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INTRO - Researching: BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA #germany

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

I am a new member, Larry Schenker, >from Los Angeles, California, United
States and I want to thank you for allowing me to join this SIG. [See note below.]

I am writing to introduce myself and my research to the other
subscribers. By posting this information to this SIG, I would hope to
get any help and/or information that might be known about my ancestry
Surnames.

Below is information about the Surnames or any possible derivation of
the Surnames that I am searching for:
. BINENBAUM or any derivation of this Surname
. FORMAN or any derivation of this Surname
. WUBACK or any derivation of this Surname
. ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or any derivation of this Surname
. GERSHKOVNA or any derivation of this Surname

The details follow:
BINENBAUM, Abram Beniaminowich born 1783 in Russian Poland. According to
the 1809 Russian Census he was living in Brest-Litovsk.
UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME, Doba born 1777 in Russian Poland. According to the
1809 Russian Census she was living in Brest-Litovsk. Abram & Doba
married circa 1803 in possibly Brest-Litovsk.

FORMAN, Louis born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
WUBACK, Dora born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
Dora & Louis married circa 1850 in Russian Poland

FORMAN, Pesse daughter of Dora & Louis born May 25, 1852 in Russian
Poland
BINENBAUM, Israel Leon born circa 1860 in Russian Poland
Pesse & Israel married circa 1880 in Russian Poland

BINENBAUM, Anshel son of Pesse & Israel born August 15, 1881 in Brisk,
Russia
ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or possibly GERSHKOVNA, Tsiva or Ciwze born circa 1881
in Russian Poland
Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel married circa 1902 in possible Brest-Litovsk,
Russia

BINENBAUM, Jackal (my father) first son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
June 8, 1904 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia. He might have had a twin sibling
who died at birth or shortly after birth.

BINENBAUM, Gutman (Gimann) second son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
March 1, 1906 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia.

BINENBAUM, Anshel left his wife (Tsiva or Ciwze), young sons (Jackal)
and (Gimann) and mother (Pesse) in Brest-Litovsk, Russia in March or
April 1906 and traveled to Germany, then onto a port city in either
France, Belgium or The Netherlands. Then Anshel traveled to Liverpool
England (stopping for at least one night in Sheffield - where he had an
older brother living). Then on May 18, 1906 he boarded the vessel S/S
Haverford and arrived in Philadelphia, PA USA on May 28, 1906. Shortly
thereafter he traveled to New York City and in 1910 we find him living
at 29 Ridge Street, New York City, NY USA. This was on the Lower East
Side. Sometime after his arrival in the United States he assumed the
name of Jacob SCHENKER.

In 1911, Tsiva or Ciwze, Jackal, Gimann & Pesse traveled >from Brest-
Litvosk to Antwerp to board the Lapland (Red Star Line) and sailed to
New York City. They arrived on December 12, 1911 and immediately went to
join Anshel BINENBAUM (now called Jacob SCHENKER) at either 32 Attorney Street
or 220 Madison Street, both on the Lower East Side, New York City, NY USA.

Larry Schenker (Binenbaum) OWNER/MODERATOR Yahoo! brest_belarus Group
Los Angeles, CA, USA E-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net

MODERATOR NOTE: You are welcome in GerSig as is anyone. However, as this Forum
is **only** for discussion of **German speaking ancestry** research you should
restrict further messages to questions and comments regarding your research on
ancestors in Germany or German-speaking areas.


German SIG #Germany INTRO - Researching: BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA #germany

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

I am a new member, Larry Schenker, >from Los Angeles, California, United
States and I want to thank you for allowing me to join this SIG. [See note below.]

I am writing to introduce myself and my research to the other
subscribers. By posting this information to this SIG, I would hope to
get any help and/or information that might be known about my ancestry
Surnames.

Below is information about the Surnames or any possible derivation of
the Surnames that I am searching for:
. BINENBAUM or any derivation of this Surname
. FORMAN or any derivation of this Surname
. WUBACK or any derivation of this Surname
. ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or any derivation of this Surname
. GERSHKOVNA or any derivation of this Surname

The details follow:
BINENBAUM, Abram Beniaminowich born 1783 in Russian Poland. According to
the 1809 Russian Census he was living in Brest-Litovsk.
UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME, Doba born 1777 in Russian Poland. According to the
1809 Russian Census she was living in Brest-Litovsk. Abram & Doba
married circa 1803 in possibly Brest-Litovsk.

FORMAN, Louis born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
WUBACK, Dora born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
Dora & Louis married circa 1850 in Russian Poland

FORMAN, Pesse daughter of Dora & Louis born May 25, 1852 in Russian
Poland
BINENBAUM, Israel Leon born circa 1860 in Russian Poland
Pesse & Israel married circa 1880 in Russian Poland

BINENBAUM, Anshel son of Pesse & Israel born August 15, 1881 in Brisk,
Russia
ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or possibly GERSHKOVNA, Tsiva or Ciwze born circa 1881
in Russian Poland
Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel married circa 1902 in possible Brest-Litovsk,
Russia

BINENBAUM, Jackal (my father) first son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
June 8, 1904 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia. He might have had a twin sibling
who died at birth or shortly after birth.

BINENBAUM, Gutman (Gimann) second son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
March 1, 1906 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia.

BINENBAUM, Anshel left his wife (Tsiva or Ciwze), young sons (Jackal)
and (Gimann) and mother (Pesse) in Brest-Litovsk, Russia in March or
April 1906 and traveled to Germany, then onto a port city in either
France, Belgium or The Netherlands. Then Anshel traveled to Liverpool
England (stopping for at least one night in Sheffield - where he had an
older brother living). Then on May 18, 1906 he boarded the vessel S/S
Haverford and arrived in Philadelphia, PA USA on May 28, 1906. Shortly
thereafter he traveled to New York City and in 1910 we find him living
at 29 Ridge Street, New York City, NY USA. This was on the Lower East
Side. Sometime after his arrival in the United States he assumed the
name of Jacob SCHENKER.

