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For those of you who have AOL ver. 6 #lodz #poland

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From: "Carol Skydell" <cskydell@jewishgen.org>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:45:27 -0800
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Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland For those of you who have AOL ver. 6 #lodz #poland

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Subject: For those of you who have AOL ver. 6
From: "Carol Skydell" <cskydell@jewishgen.org>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:45:27 -0800
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AOL 6.0 does not support the plain text format required in posts to any
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agad #galicia

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

I can not remember nor can I find in my books and papers..what does AGAD
stand for?
Gayle


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia agad #galicia

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

I can not remember nor can I find in my books and papers..what does AGAD
stand for?
Gayle


Nowy Sacz area and migration from Austria #galicia

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Dear Galizianers,

The previous posting on records >from the Nowy Sacz
area and Jewish migration raised some intriguing
possibilities about a branch of my family that has
become more of a mystery every time I get a new piece
of information about them, and I'd love to get your
feedback on it.
My grandmother had always thought that her family
(last names CORNRICH, WILDSTEIN, BUCHWALD)had
originated in or near Graz, Austria. They came to the
U.S. in 1911; my grandmother was born in Camden N.J.,
but most of ger older siblings were born in Europe.
She always assumed that whatever extended family was
left in Europe had perished in the Holocuast; in any
case, the relatives her mother used to write to had
dropped out of sight. My grandmother lost her father
when she was an infant in the 1918 flu pandemic, and
her mother died shortly after my grandmother was
married (which would have been 1938-1939,
approximately). My grandmother was still very young,
and the Depression was on, so they were more concerned
with putting food on the table than with schmoozing
about fmaily history, which my grandmother is now
deeply regretting, now that I am trying to show her
that it may be possible to find living family members.
Anyway, a couple of months ago, a wonderful
Jewsihgenner sent me a copy of the ticket purchase
book, showing my ggf's purchase (he was already living
in Camden, NJ) of ship tickets for the wife and kids
from Bremen to Philadelphia. Here's the wild part:
the address where they were living before departure
was in Labowa, Poland. I looked and found it, about
75 miles >from Krakow and about 10 >from Nowy Sacz.
Ever since, I've been brainstorming to figure out how
they might have gotten >from Graz to Nowy Sacz or vice
versa: my granmother never remembers anyone talking
about Poland, but let it slip a while back that her
mother was fluent in Polish. If there was a mass
migration >from Vienna to Galicia, then could that have
extended to the Graz area, although that's pretty far
from Vienna? Any other ideas on where I might look
for records?
Sincerely,
Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Nowy Sacz area and migration from Austria #galicia

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Dear Galizianers,

The previous posting on records >from the Nowy Sacz
area and Jewish migration raised some intriguing
possibilities about a branch of my family that has
become more of a mystery every time I get a new piece
of information about them, and I'd love to get your
feedback on it.
My grandmother had always thought that her family
(last names CORNRICH, WILDSTEIN, BUCHWALD)had
originated in or near Graz, Austria. They came to the
U.S. in 1911; my grandmother was born in Camden N.J.,
but most of ger older siblings were born in Europe.
She always assumed that whatever extended family was
left in Europe had perished in the Holocuast; in any
case, the relatives her mother used to write to had
dropped out of sight. My grandmother lost her father
when she was an infant in the 1918 flu pandemic, and
her mother died shortly after my grandmother was
married (which would have been 1938-1939,
approximately). My grandmother was still very young,
and the Depression was on, so they were more concerned
with putting food on the table than with schmoozing
about fmaily history, which my grandmother is now
deeply regretting, now that I am trying to show her
that it may be possible to find living family members.
Anyway, a couple of months ago, a wonderful
Jewsihgenner sent me a copy of the ticket purchase
book, showing my ggf's purchase (he was already living
in Camden, NJ) of ship tickets for the wife and kids
from Bremen to Philadelphia. Here's the wild part:
the address where they were living before departure
was in Labowa, Poland. I looked and found it, about
75 miles >from Krakow and about 10 >from Nowy Sacz.
Ever since, I've been brainstorming to figure out how
they might have gotten >from Graz to Nowy Sacz or vice
versa: my granmother never remembers anyone talking
about Poland, but let it slip a while back that her
mother was fluent in Polish. If there was a mass
migration >from Vienna to Galicia, then could that have
extended to the Graz area, although that's pretty far
from Vienna? Any other ideas on where I might look
for records?
Sincerely,
Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

