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Response to question regarding the "Evakuatsia" from Bendery in 1940 by Jules Feldman.
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
In a previous "introducing ourselves" post, Jules Feldman in Israel related part of his
family history and asked "Can anyone add details on the "Evakuatsia" >from Bendery in 1940?" The Soviet Union invaded Bessarabia on June 28, of 1940 (1918-1940 Bessarabia was part of Romania). Many of the Jews and non-Jews with some wealth were sent by Soviets to Siberia... among them owners of 'large' stores, owners of buildings, land, farms, etc. My relative who owned a vineyard, and houses, perished in Siberia. My mother remembers how people were round up by NKVD, and had no time to prepare and were put into wagons used to move cows and most likely no one seen these people anymore. Nazis started the war with Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, and many Jews from Bessarabia (more in the south) were able to evacuate. They even got some help >from local government... but many who remained were killed either by Romanian-German troops or by locals. My parents lived in a shteitl Kaushany, which is only 13 miles from Bendery... and they evacuated in the beginning of July, 1941 on a cart with oxen to the town of Tiraspol, and on the train to the East, settling in a village in Uzbekistan. Yefim Kogan JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Coordinator Researching Kogan, Spivak, Khaymovich, Srulevich, Levit in Kaushany, Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, Khaimovich in Galatz, Romania.
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Help with Hungarian into English translation
#subcarpathia
I am looking for someone to help translate letters >from my Great Great =
Grandfather to his children, which are in Hungarian. Please contact me at dssprl@aol.com My name is David Sperling The letters are to and >from Ungvar [Uzgarod, Ukraine] to and >from = Budapest and are >from 1875 to 1878 Thank you
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Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Response to question regarding the "Evakuatsia" from Bendery in 1940 by Jules Feldman.
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
In a previous "introducing ourselves" post, Jules Feldman in Israel related part of his
family history and asked "Can anyone add details on the "Evakuatsia" >from Bendery in 1940?" The Soviet Union invaded Bessarabia on June 28, of 1940 (1918-1940 Bessarabia was part of Romania). Many of the Jews and non-Jews with some wealth were sent by Soviets to Siberia... among them owners of 'large' stores, owners of buildings, land, farms, etc. My relative who owned a vineyard, and houses, perished in Siberia. My mother remembers how people were round up by NKVD, and had no time to prepare and were put into wagons used to move cows and most likely no one seen these people anymore. Nazis started the war with Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, and many Jews from Bessarabia (more in the south) were able to evacuate. They even got some help >from local government... but many who remained were killed either by Romanian-German troops or by locals. My parents lived in a shteitl Kaushany, which is only 13 miles from Bendery... and they evacuated in the beginning of July, 1941 on a cart with oxen to the town of Tiraspol, and on the train to the East, settling in a village in Uzbekistan. Yefim Kogan JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Coordinator Researching Kogan, Spivak, Khaymovich, Srulevich, Levit in Kaushany, Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, Khaimovich in Galatz, Romania.
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Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Help with Hungarian into English translation
#subcarpathia
I am looking for someone to help translate letters >from my Great Great =
Grandfather to his children, which are in Hungarian. Please contact me at dssprl@aol.com My name is David Sperling The letters are to and >from Ungvar [Uzgarod, Ukraine] to and >from = Budapest and are >from 1875 to 1878 Thank you
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Education: Beyond the Basics and Breaking Brick Walls in the U.S.
#unitedkingdom
bounce-2371367-785714@...
Today we are announcing two advanced courses:
1.Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering Beyond the Basics, an Independent Study class, Feb 22-March 25th 2012. Your topic, your schedule, your questions. Is this course right for you? Please read the details at http://www.jewishgen.org/education, then send your qualifying paragraph to Nancy Holden any time after February 10, 2012 for consideration. Students will be notified of enrollment procedures by email (Enrollment is limited to 12-15 students). 2.Breaking Down Brick Walls in the United States begins March 12th. This course is for researchers who have completed the basics (census, vital records, ellis island), and wish to understand Naturalization, Government Records, Newspapers, Archives and other more complex research. For both classes the details, requirements, tuition and enrollment procedures are at http://www.jewishgen.org/education. There is also a video on the bottom of our education page which describes the format of the classes. For questions, please email JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org Thankyou and happy hunting! Phyllis Kramer, V.P., Education Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Education: Beyond the Basics and Breaking Brick Walls in the U.S.