In 1911, Tsiva or Ciwze, Jackal, Gimann & Pesse traveled >from Brest-
Litvosk to Antwerp to board the Lapland (Red Star Line) and sailed to
New York City. They arrived on December 12, 1911 and immediately went to
join Anshel BINENBAUM (now called Jacob SCHENKER) at either 32 Attorney Street
or 220 Madison Street, both on the Lower East Side, New York City, NY USA.

Larry Schenker (Binenbaum) OWNER/MODERATOR Yahoo! brest_belarus Group
Los Angeles, CA, USA E-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net

MODERATOR NOTE: You are welcome in GerSig as is anyone. However, as this Forum
is **only** for discussion of **German speaking ancestry** research you should
restrict further messages to questions and comments regarding your research on
ancestors in Germany or German-speaking areas.


MATHESON, Port Elizabeth #southafrica

ygaffen@...
 

Does anyone know how to make contact with any of the Matheson family? They
lived in Port Elizabeth till the 70's and then moved to Cape Town. Doctor
Matheson practiced medicine in Port Elizabeth.

Yehudi Gaffen, San Diego
Please respond to ygaffen@gafcon.com


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica MATHESON, Port Elizabeth #southafrica

ygaffen@...
 

Does anyone know how to make contact with any of the Matheson family? They
lived in Port Elizabeth till the 70's and then moved to Cape Town. Doctor
Matheson practiced medicine in Port Elizabeth.

Yehudi Gaffen, San Diego
Please respond to ygaffen@gafcon.com


GISHEN, BARNET #southafrica

Allen & Dinah Katz <aldikat@...>
 

I am searching for relatives who are descendants of Shlomo Meyer "Solomon"
and Gertie (nee Kaddish) GISHEN, Shlomo Myer was originally >from the town of
Karaliche, Belarussia, and was a brother to my great-grandfather, Laazer
Reuven GISHEN.
Shlomo Myer passed away on August 18th, 1931, in Jhb.

They had three children: Sylvia GISHEN, Victor "Vickey" GISHEN, and Phil
"Billy" GISHEN.

Sylvia GISHEN married Sonny BARNET, and they had two daughters: Maureen
BARNET and Joan BARNET.

Vicky GISHEN married Rose Unknown and they had at least two children.

Phil GISHEN married Rose Unknown.

Anyone with knowledge of these families please contact me. Thank you for
your assistance.

Allen Katz
Raanana ,Israel
aldikat@netviison.net.il
GISHEN Family Tree Research


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica GISHEN, BARNET #southafrica

Allen & Dinah Katz <aldikat@...>
 

I am searching for relatives who are descendants of Shlomo Meyer "Solomon"
and Gertie (nee Kaddish) GISHEN, Shlomo Myer was originally >from the town of
Karaliche, Belarussia, and was a brother to my great-grandfather, Laazer
Reuven GISHEN.
Shlomo Myer passed away on August 18th, 1931, in Jhb.

They had three children: Sylvia GISHEN, Victor "Vickey" GISHEN, and Phil
"Billy" GISHEN.

Sylvia GISHEN married Sonny BARNET, and they had two daughters: Maureen
BARNET and Joan BARNET.

Vicky GISHEN married Rose Unknown and they had at least two children.

Phil GISHEN married Rose Unknown.

Anyone with knowledge of these families please contact me. Thank you for
your assistance.

Allen Katz
Raanana ,Israel
aldikat@netviison.net.il
GISHEN Family Tree Research


New Member Introduction - Surnames BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA #southafrica

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

New Member Introduction - Surnames BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK,
ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA

I am a new member, Larry Schenker, >from Los Angeles, California, United
States and I want to thank you for allowing me to join this SIG.

I am writing to introduce myself and my research to the other
subscribers. By posting this information to this SIG, I would hope to
get any help and/or information that might be known about my ancestry
Surnames.

Below is information about the Surnames or any possible derivation of
the Surnames that I am searching for:
. BINENBAUM or any derivation of this Surname
. FORMAN or any derivation of this Surname
. WUBACK or any derivation of this Surname
. ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or any derivation of this Surname
. GERSHKOVNA or any derivation of this Surname

The details follow:
BINENBAUM, Abram Beniaminowich born 1783 in Russian Poland. According to
the 1809 Russian Census he was living in Brest-Litovsk.
UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME, Doba born 1777 in Russian Poland. According to the
1809 Russian Census she was living in Brest-Litovsk. Abram & Doba
married circa 1803 in possibly Brest-Litovsk.

FORMAN, Louis born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
WUBACK, Dora born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
Dora & Louis married circa 1850 in Russian Poland

FORMAN, Pesse daughter of Dora & Louis born May 25, 1852 in Russian
Poland BINENBAUM, Israel Leon born circa 1860 in Russian Poland Pesse &
Israel married circa 1880 in Russian Poland

BINENBAUM, Anshel son of Pesse & Israel born August 15, 1881 in Brisk,
Russia
ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or possibly GERSHKOVNA, Tsiva or Ciwze born circa 1881
in Russian Poland
Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel married circa 1902 in possible Brest-Litovsk,
Russia

BINENBAUM, Jackal (my father) first son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
June 8, 1904 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia. He might have had a twin sibling
who died at birth or shortly after birth.

BINENBAUM, Gutman (Gimann) second son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
March 1, 1906 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia.

BINENBAUM, Anshel left his wife (Tsiva or Ciwze), young sons (Jackal)
and (Gimann) and mother (Pesse) in Brest-Litovsk, Russia in March or
April 1906 and traveled to Germany, then onto a port city in either
France, Belgium or The Netherlands. Then Anshel traveled to Liverpool
England (stopping for at least one night in Sheffield - where he had an
older brother living). Then on May 18, 1906 he boarded the vessel S/S
Haverford and arrived in Philadelphia, PA USA on May 28, 1906. Shortly
thereafter he traveled to New York City and in 1910 we find him living
at 29 Ridge Street, New York City, NY USA. This was on the Lower East
Side. Sometime after his arrival in the United States he assumed the
name of Jacob SCHENKER.

In 1911, Tsiva or Ciwze, Jackal, Gimann & Pesse traveled >from Brest-
Litvosk to Antwerp to board the Lapland (Red Star Line) and sailed to
New York City. They arrived on December 12, 1911 and immediately went to
join Anshel BINENBAUM (now called Jacob SCHENKER) at either 32 Attorney
Street or 220 Madison Street, both on the Lower East Side, New York
City, NY USA.