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Help dating Photos - VM350 #galicia

ANURICK@...
 

I have just posted to JewishGen Viewmate two photos. Can anyone help me date
these photos? I believe them to be a portrait of either Rafael Fridman & his
wife or Chaim Joseph Fridman and his wife >from Suwalki province Lithuania in
the 1800s. When the photos were taken will help me determine just which of
these men & their wives this is as I know their birth & death dates. Can
anyone date these by the clothing or furniture or carpet or by translating
the words at the bottom? Your assistance is most appreciated. Visit Viewmate
at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Rick Ford anurick@aol.com

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Help dating Photos - VM350 #galicia

ANURICK@...
 

I have just posted to JewishGen Viewmate two photos. Can anyone help me date
these photos? I believe them to be a portrait of either Rafael Fridman & his
wife or Chaim Joseph Fridman and his wife >from Suwalki province Lithuania in
the 1800s. When the photos were taken will help me determine just which of
these men & their wives this is as I know their birth & death dates. Can
anyone date these by the clothing or furniture or carpet or by translating
the words at the bottom? Your assistance is most appreciated. Visit Viewmate
at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Rick Ford anurick@aol.com

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Wisnicz - Vienna - Chasidim #galicia

Scott D. Seligman <heyscott@...>
 

Rafael: Can you elaborate a bit more on the Vienna migration mentioned
below? Why did this occur, and when did the trend accelerate? I have a
gaggle of Sternreich relatives who lived in Wisnicz in the early 19th
century and I am dumbstruck that they might have been Chasidim...it simply
never occurred to me to ask. Can you point me to any sources on these
topics?

Best,

Scott Seligman


Subject: Re: Visnice and Novy Sacz
From: Talner@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:08:12 EST
X-Message-Number: 2

The Village of Visnice (for some reason often confused with Vishnitz in
Bucovina) is in Western Galicia near Novy Sacz (Sanz) and near other famous
towns like Brezko. (Brigel in Yiddish), Liminov, Bochnia other villages too
numerous to mention. This is the area south of Krakow and west of Aushwitz
and was among other things near the great western Galicia salt deposits.

Many of those who have origins in this area had family who took part on the
great Vienna migration dating to the mid 19th century through the
interbellum
period of the early 1930's. Some also ended up in Western Hungary and what
became officially known as Burgenland after 1921. ( the area in South
Eastern
Austria famous for the Sheva Kehillot - The Seven Holy Cities, the most well
known of which is Eisenstadt). Many also came to America.

For those who actually have origins in Visnice, its virtually impossible
that
their ancestors were not Chassidim. By the 1870's this area was one of the
strongest Chassidic enclaves in all of Europe. Many if the inhabitants of
Visnice were in fact followers of the Sanzer Chassidic dynasty. I wish I had
more time to discuss this but I have to run. I hope this helps a little.

Good Luck

Rafael Guber


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Wisnicz - Vienna - Chasidim #galicia

Scott D. Seligman <heyscott@...>
 

Rafael: Can you elaborate a bit more on the Vienna migration mentioned
below? Why did this occur, and when did the trend accelerate? I have a
gaggle of Sternreich relatives who lived in Wisnicz in the early 19th
century and I am dumbstruck that they might have been Chasidim...it simply
never occurred to me to ask. Can you point me to any sources on these
topics?