#unitedkingdom
bounce-2371367-785714@...
Today we are announcing two advanced courses:
1.Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering Beyond the Basics, an Independent Study class, Feb 22-March 25th 2012. Your topic, your schedule, your questions. Is this course right for you? Please read the details at http://www.jewishgen.org/education, then send your qualifying paragraph to Nancy Holden any time after February 10, 2012 for consideration. Students will be notified of enrollment procedures by email (Enrollment is limited to 12-15 students). 2.Breaking Down Brick Walls in the United States begins March 12th. This course is for researchers who have completed the basics (census, vital records, ellis island), and wish to understand Naturalization, Government Records, Newspapers, Archives and other more complex research. For both classes the details, requirements, tuition and enrollment procedures are at http://www.jewishgen.org/education. There is also a video on the bottom of our education page which describes the format of the classes. For questions, please email JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org Thankyou and happy hunting! Phyllis Kramer, V.P., Education Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager
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Re: Naming practices, early 19th Century Bavaria
#germany
Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
Martha,
Naming practices varied >from family to family. I remember Michael Barnett denying any variation >from the Eastern European tradition because his family kept that. Well others did change pattern, and several of my families did, specifically. One thing I have learned in genealogy is to never say never (or always). Genealogy is finding out what your family did, not what some rule or tradition was. So Michael Barnett's family could have lived down the road >from mine, but the kids were named differently. If Naomi was the first daughter that you know of, do you actually know that she was the first daughter? Another baby might have died soon after birth, which might change the pattern if your family followed it. There is also the problem with name variation. One of my gg grandmothers had 20 kids with registered births in a small town in Hesse. Her name was somewhat different on each record. Reiz, Rosa, Regina, Rachel, all sorts of things starting with R. One daughter was registered as Regina, and my ggrandmother was Rachel, but Rachel sometimes used Regina. How can you keep track of the kids, I don't know? Anyway, as with much of genealogy, there are a lot of challanges. Certainly, in Europe nobody was Jack or Harry. George, I think, was used in Germany - I am not sure of that. In my family, Harry is used in the US for Aaron, although one Harry was Wolf (it was what you liked often, my grandmother Matilda was born Rosa). Jack could have been Yakutiel - or just a common American name. In most small towns in Europe, if records exist, it is easy to know who the parent of the baby was. If the records don't exist, then you have to see if you can find any records of people in the town, then sort them out if you can; but you have to be careful not to assume that them name that you know was the father of your ancestor, as he may have had 4 brothers who weren't mentioned. Often there were several descendents of the same family, as in Kuelsheim, which was full of Bruckheimers, so a holocaust survivor >from there thought Bruckheimer a common name - but I had a copy of the Bruckheimer family tree, courtesy of other cousins, so I knew how he was related to me. As for 'authorities', I would suggest any Jewish genealogy book or the Jewishgen archives. Sally Bruckheimer Piscataway, NJ Martha asked: "Sally, do you have any references on the naming practice you describe below? Where it was prevalent - anything? The reason I ask is that the we have little information about my great-grandparents' first names - however their first child (a daughter) was named Naomi - her mother's mother may have been Naomi (not certain) and we have no info about her father's mother; their first son appears to have been named after his father's father. Are you confused yet? Avraham ben Yaakov and Chena bat Avram (but I question bat Avram)'s children are: 1. daughter Naomi 2. son Jack and two more sons, Harry and George. (What names might "Harry" and "George" derive from?)"