Larry Schenker (Binenbaum)
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Researching - BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA
E-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net


*** Moderator's note: This message does not explicitly mention any Southern
African link, but it is being posted in case any SA SIG subscribers recognize some
of the names mentioned.


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica New Member Introduction - Surnames BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA #southafrica

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

New Member Introduction - Surnames BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK,
ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA

I am a new member, Larry Schenker, >from Los Angeles, California, United
States and I want to thank you for allowing me to join this SIG.

I am writing to introduce myself and my research to the other
subscribers. By posting this information to this SIG, I would hope to
get any help and/or information that might be known about my ancestry
Surnames.

Below is information about the Surnames or any possible derivation of
the Surnames that I am searching for:
. BINENBAUM or any derivation of this Surname
. FORMAN or any derivation of this Surname
. WUBACK or any derivation of this Surname
. ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or any derivation of this Surname
. GERSHKOVNA or any derivation of this Surname

The details follow:
BINENBAUM, Abram Beniaminowich born 1783 in Russian Poland. According to
the 1809 Russian Census he was living in Brest-Litovsk.
UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME, Doba born 1777 in Russian Poland. According to the
1809 Russian Census she was living in Brest-Litovsk. Abram & Doba
married circa 1803 in possibly Brest-Litovsk.

FORMAN, Louis born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
WUBACK, Dora born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
Dora & Louis married circa 1850 in Russian Poland

FORMAN, Pesse daughter of Dora & Louis born May 25, 1852 in Russian
Poland BINENBAUM, Israel Leon born circa 1860 in Russian Poland Pesse &
Israel married circa 1880 in Russian Poland

BINENBAUM, Anshel son of Pesse & Israel born August 15, 1881 in Brisk,
Russia
ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or possibly GERSHKOVNA, Tsiva or Ciwze born circa 1881
in Russian Poland
Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel married circa 1902 in possible Brest-Litovsk,
Russia

BINENBAUM, Jackal (my father) first son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
June 8, 1904 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia. He might have had a twin sibling
who died at birth or shortly after birth.

BINENBAUM, Gutman (Gimann) second son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
March 1, 1906 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia.

BINENBAUM, Anshel left his wife (Tsiva or Ciwze), young sons (Jackal)
and (Gimann) and mother (Pesse) in Brest-Litovsk, Russia in March or
April 1906 and traveled to Germany, then onto a port city in either
France, Belgium or The Netherlands. Then Anshel traveled to Liverpool
England (stopping for at least one night in Sheffield - where he had an
older brother living). Then on May 18, 1906 he boarded the vessel S/S
Haverford and arrived in Philadelphia, PA USA on May 28, 1906. Shortly
thereafter he traveled to New York City and in 1910 we find him living
at 29 Ridge Street, New York City, NY USA. This was on the Lower East
Side. Sometime after his arrival in the United States he assumed the
name of Jacob SCHENKER.

In 1911, Tsiva or Ciwze, Jackal, Gimann & Pesse traveled >from Brest-
Litvosk to Antwerp to board the Lapland (Red Star Line) and sailed to
New York City. They arrived on December 12, 1911 and immediately went to
join Anshel BINENBAUM (now called Jacob SCHENKER) at either 32 Attorney
Street or 220 Madison Street, both on the Lower East Side, New York
City, NY USA.

Larry Schenker (Binenbaum)
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Researching - BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA
E-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net


*** Moderator's note: This message does not explicitly mention any Southern
African link, but it is being posted in case any SA SIG subscribers recognize some
of the names mentioned.


New Member Introduction - Surnames BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA #latinamerica

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

New Member Introduction - Surnames BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK,
ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA

I am a new member, Larry Schenker, >from Los Angeles, California, United
States and I want to thank you for allowing me to join this SIG.

I am writing to introduce myself and my research to the other
subscribers. By posting this information to this SIG, I would hope to
get any help and/or information that might be known about my ancestry
Surnames.

I am registered at the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF), as number 82676.
All of the surnames of interest to me are listed at JGFF.

We have located about eleven (11) living people with the Binenbojm
and/or Binembaum Surname in Brazil and have been attempting to contact
them. Any and all help with reaching these people would be greatly
appreciated.

There are most likely people with the Surname Binenbaum or some
derivation of that Surname living in Argentina. Again all help would be
appreciated.

Below is information about the Surnames or any possible derivation of
the Surnames that I am searching for:

. BINENBAUM or any derivation of this Surname
. FORMAN or any derivation of this Surname
. WUBACK or any derivation of this Surname
. ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or any derivation of this Surname
. GERSHKOVNA or any derivation of this Surname
. SCHENKER or any derivation of this Surname

The details follow:
BINENBAUM, Abram Beniaminowich born 1783 in Russian Poland. According to
the 1809 Russian Census he was living in Brest-Litovsk.
UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME, Doba born 1777 in Russian Poland. According to the
1809 Russian Census she was living in Brest-Litovsk. Abram & Doba
married circa 1803 in possibly Brest-Litovsk.

FORMAN, Louis born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
WUBACK, Dora born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
Dora & Louis married circa 1850 in Russian Poland

FORMAN, Pesse daughter of Dora & Louis born May 25, 1852 in Russian
Poland BINENBAUM, Israel Leon born circa 1860 in Russian Poland Pesse &
Israel married circa 1880 in Russian Poland

BINENBAUM, Anshel son of Pesse & Israel born August 15, 1881 in Brisk,
Russia
ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or possibly GERSHKOVNA, Tsiva or Ciwze born circa 1881
in Russian Poland
Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel married circa 1902 in possible Brest-Litovsk,
Russia

BINENBAUM, Jackal (my father) first son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
June 8, 1904 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia. He might have had a twin sibling
who died at birth or shortly after birth.

BINENBAUM, Gutman (Gimann) second son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
March 1, 1906 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia.

