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Russman in Harrow, UK #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Hazel Russman who posted
Pages of Testimony to Yad VaShem in 2004. She is related to the
Dunkelbaum family which traces back to the Schmelkes and Rokeach
rabbinical families.

--
Neil Rosenstein

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russman in Harrow, UK #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Hazel Russman who posted
Pages of Testimony to Yad VaShem in 2004. She is related to the
Dunkelbaum family which traces back to the Schmelkes and Rokeach
rabbinical families.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Russman in Harrow, UK #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Hazel Russman who posted
Pages of Testimony to Yad VaShem in 2004. She is related to the
Dunkelbaum family which traces back to the Schmelkes and Rokeach
rabbinical families.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Russman in Harrow, UK #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Hazel Russman who posted
Pages of Testimony to Yad VaShem in 2004. She is related to the
Dunkelbaum family which traces back to the Schmelkes and Rokeach
rabbinical families.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Re: DNA and Rabbinical Descent #rabbinic

rayvenna@...
 

The WIRTH group looks at Y-DNA (www.wirthdna.com), so I assume that David
is looking for Y-DNA research projects.

It *may* be possible for endogamous autosomal DNA to detect relationships
farther back than 5th cousins, but I don't think anyone has yet been able
to prove it.

Mindie Kaplan
ENTES, SPLAVER DNA researcher, member of R1b-FGC14505 DNA project
(https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b-fgc14605-jewish-genealogy)

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldman" <lugman@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 22:31:59 -0400

Greetings, everyone. It turns out that my DNA results indicate that I am not
a direct descendant >from Rabbi Yaakov ben Yehuda Weil but >from another line
via one of his grandfather's or great-grandfather's brothers instead.
Now it is said that he was a descendant of both Nachmanides and Rabbi Meir
of Rothenburg. Since it is unknown if I would share that descent via
marriage of his grandfather, great-grandfather etc. as opposed to descent
from a brother of theirs, the only way would be to compare DNA results with
those who claim descent >from Nachmanides and/or Maharam Rothenburg in the
same manner the Weil connection is done in the WIRTH group.
Does anyone know whether such DNA testing has been ever done for descent
from Nachmanides and/or Maharam Rothenburg?


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: DNA and Rabbinical Descent #rabbinic

rayvenna@...
 

The WIRTH group looks at Y-DNA (www.wirthdna.com), so I assume that David
is looking for Y-DNA research projects.

It *may* be possible for endogamous autosomal DNA to detect relationships
farther back than 5th cousins, but I don't think anyone has yet been able
to prove it.

Mindie Kaplan
ENTES, SPLAVER DNA researcher, member of R1b-FGC14505 DNA project
(https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b-fgc14605-jewish-genealogy)

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldman" <lugman@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 22:31:59 -0400

Greetings, everyone. It turns out that my DNA results indicate that I am not
a direct descendant >from Rabbi Yaakov ben Yehuda Weil but >from another line
via one of his grandfather's or great-grandfather's brothers instead.
Now it is said that he was a descendant of both Nachmanides and Rabbi Meir
of Rothenburg. Since it is unknown if I would share that descent via
marriage of his grandfather, great-grandfather etc. as opposed to descent
from a brother of theirs, the only way would be to compare DNA results with
those who claim descent >from Nachmanides and/or Maharam Rothenburg in the
same manner the Weil connection is done in the WIRTH group.
Does anyone know whether such DNA testing has been ever done for descent
from Nachmanides and/or Maharam Rothenburg?


Reclaim The Records wins and freely publishes the New York State birth index, 1881-1942 #general

Asparagirl
 

Reclaim The Records is happy to announce that we've won and put online for
free use the New York State birth index for 1881-1942! This index was
previously only available to the public on old microfiche sheets at a small
number of New York public libraries, as well as the Manhattan branch of
NARA. And they only had it up until 1938, but we got it up through 1942.

We originally filed this New York State Freedom of Information request a
year ago, in September 2017. The files for 1938-1942 are still in the
process of bring uploaded but the whole set should be done before the end
of the week.

Note that New York City births are not included in this index, with a few
exceptions; NYC is a separate vital records jurisdiction >from the rest of
the state. We are very likely going to be suing the NYC DOH for a database
copy of that NYC birth index up through 2008, later this year or first
thing next year. :-)

(And a big thank you to the IAJGS for awarding us the John Stedman
Memorial Grant at the recent conference in Warsaw; those funds are
specifically earmarked for this upcoming legal fight for the NYC birth
index and death index.)

Also, note that births >from three cities -- Albany, Buffalo, and Yonkers --
are not listed in this birth index until about 1914/1915. Those cities kept
their own records prior to that year. We're busy working on getting copies
of their birth indices too...

For "search angels" and adoption researchers, note that many (but not all)
adoptees born in New York might also have their birth names listed in the
index.

