Dear gersigs,

I'm searching vor Arthur HEINZE. I don't know where he came from
but I have read that many Heinzes came >from Breslau.

Arthur HEINZE (Jewish) was married to Ottilie Haraschensk (nonjewish)
born 13.02.1880 in Johannisburg (Eastprussia). Both have had 3 sons.
Heinz was born 26.06.1912 in Unna, Hans was born 18.10.1916 in Unna
and Arthur was born 03.06.1919 in Unna.

Hans is missed in the II WW since 05.10.1945.

The life of them in Unna is not clear. Arthur (father) established a
store in Unna 1901 - nothing more! His son Heinz was the owner of this
store in 1946.

I think that the father died before 1939 because I could not find him
in the census 1939. Has anyone informations for me about this family?

Regards, Mike Redel, Unna - Germany redel.mike@gmail.com

Dear gersigs,

I'm searching vor Arthur HEINZE. I don't know where he came from
but I have read that many Heinzes came >from Breslau.

Arthur HEINZE (Jewish) was married to Ottilie Haraschensk (nonjewish)
born 13.02.1880 in Johannisburg (Eastprussia). Both have had 3 sons.
Heinz was born 26.06.1912 in Unna, Hans was born 18.10.1916 in Unna
and Arthur was born 03.06.1919 in Unna.

Hans is missed in the II WW since 05.10.1945.

The life of them in Unna is not clear. Arthur (father) established a
store in Unna 1901 - nothing more! His son Heinz was the owner of this
store in 1946.

I think that the father died before 1939 because I could not find him
in the census 1939. Has anyone informations for me about this family?

Regards, Mike Redel, Unna - Germany redel.mike@gmail.com

I am looking for Lois Sernoff's list of names of the Hordisher Wilsher
Lodge Burial Lodge buried at Mt. Carmel. Any help would be
appreciated. Beverly Haas

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I am looking for Lois Sernoff's list of names of the Hordisher Wilsher
Lodge Burial Lodge buried at Mt. Carmel. Any help would be
appreciated. Beverly Haas

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bevhaas@gmail.com

Hello Adam,

May I respectfully suggest the possibility that you are on the wrong
track. The surname Kherson may indeed indicate a connection to the
province (or the town) of the same name. That's surely worth checking
out, as it appears you are doing. But there is a second possible
origin of the surname name that you also ought to consider.

Kherson, like many similar names, could just as well derive >from a
Hebrew acronym. Do you have any documentation of how this surname was
spelled by your family in Hebrew characters? Kherson the province
would normally have been spelled with an initial chaf, but Kherson the
acronym with a chet.

With a chet this acronym would stand for "CHatan Reb S--- N---,"
meaning the son-in-law of Mr. S--- N----. For example, a man who was
married to a woman whose father's name was Shmuel Nosson could very
well have been assigned the surname Kherson. There are actually a
whole bunch of different Jewish surnames that were given in this way.

Good luck,

Rabbi David Osachy



On 9/26/18, Adam Cherson adam.cherson@gmail.com
<ukraine@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I am just beginning to unravel the story of my great grandfather Shmuel
haCohen Kherson. He raised his family >from about 1895 to 1925 in
Dieveniskes (not far >from Vilna to the South; on the border with
Belarus). Many advisers have suggested that this surname seems to
resemble the name of Kherson Oblast and I know there was quite a bit of
migration >from Eastern Belarus and Southern Lithuania to Kherson (North
to South) which was a kind of economic hotspot due to its agriculture
(especially sugar beets) and ports. So let me presume then that the
surname is perhaps a truncated version of Khersonsky.

My question is what might be the scenario whereby he winds up south of
Vilna with the Kherson surname?

One possibility I am examining is that perhaps his earlier ancestors
were >from the Dieveniskes area originally (I mean after having arrived
there much earlier >from Eastern Poland) and that one of these migrated
to Kherson as part of the Jewish incentives, and then for some reason he
returned to Dieveniskes, perhaps due to a marriage prospect.