BINENBAUM, Anshel left his wife (Tsiva or Ciwze), young sons (Jackal)
and (Gimann) and mother (Pesse) in Brest-Litovsk, Russia in March or
April 1906 and traveled to Germany, then onto a port city in either
France, Belgium or The Netherlands. Then Anshel traveled to Liverpool
England (stopping for at least one night in Sheffield - where he had an
older brother living). Then on May 18, 1906 he boarded the vessel S/S
Haverford and arrived in Philadelphia, PA USA on May 28, 1906. Shortly
thereafter he traveled to New York City and in 1910 we find him living
at 29 Ridge Street, New York City, NY USA. This was on the Lower East
Side. Sometime after his arrival in the United States he assumed the
name of Jacob SCHENKER.
In 1911, Tsiva or Ciwze, Jackal, Gimann & Pesse traveled >from Brest-
Litvosk to Antwerp to board the Lapland (Red Star Line) and sailed to
New York City. They arrived on December 12, 1911 and immediately went to
join Anshel BINENBAUM (now called Jacob SCHENKER) at either 32 Attorney
Street or 220 Madison Street, both on the Lower East Side, New York
City, NY USA.

Larry Schenker (Binenbaum)
OWNER/MODERATOR Yahoo! brest_belarus Group
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Researching - BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA
E-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net


Latin America #LatinAmerica New Member Introduction - Surnames BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA #latinamerica

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

New Member Introduction - Surnames BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK,
ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA

I am a new member, Larry Schenker, >from Los Angeles, California, United
States and I want to thank you for allowing me to join this SIG.

I am writing to introduce myself and my research to the other
subscribers. By posting this information to this SIG, I would hope to
get any help and/or information that might be known about my ancestry
Surnames.

I am registered at the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF), as number 82676.
All of the surnames of interest to me are listed at JGFF.

We have located about eleven (11) living people with the Binenbojm
and/or Binembaum Surname in Brazil and have been attempting to contact
them. Any and all help with reaching these people would be greatly
appreciated.

There are most likely people with the Surname Binenbaum or some
derivation of that Surname living in Argentina. Again all help would be
appreciated.

Below is information about the Surnames or any possible derivation of
the Surnames that I am searching for:

. BINENBAUM or any derivation of this Surname
. FORMAN or any derivation of this Surname
. WUBACK or any derivation of this Surname
. ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or any derivation of this Surname
. GERSHKOVNA or any derivation of this Surname
. SCHENKER or any derivation of this Surname

The details follow:
BINENBAUM, Abram Beniaminowich born 1783 in Russian Poland. According to
the 1809 Russian Census he was living in Brest-Litovsk.
UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME, Doba born 1777 in Russian Poland. According to the
1809 Russian Census she was living in Brest-Litovsk. Abram & Doba
married circa 1803 in possibly Brest-Litovsk.

FORMAN, Louis born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
WUBACK, Dora born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
Dora & Louis married circa 1850 in Russian Poland

FORMAN, Pesse daughter of Dora & Louis born May 25, 1852 in Russian
Poland BINENBAUM, Israel Leon born circa 1860 in Russian Poland Pesse &
Israel married circa 1880 in Russian Poland

BINENBAUM, Anshel son of Pesse & Israel born August 15, 1881 in Brisk,
Russia
ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or possibly GERSHKOVNA, Tsiva or Ciwze born circa 1881
in Russian Poland
Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel married circa 1902 in possible Brest-Litovsk,
Russia

BINENBAUM, Jackal (my father) first son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
June 8, 1904 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia. He might have had a twin sibling
who died at birth or shortly after birth.

BINENBAUM, Gutman (Gimann) second son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
March 1, 1906 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia.

BINENBAUM, Anshel left his wife (Tsiva or Ciwze), young sons (Jackal)
and (Gimann) and mother (Pesse) in Brest-Litovsk, Russia in March or
April 1906 and traveled to Germany, then onto a port city in either
France, Belgium or The Netherlands. Then Anshel traveled to Liverpool
England (stopping for at least one night in Sheffield - where he had an
older brother living). Then on May 18, 1906 he boarded the vessel S/S
Haverford and arrived in Philadelphia, PA USA on May 28, 1906. Shortly
thereafter he traveled to New York City and in 1910 we find him living
at 29 Ridge Street, New York City, NY USA. This was on the Lower East
Side. Sometime after his arrival in the United States he assumed the
name of Jacob SCHENKER.
In 1911, Tsiva or Ciwze, Jackal, Gimann & Pesse traveled >from Brest-
Litvosk to Antwerp to board the Lapland (Red Star Line) and sailed to
New York City. They arrived on December 12, 1911 and immediately went to
join Anshel BINENBAUM (now called Jacob SCHENKER) at either 32 Attorney
Street or 220 Madison Street, both on the Lower East Side, New York
City, NY USA.

Larry Schenker (Binenbaum)
OWNER/MODERATOR Yahoo! brest_belarus Group
Los Angeles, CA, USA
Researching - BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA
E-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net


Re: SCHREINER - Drohobycz, Borislav, Stanislawow #galicia

Marx, Jonathan Schreiner <John@...>
 

Dear Group:

I could not follow everything in Mr. Sharon's post about my family. However,
I do know that my branch went up into Russia in the 19th century. There is
simply doubt whether it was Hirsch Schreiner or not. My Great-Grandfather
was born around the time of the petroleum discovery, and died in 1912. Not
much is made of the incident in the family. My grandfather, Jacob, came over
to the US with his brother in order to keep him >from going into the Czar's
army. (They actually boarded ship at Liverpool on April 15 when news just
came over the Titanic sank. My grandfather remembered everybody was scared
to board ship, because they would be in steerage and they knew they didn't
have a chance if the boat sank). My grandmother would follow with his
parents. My great-grandfather then died, and they got a refund for his
ticket.

The name was indeed known as Shtrejner or Strejner in Russia. Why, I do not
know. Perhaps nuances to Cyrillic. At any event, I have the passport when
they left. It does read Schreiner in Cyrillic. Yet sometimes I know they
were called Shtreiner. Dr. Beider confirms this is "Schreiner" in his
Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the Russian Empire.

