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Identifying Students in 1902 Yeshiva Photo
#general
To all,
I've posted a photograph of a group of rabbinical students in the Pressburg Yeshiva, in 1902. Pressburg is now Bratislava, Slovakia. The same photo was posted last year (ID 62812) by another person whose ancestor was a FRANKL. This time, I believe I recognized my own grandfather, Leopold GOLDSTEIN, circled, as the person next to one in 62812. Does anyone know of other rabbinical students who might have been there at the same time and are possibly in this photo? http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM70779 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Madeleine Isenberg madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com Beverly Hills, CA Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland, such as: Nowy Targ, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lopuszna, Ochotnica, possibly Krakow, who migrated into Kezmarok or nearby Straszky/Nagy-Eor/Nehre, both now in Slovakia. GOLDSTEIN in Abaujszina (Sena), Szkaros, Szikso, and Kosice, Slovakia; KOHN and GOLDSTEIN in Tolcsva, Hungary
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Identifying Students in 1902 Yeshiva Photo
#general
To all,
I've posted a photograph of a group of rabbinical students in the Pressburg Yeshiva, in 1902. Pressburg is now Bratislava, Slovakia. The same photo was posted last year (ID 62812) by another person whose ancestor was a FRANKL. This time, I believe I recognized my own grandfather, Leopold GOLDSTEIN, circled, as the person next to one in 62812. Does anyone know of other rabbinical students who might have been there at the same time and are possibly in this photo? http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM70779 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Madeleine Isenberg madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com Beverly Hills, CA Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland, such as: Nowy Targ, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lopuszna, Ochotnica, possibly Krakow, who migrated into Kezmarok or nearby Straszky/Nagy-Eor/Nehre, both now in Slovakia. GOLDSTEIN in Abaujszina (Sena), Szkaros, Szikso, and Kosice, Slovakia; KOHN and GOLDSTEIN in Tolcsva, Hungary
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Researching "LAUFER"
#general
Mark Budman
Hello,
I am doing research on the family name "LAUFER". In particular, I am looking for a branch of the family whose last known location was Netanya, Israel. The name that I have was Saphir (Safir?) LAUFER who is more than likely deceased. My branch of the LAUFER family was >from Hungary (and Austria before that). Names that I have include: Bernard LAUFER, wife Aranka FARKAS, son Kornel (who immigrated to Montreal in the late fifties). The was also family in New York, who owned a diamond business. Any information or assistance in locating LAUFER family would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Mark Mark Budman mark@budman.ca
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching "LAUFER"
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Mark Budman
Hello,
I am doing research on the family name "LAUFER". In particular, I am looking for a branch of the family whose last known location was Netanya, Israel. The name that I have was Saphir (Safir?) LAUFER who is more than likely deceased. My branch of the LAUFER family was >from Hungary (and Austria before that). Names that I have include: Bernard LAUFER, wife Aranka FARKAS, son Kornel (who immigrated to Montreal in the late fifties). The was also family in New York, who owned a diamond business. Any information or assistance in locating LAUFER family would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Mark Mark Budman mark@budman.ca
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Re: Different first names in different sources
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Ira Leviton
Dear Cousins,
Ellen Gottfried asked how to tell which is the correct first name for her relative Aaron KENIG, whose grave father's name is Judah (I assume she meant Yehuda) on his grave but Abram on his social security application. His birth record is not available. There are two approaches that I see. First, he probably did his own social security application, but little likelihood that he designed his own grave marker, so the social security record is more likely to be correct. This still leaves a lot of uncertainty. However, there could be other records that might mention his father's name, such as his death certificate or immigration manifest, which could serve as a tiebreaker. If neither of those can be found easily, his father's name should also be on similar records of his siblings, assuming he had at least one. Regards, Ira Leviton New York, N.Y.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Different first names in different sources
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Ira Leviton
Dear Cousins,
Ellen Gottfried asked how to tell which is the correct first name for her relative Aaron KENIG, whose grave father's name is Judah (I assume she meant Yehuda) on his grave but Abram on his social security application. His birth record is not available. There are two approaches that I see. First, he probably did his own social security application, but little likelihood that he designed his own grave marker, so the social security record is more likely to be correct. This still leaves a lot of uncertainty. However, there could be other records that might mention his father's name, such as his death certificate or immigration manifest, which could serve as a tiebreaker. If neither of those can be found easily, his father's name should also be on similar records of his siblings, assuming he had at least one. Regards, Ira Leviton New York, N.Y.
