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Grave at Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn

Laurie
 

Hello JewishGenners,
After calling every cemetery in the Brooklyn/Queens area, I have
finally located the grave of my great great grandfather. He is buried
at Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn. The cemetery gave me a “possible”
location - post 403, row one, grave one - but warned that the “post”
might not be quite correct. I wondered if anyone in this group takes
regular trips out to this cemetery, and might be willing to help me
find the correct location of my great great grandfather’s grave and
take a picture. I have been searching for him for quite some time, so
this is very exciting! I wish I could go myself, but I am in
California.
Thank you so much!
Laurie Duchowny


Bela MESSINGER and Chune/Rozalia WOLF(S)THAL

Yaron Wolfsthal
 

Dear Group,

I am researching a branch of the WOLF(S)THAL family that moved from
Galicia to Hungary in the early 1900's.
They lived in Komorn (aka Komarom, Komarno) and perished in the Holocaust.

In MyHeritage, I found an entry from 02.06.2016 where a researcher
named V. KOVACKS was looking for information about Rozalia WOLFSTHAL,
whose father was the musician Chune WOLFSTHAL, and who married Bela
MESSINGER.

The above marriage connection between Chune WOLFSTHAL's daughter and
Bella MESSINGER (if it can be indeed established) would be a
breakthrough discovery in our family research,
Clearly, the posting of V Kovacs from 2016 (which I just discovered)
holds promise in this respect.

I reached out to several sources, including the JewishGen H-SIG group,
seeking a contact to the researcher V KOVACKS, and/or info about the
above-mentioned marriage connection of the WOLFSTHAL and MESSINGER
families. Regretfully, I got no response on either points.

I would appreciate any direction/insight to help me get ahead with
this difficult research question.

Thank you,
Prof. Yaron Wolfsthal, Ben-Gurion University, Israel


2019 IAJGS Conference.... #france

Rosanne Leeson
 

Dear FrenchSIG Members,

Pierre and I are hoping to attend this year's IAJGS Conference in San
Diego. We would like to hear >from any of you also planning to come,
and perhaps to even present a paper.  Time is getting short!

We need to discuss the future of the SIG, which has nearly 1000
subscribers! Please give this matter serious consideration, or the SIG
will sadly come to an end! Surely there must be some among you who are
willing to step up and to keep it rolling along, as it has since 1997!

Do let us hear >from you, and send us your thoughts ASAP!

Rosanne Leeson
Pierre Hahn
Co-Coordinators


French SIG #France 2019 IAJGS Conference.... #france

Rosanne Leeson
 

Dear FrenchSIG Members,

Pierre and I are hoping to attend this year's IAJGS Conference in San
Diego. We would like to hear >from any of you also planning to come,
and perhaps to even present a paper.  Time is getting short!

We need to discuss the future of the SIG, which has nearly 1000
subscribers! Please give this matter serious consideration, or the SIG
will sadly come to an end! Surely there must be some among you who are
willing to step up and to keep it rolling along, as it has since 1997!

Do let us hear >from you, and send us your thoughts ASAP!

Rosanne Leeson
Pierre Hahn
Co-Coordinators


FW: Indexng records

Bob Silverstein
 

I have about 1,400 records to be indexed. Each record is a photograph of an index card with yahrzeit information. In the past, we have simply displayed the image alongside of an Excel spreadsheet and entered the information. The images are not good enough for OCR. Does anyone have a better way of doing this?

Bob Silverstein


Re: Legal source for UK Internments

Tony Hausner
 

My parents who were Jewish were interned on the Isle of Man as well as other relatives, aunts, etc. from 1939 to 1940.  They had escaped from Austria after the anschluss. They were in separate camps as men and women were separated.  My mother kept my father's letter and they have been shared with several museums, etc.  The Isle of Man Manx Museum has extensive materials and an exhibit about both internment periods.  I can put you in touch with staff there if interested.  It would be useful to start a group of persons who's families were interned.  


Re: Legal source for UK Internments

Eva Lawrence
 


I can't give you specific references, as I haven't studied the laws in detail. However,  I don't think that you will find any specific law that legalises those actions. They would have been  covered by a much more general act that gave the executive powers  for any measures that protected the security of the country under all circumstances. Also there was an Official Secrets Act,   so that everything like this was kept under wraps until quite recently.  Yes, I'm sure there was an emergency order from the Home Office, but certainly not a proclamation - secrecy was always a concern, and of course was one factor in Britain's eventual victory. Much of the wartime correspondence is now in the UK National Archives at Kew, and can be trawled through by interested researchers.  In particular, I've seen some an excellent overview of the Home Office interment policy, but I'm afraid I didn't notice the story of the Dunera being mentioned.   In the light of the population's  war-time  sacrifices and deaths from enemy action. it was "just one of those things". On your side of the pond, the phrase "there's a war on" didn't imply quite such a immediate threat. 
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


How to prove family story about article in the Jewish forward newspaper

sacredsisters1977@...
 

