families >from which many
of us are descended: the OPPENHEIMERs and the BALLINs of Worms,
Germany. Please help me understand the following about the
OPPENHEIMERs:
1- Ettlinger's Ele Toldot, a fantastic source of information about
Frankfurt Jewry of the 12th -18th centuries, has two contemporary
listings for Loeb OPPENHEIMER, one (died 1574) who was the son of
Majer & Gutlin and who became an apostate named Paulus Renatus, and
one (died 1572 or 1573) without parents listed who was married to
Sorle. All OPPENHEIMER trees that I have come across seem to conflate
the two, making one person, married to Sorle and son of Majer &
Gutlin, thereby extending the ancestor tree a few more generations.
Where is the source for doing so?

2- In the Gruener buch >from Worms (Rosenthal's transcription), two
major figures named (Simon) Wolf OPPENHEIM appear. Both are lauded in
the highest terms. One died in 1596, and one was likely born in about
that year (his parents Josef Jehuda and Frumet married in the 1590s)
and died in 1664. The latter is the grandfather of his namesake of
even greater renown, the banker who died in Hanover in 1726. It stands
to reason that there was a family connection between the two earlier
Simon Wolfs, and it even is likely that the second was named for the
first. Yet I see no listing of the earlier Simon Wolf in any
OPPENHEIMER tree. Does anyone know where he belongs in the family?
Dolz (Theresa) BAER and Isaac MUENZESHEIMER (MINZESHEIMER) #germany

Ralph Baer
 

Please excuse the length of this post. My interest is in finding if anyone
is connected to these people.

Dolz (Tolz, Dorothea, Therese) BAER, a sister of my great-great-grandfather
Lazarus BAER, was born on 2 or 26 July 1796 in Malsch in the present-day
Landkreis (county) of Karlsruhe in Baden-Wuerttemberg. On 29 November 1820
she gave birth to an illegitimate daughter called Sara Carolin on the
original birth record which is at the Catholic Parish Office in Malsch. The
duplicate copy in the Karlsruhe state archives just calls her Sara. That is
available on line.

On 10 January 1832 she married Isaak MUENZESHEIMER (U-umlaut) of Stebbach
(Landkreis Heilbronn, Baden-Wuerttemberg). They had 4 children in Stebbach:
Mila 4 June 1833, Esther 12 August 1835, Kuefe (u-umlaut) 24 January 1837,
and Marx 19 April 1939. All of these Stebbach records are also available at
the Karlsruhe website.

About two weeks ago, I discovered that the entire family immigrated to the
US in 1840.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5L9J-NG?i=131&;cc=1849782.

My deciphering of the listing shows Isacc MUNZEIMER 27, Theresa 36, Maria 7,
Iserder 5, Carl 3, Marx 1, Carolina 18, Fanny 19, all >from Badon [sic].
Fanny was probably a second illegitimate daughter of Dolz (Theresa). Given
those ages, she could not have been Isaac's daughter. If I assume that Fanny
was indeed older than Caroline she was born in a gap in the records which
are on line. I have written to Malsch to see if she is recorded there. I can
see the scribe having interpreted the spoken Esther as Iserder (Isidor).

In the US the family used the name MINZESHEIMER, misspelled all sorts of
ways, and some descendants changed it to MINTON.

Mila/Maria became Amelia MINZESHEIMER and married Ascher Moses FRANK of
Jebenhausen. There are two entries in the FTJP which have conflated him with
his cousin Ascher Isaac FRANK. I wrote to one and have not received a reply.
Among their descendants are the ZECKENDORF real estate developers. She lived
in NYC and died on 26 March 1893.

I have not locate Esther.

Kufe/Carl became Charles MINZESHEIMER. He married Henrietta COBLENZER and
lived in NYC. He died on 1 April 1916.

Marx apparently became Morris MINZESHEIMER and married Mathilda SPEIER. He
lived in NYC and died on 13 October 1879.

Sara/Carolina became Caroline MINZESHEIMER. She married David HAMBURG in
lived in NYC. I have not located her death record.

Fanny apparently married Jacob MUHLHAUSER. She lived in NYC and apparently
died on 15 April 1872.

Theresa (16 December 1875) and Isaac (27 June 1880) and some of their
children are buried in Salem Fields cemetery in Brooklyn, NY. This is
Theresa's gravestone:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&;GSln=Minzesheimer&GSiman=1
&GScid=66220&GRid=133685467& Even blowing up the image, it appears that not
much more than her name is still legible.

As I wrote at the beginning, I am interested in corresponding with anyone
who is connected to these people in order to exchange data. I have no known
interest in other MUENZESHEIMERs >from Stebbach or elsewhere.