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Romanian Jewish tours.
#romania
Brown Dennis <dennisbrowntx@...>
Hi: We are planning a roots trip in 2019 to Romania.
My great,great,great,great grandfather,was born in Falticeni in 1806 and migrated to Safed,Palestine in 1832.He was known as Rav Israel (Zusha ) GREENFELD or GRUENFELD. Does anyone know of tour guides (Jewish or non Jewish ) who could help me in the towns of Falticeni or Suceava ? I probably will need someone who can speak and read Hebrew and or Yiddish. I would like to view old graveyards and visit any city hall looking for old records. Please email me any information or ideas.Thank you, Dennis Brown Houston,Texas.
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Romania SIG #Romania Romanian Jewish tours.
#romania
Brown Dennis <dennisbrowntx@...>
Hi: We are planning a roots trip in 2019 to Romania.
My great,great,great,great grandfather,was born in Falticeni in 1806 and migrated to Safed,Palestine in 1832.He was known as Rav Israel (Zusha ) GREENFELD or GRUENFELD. Does anyone know of tour guides (Jewish or non Jewish ) who could help me in the towns of Falticeni or Suceava ? I probably will need someone who can speak and read Hebrew and or Yiddish. I would like to view old graveyards and visit any city hall looking for old records. Please email me any information or ideas.Thank you, Dennis Brown Houston,Texas.
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Re: Keshmer, Roumania?
#romania
David Osachy <osachy@...>
Hi Hilary,
My best guess off the top of my head is that this may be a village that is today known as Caracusenii Vechi, which is located just on the Moldova side of the current border with Romania. There were a few Jewish families living there according to the 1897 Russian census, but it was too small to have its own synagogue or official community. It would make some sense that "Keshmer" was its Yiddish name, though the Romanian name clearly has Turkish origins (which is not unusual for that area), "kara" for example meaning black. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracu%C8%99enii_Vechi There are other possibilities as well, such as another very small village with a similar name (though one that would be a bit less likely to be known as "Keshmer" in Yiddish) that is in Moldova close to the current Ukrainian border. There is also the much larger town of Calarasi in Moldova, about 30 miles east of Iasi, where there surely was a fair-sized Jewish community and synagogue, etc. I don't know what that town was called in colloquial Yiddish. Could someone from there have been known as a "Keshmer"? Maybe...As the borders changed, it would help to know the year that your ancestor said his birthplace was Romania (not his birth year) to see if I am on track with these possibilities. Good luck, Rabbi David Osachy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracu%C8%99enii_Vechi On 12/24/18, Hilary Henkin hilary@mymishpocha.net <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Romania SIG #Romania Re: Keshmer, Roumania?
#romania
David Osachy <osachy@...>
Hi Hilary,
My best guess off the top of my head is that this may be a village that is today known as Caracusenii Vechi, which is located just on the Moldova side of the current border with Romania. There were a few Jewish families living there according to the 1897 Russian census, but it was too small to have its own synagogue or official community. It would make some sense that "Keshmer" was its Yiddish name, though the Romanian name clearly has Turkish origins (which is not unusual for that area), "kara" for example meaning black. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracu%C8%99enii_Vechi There are other possibilities as well, such as another very small village with a similar name (though one that would be a bit less likely to be known as "Keshmer" in Yiddish) that is in Moldova close to the current Ukrainian border. There is also the much larger town of Calarasi in Moldova, about 30 miles east of Iasi, where there surely was a fair-sized Jewish community and synagogue, etc. I don't know what that town was called in colloquial Yiddish. Could someone from there have been known as a "Keshmer"? Maybe...As the borders changed, it would help to know the year that your ancestor said his birthplace was Romania (not his birth year) to see if I am on track with these possibilities. Good luck, Rabbi David Osachy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracu%C8%99enii_Vechi On 12/24/18, Hilary Henkin hilary@mymishpocha.net <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Re: Keshmer, Roumania?
#romania
LucR <luc.radu@...>
Bessarabia now Republic of Moldova
See https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/R=C4=83spopeni,_=C8=98old=C4=83ne=C8=99ti Luc Radu Great Neck, NY On 12/24/18, 9:07 AM, "Romania SIG on behalf of Hilary Henkin hilary@mymishpocha.net" <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Romania SIG #Romania Re: Keshmer, Roumania?