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming practices, early 19th Century Bavaria
#general
Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
Martha,
Naming practices varied >from family to family. I remember Michael Barnett denying any variation >from the Eastern European tradition because his family kept that. Well others did change pattern, and several of my families did, specifically. One thing I have learned in genealogy is to never say never (or always). Genealogy is finding out what your family did, not what some rule or tradition was. So Michael Barnett's family could have lived down the road >from mine, but the kids were named differently. If Naomi was the first daughter that you know of, do you actually know that she was the first daughter? Another baby might have died soon after birth, which might change the pattern if your family followed it. There is also the problem with name variation. One of my gg grandmothers had 20 kids with registered births in a small town in Hesse. Her name was somewhat different on each record. Reiz, Rosa, Regina, Rachel, all sorts of things starting with R. One daughter was registered as Regina, and my ggrandmother was Rachel, but Rachel sometimes used Regina. How can you keep track of the kids, I don't know? Anyway, as with much of genealogy, there are a lot of challanges. Certainly, in Europe nobody was Jack or Harry. George, I think, was used in Germany - I am not sure of that. In my family, Harry is used in the US for Aaron, although one Harry was Wolf (it was what you liked often, my grandmother Matilda was born Rosa). Jack could have been Yakutiel - or just a common American name. In most small towns in Europe, if records exist, it is easy to know who the parent of the baby was. If the records don't exist, then you have to see if you can find any records of people in the town, then sort them out if you can; but you have to be careful not to assume that them name that you know was the father of your ancestor, as he may have had 4 brothers who weren't mentioned. Often there were several descendents of the same family, as in Kuelsheim, which was full of Bruckheimers, so a holocaust survivor >from there thought Bruckheimer a common name - but I had a copy of the Bruckheimer family tree, courtesy of other cousins, so I knew how he was related to me. As for 'authorities', I would suggest any Jewish genealogy book or the Jewishgen archives. Sally Bruckheimer Piscataway, NJ Martha asked: "Sally, do you have any references on the naming practice you describe below? Where it was prevalent - anything? The reason I ask is that the we have little information about my great-grandparents' first names - however their first child (a daughter) was named Naomi - her mother's mother may have been Naomi (not certain) and we have no info about her father's mother; their first son appears to have been named after his father's father. Are you confused yet? Avraham ben Yaakov and Chena bat Avram (but I question bat Avram)'s children are: 1. daughter Naomi 2. son Jack and two more sons, Harry and George. (What names might "Harry" and "George" derive from?)"
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Re: Anybody near Har Nebo cemetery in Philadelphia?
#general
Mark London <mrl@...>
Sorry, ignore my request. I just did some more searching on the person
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who's gravestone we thought might be a newly relative, but it turned out the person wasn't related. Mark London Mark London wrote:
Hi - Is anyone close to Har Nebo cemetery (or will be going there in
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Anybody near Har Nebo cemetery in Philadelphia?
#general
Mark London <mrl@...>
Sorry, ignore my request. I just did some more searching on the person
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who's gravestone we thought might be a newly relative, but it turned out the person wasn't related. Mark London Mark London wrote:
Hi - Is anyone close to Har Nebo cemetery (or will be going there in
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Yizkor Books In Print Project volunteers with graphic skills
#romania
bounce-2371420-772976@...
Shalom,
The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images, copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library, for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor Books. All the best, Lance Ackerfeld Yizkor Book Project Manager
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Romania SIG #Romania Yizkor Books In Print Project volunteers with graphic skills
#romania
bounce-2371420-772976@...
Shalom,
The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images, copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library, for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor Books. All the best, Lance Ackerfeld Yizkor Book Project Manager
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Yizkor Books In Print Project volunteers with graphic skills
#france
bounce-2371420-772957@...
Shalom,
The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images, copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library, for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor Books. All the best, Lance Ackerfeld Yizkor Book Project Manager
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French SIG #France Yizkor Books In Print Project volunteers with graphic skills
#france
bounce-2371420-772957@...