Hi All
One of my ancestral lines is surname Rakovschik from Minsk. One brother named isidore left behind 4 children, back in 1914 to settle in America via Canada.  The other brother David was already settled in Canada years earlier, but did settle in America about 1916.  Isidore apparently got too settled that he forgot about his children which is sad in itself. So the story goes as from what I heard, was that David saw an article in the Jewish forward. The article stated that isidore's children need to be sent for to come to America. Now there has to be truth to this story, for I have the 1926 and 1927 passenger manifest for all 4 kids. The two sons, came one year and the two sisters the other year. They arrived in April of both years. How do I proove this. How can I find this mysterious article in the newspaper. I have no idea what language the article was sent in, but assume Yiddish or English since he was in America. Any suggestions on how to do this. I would love to find this article. All four kids, were in an orphanage I think before coming to America.

Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters1977@...
USA-CT


Re: More on USCIS Proposes Fee Increases - has this been posted on FB groups, yet? #United States

Marilen Pitler
 

As I had asked in a prior post (I had two typos of which I'm horribly embarrassed), do you know of any petitions? Perhaps the group spearheading this could create one. 
A petition may gain more traction than letter writing. Marilen Pitler, St. Louis


Re: Deportations from France #france #holocaust

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
There is often a feeling by foreign people, specially American, that Shoah is forgotten in France and not many places are dedicated to memory and researches.
This feeling could have been true till 70's and also because even now, most our web sites aren't translated in English, nobody is perfect.
But France is able to face its history and concerning French Jews,  a real memory work has been well engaged for decades by numerous associations, institutions and private searchers as I am.
To Jean-Pierre Stroweis's answer, I wish to add :
  • Memorial de la Shoah in Paris is totally comparable to USHMM : a memorial, a museum, a documentation center (created in 1943, even before war's end) and a web site. http://ressources.memorialdelashoah.org/
  • deportees' list has been made by Serge Klarsfeld from nazis convoys lists established directly at deportation center as Drancy : his "memorial book", as "Shoah" movie by Claude Lanzman, are masterpieces for humanity memory of Shoah. 
  • you can search this list directly on Memorial de la Shoah web site, with an advantage to Steve Morse's site : you will find pictures and documents which could be added to each deportee's file by family members :http://ressources.memorialdelashoah.org/rechav_pers.php
  • Serge Klarsfeld compiled also  "Memorial des enfants ", "Children' memorial deported from France" with a page for each of 11.4000 children, including name and picture.
  • as I said, a lot of official / non official institutions / associations have some archives concerning Jews and Shoah in France and you must search one by one : Jean-Pierre Stroweis made this list in English, thank you Jean-Pierre ! https://genealogy.org.il/holocaust-france-resource-guide/
  • Among searchers, we know there are more archives which surely are to be investigated in each "department" archives, department being our territory division since French Revolution, i.e. 95 departments and so 95 archives in continental France...
  • If you know that your ancestors had obtained French nationality, their application file can be copied at French National Archives : between 20 and 40 pages of documents where they told a lot about their family and their life since they left the "old country".
As you can read, this is not because you don't hear or read often from us that we don't fulfill our duty of memory.

khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives and history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring of France (Workmen Circle)
Jewish genealogy detective of Polish roots


Re: Legal source for UK Internments

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

Dear Judith

 

Actually there are countless sources of useful information about this topic, and not only on the website of the UK National Archives at Kew, although one reference there appears to me to be particularly helpful, setting the context from WW1 onwards: https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/enemy-aliens-great-britain-1914-1919/.

 

This should also be read in the context of the 1905 Aliens Act which replaced the 1836 Act and set up a new system of immigration control and registration and giving responsibility to the Home Secretary for all matters of immigration and nationality.