My grandfather traveled most everywhere, as a driver for the aristocracy. He
spoke German, Yiddish, Russian, French, Polish, Arabic, Ukrainian, and even
enough Chinese to get by. We have no idea where all he traveled, but he was
brilliant with picking up languages. If he was in places where Jews were not
supposed to be, he was clever enough to say he was Polish (his accent would
have been too strongly Yiddish to pass for German.)

The Pale was a leaky thing at best. I know that in certain German villages
along the Volga the town doctor (as in the case of Norka) was Jewish. My
great-grandfather might have said he was Polish or something to get into St.
Petersburg or was perhaps invited. He was an excellent shtieval macher (boot
maker). This is not a cobbler. These are the great Russian boots, also those
used in the cavalry.

In any case, Yitsaksohns were also related, and I noticed on Jewishgen that
someobdy else is seeking information on Isaacson in St. Petersburg. But,
alas, their email is no longer valid.

I'm sorry to hear that Yoske Schreiner was in a labor camp, but I feared
they were all wiped out. He could be Isak or Chaim's son.

Again, if anybody is of the family of the Borislav, Drohobycz, Stanislawow
Shcreiners, and any Jewish Schreiners in Poland, I would like to hear from
you. There were many Schreiners. It was a large family, as even Jewishgen
testifies. Also, any Yitsaksohns who have heard they have Schreiner
relatives. Names that stick out are Sarah and Elizabeth Isaacson

Thanks,

Jonathan Schreiner Marx
Respond to dom@cwo.com

From: "Alexander Sharon" <a.sharon@shaw.ca> in part:

I've read with the great interest Jonathan's story about the Schreiners,
especially since he made reference to my old post about the stealing by
Polish pharmacist Ignacy Lukasiewicz Abraham Schreiner's inventions of the
crude oil distillation and the kerosene lamp.
-snip-


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: SCHREINER - Drohobycz, Borislav, Stanislawow #galicia

Marx, Jonathan Schreiner <John@...>
 

Dear Group:

I could not follow everything in Mr. Sharon's post about my family. However,
I do know that my branch went up into Russia in the 19th century. There is
simply doubt whether it was Hirsch Schreiner or not. My Great-Grandfather
was born around the time of the petroleum discovery, and died in 1912. Not
much is made of the incident in the family. My grandfather, Jacob, came over
to the US with his brother in order to keep him >from going into the Czar's
army. (They actually boarded ship at Liverpool on April 15 when news just
came over the Titanic sank. My grandfather remembered everybody was scared
to board ship, because they would be in steerage and they knew they didn't
have a chance if the boat sank). My grandmother would follow with his
parents. My great-grandfather then died, and they got a refund for his
ticket.

The name was indeed known as Shtrejner or Strejner in Russia. Why, I do not
know. Perhaps nuances to Cyrillic. At any event, I have the passport when
they left. It does read Schreiner in Cyrillic. Yet sometimes I know they
were called Shtreiner. Dr. Beider confirms this is "Schreiner" in his
Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the Russian Empire.

My grandfather traveled most everywhere, as a driver for the aristocracy. He
spoke German, Yiddish, Russian, French, Polish, Arabic, Ukrainian, and even
enough Chinese to get by. We have no idea where all he traveled, but he was
brilliant with picking up languages. If he was in places where Jews were not
supposed to be, he was clever enough to say he was Polish (his accent would
have been too strongly Yiddish to pass for German.)

The Pale was a leaky thing at best. I know that in certain German villages
along the Volga the town doctor (as in the case of Norka) was Jewish. My
great-grandfather might have said he was Polish or something to get into St.
Petersburg or was perhaps invited. He was an excellent shtieval macher (boot
maker). This is not a cobbler. These are the great Russian boots, also those
used in the cavalry.

In any case, Yitsaksohns were also related, and I noticed on Jewishgen that
someobdy else is seeking information on Isaacson in St. Petersburg. But,
alas, their email is no longer valid.

I'm sorry to hear that Yoske Schreiner was in a labor camp, but I feared
they were all wiped out. He could be Isak or Chaim's son.

Again, if anybody is of the family of the Borislav, Drohobycz, Stanislawow
Shcreiners, and any Jewish Schreiners in Poland, I would like to hear from
you. There were many Schreiners. It was a large family, as even Jewishgen
testifies. Also, any Yitsaksohns who have heard they have Schreiner
relatives. Names that stick out are Sarah and Elizabeth Isaacson

Thanks,

Jonathan Schreiner Marx
Respond to dom@cwo.com

From: "Alexander Sharon" <a.sharon@shaw.ca> in part:

I've read with the great interest Jonathan's story about the Schreiners,
especially since he made reference to my old post about the stealing by
Polish pharmacist Ignacy Lukasiewicz Abraham Schreiner's inventions of the
crude oil distillation and the kerosene lamp.
-snip-


SCHREINER - Drohobycz, Borislav, Stanislawow #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Dear Galitzyaners,

I've read with the great interest Jonathan's story about the Schreiners,
especially since he made reference to my old post about the stealing by
Polish pharmacist Ignacy Lukasiewicz Abraham Schreiner's inventions of the
crude oil distillation and the kerosene lamp.

1. Schreiner discovery - a legend or a true story?

All old Boryslawers have heard the story about the Abraham Schreiner's
father discovery of the petroleum paraffin.

This natural hydrocarbon, known popularly as "natural wax" and
scientifically as ozokerite, has been known to humanity since antiquity
since it was used in ancient Egypt for the embalming of mummies. A natural
resource, it is found only in a few places on earth. Alongside the crude oil
exploration, production and refining, ozokerite mining on the production
scale was the second largest industry in Boryslaw.

Reb Schreiner was already involved in the candle manufacture >from the bee
wax, but the new discovery allowed him to extend candle production >from the
cheap source.

Abraham Schreiner (1810-1870) is quoted by several sources as the inventor
of the crude oil distillation. In 1853 he delivered his product (kerosene)
to Mikolasch pharmacy in Lwow where Polish pharmacist assistant Ignacy
Lukasiewicz was employed.