#romania
LucR <luc.radu@...>
Bessarabia now Republic of Moldova
See https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/R=C4=83spopeni,_=C8=98old=C4=83ne=C8=99ti Luc Radu Great Neck, NY On 12/24/18, 9:07 AM, "Romania SIG on behalf of Hilary Henkin hilary@mymishpocha.net" <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Is there a restriction on taking photos of headstones (Metzevahs) in French Cemeteries?
#france
Jan Meisels Allen
In response to a posting I did on JewishGen and IAJGS I was advised that
there is a restriction in France in taking photos of cemetery headstones in French cemeteries. Can someone in France or someone who is aware of the practice or prohibition please let me know. What I am trying to find out is whether prior approval of next of kin or the cemetery is something in France or an outright ban on taking photos with or without permission in France. Thank you Below is the posting I did: Genealogists are cemetery-goers. We all do it to record information for our family histories and we take photographs of the headstones. Recently, I learned about the problem which may be unique to Western Australia,but I am not certain so I am asking if anyone, anywhere in the world, other than Western Australia, is aware of a policy that before photographing or videoing a cemetery headstone prior approval by next of kin is required. If you know of such a practice please let me know. History Recently, a posting on an Australian group for Australian Jewish Genealogy told that the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries Board put up signs prohibiting photography of graves without consent of next of kin. This applies to cemeteries in the Perth metro area. This covers both Jewish cemetery areas in general cemeteries and non-Jewish municipal cemeteries in Western Australia. While the stones themselves are in the public domain,prohibiting photography is a problem for genealogists. The Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries Board charges for taking photographs, but I don't know if that is what is behind their prohibition of obtaining next of kin permission. What happens if there is no living next of kin? According to the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries website (http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/) ) they are responsible for 6 cemeteries, several of which have Jewish sections. This is the rule >from their bylaws as amended in 1996: Recording on film or videotape Substituted 19/1/96 80 (1) A person shall not, without the prior approval of the Board,record on film or videotape any image or sound within a Cemetery. (2) A person shall not record on film or videotape a funeral, headstone or memorial within a Cemetery without the prior approval of the next of kin of the deceased person whose funeral, headstone or memorial is being recorded." Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee janmallen@att.net
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French SIG #France Is there a restriction on taking photos of headstones (Metzevahs) in French Cemeteries?
#france
Jan Meisels Allen
In response to a posting I did on JewishGen and IAJGS I was advised that
there is a restriction in France in taking photos of cemetery headstones in French cemeteries. Can someone in France or someone who is aware of the practice or prohibition please let me know. What I am trying to find out is whether prior approval of next of kin or the cemetery is something in France or an outright ban on taking photos with or without permission in France. Thank you Below is the posting I did: Genealogists are cemetery-goers. We all do it to record information for our family histories and we take photographs of the headstones. Recently, I learned about the problem which may be unique to Western Australia,but I am not certain so I am asking if anyone, anywhere in the world, other than Western Australia, is aware of a policy that before photographing or videoing a cemetery headstone prior approval by next of kin is required. If you know of such a practice please let me know. History Recently, a posting on an Australian group for Australian Jewish Genealogy told that the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries Board put up signs prohibiting photography of graves without consent of next of kin. This applies to cemeteries in the Perth metro area. This covers both Jewish cemetery areas in general cemeteries and non-Jewish municipal cemeteries in Western Australia. While the stones themselves are in the public domain,prohibiting photography is a problem for genealogists. The Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries Board charges for taking photographs, but I don't know if that is what is behind their prohibition of obtaining next of kin permission. What happens if there is no living next of kin? According to the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries website (http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/) ) they are responsible for 6 cemeteries, several of which have Jewish sections. This is the rule >from their bylaws as amended in 1996: Recording on film or videotape Substituted 19/1/96 80 (1) A person shall not, without the prior approval of the Board,record on film or videotape any image or sound within a Cemetery. (2) A person shall not record on film or videotape a funeral, headstone or memorial within a Cemetery without the prior approval of the next of kin of the deceased person whose funeral, headstone or memorial is being recorded." Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee janmallen@att.net