Shalom,
The "Yizkor Books In Print Project" is looking for about 5 volunteers to help process images for new books to be published. The volunteers should have Photoshop or similar software to be able to open PDF files with images, copy and crop the images of photographs, illustrations, maps and create JPEG files of the individual images, so that they can be inserted into the text files by our layout volunteers. If you can devote a minimum of an hour or two a week to help with this project, please contact Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project whose address can be found at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip.html Background: We are fortunate to have just reached an agreement with the National Yiddish Book Center in Holyoke, MA and the New York Public Library, for use of their PDF files of high resolution scanned images of photos and maps and illustrations of their huge collection of Yizkor Books. This will insure high quality reproduction of the images >from the original Yizkor Books. All the best, Lance Ackerfeld Yizkor Book Project Manager
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Re: Suggestions on how to trace descendants in France. (I lost the email of the person who said they were going to the naturalization archives).
#france
mrl@...
Hi - Someone on this list told me that they were going to be going to
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the archives that contain naturalization records, but not right away. I lost your email somehow. Can you please send me your email again? I am in no rush, so I would be willing to wait, as I have not had any other offers. Thanks. - Mark
Sam APFELBERGH (with a "H" at the end of the name)
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Education: Beyond the Basics and Breaking Brick Walls in the U.S.
#france
bounce-2371367-772957@...
Today we are announcing two advanced courses:
1.Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering Beyond the Basics, an Independent Study class, Feb 22-March 25th 2012. Your topic, your schedule, your questions. Is this course right for you? Please read the details at http://www.jewishgen.org/education, then send your qualifying paragraph to Nancy Holden any time after February 10, 2012 for consideration. Students will be notified of enrollment procedures by email (Enrollment is limited to 12-15 students). 2.Breaking Down Brick Walls in the United States begins March 12th. This course is for researchers who have completed the basics (census, vital records, ellis island), and wish to understand Naturalization, Government Records, Newspapers, Archives and other more complex research. For both classes the details, requirements, tuition and enrollment procedures are at http://www.jewishgen.org/education. There is also a video on the bottom of our education page which describes the format of the classes. For questions, please email JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org Thank you and happy hunting! Phyllis Kramer, V.P., Education Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager
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French SIG #France Re: Suggestions on how to trace descendants in France. (I lost the email of the person who said they were going to the naturalization archives).
#france
mrl@...
Hi - Someone on this list told me that they were going to be going to
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
the archives that contain naturalization records, but not right away. I lost your email somehow. Can you please send me your email again? I am in no rush, so I would be willing to wait, as I have not had any other offers. Thanks. - Mark
Sam APFELBERGH (with a "H" at the end of the name)
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French SIG #France Education: Beyond the Basics and Breaking Brick Walls in the U.S.
#france
bounce-2371367-772957@...
Today we are announcing two advanced courses:
1.Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering Beyond the Basics, an Independent Study class, Feb 22-March 25th 2012. Your topic, your schedule, your questions. Is this course right for you? Please read the details at http://www.jewishgen.org/education, then send your qualifying paragraph to Nancy Holden any time after February 10, 2012 for consideration. Students will be notified of enrollment procedures by email (Enrollment is limited to 12-15 students). 2.Breaking Down Brick Walls in the United States begins March 12th. This course is for researchers who have completed the basics (census, vital records, ellis island), and wish to understand Naturalization, Government Records, Newspapers, Archives and other more complex research. For both classes the details, requirements, tuition and enrollment procedures are at http://www.jewishgen.org/education. There is also a video on the bottom of our education page which describes the format of the classes. For questions, please email JewishGen-Education@lyris.JewishGen.org Thank you and happy hunting! Phyllis Kramer, V.P., Education Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager
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Paris burials
#france
Israel P
Is there a way to search for Paris burials for 1962, when all I have is a
surname and the parents' given names? (I have a given name for the deceased, but it is Yiddish, so it may not be what he used for official documents.) I do not have a precise date nor do I know that he died in Paris. He was not married and had no children. Israel Pickholtz Jerusalem
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French SIG #France Paris burials
#france
Israel P
Is there a way to search for Paris burials for 1962, when all I have is a
surname and the parents' given names? (I have a given name for the deceased, but it is Yiddish, so it may not be what he used for official documents.) I do not have a precise date nor do I know that he died in Paris. He was not married and had no children. Israel Pickholtz Jerusalem
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