Following Abraham Schreiner visit to the pharmacy two versions of the story
have been developed:

a) Ignacy Lukasiewicz used Schreiner's invention as his own and patented it
(or registered) in 1853.
b) Schreiner became known as the inventor of kerosene and the
founder/pioneer of the petroleum refining industry

On the other hand, published by our Valerie Schatzker historical facts are
disputed Schreiner's claim
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Drohobycz/dz_histoil.htm

Quote: "In 1849 by Dr. Abraham Gesner, a Canadian geologist, produced clear
kerosene >from smelly seep oil"


As I have mentioned, several sources are quoting Schreiner as the inventor
of the crude oil distillation:

1. Leopold Held "Tysmienica Still Flows". This originally unpublished book
has been donated by the author (Boryslaw petroleum engineer) daughter to the
JewishGen and translated already partially under Valerie Schatzker
supervision and editing.

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Borislav/Borislav.html

2.I Hirszhaut "Yiddishe naftmagnatn" published by Central Union of the
Polish Jews in Argentine, Buenos Aires 1954.

3. L. Held also quotes Jewish Encyclopedia and German pamphlet distributed
during the Nazi occupation of Boryslaw during WWII (In this pamphlet
Hassidic Jew Schreiner is identified as the folksdeutsch (sic!)

In Hitszhaut book there is a passage about the grandson of Abraham
Schreiner, slave laborer in Drohobycz Refinery during the Nazi occupation.
I have identify his identity as Josef Schreiner, master mechanic, born Oct
17, 1889.

This identification became possible thanks to the published very recently
"List of forced laborers in Boryslaw and Drohobycz"

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/0031_Boryslaw_and_Drohobycz_laborers.html


As to Schreiner family moving to Russia, and became known as Shtrejners I
would question this.
Jewish movement was going other direction >from the east to the west not in
reverse. Why Hassidic Galitzyaners have to be invited imperial St Petersburg
is another question. And between names Schreiner and Streiner is a big
difference in their origin.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marx, Jonathan Schreiner" <John@bermuda-triangle.org>

On my mother's side (Kathryn Schreiner) I am of the family of the Drohobycz
Schreiners, the same family as Abraham Schreiner, the discoverer of
petroleum, and the first one to distill it at Borislav. >from what I
understand all the Schreiners of the areas listed are related, so this is
directed to all.

Things are a bit confused in my branch, chiefly because my mother's
generation didn't inquire much of my grandfather, Jacob Schreiner, and this
was compounded by me getting interested after the key uncles and aunts were
dead. Also, by the fact my mom was 1 of 10 children which my grandparents
had, and this kept everybody working "on the farm" long hours and little
time for genealogy.

Anyway, my branch went up into Russia >from Drohobycz area or Galicia. The
exact year I don't know. The name that sticks out is Hirsch Schreiner. I
assume he is the one that left. The name was also known as Shtrejner or
Strejner in Russia. When an old "Landsman" would see my grandfather Jacob,
he would call out "Streiner!" None of my uncles and aunts ever knew why.
They just thought the man didn't know how to pronounce the name. However, in
Alexander Beider's book on Jewish surnames of Russia, I found that Schreiner
was indeed called Shtrejner or Strejner. One entry was at Minsk. Dr. Beider
was kind enough to respond to me (years ago) and let me know that the person
listed was Yankel Girschovich Shtrejner. I assume that's one of my
Schreiners. Schreiner seems to be a rare name for Jews in Russia, and indeed
it is only listed in two places: Minsk and Odessa, and both might be
outcroppings of the Galician Schreiners. (The Odessa listing is for Nukhim
Gershonovich Shtrejner, 6 Uspenski Lane.)

Jacob is a common name in my branch, and my grandfather Jacob's uncle was
also named Jacob, and this may be him in Minsk. However, my great
grandfather was a boot maker in St. Petersburg, where, apparently, Jews were
not supposed to be. He used the name Karl in order to sound more German, but
there is some question if that was his actual name. I don't know then if he
was Hirsch or if his father was Hirsch Schreiner. Jacob, son of Hirsch at
Minsk therefore could be my great-great uncle or my grandfather. (The
listing was for 1905, I recall.)

My grandfather was born 1884. Where, I do not know, but he spoke of the
Ukraine. Names that are related to my branch are Isaacson, Giebelhaus or
Gifelhaus, Sidur or Seder, Veilermann or Mannweiler. Grandpa used to recite
many of the Yiddish calques and nicknames for the family and laugh, but
alas, those names are lost now to my generation.

My branch came to the US in 1912 (actually boarding ship at Liverpool on the
morning of April 15 when the news came over that the Titanic sank.)

On another post, a poster mentioned that Abraham Schreiner had his discovery
stolen by Ignacy Lukasiewicz. Is there any evidence for this in source
material, and would this also contain genealogical material relevant to
Abraham?

Sorry about the length of this post, but there really hasn't been much
information on this extended family, and it was and is a very interesting
family. The Schreiners were talented people, with quick wits, ability for
science, the arts and languages. They were proud without arrogance,
accomplished without pretensions, and all around decent people. I would
finally like to recover much that has been lost, and to find if any other
of the Galician branch, well, survived.

Thanks

Jonathan Schreiner Marx

Elk Grove, CA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia SCHREINER - Drohobycz, Borislav, Stanislawow #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Dear Galitzyaners,

I've read with the great interest Jonathan's story about the Schreiners,
especially since he made reference to my old post about the stealing by
Polish pharmacist Ignacy Lukasiewicz Abraham Schreiner's inventions of the
crude oil distillation and the kerosene lamp.

1. Schreiner discovery - a legend or a true story?

All old Boryslawers have heard the story about the Abraham Schreiner's
father discovery of the petroleum paraffin.

This natural hydrocarbon, known popularly as "natural wax" and
scientifically as ozokerite, has been known to humanity since antiquity
since it was used in ancient Egypt for the embalming of mummies. A natural
resource, it is found only in a few places on earth. Alongside the crude oil
exploration, production and refining, ozokerite mining on the production
scale was the second largest industry in Boryslaw.

Reb Schreiner was already involved in the candle manufacture >from the bee
wax, but the new discovery allowed him to extend candle production >from the
cheap source.