Another possibility is that his ancestor migrated southeast >from eastern
Poland through Western Ukraine into Kherson and then due to some family
connections in the Dieveniskies area, and a marriage prospect there he
migrated north. I have some evidence that members of his extended family
who registered in Dieveniskes in 1858 were merchants in Kherson
province.

As a related side note, does anyone know what would have been the most
traveled route for merchants and goods between, say, Stanislav (on the
Black Sea) and Vilna? Would that have been using the Dnieper River to
Orsha and then West by wagon >from there, or the Dnieper to Kiev and by
wagon >from there, or even all the way by wagon through Minsk, or
something else?

Any thoughts based on your own experiences are welcomed and appreciated.

I would be glad to do my own research if anyone has any books I may
reference about this particular migration pattern >from South to North.

General historical comments may be posted here. For more detailed
discussions please contact me privately.

Thanks,
Adam Cherson

Hello Adam,

May I respectfully suggest the possibility that you are on the wrong
track. The surname Kherson may indeed indicate a connection to the
province (or the town) of the same name. That's surely worth checking
out, as it appears you are doing. But there is a second possible
origin of the surname name that you also ought to consider.

Kherson, like many similar names, could just as well derive >from a
Hebrew acronym. Do you have any documentation of how this surname was
spelled by your family in Hebrew characters? Kherson the province
would normally have been spelled with an initial chaf, but Kherson the
acronym with a chet.

With a chet this acronym would stand for "CHatan Reb S--- N---,"
meaning the son-in-law of Mr. S--- N----. For example, a man who was
married to a woman whose father's name was Shmuel Nosson could very
well have been assigned the surname Kherson. There are actually a
whole bunch of different Jewish surnames that were given in this way.

Good luck,

Rabbi David Osachy



On 9/26/18, Adam Cherson adam.cherson@gmail.com
<ukraine@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I am just beginning to unravel the story of my great grandfather Shmuel
haCohen Kherson. He raised his family >from about 1895 to 1925 in
Dieveniskes (not far >from Vilna to the South; on the border with
Belarus). Many advisers have suggested that this surname seems to
resemble the name of Kherson Oblast and I know there was quite a bit of
migration >from Eastern Belarus and Southern Lithuania to Kherson (North
to South) which was a kind of economic hotspot due to its agriculture
(especially sugar beets) and ports. So let me presume then that the
surname is perhaps a truncated version of Khersonsky.

My question is what might be the scenario whereby he winds up south of
Vilna with the Kherson surname?

One possibility I am examining is that perhaps his earlier ancestors
were >from the Dieveniskes area originally (I mean after having arrived
there much earlier >from Eastern Poland) and that one of these migrated
to Kherson as part of the Jewish incentives, and then for some reason he
returned to Dieveniskes, perhaps due to a marriage prospect.

Another possibility is that his ancestor migrated southeast >from eastern
Poland through Western Ukraine into Kherson and then due to some family
connections in the Dieveniskies area, and a marriage prospect there he
migrated north. I have some evidence that members of his extended family
who registered in Dieveniskes in 1858 were merchants in Kherson
province.

As a related side note, does anyone know what would have been the most
traveled route for merchants and goods between, say, Stanislav (on the
Black Sea) and Vilna? Would that have been using the Dnieper River to
Orsha and then West by wagon >from there, or the Dnieper to Kiev and by
wagon >from there, or even all the way by wagon through Minsk, or
something else?

Any thoughts based on your own experiences are welcomed and appreciated.

I would be glad to do my own research if anyone has any books I may
reference about this particular migration pattern >from South to North.

General historical comments may be posted here. For more detailed
discussions please contact me privately.