Check out our latest newsletter, which has more details about this
index and how we got it:
https://mailchi.mp/reclaimtherecords/bfvk8vew84-1848529
or
https://tinyurl.com/RTR-NYSBI-news

And if you want to skip right to the actual image files, here they are:
https://archive.org/details/nybirthindex?sort=titleSorter
or
https://tinyurl.com/RTR-NYSBI-files

Enjoy!

- Brooke Schreier Ganz
President and Founder, Reclaim The Records
https://www.ReclaimTheRecords.org/
Mill Valley, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Reclaim The Records wins and freely publishes the New York State birth index, 1881-1942 #general

Asparagirl
 

Reclaim The Records is happy to announce that we've won and put online for
free use the New York State birth index for 1881-1942! This index was
previously only available to the public on old microfiche sheets at a small
number of New York public libraries, as well as the Manhattan branch of
NARA. And they only had it up until 1938, but we got it up through 1942.

We originally filed this New York State Freedom of Information request a
year ago, in September 2017. The files for 1938-1942 are still in the
process of bring uploaded but the whole set should be done before the end
of the week.

Note that New York City births are not included in this index, with a few
exceptions; NYC is a separate vital records jurisdiction >from the rest of
the state. We are very likely going to be suing the NYC DOH for a database
copy of that NYC birth index up through 2008, later this year or first
thing next year. :-)

(And a big thank you to the IAJGS for awarding us the John Stedman
Memorial Grant at the recent conference in Warsaw; those funds are
specifically earmarked for this upcoming legal fight for the NYC birth
index and death index.)

Also, note that births >from three cities -- Albany, Buffalo, and Yonkers --
are not listed in this birth index until about 1914/1915. Those cities kept
their own records prior to that year. We're busy working on getting copies
of their birth indices too...

For "search angels" and adoption researchers, note that many (but not all)
adoptees born in New York might also have their birth names listed in the
index.

Check out our latest newsletter, which has more details about this
index and how we got it:
https://mailchi.mp/reclaimtherecords/bfvk8vew84-1848529
or
https://tinyurl.com/RTR-NYSBI-news

And if you want to skip right to the actual image files, here they are:
https://archive.org/details/nybirthindex?sort=titleSorter
or
https://tinyurl.com/RTR-NYSBI-files

Enjoy!

- Brooke Schreier Ganz
President and Founder, Reclaim The Records
https://www.ReclaimTheRecords.org/
Mill Valley, California


ViewMate Translation Request in Hebrew #general

Judy Weinberg
 

I've posted a vital record in Hebrew for which I need a translation. It is
on ViewMate at the following address--
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM69504
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you
Judy Weinberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation Request in Hebrew #general

Judy Weinberg
 

I've posted a vital record in Hebrew for which I need a translation. It is
on ViewMate at the following address--
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM69504
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you
Judy Weinberg


KOCH #general

Ted Kotzin
 

Looking for Isaac KOCH, his wife Miriam (Mary) Grossman, and daughter
Sara, who was born in Lithuania (probably Kaunas) in 1874 and came to
America, specifically Cincinnati in about 1879 >from Liverpool/ ship's
list shows surname as KOSKI and name in US changed to Cook. These are
my father's mother and her parents.

Ted Kotzin
Torrance CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KOCH #general

Ted Kotzin
 

Looking for Isaac KOCH, his wife Miriam (Mary) Grossman, and daughter
Sara, who was born in Lithuania (probably Kaunas) in 1874 and came to
America, specifically Cincinnati in about 1879 >from Liverpool/ ship's
list shows surname as KOSKI and name in US changed to Cook. These are
my father's mother and her parents.

Ted Kotzin
Torrance CA


Re: Need Death Certificate Look-up at New York Archives #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Joel Weiner asked for somebody who was going to the New York City
Municipal Archives, to do a lookup for the death certificate of
Regina/Rose Rosenbaum, who died about 15 June 1968 in Brooklyn.

The N.Y.C. Municipal Archives has death certificates only through 1948.
This death certificate is at the N.Y.C. Department of Health, which
under current rules will release it only to certain people. Details
are on their instruction page at
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/services/death-certificates.page

Sorry for the bad news.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need Death Certificate Look-up at New York Archives #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Joel Weiner asked for somebody who was going to the New York City
Municipal Archives, to do a lookup for the death certificate of
Regina/Rose Rosenbaum, who died about 15 June 1968 in Brooklyn.

The N.Y.C. Municipal Archives has death certificates only through 1948.
This death certificate is at the N.Y.C. Department of Health, which
under current rules will release it only to certain people. Details
are on their instruction page at
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/services/death-certificates.page

Sorry for the bad news.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Re: Vilna Marriage Record 1887 #general

David Goldman
 

Turns out that another source indicates that my great-grandparents were
actually married in the city of Kharkov on August 12, 1886! I think this
source is more reliable. So I'll forget about Vilna and concentrate on
Kharkov.