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Re: Family name KATZOFF - meaning
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Percy Mett
I do not know anything about the lumber trade, but a katzoff is a butcher
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Perets Mett London
On 25 Dec 2018,Yoni Ben-Ari wrote:
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family name KATZOFF - meaning
#general
Percy Mett
I do not know anything about the lumber trade, but a katzoff is a butcher
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Perets Mett London
On 25 Dec 2018,Yoni Ben-Ari wrote:
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New and Updated Databases on IGRA's Website
#general
Elena Bazes
The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new
and updated databases on its website. There are over 1,300,000 records available in our databases. We want to thank the participating archives and the many volunteers who have prepared these databases. With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection. A preview of the databases is available at https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/dec-2018-igrarelease New Databases Tel Aviv Census, Mahlul Neighborhood 1928 1,038 listings Information available include family name, first name, name of father, age, profession and address -- Hebrew. >from the Historical Municipal Archives of Tel Aviv-Yafo (Images available) Internees in Occupied Territories 1941-2 195 listings The forms are in Latin characters and include the name, age, amount of monthly relief received, the camp they were in, the last permanent address of record and nearest relatives or friends of British Subjects (Palestinian) interned in occupied France. >from the Israel State Archives. (Images available) Secret Fleet 275 listings This is part of our Illegal Immigration collection. The names are in English. The list comes >from "The Jews' Secret Fleet" by Murray S. Greenfield and Joseph M. Hochstein, Gefen Publishing House Ltd, 2010- "This is the dramatic story of the rescue of Jews >from Europe after World War II by North American Jewish volunteers. These men and their ships smashed through the British blockade and brought thousands of refugees to safe haven in Palestine." (No images) Altalena 1948 363 listings These are lists of those who were immigrants on the Altalena. The information available (in Latin characters) includes the name (first and last), date of birth, city and country of birth. >from the Jabotinsky Institute in Israel (Images available) Egged Employees 1949 289 listings Information available: family name, first name, address, sometimes a signature. >from the Egged Bus Co. Historical Archive -- Hebrew (Images available) Updated Databases Palestine Marriage/Divorce Certificates 2,618 listings Additional marriage/divorce certificates have been added to this impressive database. These certificates may be typed or handwritten and include names of bride and groom, their residence, the community they belong to, their age and their occupation. It also includes information names of the parents, their occupation and where they live. >from the Israel State Archives (Images available) "Operation on Eagles Wings", January 1950 2,138 Listings The names of the individuals participating in this extraordinary Aliyah are available and there is information about where they came from, the camp they were in, and some identifying information. There is a link at the bottom of the page which will take you to the pages with much more additional data. >from the JDC Archives (No images) 1963 Telephone Directory, Letters P-Q, second half of S 4,378 Listings The phone book is in English and the available information includes the name, address and phone number and possibly more. >from the Library of Congress (Images available) Voter List – Knesset Israel, Tel Aviv, (Appendix A, Letters tzadi - tuf) 1936 29,370 Listings The data available includes the name of the father, the age of the voter, sex of the individual, the community they were affiliated with and where they lived at that time. This database is in Hebrew. From the Historical Municipal Archives of Tel Aviv-Yaffo (Images available.) Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants. The search results page is also available to all registrants. Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific archives. Before viewing the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website: http://genealogy.org.il/ To view the databases, go to https://genealogy.org.il/AID/ Elena Biegel Bazes IGRA Publicity Chairperson
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New and Updated Databases on IGRA's Website
#general
Elena Bazes
The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new