Abraham Schreiner (1810-1870) is quoted by several sources as the inventor
of the crude oil distillation. In 1853 he delivered his product (kerosene)
to Mikolasch pharmacy in Lwow where Polish pharmacist assistant Ignacy
Lukasiewicz was employed.

Following Abraham Schreiner visit to the pharmacy two versions of the story
have been developed:

a) Ignacy Lukasiewicz used Schreiner's invention as his own and patented it
(or registered) in 1853.
b) Schreiner became known as the inventor of kerosene and the
founder/pioneer of the petroleum refining industry

On the other hand, published by our Valerie Schatzker historical facts are
disputed Schreiner's claim
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Drohobycz/dz_histoil.htm

Quote: "In 1849 by Dr. Abraham Gesner, a Canadian geologist, produced clear
kerosene >from smelly seep oil"


As I have mentioned, several sources are quoting Schreiner as the inventor
of the crude oil distillation:

1. Leopold Held "Tysmienica Still Flows". This originally unpublished book
has been donated by the author (Boryslaw petroleum engineer) daughter to the
JewishGen and translated already partially under Valerie Schatzker
supervision and editing.

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Borislav/Borislav.html

2.I Hirszhaut "Yiddishe naftmagnatn" published by Central Union of the
Polish Jews in Argentine, Buenos Aires 1954.

3. L. Held also quotes Jewish Encyclopedia and German pamphlet distributed
during the Nazi occupation of Boryslaw during WWII (In this pamphlet
Hassidic Jew Schreiner is identified as the folksdeutsch (sic!)

In Hitszhaut book there is a passage about the grandson of Abraham
Schreiner, slave laborer in Drohobycz Refinery during the Nazi occupation.
I have identify his identity as Josef Schreiner, master mechanic, born Oct
17, 1889.

This identification became possible thanks to the published very recently
"List of forced laborers in Boryslaw and Drohobycz"

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/0031_Boryslaw_and_Drohobycz_laborers.html


As to Schreiner family moving to Russia, and became known as Shtrejners I
would question this.
Jewish movement was going other direction >from the east to the west not in
reverse. Why Hassidic Galitzyaners have to be invited imperial St Petersburg
is another question. And between names Schreiner and Streiner is a big
difference in their origin.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marx, Jonathan Schreiner" <John@bermuda-triangle.org>

On my mother's side (Kathryn Schreiner) I am of the family of the Drohobycz
Schreiners, the same family as Abraham Schreiner, the discoverer of
petroleum, and the first one to distill it at Borislav. >from what I
understand all the Schreiners of the areas listed are related, so this is
directed to all.

Things are a bit confused in my branch, chiefly because my mother's
generation didn't inquire much of my grandfather, Jacob Schreiner, and this
was compounded by me getting interested after the key uncles and aunts were
dead. Also, by the fact my mom was 1 of 10 children which my grandparents
had, and this kept everybody working "on the farm" long hours and little
time for genealogy.

Anyway, my branch went up into Russia >from Drohobycz area or Galicia. The
exact year I don't know. The name that sticks out is Hirsch Schreiner. I
assume he is the one that left. The name was also known as Shtrejner or
Strejner in Russia. When an old "Landsman" would see my grandfather Jacob,
he would call out "Streiner!" None of my uncles and aunts ever knew why.
They just thought the man didn't know how to pronounce the name. However, in
Alexander Beider's book on Jewish surnames of Russia, I found that Schreiner
was indeed called Shtrejner or Strejner. One entry was at Minsk. Dr. Beider
was kind enough to respond to me (years ago) and let me know that the person
listed was Yankel Girschovich Shtrejner. I assume that's one of my
Schreiners. Schreiner seems to be a rare name for Jews in Russia, and indeed
it is only listed in two places: Minsk and Odessa, and both might be
outcroppings of the Galician Schreiners. (The Odessa listing is for Nukhim
Gershonovich Shtrejner, 6 Uspenski Lane.)

Jacob is a common name in my branch, and my grandfather Jacob's uncle was
also named Jacob, and this may be him in Minsk. However, my great
grandfather was a boot maker in St. Petersburg, where, apparently, Jews were
not supposed to be. He used the name Karl in order to sound more German, but
there is some question if that was his actual name. I don't know then if he
was Hirsch or if his father was Hirsch Schreiner. Jacob, son of Hirsch at
Minsk therefore could be my great-great uncle or my grandfather. (The
listing was for 1905, I recall.)

My grandfather was born 1884. Where, I do not know, but he spoke of the
Ukraine. Names that are related to my branch are Isaacson, Giebelhaus or
Gifelhaus, Sidur or Seder, Veilermann or Mannweiler. Grandpa used to recite
many of the Yiddish calques and nicknames for the family and laugh, but
alas, those names are lost now to my generation.

My branch came to the US in 1912 (actually boarding ship at Liverpool on the
morning of April 15 when the news came over that the Titanic sank.)

On another post, a poster mentioned that Abraham Schreiner had his discovery
stolen by Ignacy Lukasiewicz. Is there any evidence for this in source
material, and would this also contain genealogical material relevant to
Abraham?

Sorry about the length of this post, but there really hasn't been much
information on this extended family, and it was and is a very interesting
family. The Schreiners were talented people, with quick wits, ability for
science, the arts and languages. They were proud without arrogance,
accomplished without pretensions, and all around decent people. I would
finally like to recover much that has been lost, and to find if any other
of the Galician branch, well, survived.

Thanks

Jonathan Schreiner Marx

Elk Grove, CA


Re: Questions on Currency Of Galicia #galicia

GreGG <gregg@...>
 

I have the following questions if you can answer them or direct me to
a web site that can provide answers I will appreciate it:

1. What would be the US dollar equivalent of a 1936 Polish zloty; a
1939 Polish zloty?
the exchange rate of US$ to Polish zloty was 1 US$ = 5.31 Zloty (both in
1939 value).
Similar exchange rate has been valid throughout the thirties.


2. What would be a time line of currencies used in
Kolomyja/Galicia say >from 18th century through present day; from
Austrian rule through Polish rule to under Ukrainian rule? I also
would like to obtain US dollar equivalents to those currencies
identified.
The Austro-Hungarian Monarchy used two currencies - until 1892, the currency
was 100 Kreuzer = 1 Florin (Gulden); 1-1/2 Florin = 1 Vereinsthaler
and after 1892 monetary reform 100 Heller = 1 Krone / korona.
In the Hungarian and Galician part, the small money has still been called
krajcar.