Ralph N. Baer Washington, DC RalphNBaer@aol.com
German SIG #Germany Dolz (Theresa) BAER and Isaac MUENZESHEIMER (MINZESHEIMER) #germany

Ralph Baer
 

Please excuse the length of this post. My interest is in finding if anyone
is connected to these people.

Dolz (Tolz, Dorothea, Therese) BAER, a sister of my great-great-grandfather
Lazarus BAER, was born on 2 or 26 July 1796 in Malsch in the present-day
Landkreis (county) of Karlsruhe in Baden-Wuerttemberg. On 29 November 1820
she gave birth to an illegitimate daughter called Sara Carolin on the
original birth record which is at the Catholic Parish Office in Malsch. The
duplicate copy in the Karlsruhe state archives just calls her Sara. That is
available on line.

On 10 January 1832 she married Isaak MUENZESHEIMER (U-umlaut) of Stebbach
(Landkreis Heilbronn, Baden-Wuerttemberg). They had 4 children in Stebbach:
Mila 4 June 1833, Esther 12 August 1835, Kuefe (u-umlaut) 24 January 1837,
and Marx 19 April 1939. All of these Stebbach records are also available at
the Karlsruhe website.

About two weeks ago, I discovered that the entire family immigrated to the
US in 1840.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5L9J-NG?i=131&;cc=1849782.

My deciphering of the listing shows Isacc MUNZEIMER 27, Theresa 36, Maria 7,
Iserder 5, Carl 3, Marx 1, Carolina 18, Fanny 19, all >from Badon [sic].
Fanny was probably a second illegitimate daughter of Dolz (Theresa). Given
those ages, she could not have been Isaac's daughter. If I assume that Fanny
was indeed older than Caroline she was born in a gap in the records which
are on line. I have written to Malsch to see if she is recorded there. I can
see the scribe having interpreted the spoken Esther as Iserder (Isidor).

In the US the family used the name MINZESHEIMER, misspelled all sorts of
ways, and some descendants changed it to MINTON.

Mila/Maria became Amelia MINZESHEIMER and married Ascher Moses FRANK of
Jebenhausen. There are two entries in the FTJP which have conflated him with
his cousin Ascher Isaac FRANK. I wrote to one and have not received a reply.
Among their descendants are the ZECKENDORF real estate developers. She lived
in NYC and died on 26 March 1893.

I have not locate Esther.

Kufe/Carl became Charles MINZESHEIMER. He married Henrietta COBLENZER and
lived in NYC. He died on 1 April 1916.

Marx apparently became Morris MINZESHEIMER and married Mathilda SPEIER. He
lived in NYC and died on 13 October 1879.

Sara/Carolina became Caroline MINZESHEIMER. She married David HAMBURG in
lived in NYC. I have not located her death record.

Fanny apparently married Jacob MUHLHAUSER. She lived in NYC and apparently
died on 15 April 1872.

Theresa (16 December 1875) and Isaac (27 June 1880) and some of their
children are buried in Salem Fields cemetery in Brooklyn, NY. This is
Theresa's gravestone:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&;GSln=Minzesheimer&GSiman=1
&GScid=66220&GRid=133685467& Even blowing up the image, it appears that not
much more than her name is still legible.

As I wrote at the beginning, I am interested in corresponding with anyone
who is connected to these people in order to exchange data. I have no known
interest in other MUENZESHEIMERs >from Stebbach or elsewhere.

Ralph N. Baer Washington, DC RalphNBaer@aol.com
This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake <BDrake@...>
 

"Christian - Angels" tells the stories of Christians who risked their lives to
shelter and save Jews >from Svir, Belarus, a town near the Lithuianian borders
81 miles northwest of Minsk. Dr. Chanoch Swironi gives several accounts of
these "Christian saints, who deserve to be part of the history of the Jewish
martyrdom" in a long chapter in Svir's Yizkor book.

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/1516873708334779

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow (http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/voynilov/Voynilov.html ),
Kovel (http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kovel/kovel.htm )
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake <BDrake@...>
 

"Christian - Angels" tells the stories of Christians who risked their lives to
shelter and save Jews >from Svir, Belarus, a town near the Lithuianian borders
81 miles northwest of Minsk. Dr. Chanoch Swironi gives several accounts of
these "Christian saints, who deserve to be part of the history of the Jewish
martyrdom" in a long chapter in Svir's Yizkor book.

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/1516873708334779

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow (http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/voynilov/Voynilov.html ),
Kovel (http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kovel/kovel.htm )
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