and updated databases on its website. There are over 1,300,000 records available in our databases. We want to thank the participating archives and the many volunteers who have prepared these databases. With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection. A preview of the databases is available at https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/dec-2018-igrarelease New Databases Tel Aviv Census, Mahlul Neighborhood 1928 1,038 listings Information available include family name, first name, name of father, age, profession and address -- Hebrew. >from the Historical Municipal Archives of Tel Aviv-Yafo (Images available) Internees in Occupied Territories 1941-2 195 listings The forms are in Latin characters and include the name, age, amount of monthly relief received, the camp they were in, the last permanent address of record and nearest relatives or friends of British Subjects (Palestinian) interned in occupied France. >from the Israel State Archives. (Images available) Secret Fleet 275 listings This is part of our Illegal Immigration collection. The names are in English. The list comes >from "The Jews' Secret Fleet" by Murray S. Greenfield and Joseph M. Hochstein, Gefen Publishing House Ltd, 2010- "This is the dramatic story of the rescue of Jews >from Europe after World War II by North American Jewish volunteers. These men and their ships smashed through the British blockade and brought thousands of refugees to safe haven in Palestine." (No images) Altalena 1948 363 listings These are lists of those who were immigrants on the Altalena. The information available (in Latin characters) includes the name (first and last), date of birth, city and country of birth. >from the Jabotinsky Institute in Israel (Images available) Egged Employees 1949 289 listings Information available: family name, first name, address, sometimes a signature. >from the Egged Bus Co. Historical Archive -- Hebrew (Images available) Updated Databases Palestine Marriage/Divorce Certificates 2,618 listings Additional marriage/divorce certificates have been added to this impressive database. These certificates may be typed or handwritten and include names of bride and groom, their residence, the community they belong to, their age and their occupation. It also includes information names of the parents, their occupation and where they live. >from the Israel State Archives (Images available) "Operation on Eagles Wings", January 1950 2,138 Listings The names of the individuals participating in this extraordinary Aliyah are available and there is information about where they came from, the camp they were in, and some identifying information. There is a link at the bottom of the page which will take you to the pages with much more additional data. >from the JDC Archives (No images) 1963 Telephone Directory, Letters P-Q, second half of S 4,378 Listings The phone book is in English and the available information includes the name, address and phone number and possibly more. >from the Library of Congress (Images available) Voter List – Knesset Israel, Tel Aviv, (Appendix A, Letters tzadi - tuf) 1936 29,370 Listings The data available includes the name of the father, the age of the voter, sex of the individual, the community they were affiliated with and where they lived at that time. This database is in Hebrew. From the Historical Municipal Archives of Tel Aviv-Yaffo (Images available.) Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants. The search results page is also available to all registrants. Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific archives. Before viewing the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website: http://genealogy.org.il/ To view the databases, go to https://genealogy.org.il/AID/ Elena Biegel Bazes IGRA Publicity Chairperson
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Bavarian anti-Semitism
#germany
Over the years I heard it said that
a) Bavaria, even prior to the Nazification of Germany, had been for a long time one of the most systemically anti-Semitic parts of what was, under Bismarck, to become Germany. b) As a consequence, partly through Streicher's activities in Nuremberg, the Nuremberg rallies, the murder/assassination of Dr. Rudolf Benario in April 1933 - Jews >from Bavaria, were perhaps better forewarned, left earlier than Jews in other parts of Germany and proportionately less perished. Is this true or myth? I should be most grateful to hear GerSIG views. With all good wishes for 2019, Diana (Mohr) Gomes da Costa, Kent UK - formerly >from London - Researcher number: 166938 email: dianadacosta@btinternet.com Researches include ARNSTEIN, BACH, BASS, BERLIN, COHN, DITTMANN, FLACHFELD, GUETERMANN, HAHN, HELLMANN, HIRSCHMANN, KOHN, KRAILSHEIMER, KUGLER, LOEWI, MANES, MARX, MENDEL, MORGENTHAU, MOHR, ROSENFELD, ROSENWALD, UHLMANN, WEIKERSHEIMER and ZIRNDORFER - all originally >from Bavaria, mainly Furth, Nurnberg and Bamberg as listed in the JGFF database.
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German SIG #Germany Bavarian anti-Semitism
#germany
Over the years I heard it said that
a) Bavaria, even prior to the Nazification of Germany, had been for a long time one of the most systemically anti-Semitic parts of what was, under Bismarck, to become Germany. b) As a consequence, partly through Streicher's activities in Nuremberg, the Nuremberg rallies, the murder/assassination of Dr. Rudolf Benario in April 1933 - Jews >from Bavaria, were perhaps better forewarned, left earlier than Jews in other parts of Germany and proportionately less perished. Is this true or myth? I should be most grateful to hear GerSIG views. With all good wishes for 2019, Diana (Mohr) Gomes da Costa, Kent UK - formerly >from London - Researcher number: 166938 email: dianadacosta@btinternet.com Researches include ARNSTEIN, BACH, BASS, BERLIN, COHN, DITTMANN, FLACHFELD, GUETERMANN, HAHN, HELLMANN, HIRSCHMANN, KOHN, KRAILSHEIMER, KUGLER, LOEWI, MANES, MARX, MENDEL, MORGENTHAU, MOHR, ROSENFELD, ROSENWALD, UHLMANN, WEIKERSHEIMER and ZIRNDORFER - all originally >from Bavaria, mainly Furth, Nurnberg and Bamberg as listed in the JGFF database.
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