Thanks,
Adam Cherson

Each year in conjunction with the International Jewish Genealogy
Month-http://www.iajgs.org/blog/ijgm/, IGRA hosts our Heshvan Event. Don’t
miss your opportunity to meet up with IGRA members and others in the
genealogy community, pay tribute to our fantastic team of volunteers,
congratulate those receiving special awards and hear a variety of lectures.
This year the IGRA Heshvan Event will be held at the National Library of
Israel on the Givat Ram campus of Hebrew University in Jerusalem -
http://www.huji.ac.il/huji/maps/givatramCampus.htm, October 18, 2018 – 9
Heshvan 5779. Our day begins at 09:30 and will last until 16:00. During the
Opening Session we will be honoring our volunteers and presenting awards to
two institutions and two of the volunteers will receive the Mathilde Tagger
Prize of Recognition For Volunteering With IGRA
Databases-https://genealogy.org.il/recognize/. As you look at the schedule
you will notice that most of the lectures are offered in pairs – one in
English and the other in Hebrew – allowing you to choose the lecture of most
interest to you for each session.
Also note that we are offering a “behind the scenes” tour of the National
Library. On the registration form it is necessary to designate your desire
to join this tour and the language you prefer (English or Hebrew).
The schedule and descriptions of the lectures follow as well as a short
introduction of our speakers. REGISTER
TODAY-https://www.eventbrite.com/e/heshvan-event-tickets-50556180898?utm_campaign=new_event_email&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eb_email&utm_term=viewmyevent_button
to guarantee your place with us for a day commemorating “Communities That
Will Never Be Forgotten”. Fee for paid 2018 IGRA members – 50 NIS; Fee for
non-members – 70 NIS. (If you are not sure if you are a paid member, please
send a message to: webmaster@genealogy.org.il and we will clarify your
status and get back to you.)
Schedule:
9:30-10:00 – registration
10:00-10:30 – Opening session and recognition of our volunteers
10:30-11:15 – 2 parallel lectures:
“The DNA of the Jewish People”, Max Blankfeld, FamilyTree DNA, English
“Digital Memories >from Fez, Morocco”, Einat Levi, Hebrew
11:15-11:30 – refreshment break
11:30-12:15 – 2 parallel lectures:
“All Roads Lead to Eretz Israel”, Rose Feldman, English
“>from Family Research to Community Preservation, the Case of the Jewry of
Nabel, Tunisia”, Dr. Victor Hayoun, Hebrew
12:15-13:30 – lunch break
13:30-14:15 – Library tour (on event registration be sure to sign up for the
tour with your language preference – English or Hebrew – sections will open
depending on demand)
14:15-15:00 – 2 parallel lectures:
“Remember Our Ancestors: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania”, Ralph Salinger, English
“’Kala’ – My book describing our family story”, Ora Ahimeir, Hebrew
15:00-15:15 – coffee break
15:15-16:00 – “The Jon Stedman/Kelly Moore Adoption Story”, Karen Franklin,
English

Directions:
Due to very dense parking lots, it is recommended to use public
transportation, there are few options:
The new train >from Ben Gurion airport to Jerusalem, and buses # 68,14 to
Givat Ram.
Any bus to Jerusalem central station, and buses # 68,14 to Givat Ram.
Bus # 100 >from Shafirim parking lot, to Givat Ram
For more information about the lectures and the event -
https://genealogy.org.il/2018/09/27/its-almost-time-for-the-annual-igra-heshvan-event/
REGISTER NOW -
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/heshvan-event-tickets-50556180898?utm_campaign=new_event_email&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eb_email&utm_term=viewmyevent_button