Best,

Scott Seligman


Subject: Re: Visnice and Novy Sacz
From: Talner@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:08:12 EST
X-Message-Number: 2

The Village of Visnice (for some reason often confused with Vishnitz in
Bucovina) is in Western Galicia near Novy Sacz (Sanz) and near other famous
towns like Brezko. (Brigel in Yiddish), Liminov, Bochnia other villages too
numerous to mention. This is the area south of Krakow and west of Aushwitz
and was among other things near the great western Galicia salt deposits.

Many of those who have origins in this area had family who took part on the
great Vienna migration dating to the mid 19th century through the
interbellum
period of the early 1930's. Some also ended up in Western Hungary and what
became officially known as Burgenland after 1921. ( the area in South
Eastern
Austria famous for the Sheva Kehillot - The Seven Holy Cities, the most well
known of which is Eisenstadt). Many also came to America.

For those who actually have origins in Visnice, its virtually impossible
that
their ancestors were not Chassidim. By the 1870's this area was one of the
strongest Chassidic enclaves in all of Europe. Many if the inhabitants of
Visnice were in fact followers of the Sanzer Chassidic dynasty. I wish I had
more time to discuss this but I have to run. I hope this helps a little.

Good Luck

Rafael Guber


Re: Simonstown Jewish Community #southafrica

Stan Hart <stanhart@...>
 

My wife is related to the Reuben Juter mentioned in the letter below.
Would you like me to make contact with him and ask him for any particular
information?

Stan Hart
P.O. Box 2296
Durban 4000
South Africa

Tel : (+27-31) 261-6659
Fax : (+27-31) 261-6810
Mobile : (+27) (0) 83-500-6659
e-mail : stanhart@mweb.co.za

----- Original Message -----
From: shaul <shaul@shaul.homechoice.co.uk>
To: South Africa SIG <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: Simonstown Jewish Community

Simon's Town Museum
<stmuseum@mweb.co.za> writes
Dear Dr Issroff
...
the last Jewish family to have connections to Simon's Town left in the
late
1970's I would say. He was a Mr Reuben Juter and was mayor of Simon's Town
at
one time. He had a pharmacy in Simon's Town. His widow emigrated to Israel
I
think in the 1980's.


Re: Simon's Town #southafrica

Rose Lerer Cohen <roseron@...>
 

If I recall, Simon's Town did not have a Synagogue, there may be
records in the Muizenberg Synagogue as this was the closest to Simon's
Town. There is also a Jewish cemetery in Muizenberg.

Rose Lerer Cohen
Co-ordinator Lithuanian Names Project


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Simonstown Jewish Community #southafrica

Stan Hart <stanhart@...>
 

My wife is related to the Reuben Juter mentioned in the letter below.
Would you like me to make contact with him and ask him for any particular
information?

Stan Hart
P.O. Box 2296
Durban 4000
South Africa

Tel : (+27-31) 261-6659
Fax : (+27-31) 261-6810
Mobile : (+27) (0) 83-500-6659
e-mail : stanhart@mweb.co.za

----- Original Message -----
From: shaul <shaul@shaul.homechoice.co.uk>
To: South Africa SIG <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: Simonstown Jewish Community

Simon's Town Museum
<stmuseum@mweb.co.za> writes
Dear Dr Issroff
...
the last Jewish family to have connections to Simon's Town left in the
late
1970's I would say. He was a Mr Reuben Juter and was mayor of Simon's Town
at
one time. He had a pharmacy in Simon's Town. His widow emigrated to Israel
I
think in the 1980's.


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica re: Simon's Town #southafrica

Rose Lerer Cohen <roseron@...>
 

If I recall, Simon's Town did not have a Synagogue, there may be
records in the Muizenberg Synagogue as this was the closest to Simon's
Town. There is also a Jewish cemetery in Muizenberg.