 

There is a plethora of available reading material, but a good starting point is the excellent but now archived “Moving Here” Jewish Migration History website – see https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/jewish/settling/settling.htm#refugees_from_nazism

 

Also, a book that I would particularly recommend is called Living with the Wire, which is now in its 3rd edition Edited by Yvonne M. Cresswell as well as other resources available from the Manx (Isle of Man) Government http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/famhist/genealgy/intern.htm

 

You may find other information and background reading in the online Journal of the Association of Jewish Refugees https://ajr.org.uk/

 

I spoke on this subject at the IAJGS Conference in Warsaw in 2018 – my talk was “Incarceration & Legal Restrictions on European Refugees in the UK during the 1930s and 1940s Refugee experiences in the UK before & during WW2”.  You can find a copy of the handout from my conference talk on my blog at https://round2itgenealogy.wordpress.com/2018/08/07/iajgs-2018-incarceration-and-legal-restrictions/

 

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

 

Kind regards

 

Jeanette

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE

London UK

Jeanette.R.Rosenberg@...


Translation of 1913 death record from Michelfeld, Baden - ViewMate #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

I've posted a vital record in handwritten German for which I need a
translation and transliteration. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75946

The most vital information in this record is already known but I'd
appreciate a complete transliteration and translation. It should allow me to
to read and understand similar records >from that time period
concerning this great grandfather's wife other members of my family.

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC


German SIG #Germany Translation of 1913 death record from Michelfeld, Baden - ViewMate #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

I've posted a vital record in handwritten German for which I need a
translation and transliteration. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75946

The most vital information in this record is already known but I'd
appreciate a complete transliteration and translation. It should allow me to
to read and understand similar records >from that time period
concerning this great grandfather's wife other members of my family.

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC


ViewMate - help in deciphering two names in a document in German #germany

Emanuel Blanco <eblanco33@...>
 

Hello,

I've posted a letter in German for which I need help in deciphering
two names that I have underlined. Though the letter is in German, the
names that are hard to decipher may be Israeli/Hebrew names
transcribed to German.
The two names appear twice, but somewhat differently.
It is on ViewMate at the following addresses (two page letter):
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75870
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75871

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much, Emanuel Blanco


German SIG #Germany ViewMate - help in deciphering two names in a document in German #germany

Emanuel Blanco <eblanco33@...>
 

Hello,

I've posted a letter in German for which I need help in deciphering
two names that I have underlined. Though the letter is in German, the
names that are hard to decipher may be Israeli/Hebrew names
transcribed to German.
The two names appear twice, but somewhat differently.
It is on ViewMate at the following addresses (two page letter):
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75870
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75871

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much, Emanuel Blanco


Re: Kamenetz Podolsky records #ukraine

Alan Shuchat
 

The URL tinyurl.com/qraxect takes to you to Alex Krakovsky's page but needs to be translated to be used in English. Here's a page that is already in English
tinyurl.com/krakovsky, but this isn't organized by location as nicely as the first link.


Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The first url takes you directly to Alex's page, which is updated in
real time. The second one takes you to another organization's page in English for
which there is a lag of some period of time for updates. The Google Chrome browser
will render Alex's page in English. This is the end of this thread.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Kamenetz Podolsky records #ukraine

Alan Shuchat
 

The URL tinyurl.com/qraxect takes to you to Alex Krakovsky's page but needs to be translated to be used in English. Here's a page that is already in English
tinyurl.com/krakovsky, but this isn't organized by location as nicely as the first link.


Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The first url takes you directly to Alex's page, which is updated in
real time. The second one takes you to another organization's page in English for
which there is a lag of some period of time for updates. The Google Chrome browser
will render Alex's page in English. This is the end of this thread.


Viewmate request - Hebrew gravestone in Bzenec #austria-czech

Michael Gordy
 

I have posted a photo of the grave of Amalie (geb Frisch) Low in
Bzenec. I would be grateful to have a reading of information of
genealogical importance. Full translation not needed. Thank you!

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75972

Michael Gordy
Takoma Park, Maryland, USA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Viewmate request - Hebrew gravestone in Bzenec #austria-czech

Michael Gordy
 

I have posted a photo of the grave of Amalie (geb Frisch) Low in
Bzenec. I would be grateful to have a reading of information of
genealogical importance. Full translation not needed. Thank you!

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75972

Michael Gordy
Takoma Park, Maryland, USA


Legal source for UK Internments

Richard Gilbert
 

Hi Judith

This link suggests that internment of enemy aliens during WWII was a power derived under UK law from WWI. In 1914 all aliens over the age of 16 had to register their details at local police offices, a requirement of the 1914 Aliens Registration Act (4 & 5 Geo. V c.12


This link to an article about the 1914 & 1919 Aliens Restrictions Acts should explain more also https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/enemy-aliens-great-britain-1914-1919/ .

I hope this helps.

Richard Gilbert
Hertfordshire, England

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