We look forward to meeting you at the event.
Chag Sameach

Eyal Hollander
Event committee

Each year in conjunction with the International Jewish Genealogy
Month-http://www.iajgs.org/blog/ijgm/, IGRA hosts our Heshvan Event. Don’t
miss your opportunity to meet up with IGRA members and others in the
genealogy community, pay tribute to our fantastic team of volunteers,
congratulate those receiving special awards and hear a variety of lectures.
This year the IGRA Heshvan Event will be held at the National Library of
Israel on the Givat Ram campus of Hebrew University in Jerusalem -
http://www.huji.ac.il/huji/maps/givatramCampus.htm, October 18, 2018 – 9
Heshvan 5779. Our day begins at 09:30 and will last until 16:00. During the
Opening Session we will be honoring our volunteers and presenting awards to
two institutions and two of the volunteers will receive the Mathilde Tagger
Prize of Recognition For Volunteering With IGRA
Databases-https://genealogy.org.il/recognize/. As you look at the schedule
you will notice that most of the lectures are offered in pairs – one in
English and the other in Hebrew – allowing you to choose the lecture of most
interest to you for each session.
Also note that we are offering a “behind the scenes” tour of the National
Library. On the registration form it is necessary to designate your desire
to join this tour and the language you prefer (English or Hebrew).
The schedule and descriptions of the lectures follow as well as a short
introduction of our speakers. REGISTER
TODAY-https://www.eventbrite.com/e/heshvan-event-tickets-50556180898?utm_campaign=new_event_email&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eb_email&utm_term=viewmyevent_button
to guarantee your place with us for a day commemorating “Communities That
Will Never Be Forgotten”. Fee for paid 2018 IGRA members – 50 NIS; Fee for
non-members – 70 NIS. (If you are not sure if you are a paid member, please
send a message to: webmaster@genealogy.org.il and we will clarify your
status and get back to you.)
Schedule:
9:30-10:00 – registration
10:00-10:30 – Opening session and recognition of our volunteers
10:30-11:15 – 2 parallel lectures:
“The DNA of the Jewish People”, Max Blankfeld, FamilyTree DNA, English
“Digital Memories >from Fez, Morocco”, Einat Levi, Hebrew
11:15-11:30 – refreshment break
11:30-12:15 – 2 parallel lectures:
“All Roads Lead to Eretz Israel”, Rose Feldman, English
“>from Family Research to Community Preservation, the Case of the Jewry of
Nabel, Tunisia”, Dr. Victor Hayoun, Hebrew
12:15-13:30 – lunch break
13:30-14:15 – Library tour (on event registration be sure to sign up for the
tour with your language preference – English or Hebrew – sections will open
depending on demand)
14:15-15:00 – 2 parallel lectures:
“Remember Our Ancestors: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania”, Ralph Salinger, English
“’Kala’ – My book describing our family story”, Ora Ahimeir, Hebrew
15:00-15:15 – coffee break
15:15-16:00 – “The Jon Stedman/Kelly Moore Adoption Story”, Karen Franklin,
English

Directions:
Due to very dense parking lots, it is recommended to use public
transportation, there are few options:
The new train >from Ben Gurion airport to Jerusalem, and buses # 68,14 to
Givat Ram.
Any bus to Jerusalem central station, and buses # 68,14 to Givat Ram.
Bus # 100 >from Shafirim parking lot, to Givat Ram
For more information about the lectures and the event -
https://genealogy.org.il/2018/09/27/its-almost-time-for-the-annual-igra-heshvan-event/
REGISTER NOW -
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/heshvan-event-tickets-50556180898?utm_campaign=new_event_email&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eb_email&utm_term=viewmyevent_button

We look forward to meeting you at the event.
Chag Sameach

Eyal Hollander
Event committee

Hi, I'm trying to find out more information about my grandfather
John Nagrocki who was born in Vilkija, Lithuanian in 1898 and
arrived in NY in 1913. It's hard finding information about his
parents. He had a brother, Jurgis (husband of Rose Karnovsky)
and a sister Josephine (wife of John Gailus) who arrived in IL.

He may have had other siblings. I am wondering if there are
any other people out there who have my relatives in their trees.
It seems he was part Jewish as I have some European Jewish
ethnicity. I'm also interested in learning more about his family
name Nagrocki, also spelled Nagrodzki.

Thanks, Andrea Nicki

Hi, I'm trying to find out more information about my grandfather
John Nagrocki who was born in Vilkija, Lithuanian in 1898 and
arrived in NY in 1913. It's hard finding information about his
parents. He had a brother, Jurgis (husband of Rose Karnovsky)
and a sister Josephine (wife of John Gailus) who arrived in IL.