It is understood that bartering was a form of economic exchange, but
at some point along came coinage and eventually bills for general use
in the marketplace. I also understand that Jews were initially
involved with coinage design and production while serving as arendars
(leaseholders) under Polish magnates (wealthy nobles).
Jews were official bankers of the Polish Royal Court in the medieval times,
thus they might have been involved also in desigining the coins. Some
scientists are guessing, whether the earliest Polish coin does have Hebrew
letters written on it.

With best regards,

Grzegorz Gembala

Gen-Poland Team

******************************************************
* Gen-Poland.Com *
* Skr. poczt. 56, 30-041 Krakow 16, Poland *
* http://www.gen-poland.com; info@gen-poland.com *
* Tel/fax: (+48 12) 637 06 67 *
******************************************************


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Questions on Currency Of Galicia #galicia

GreGG <gregg@...>
 

I have the following questions if you can answer them or direct me to
a web site that can provide answers I will appreciate it:

1. What would be the US dollar equivalent of a 1936 Polish zloty; a
1939 Polish zloty?
the exchange rate of US$ to Polish zloty was 1 US$ = 5.31 Zloty (both in
1939 value).
Similar exchange rate has been valid throughout the thirties.


2. What would be a time line of currencies used in
Kolomyja/Galicia say >from 18th century through present day; from
Austrian rule through Polish rule to under Ukrainian rule? I also
would like to obtain US dollar equivalents to those currencies
identified.
The Austro-Hungarian Monarchy used two currencies - until 1892, the currency
was 100 Kreuzer = 1 Florin (Gulden); 1-1/2 Florin = 1 Vereinsthaler
and after 1892 monetary reform 100 Heller = 1 Krone / korona.
In the Hungarian and Galician part, the small money has still been called
krajcar.

It is understood that bartering was a form of economic exchange, but
at some point along came coinage and eventually bills for general use
in the marketplace. I also understand that Jews were initially
involved with coinage design and production while serving as arendars
(leaseholders) under Polish magnates (wealthy nobles).
Jews were official bankers of the Polish Royal Court in the medieval times,
thus they might have been involved also in desigining the coins. Some
scientists are guessing, whether the earliest Polish coin does have Hebrew
letters written on it.

With best regards,

Grzegorz Gembala

Gen-Poland Team

******************************************************
* Gen-Poland.Com *
* Skr. poczt. 56, 30-041 Krakow 16, Poland *
* http://www.gen-poland.com; info@gen-poland.com *
* Tel/fax: (+48 12) 637 06 67 *
******************************************************


service finding and photographing headstones? #general

arthur wouk <awouk@...>
 

In the case in which given names of ancestors are unknown,
the headstone is a useful searching tool. We are trying to
locate the headstones of several of my wife's and my ancestors
for this purpose. In my wife's case there is, in Massachusetts
where her ancestors are buried, such an organization.
the Jewish Cemetary Association of Massachusetts(JACM),
and we are pursuing that direction (for a fee of
course). they will track down the cemetary, and do
the legwork involved.

In the case of my paternal grandmother, Etta Wouk, nee Cantor,
'born in baronowitz' (possibly the uyezd where she was born,
we have a different birthplace >from the Ellis Island records
which is not completely legible), we want to find her
parents' names, which would be on her headstone.
She died (c. 1937) while living in New York city, so
both new york state and new jersey are possible locations for her
headstone.

Is there any service like that provided by the JACM
for this area?

Searching: Cantor, Wouk, Epstein, Levine, Feldman
--
to email me, delete blackhole. >from my return address


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen service finding and photographing headstones? #general

arthur wouk <awouk@...>
 

In the case in which given names of ancestors are unknown,
the headstone is a useful searching tool. We are trying to
locate the headstones of several of my wife's and my ancestors
for this purpose. In my wife's case there is, in Massachusetts
where her ancestors are buried, such an organization.
the Jewish Cemetary Association of Massachusetts(JACM),
and we are pursuing that direction (for a fee of
course). they will track down the cemetary, and do
the legwork involved.

In the case of my paternal grandmother, Etta Wouk, nee Cantor,
'born in baronowitz' (possibly the uyezd where she was born,
we have a different birthplace >from the Ellis Island records
which is not completely legible), we want to find her
parents' names, which would be on her headstone.
She died (c. 1937) while living in New York city, so
both new york state and new jersey are possible locations for her
headstone.

Is there any service like that provided by the JACM
for this area?

Searching: Cantor, Wouk, Epstein, Levine, Feldman
--
to email me, delete blackhole. >from my return address


Re: Birth records in Texas & Missouri #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Mimi,

According to the TX Dept of Health there were no records
kept in Texas until after 1903.And, according to the
information for Missouri there are only a sparse
number of such records >from 1883-1893 .

You can always check for yourself by using Cyndi's List
www.cyndislist.com scrolling down to the U.S entries,
and clicking on U.S.- Vital Records. There you will find
them all listed in alphabetic order, state by state,
with their relevant information.

Hope this will help!
Rosanne Leeson

Mimi Katz wrote:

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a birth index for
either Texas or Missouri that covers the 1880's? I am looking
for several dates of birth in those states.

Please post replies to the group.

Thank you,
Mimi Katz, Chicago


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Birth records in Texas & Missouri #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Mimi,

According to the TX Dept of Health there were no records
kept in Texas until after 1903.And, according to the
information for Missouri there are only a sparse
number of such records >from 1883-1893 .

You can always check for yourself by using Cyndi's List
www.cyndislist.com scrolling down to the U.S entries,
and clicking on U.S.- Vital Records. There you will find
them all listed in alphabetic order, state by state,
with their relevant information.

Hope this will help!
Rosanne Leeson

Mimi Katz wrote:

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a birth index for
either Texas or Missouri that covers the 1880's? I am looking
for several dates of birth in those states.

Please post replies to the group.

Thank you,
Mimi Katz, Chicago