David Goldman
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Vilna Marriage Record 1887 #general

David Goldman
 

Turns out that another source indicates that my great-grandparents were
actually married in the city of Kharkov on August 12, 1886! I think this
source is more reliable. So I'll forget about Vilna and concentrate on
Kharkov.

David Goldman
NYC


Samuel OPPENHEIMER -- thank you #germany

David Dubin <davidmdubin@...>
 

Hi all,
Thank you to all those who helped put together an answer to my
question. Ralph Baer amazingly remembered a source >from work he did 30
years ago, demonstrating that Sandela was not the mother of most of
Samuel's children.
The date that appears for the first wife's death (11 March 1673) in
many trees is wrong -- that is the date of a lawsuit brought against
Sandela as Samuel's wife (See Die Familie Berolzheimer in the leo
Baeck Institute, chapter 9 page 85), so the first wife died BEFORE
that date.
The best we can say is that Samuel's wife died before that date, her
name is unknown, and Sandela is not a grandmother of most of us who
thought she was.
Mr Baer is indeed grandson of hers, but with her first husband Moses
Abraham ASTRUC.

Happy New Year. David Dubin, Teaneck, NJ davidmdubin@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany Samuel OPPENHEIMER -- thank you #germany

David Dubin <davidmdubin@...>
 

Hi all,
Thank you to all those who helped put together an answer to my
question. Ralph Baer amazingly remembered a source >from work he did 30
years ago, demonstrating that Sandela was not the mother of most of
Samuel's children.
The date that appears for the first wife's death (11 March 1673) in
many trees is wrong -- that is the date of a lawsuit brought against
Sandela as Samuel's wife (See Die Familie Berolzheimer in the leo
Baeck Institute, chapter 9 page 85), so the first wife died BEFORE
that date.
The best we can say is that Samuel's wife died before that date, her
name is unknown, and Sandela is not a grandmother of most of us who
thought she was.
Mr Baer is indeed grandson of hers, but with her first husband Moses
Abraham ASTRUC.

Happy New Year. David Dubin, Teaneck, NJ davidmdubin@gmail.com


Re: Samuel OPPENHEIMER-HEIDELBERG (died Vienna 1703) #germany

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer
 

Davidm Dubin davidmdubin@gmail.com asked about Samuel OPPENHEIMER

As far as I know, Berolzheimer had not footnotes, per se. He seems to
have copied a lot of his information >from public records.

My husband is a descendant of Samuel OPPENHEIMER's sister, Sarlan
OPPENHEIM (married Rabbi Isak BRILIN). This OPPENHEIM(er) (that family
used both forms of the name) line is in addition to Jim's Y-DNA
OPPENHEIMER line. I have the line of Sarlan (Oppenheimer) Brilin back
to Amschel Oppenheim, who lived in the early to middle 1500s, and my
husband's Oppenheimer line back to Jechiel Oppenheimer (died 1680 in
Worms). There is a certain amount of intermarriage between the lines,
and I have a theory that if I could find the ancestors of Jechiel, the
two lines would eventually have a common ancestor, but Jechiel seems
to be a dead end (some people claim some ancestors for Jechiel, but a
researcher in Worms tells me we have hit a dead end with him).

I would be happy to share the information I've collected on Sarlan and
Samuel OPPENHEIM(er)'s ancestors with you if you want it.

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer, Hyde Park, NY christine3cats@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany Re: Samuel OPPENHEIMER-HEIDELBERG (died Vienna 1703) #germany

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer
 

Davidm Dubin davidmdubin@gmail.com asked about Samuel OPPENHEIMER

As far as I know, Berolzheimer had not footnotes, per se. He seems to
have copied a lot of his information >from public records.

My husband is a descendant of Samuel OPPENHEIMER's sister, Sarlan
OPPENHEIM (married Rabbi Isak BRILIN). This OPPENHEIM(er) (that family
used both forms of the name) line is in addition to Jim's Y-DNA
OPPENHEIMER line. I have the line of Sarlan (Oppenheimer) Brilin back
to Amschel Oppenheim, who lived in the early to middle 1500s, and my
husband's Oppenheimer line back to Jechiel Oppenheimer (died 1680 in
Worms). There is a certain amount of intermarriage between the lines,
and I have a theory that if I could find the ancestors of Jechiel, the
two lines would eventually have a common ancestor, but Jechiel seems
to be a dead end (some people claim some ancestors for Jechiel, but a
researcher in Worms tells me we have hit a dead end with him).

I would be happy to share the information I've collected on Sarlan and
Samuel OPPENHEIM(er)'s ancestors with you if you want it.

Christine Crawford-Oppenheimer, Hyde Park, NY christine3cats@gmail.com

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