He may have had other siblings. I am wondering if there are
any other people out there who have my relatives in their trees.
It seems he was part Jewish as I have some European Jewish
ethnicity. I'm also interested in learning more about his family
name Nagrocki, also spelled Nagrodzki.

Thanks, Andrea Nicki

Dear Researchers,

If you are searching for your family in the Panevezys area 7 new files have
been added to the Panevezys District Research Group (DRG) site.

They are:

Linkuva 1897Rabbi Electors Lists
Pumpenai 1907-1913 Electors
Zeimelis 1868 Taxpayers unable to pay
Pamusis 1906 -1907 Electors
Pasvalys 1915 Rabbi Electors
Panevezys District 1915 Certificates
Panevezys District 1909 Rabbi Electors

These files will be publicly searchable in the ALD in 18 months' time !

I am hoping that if you do not belong to our group you will join !
Just go to
https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/

Ralph
Coordinator Panevezys District Research Group
salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il



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Dear Researchers,

If you are searching for your family in the Panevezys area 7 new files have
been added to the Panevezys District Research Group (DRG) site.

They are:

Linkuva 1897Rabbi Electors Lists
Pumpenai 1907-1913 Electors
Zeimelis 1868 Taxpayers unable to pay
Pamusis 1906 -1907 Electors
Pasvalys 1915 Rabbi Electors
Panevezys District 1915 Certificates
Panevezys District 1909 Rabbi Electors

These files will be publicly searchable in the ALD in 18 months' time !

I am hoping that if you do not belong to our group you will join !
Just go to
https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/

Ralph
Coordinator Panevezys District Research Group
salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il



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In the 1897 All Russia Census there is a column heading "Other Names".
What does that mean?

-Michael Kaplan

In the 1897 All Russia Census there is a column heading "Other Names".
What does that mean?

-Michael Kaplan

Greetings, all. Here is something I don't understand. Ancestry shows a young
relative whose great-great grandmother was an elder sister to my
grandfather. She is a "very high match" (49 centimorgans shared across 7 DNA
segments) whereas her own sister shows as an "extremely high match" (72
centimorgans shared across 8 DNA segments). I am stumped why two siblings
would not have the same match numbers. The more I get into this the more
confusing it gets!
David Goldman
NYC

Greetings, all. Here is something I don't understand. Ancestry shows a young
relative whose great-great grandmother was an elder sister to my
grandfather. She is a "very high match" (49 centimorgans shared across 7 DNA
segments) whereas her own sister shows as an "extremely high match" (72
centimorgans shared across 8 DNA segments). I am stumped why two siblings
would not have the same match numbers. The more I get into this the more
confusing it gets!
David Goldman
NYC

Fri 5th 10.30-3pm Our regular monthly Friday Library Session. 14,
Charterhouse Buildings. Goswell Rd. London EC1M 7BA. RSVP : Lydia Collins
at library@jgsgb.org.uk

Sun 7th 2-6pm We will be holding, what has become a very successful
special event over the past few years, at our HQ (in the Lecture Room) at
the Society Of Genealogists 14, Charterhouse Buildings Goswell Rd. London
EC1M 7BA.
"Brick Walls & Brush Up" is JGSGB's annual workshop. Mentors will be on
hand to assist those who feel that they need a kick start and a tune up
with their researches. Our extensive Library will be open, computers set up,
refreshments provided and best of all, entrance is FREE !!! RSVPs to :
raymusik@aol.com.


Thur 18th 7.30-9.00pm An Education Evening.This time round -
'Getting the most out of Family Search.' Jeanette Rosenberg will be
holding another one of her successful Webinar sessions >from her home.
Contact Jeanette at : jeanette.r.rosenberg@googlemail.com for further
details.

Sun 21st 2-5pm October's Eastern European Special Interest Group meeting
will welcome once again our Chairman Leigh Dworkin. Leigh will continue with
"The (Berko)wiczes of East Warsaw Part 4" Event will take place at the SOG
14, Charterhouse Buildings. Goswell Rd. London EC1M 7BA in their Lecture Room.