Rose Lerer Cohen
Co-ordinator Lithuanian Names Project


Re Simonstown Jewish Community #southafrica

Charutz <yairharu@...>
 

In January 1998, I visited Cape Town, South Africa, for the first time in
more than 20 years. On the plane >from Tel Aviv was a young lady (not
Jewish), who was living with her (non-Jewish) life-partner in Simonstown.
She claimed that the Jewish Community in Simonstown had re-established
itself over the last few years, most of them being ex-Israelis who had
emigrated to South Africa. In fact, one of the reasons that she had come to
visit Israel was because she had been encouraged to do so by some
Israeli/Jewish friends/neighbours who had told her positive things about
Israel.

While the Jewish Community in Simonstown is not large, it does exist, and
apparently even has enough residents for a Minyan on Fridays-Saturdays and
on festivals.

I would, therefore, suggest that if this interests them, Shaul >from the UK
and members of the local museum should try to trace the local Jews/Israelis.
I should imagine that it would not be too difficult for them.

All the best,
Chaim Charutz.


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re Simonstown Jewish Community #southafrica

Charutz <yairharu@...>
 

In January 1998, I visited Cape Town, South Africa, for the first time in
more than 20 years. On the plane >from Tel Aviv was a young lady (not
Jewish), who was living with her (non-Jewish) life-partner in Simonstown.
She claimed that the Jewish Community in Simonstown had re-established
itself over the last few years, most of them being ex-Israelis who had
emigrated to South Africa. In fact, one of the reasons that she had come to
visit Israel was because she had been encouraged to do so by some
Israeli/Jewish friends/neighbours who had told her positive things about
Israel.

While the Jewish Community in Simonstown is not large, it does exist, and
apparently even has enough residents for a Minyan on Fridays-Saturdays and
on festivals.

I would, therefore, suggest that if this interests them, Shaul >from the UK
and members of the local museum should try to trace the local Jews/Israelis.
I should imagine that it would not be too difficult for them.

All the best,
Chaim Charutz.


Re: Given names #courland #latvia

Zelde Malevitz <lionzel@...>
 

Dear Susanne,

Leyzer and its various spellings is a nickname for Eliezer. (My
grandfather's official name was Eliezer but he was called Leyzer. The name
Lebya is a man's name. It is the Slavic pronunciation of Leyb (meaning
"lion" in Yiddish). Good luck! Paul Malevitz

From: Susanne Fleischer <susanne.fleischer@spray.se>
Reply-To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:47:57 +0100 (MET)
To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: Given names


Does anyone know if Elieser, Lazer and Leiser could be variations on the same
name? And another question, is Leyba a womans or a mans name?
If it is a womans name how come that it occurs in the Courland voters list
since only men were aloud to vote?

Greatful for your help
Susanne Fleischer
Sweden


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: Given names #courland #latvia

Zelde Malevitz <lionzel@...>
 

Dear Susanne,

Leyzer and its various spellings is a nickname for Eliezer. (My
grandfather's official name was Eliezer but he was called Leyzer. The name
Lebya is a man's name. It is the Slavic pronunciation of Leyb (meaning
"lion" in Yiddish). Good luck! Paul Malevitz

From: Susanne Fleischer <susanne.fleischer@spray.se>
Reply-To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:47:57 +0100 (MET)
To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: Given names


Does anyone know if Elieser, Lazer and Leiser could be variations on the same
name? And another question, is Leyba a womans or a mans name?
If it is a womans name how come that it occurs in the Courland voters list
since only men were aloud to vote?

Greatful for your help
Susanne Fleischer
Sweden


Re: Wilhelm Stida, again #courland #latvia

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Tiflis is a historical name for Tbilisi, now the
capital of the independent nation of Georgia.

Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

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Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia re: Wilhelm Stida, again #courland #latvia

Eve Greenfield <eve_rachel@...>
 

Tiflis is a historical name for Tbilisi, now the
capital of the independent nation of Georgia.

Eve Greenfield, Chicago, Illinois

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Office: 312-263-6101