Sun 21st 2-5pm The monthly Sunday Library Session at 14, Charterhouse
Buildings Goswell Rd. London EC1M 7BA.
RSVP : Lydia Collins at library@jgsgb.org.uk

Sun 28th. Event of the year. JGSGB's 25th Annual London One-Day Conference.
10.00-4.30 p.m. It will be held once again at the Jewish Museum, Raymond
Burton House, 129-131 Albert St. London NW1 7NB.
Full details of speakers and ticket application form, please refer to our
Newsletter and/or website. For even further inquiries, please contact JGS'
Secretary and Conference organizer, Martin Hill at
martin.hill44@btinternet.com,

Raymond Montanjees
PROGRAMME COMMITTEE

Fri 5th 10.30-3pm Our regular monthly Friday Library Session. 14,
Charterhouse Buildings. Goswell Rd. London EC1M 7BA. RSVP : Lydia Collins
at library@jgsgb.org.uk

Sun 7th 2-6pm We will be holding, what has become a very successful
special event over the past few years, at our HQ (in the Lecture Room) at
the Society Of Genealogists 14, Charterhouse Buildings Goswell Rd. London
EC1M 7BA.
"Brick Walls & Brush Up" is JGSGB's annual workshop. Mentors will be on
hand to assist those who feel that they need a kick start and a tune up
with their researches. Our extensive Library will be open, computers set up,
refreshments provided and best of all, entrance is FREE !!! RSVPs to :
raymusik@aol.com.


Thur 18th 7.30-9.00pm An Education Evening.This time round -
'Getting the most out of Family Search.' Jeanette Rosenberg will be
holding another one of her successful Webinar sessions >from her home.
Contact Jeanette at : jeanette.r.rosenberg@googlemail.com for further
details.

Sun 21st 2-5pm October's Eastern European Special Interest Group meeting
will welcome once again our Chairman Leigh Dworkin. Leigh will continue with
"The (Berko)wiczes of East Warsaw Part 4" Event will take place at the SOG
14, Charterhouse Buildings. Goswell Rd. London EC1M 7BA in their Lecture Room.

Sun 21st 2-5pm The monthly Sunday Library Session at 14, Charterhouse
Buildings Goswell Rd. London EC1M 7BA.
RSVP : Lydia Collins at library@jgsgb.org.uk

Sun 28th. Event of the year. JGSGB's 25th Annual London One-Day Conference.
10.00-4.30 p.m. It will be held once again at the Jewish Museum, Raymond
Burton House, 129-131 Albert St. London NW1 7NB.
Full details of speakers and ticket application form, please refer to our
Newsletter and/or website. For even further inquiries, please contact JGS'
Secretary and Conference organizer, Martin Hill at
martin.hill44@btinternet.com,

Raymond Montanjees
PROGRAMME COMMITTEE

Trying to find out information, grave location, obituary or news item
of the day on Milek Blankstein, son of Emauel (Munya) Blankstein who
murdered in Vienna about 1924. He was married to Berta and had a year
old daughter at that time (Ruth). Berta remarried (to Yaakov Chazan
founder of the Mapam party in Israel) and lived in Israel. Milek was a
maternal grandson of Rabbi Aleksander Schmelkes (1823-89), son of
Rabbi Haim Samuel Schmelkes, a descendant of the Rokeah rabbinical
family.

--
Neil Rosenstein

Trying to find out information, grave location, obituary or news item
of the day on Milek Blankstein, son of Emauel (Munya) Blankstein who
murdered in Vienna about 1924. He was married to Berta and had a year
old daughter at that time (Ruth). Berta remarried (to Yaakov Chazan
founder of the Mapam party in Israel) and lived in Israel. Milek was a
maternal grandson of Rabbi Aleksander Schmelkes (1823-89), son of
Rabbi Haim Samuel Schmelkes, a descendant of the Rokeah rabbinical
family.

--
Neil Rosenstein